Re: Ubuntu with AMD64 Support

2005-01-28 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* David Wood 

| Is their amd64 support just based on the pseudo-mainline pure64 sid?

I think that «just» is unjustified.  But it's based on the pure64
port, yes.

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Re: Ubuntu with AMD64 Support

2005-01-28 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Daniel James 

| I don't think the development model is as democratic or open as 
| mainstream Debian either. I mean, if you wanted a particular feature 
| in Ubuntu but a certain well-known millionaire and space tourist was 
| dead against it, do you think it would be implemented in his 
| distribution? : )

We're usually open to ideas, and you should have _really_ crazy ideas
for them to be rejected outright.  (And if so, we are working on tools
which should make it really easy for you to make ubuntu + your crazy
modifications and support that sanely.)

http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/MOTU has some information on maintainers
and such; we _are_ an open community who wants people to join and help
out.

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Re: switch back from gcc-3.4 to pure64

2005-01-28 Thread Will Dyson
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:23:30 +, Andrei Mikhailovsky
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> I've followed the steps to move from gcc4 to pure64 and found out that
> after the migration, some of the packages haven't been updated. Quite a
> lot actually, about 100 or so packages still had .gcc4 in their version
> numbers. Here is the list of them:

> Does anyone know of the quick way of reinstalling them? I've tried doing
> apt-get --reinstall install  , but apt failed with:
> 
> Reinstallation of  is not possible, it cannot be
> downloaded.

Apt does consider it a downgrade, so you must pin the priority for the
package above 1000 using the /etc/apt/preferences file. See the
apt_preferences manpage.

I did this last night and ended up having to use --force-yes on
apt-get. I made a backup and crossed my fingers, but it seemed to
work.

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Re: Dual NIC - device assign problem

2005-01-28 Thread Jörg Ebeling
HiHoo,
thanks to all for your awesome help !
You might check out section 10.9 of this manual to see if it helps:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html
cheers,
-Ted
 

The docs have helped most ;) !
I first tried the "nameif" programm but finalized it now 
(due to more
flexibility) with the "ifrename" package.

Thanks again to all ... and a lot further happy AMD64 
testing/using :)

Cya
 Jörg




Re: VLC depends problem !

2005-01-28 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 10:52:40PM +, Ludovic watteaux wrote:
> vlc: Depends: libflac4 but it is not installable
> E: Broken packages
> 
> Maby vlc must use libflac6 in place of libflac4.

There was a transistion from libflac4 to libflac6 a few weeks
ago.  Unfortuantly, the package failed to build for amd64 so you
still get an old version.

This is actually an RC bug for debian, see bugs.debian.org/289923

There is a patch for it in the BTS, it just hasn't been applied
yet.


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Re: VLC depends problem !

2005-01-28 Thread Filippo Carone
* Ludovic watteaux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ha scritto:
> vlc: Depends: libflac4 but it is not installable
> E: Broken packages
> 
> Maby vlc must use libflac6 in place of libflac4.

 Compile it by hand.

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VLC depends problem !

2005-01-28 Thread Ludovic watteaux
vlc: Depends: libflac4 but it is not installable
E: Broken packages

Maby vlc must use libflac6 in place of libflac4.

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Re: Ubuntu with AMD64 Support

2005-01-28 Thread David Wood
Is their amd64 support just based on the pseudo-mainline pure64 sid?
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Daniel James wrote:
Hi Johannes,
"Hoary Hedgehog" is available as a native AMD64 version.
Has anyone tested this thing so far?
I tried the last version on my Opteron, and it was a very smooth
install. The packages were well chosen, albeit biased towards GNOME.
If you're looking for user-friendly Debian, it's a better bet that
some other derivative versions, and the native amd64 support is a
bonus.
On the other hand, if you're the kind of person who likes to make
their own setup choices then it may not be for you. (Mainstream
Debian packages are available in 'universe' but they aren't
supported).
I don't think the development model is as democratic or open as
mainstream Debian either. I mean, if you wanted a particular feature
in Ubuntu but a certain well-known millionaire and space tourist was
dead against it, do you think it would be implemented in his
distribution? : )
Cheers
Daniel
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Re: Ubuntu with AMD64 Support

2005-01-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 17:55 +, Daniel James wrote:
[snip]
> I don't think the development model is as democratic or open as 
> mainstream Debian either. I mean, if you wanted a particular feature 
> in Ubuntu but a certain well-known millionaire and space tourist was 
> dead against it, do you think it would be implemented in his 
> distribution? : )

It's "his" distro.  Paul Volkerding gets to make Slackware like
he wants, Mark Shuttleworth makes it like he wants, Klaus Knopper
makes it like he wants...

BTW, how many DDs is Ubutnu employing?

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Re: Dual NIC - device assign problem

2005-01-28 Thread Brett Viren
Jörg Ebeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I've a Tyan S4882 with a Broadcom Dual NIC controller on Board.
>
> The NIC module "tg3" loads so far but assigns the ethernet devices
> (eth0/eth1) randomly to the NICs.

FWIW, I have 9 systems, each with a Tyan S2882 and these same dual
NICs and have never experienced this problem.  But, besides being only
dual CPU, these systems differ in that they are running 32bit Debian
and kernel and the tg3 module is compiled into a monolithic kernel.

Every boot and every machine has the socket furthest right if facing
the back of the box comming up as eth1.  Its MAC is one less than the
neighboring eth2.  Eth0 is the 100 Mbps NIC.  I vaguely remember that
with Linux 2.4 eth1 and eth2 came up switched.

Luck,
-Brett.


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Re: Unable to boot Kernel 2.6.10

2005-01-28 Thread David Wood
Thanks for sharing this; it will probably help others. It's interesting 
that these steps solved your problem; I wonder what caused it?

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Leoncini Xavier wrote:
I got to boot.
I erased my modprobe.conf and modprobe.d as well as my modules.conf and
modutils, then removed modconf and modutils and reinstalled them as well as
installed udev.
I have now no problem
Thanks for the different tips
Xavier
Le Mardi 25 Janvier 2005 19:37, Leoncini Xavier a écrit :
I guess it's my fault I was toolazy to copy the error message
and retype it. I was hoping it was a more common problem.
My computer is a laptop with an athlon 3000+
I use  a precompiled debian kernel, and installed debian pure 64
on it last june and been upgrading regularly ever since.
The error message is:
Pid: 2065, comm setserial Tainted: G M 2.6.10-9-amd64-k8
RIP 0010 with garbage
RSP: 0018:...
RAX: etc..
Process setserial (pid: 2065, threadinfo ..)
Stack: f
Call trace
[n_tty_flush_buffer+9}
etc..
last message
Code: Bad RIP value
RIP [
Well I hope it helps
PS: I have been using Debian since late 96, and its the first time I get
such a silly answer
Best
Xavier Leoncini
Le Mardi 25 Janvier 2005 19:17, Alvaro Hernandez a écrit :
Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 07:10:07PM +0100, Egon Willighagen escribió:
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 17:22, Alvaro Hernandez wrote:
Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 05:01:53PM +0100, Leoncini Xavier wrote:
I have a problem while booting 2.6.10

;)) Take it with a grain of salt!
Yes, sure. Ok, I've encountered boot problems too in the past, but don't
really care about them.
It might be more helpful if people would not make fun of Leonici, but
tell him where to find information on how to debug the problems he has
?
 Nobody is making fun of anyone, just joking. Anyway, it is very
difficult to tell someone how to debug a problem he hasn't provided no
information about it.
 There is need, first, to know what is going on, what the error
messages are, software versions, etc.
Do you go to doctor and say "it hurts, doctor, help me"? Or do
you provide information to help doctor start asking questions?
Regards,
	Alvaro



Re: Dual NIC - device assign problem

2005-01-28 Thread Theodore Kisner
You might check out section 10.9 of this manual to see if it helps:

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html

cheers,

-Ted

On Friday 28 January 2005 10:03, Jörg Ebeling wrote:
> HiHo,
>
> I've a Tyan S4882 with a Broadcom Dual NIC controller on Board.
>
> The NIC module "tg3" loads so far but assigns the ethernet devices
> (eth0/eth1) randomly to the NICs.
>
> First I thought it would be a noob problem but after parsing (nearly the
> whole) google I still found no real solution.
>
> My hope in a i.e. "MAC address selection module option" is gone and I
> saw/read that Dual NIC's seem to have that problem in general (ifup/down
> says such stuff in the man page).
>
> The mapping solution which is proposed by ifupdown, doesn't makes me
> happy too, because I need the ethernet device names later on in my
> shorewall. Well it could be made via scripts and shorewall variables,
> but it sounds like the wrong way for me.
>
> Any help/suggestions ?



Re: Ubuntu with AMD64 Support

2005-01-28 Thread Filippo Carone
* Johannes Klug ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ha scritto:
> Hello!
> The Ubuntu Team has recently released [1] a new version of their live-cd 
> distro.
> 
> "Hoary Hedgehog" is available as a native AMD64 version.
> Has anyone tested this thing so far?
> How does it fare?

 I tried it. The live cd has been able to detect everything, and I
ended up using gnome 2.9.4 at 1280x1024 which is the resolution I use
normally.
 In the overall I think it is nice, but from my point of view some
tools. Compared to, let's say, Knoppix it has far less applications.
 It is OK for home and office use.

 cheers.


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Re: Dual NIC - device assign problem

2005-01-28 Thread Jörg Ebeling

I've a Tyan S4882 with a Broadcom Dual NIC controller on Board.
The NIC module "tg3" loads so far but assigns the ethernet devices 
(eth0/eth1) randomly to the NICs.
[...]
Any help/suggestions ?

If it really does it randomly, you could simply repeatedly start and 
stop the driver until it gets them the right way around.  On average, 
it'll take you only two attempts (the worst case is pretty bad 8-)
Yes it really does it randomly and I already thought about such 
script... but it may take 2, 3 or in the case of  bad luck a lot more tries.
Howeven, the same as with the ifupdown suggestion, I feel that this 
would NOT be the right way.
It sounds like Win~1 solution "If it's not working, simply boot (reload) 
again, you may have luck then" ;)

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Re: Dual NIC - device assign problem

2005-01-28 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 28.01.2005 19:08:44, Alex Perry a écrit :
Jörg Ebeling wrote:
I've a Tyan S4882 with a Broadcom Dual NIC controller on Board.
The NIC module "tg3" loads so far but assigns the ethernet devices  
(eth0/eth1) randomly to the NICs.
[...]
Any help/suggestions ?
If it really does it randomly, you could simply repeatedly start and  
stop the driver until it gets them the right way around.  On average,  
it'll take you only two attempts (the worst case is pretty bad 8-)
There is a way to assign a name to the MAC.
Use the nameif command in your /etc/network/interfaces as follow:
As an example, I've an interface I've given the name "lan" and it is  
associated to the "00:00:B4:BB:46:E9" MAC address

iface lan inet static
   pre-up nameif lan 00:00:B4:BB:46:E9
   address 192.168.0.253
   netmask 255.255.255.0
then "ifconfig lan  works
nameif is part of the package net-tools
Regards
Jean-Luc


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Re: Dual NIC - device assign problem

2005-01-28 Thread Alex Perry
Jörg Ebeling wrote:
I've a Tyan S4882 with a Broadcom Dual NIC controller on Board.
The NIC module "tg3" loads so far but assigns the ethernet devices 
(eth0/eth1) randomly to the NICs.
[...]
Any help/suggestions ?
If it really does it randomly, you could simply repeatedly start and 
stop the driver until it gets them the right way around.  On average, 
it'll take you only two attempts (the worst case is pretty bad 8-)


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Dual NIC - device assign problem

2005-01-28 Thread Jörg Ebeling
HiHo,
I've a Tyan S4882 with a Broadcom Dual NIC controller on Board.
The NIC module "tg3" loads so far but assigns the ethernet devices 
(eth0/eth1) randomly to the NICs.

First I thought it would be a noob problem but after parsing (nearly the 
whole) google I still found no real solution.

My hope in a i.e. "MAC address selection module option" is gone and I 
saw/read that Dual NIC's seem to have that problem in general (ifup/down 
says such stuff in the man page).

The mapping solution which is proposed by ifupdown, doesn't makes me 
happy too, because I need the ethernet device names later on in my 
shorewall. Well it could be made via scripts and shorewall variables, 
but it sounds like the wrong way for me.

Any help/suggestions ?
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Re: Ubuntu with AMD64 Support

2005-01-28 Thread Daniel James
Hi Johannes,

> "Hoary Hedgehog" is available as a native AMD64 version.
> Has anyone tested this thing so far?

I tried the last version on my Opteron, and it was a very smooth 
install. The packages were well chosen, albeit biased towards GNOME. 
If you're looking for user-friendly Debian, it's a better bet that 
some other derivative versions, and the native amd64 support is a 
bonus.

On the other hand, if you're the kind of person who likes to make 
their own setup choices then it may not be for you. (Mainstream 
Debian packages are available in 'universe' but they aren't 
supported).

I don't think the development model is as democratic or open as 
mainstream Debian either. I mean, if you wanted a particular feature 
in Ubuntu but a certain well-known millionaire and space tourist was 
dead against it, do you think it would be implemented in his 
distribution? : )
 
Cheers

Daniel


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Re: Ubuntu with AMD64 Support

2005-01-28 Thread Ryan Lovett
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 06:34:37PM +0100, Johannes Klug wrote:
> The Ubuntu Team has recently released [1] a new version of their live-cd 
> distro.
> 
> "Hoary Hedgehog" is available as a native AMD64 version.
> Has anyone tested this thing so far?
> How does it fare?

Works great on a Sun V20z box. It'll be a very useful rescue/diagnostic CD
at least. It appears to use the debian installer's hardware detection and
rather than going into an installer, boots into a GNOME desktop.

Ryan


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Re: Ubuntu with AMD64 Support

2005-01-28 Thread Mike Reinehr
Downloading as we speak, but at the rate it's coming, it'll be tomorrow before 
I get to test it.

cmr

On Friday 28 January 2005 11:34 am, Johannes Klug wrote:
> Hello!
> The Ubuntu Team has recently released [1] a new version of their live-cd
> distro.
>
> "Hoary Hedgehog" is available as a native AMD64 version.
> Has anyone tested this thing so far?
> How does it fare?
>
> Best regards,
> Johannes Klug
>
> [1]
> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-January/11.html

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Re: Ubuntu with AMD64 Support

2005-01-28 Thread Hugo Mills
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 06:34:37PM +0100, Johannes Klug wrote:
> "Hoary Hedgehog" is available as a native AMD64 version.
> Has anyone tested this thing so far?
> How does it fare?

   I'm running it here (as an installed version, not the live CD), and
have been for a couple of weeks. It's very nice. Fewer of the sharp
edges I found with Warty (not that there were many to start with).

   Hugo.

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Re: How to interprete machine check exception

2005-01-28 Thread Ralf Schmitt
Just in case someone else searches the mailing lists...
Ralf Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
One of out our Opteron based machines here at work keeps crashing (with 
kernel 2.6.8/2.6.10). Last thing it prints on the console is (hand 
transcript):

CPU0: Machine Check Exception   4 Bank 0: b60ea833
TSC 6e5cd030ae71
ADDR 258f8640
I've downloaded parsemce.c 0.0.9 from http://codemonkey.org.uk/cruft/. 
But I'm not sure about the correct way to call it (or if it even works 
for amd64).
still don't know. but one can use the recently released mcelog 0.3:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat mce.txt
CPU 0: Machine Check Exception:4 Bank 0: b60ea833
TSC 3151881f80cc
Kernel panic - not syncing: Machine check
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/sbin/mcelog --k8 --ascii  
- Ralf
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Ubuntu with AMD64 Support

2005-01-28 Thread Johannes Klug
Hello!
The Ubuntu Team has recently released [1] a new version of their live-cd 
distro.

"Hoary Hedgehog" is available as a native AMD64 version.
Has anyone tested this thing so far?
How does it fare?
Best regards,
Johannes Klug
[1] 
http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-January/11.html

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Re: switch back from gcc-3.4 to pure64

2005-01-28 Thread Theodore Kisner
Hmmm, this happened to me as well, but only with a couple packages (like cpp).  
I just installed them by hand.  I'm not an expert, but does the installation 
of the equivalent pure64 packages constitute a "downgrade" for these 
packages, or are the versions identical?

Perhaps what is happening is that the identical version is not available in 
pure64, and apt refuses to downgrade.  Again, I am not an expert...

-Ted


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Re: Unable to boot Kernel 2.6.10

2005-01-28 Thread Leoncini Xavier
I got to boot.
I erased my modprobe.conf and modprobe.d as well as my modules.conf and 
modutils, then removed modconf and modutils and reinstalled them as well as 
installed udev.
I have now no problem
Thanks for the different tips
Xavier
Le Mardi 25 Janvier 2005 19:37, Leoncini Xavier a écrit :
> I guess it's my fault I was toolazy to copy the error message
> and retype it. I was hoping it was a more common problem.
> My computer is a laptop with an athlon 3000+
> I use  a precompiled debian kernel, and installed debian pure 64
> on it last june and been upgrading regularly ever since.
>
> The error message is:
> Pid: 2065, comm setserial Tainted: G M 2.6.10-9-amd64-k8
> RIP 0010 with garbage
> RSP: 0018:...
> RAX: etc..
> Process setserial (pid: 2065, threadinfo ..)
> Stack: f
> Call trace
> [n_tty_flush_buffer+9}
> etc..
> last message
> Code: Bad RIP value
> RIP [ CR2: ...
> /etc/rcS.d/S46setserial: line 152: 2065 killed ¤{SETSERIAL} -z $device
> $args Then if I type ctrl C I lose allability to do anything
> with another Bad RIP value and some kthread thread return worker_thread
> message in the CallTrace message
> I use also the cpudyn daemon when I can boot.
>
> Well I hope it helps
>
> PS: I have been using Debian since late 96, and its the first time I get
> such a silly answer
> Best
> Xavier Leoncini
>
> Le Mardi 25 Janvier 2005 19:17, Alvaro Hernandez a écrit :
> > Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 07:10:07PM +0100, Egon Willighagen escribió:
> > >On Tuesday 25 January 2005 17:22, Alvaro Hernandez wrote:
> > >> Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 05:01:53PM +0100, Leoncini Xavier wrote:
> > >> >I have a problem while booting 2.6.10
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> ;)) Take it with a grain of salt!
> > >
> > >Yes, sure. Ok, I've encountered boot problems too in the past, but don't
> > >really care about them.
> > >
> > >It might be more helpful if people would not make fun of Leonici, but
> > > tell him where to find information on how to debug the problems he has
> > > ?
> >
> >  Nobody is making fun of anyone, just joking. Anyway, it is very
> > difficult to tell someone how to debug a problem he hasn't provided no
> > information about it.
> >
> >  There is need, first, to know what is going on, what the error
> > messages are, software versions, etc.
> >
> > Do you go to doctor and say "it hurts, doctor, help me"? Or do
> > you provide information to help doctor start asking questions?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Alvaro



Re: switch back from gcc-3.4 to pure64

2005-01-28 Thread Andrei Mikhailovsky
Nope, did and update beforehand. If the update haven't been done, then
most likely that the other packages haven't been updated as well.

Any other ideas?

Do you know how can I force download and reinstallation of a package?
the mans for dpkg/apt-get show the --reinstall option, but it doesn't
work. For some reason, the available version of some packages still
remain from the gcc4 branch, even after I did apt-get update for a few
days in a row.


On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 16:45 +0100, Andreas Knüpfer wrote:
> my first guess is a missing 'apt-get update' before the reinstall attempt.
> i checked some of the packages you mentioned and they are fine on my system.
> 
> sorry if this idea was too simple
> 
> best regards, knue
> 
> 
> On Friday 28 January 2005 16:23, Andrei Mikhailovsky wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 23:55 +, L W wrote:
> > > I've find the good way :
> > >
> > > dpkg --get-selections | grep -w install | awk '{print $1}' | xargs -n 10
> > > -- apt-get -y --reinstall install
> >
> > I've followed the steps to move from gcc4 to pure64 and found out that
> > after the migration, some of the packages haven't been updated. Quite a
> > lot actually, about 100 or so packages still had .gcc4 in their version
> > numbers. Here is the list of them:
> >
> > ii  xprt-common  0.1.0.alpha1-6.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  xprt-xprintorg   0.1.0.alpha1-6.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  xpdf-utils   3.00-12.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  xpdf-common  3.00-12.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  xmms 1.2.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  util-linux   2.12p-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  sasl2-bin2.1.19-1.5.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  python2.3-gtk2   2.4.1-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  python2.3-glade2 2.4.1-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  python-gtk2  2.4.1-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  php4-mysql   4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  php4-cli 4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  php4-common  4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  php4-gd  4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  php4-imap4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  php4-ldap4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  openssl  0.9.7e-3.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  php44.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  ooqstart-gnome   0.8.3-8.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  mutt 1.5.6-20040907+2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  mtr-tiny 0.67-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  mount2.12p-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  modutils 2.4.26-1.2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libxine1 1.0-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libstdc++6-dev   3.4.3-7.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libstdc++6   4.0-0pre1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libssl0.9.7  0.9.7e-3.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libssl-dev   0.9.7e-3.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libsigc++-1.2-5c102  1.2.5-4.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libsasl2-modules 2.1.19-1.5.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libsasl2 2.1.19-1.5.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libroken16-kerberos4kth  1.2.2-11.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libpt-plugins-v4l1.6.6.4-5.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libpt-plugins-alsa   1.6.6.4-5.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libpt-1.6.3  1.6.6.4-5.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libopenh323-1.13.2   1.13.5.4-4.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libkrb53 1.3.6-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libkrb-1-kerberos4kth1.2.2-11.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libguile-ltdl-1  1.6.7-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgtkmm-2.4-1   2.4.8-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgtkhtml3.2-11 3.2.4-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgtkhtml3.2-dev3.2.4-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgnorba27  1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgnorbagtk01.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgnomeui32 1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgnomesupport0 1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgnome32   1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgnome-pilot2  2.0.12-1.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgnome-pilot2-dev  2.0.12-1.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgmp3  4.1.4-5.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgda2-11.0.4-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgda2-common   1.0.4-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgcrypt7-doc   1.1.90-9.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgcrypt7   1.1.90-9.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgcrypt11-dev  1.2.0-11.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgcrypt1   1.1.12-8.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgcrypt11  1.2.0-11.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libgcc1  4.0-0pre1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libfltk1.1c102   1.1.6-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libesd0-dev  0.2.35-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libesd-alsa0 0.2.35-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libdb3-util  3.2.9-20.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libasound2   1.0.8-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libart2  1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> > ii  libapache2-mod-php4  4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc

Re: switch back from gcc-3.4 to pure64

2005-01-28 Thread Andreas Knüpfer
my first guess is a missing 'apt-get update' before the reinstall attempt.
i checked some of the packages you mentioned and they are fine on my system.

sorry if this idea was too simple

best regards, knue


On Friday 28 January 2005 16:23, Andrei Mikhailovsky wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 23:55 +, L W wrote:
> > I've find the good way :
> >
> > dpkg --get-selections | grep -w install | awk '{print $1}' | xargs -n 10
> > -- apt-get -y --reinstall install
>
> I've followed the steps to move from gcc4 to pure64 and found out that
> after the migration, some of the packages haven't been updated. Quite a
> lot actually, about 100 or so packages still had .gcc4 in their version
> numbers. Here is the list of them:
>
> ii  xprt-common  0.1.0.alpha1-6.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  xprt-xprintorg   0.1.0.alpha1-6.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  xpdf-utils   3.00-12.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  xpdf-common  3.00-12.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  xmms 1.2.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  util-linux   2.12p-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  sasl2-bin2.1.19-1.5.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  python2.3-gtk2   2.4.1-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  python2.3-glade2 2.4.1-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  python-gtk2  2.4.1-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  php4-mysql   4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  php4-cli 4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  php4-common  4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  php4-gd  4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  php4-imap4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  php4-ldap4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  openssl  0.9.7e-3.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  php44.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  ooqstart-gnome   0.8.3-8.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  mutt 1.5.6-20040907+2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  mtr-tiny 0.67-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  mount2.12p-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  modutils 2.4.26-1.2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libxine1 1.0-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libstdc++6-dev   3.4.3-7.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libstdc++6   4.0-0pre1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libssl0.9.7  0.9.7e-3.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libssl-dev   0.9.7e-3.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libsigc++-1.2-5c102  1.2.5-4.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libsasl2-modules 2.1.19-1.5.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libsasl2 2.1.19-1.5.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libroken16-kerberos4kth  1.2.2-11.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libpt-plugins-v4l1.6.6.4-5.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libpt-plugins-alsa   1.6.6.4-5.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libpt-1.6.3  1.6.6.4-5.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libopenh323-1.13.2   1.13.5.4-4.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libkrb53 1.3.6-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libkrb-1-kerberos4kth1.2.2-11.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libguile-ltdl-1  1.6.7-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgtkmm-2.4-1   2.4.8-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgtkhtml3.2-11 3.2.4-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgtkhtml3.2-dev3.2.4-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgnorba27  1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgnorbagtk01.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgnomeui32 1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgnomesupport0 1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgnome32   1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgnome-pilot2  2.0.12-1.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgnome-pilot2-dev  2.0.12-1.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgmp3  4.1.4-5.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgda2-11.0.4-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgda2-common   1.0.4-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgcrypt7-doc   1.1.90-9.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgcrypt7   1.1.90-9.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgcrypt11-dev  1.2.0-11.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgcrypt1   1.1.12-8.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgcrypt11  1.2.0-11.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libgcc1  4.0-0pre1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libfltk1.1c102   1.1.6-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libesd0-dev  0.2.35-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libesd-alsa0 0.2.35-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libdb3-util  3.2.9-20.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libasound2   1.0.8-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libart2  1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  libapache2-mod-php4  4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  kdelibs4 3.3.2-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  kdelibs-bin  3.3.2-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  kdelibs-data 3.3.2-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  inkscape 0.40-2.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  guile-1.6-libs   1.6.7-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  gtkhtml3.2   3.2.4-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  gnome-pilot  2.0.12-1.1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  gnome-libs-data  1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  gnome-bin1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  gnome-applets2.8.2-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  gnome-applets-data   2.8.2-1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  gcc-4.0-base 4.0-0pre1.0.0.1.gcc4
> ii  gcc-3.4   

Bug#248796: status of this bug?

2005-01-28 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

what is the state of the emacs21 amd64 build patch? 

may I politely ask why it is still not included in the source package?

we have at least 10 packages FTBFS because of this currently, among them
important packages like auctex and python2.3.

The bug is open since 260 days now.

Kind regards
Frederik Schueler

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Re: switch back from gcc-3.4 to pure64

2005-01-28 Thread Andrei Mikhailovsky
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 23:55 +, L W wrote:
> I've find the good way :
> 
> dpkg --get-selections | grep -w install | awk '{print $1}' | xargs -n 10 
> -- apt-get -y --reinstall install
> 

I've followed the steps to move from gcc4 to pure64 and found out that
after the migration, some of the packages haven't been updated. Quite a
lot actually, about 100 or so packages still had .gcc4 in their version
numbers. Here is the list of them:

ii  xprt-common  0.1.0.alpha1-6.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  xprt-xprintorg   0.1.0.alpha1-6.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  xpdf-utils   3.00-12.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  xpdf-common  3.00-12.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  xmms 1.2.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  util-linux   2.12p-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  sasl2-bin2.1.19-1.5.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  python2.3-gtk2   2.4.1-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  python2.3-glade2 2.4.1-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  python-gtk2  2.4.1-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  php4-mysql   4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  php4-cli 4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  php4-common  4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  php4-gd  4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  php4-imap4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  php4-ldap4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  openssl  0.9.7e-3.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  php44.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  ooqstart-gnome   0.8.3-8.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  mutt 1.5.6-20040907+2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  mtr-tiny 0.67-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  mount2.12p-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  modutils 2.4.26-1.2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libxine1 1.0-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libstdc++6-dev   3.4.3-7.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libstdc++6   4.0-0pre1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libssl0.9.7  0.9.7e-3.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libssl-dev   0.9.7e-3.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libsigc++-1.2-5c102  1.2.5-4.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libsasl2-modules 2.1.19-1.5.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libsasl2 2.1.19-1.5.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libroken16-kerberos4kth  1.2.2-11.1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libpt-plugins-v4l1.6.6.4-5.1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libpt-plugins-alsa   1.6.6.4-5.1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libpt-1.6.3  1.6.6.4-5.1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libopenh323-1.13.2   1.13.5.4-4.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libkrb53 1.3.6-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libkrb-1-kerberos4kth1.2.2-11.1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libguile-ltdl-1  1.6.7-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgtkmm-2.4-1   2.4.8-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgtkhtml3.2-11 3.2.4-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgtkhtml3.2-dev3.2.4-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgnorba27  1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgnorbagtk01.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgnomeui32 1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgnomesupport0 1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgnome32   1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgnome-pilot2  2.0.12-1.1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgnome-pilot2-dev  2.0.12-1.1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgmp3  4.1.4-5.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgda2-11.0.4-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgda2-common   1.0.4-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgcrypt7-doc   1.1.90-9.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgcrypt7   1.1.90-9.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgcrypt11-dev  1.2.0-11.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgcrypt1   1.1.12-8.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgcrypt11  1.2.0-11.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libgcc1  4.0-0pre1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libfltk1.1c102   1.1.6-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libesd0-dev  0.2.35-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libesd-alsa0 0.2.35-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libdb3-util  3.2.9-20.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libasound2   1.0.8-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libart2  1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  libapache2-mod-php4  4.3.10-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  kdelibs4 3.3.2-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  kdelibs-bin  3.3.2-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  kdelibs-data 3.3.2-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  inkscape 0.40-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  guile-1.6-libs   1.6.7-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  gtkhtml3.2   3.2.4-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  gnome-pilot  2.0.12-1.1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  gnome-libs-data  1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  gnome-bin1.4.2-19.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  gnome-applets2.8.2-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  gnome-applets-data   2.8.2-1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  gcc-4.0-base 4.0-0pre1.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  gcc-3.4  3.4.3-7.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  gcc-3.4-base 3.4.3-7.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  g++-3.4  3.4.3-7.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  esound   0.2.35-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  esound-clients   0.2.35-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  esound-common0.2.35-2.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  ed   0.2-20.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  dselect  1.10.26.0.0.1.gcc4
ii  dpkg-dev 1.10.26.0.0

Re: AMD64 patch for flavio's fglrx debs

2005-01-28 Thread Ludovic watteaux
Thanks, i forgot to put the symlink  /usr/X11R6/lib64 to /usr/X11R6/lib.
That's verry Nice !

sh-3.00$ glxgears
6745 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1349.000 FPS
Stable.


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Re: AMD64 patch for flavio's fglrx debs

2005-01-28 Thread Davide Puricelli
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 11:58:17AM +, Ludovic watteaux wrote:
> Ok your patch is very nice.
> That work for me.
>  VIAK8
>  Radeon Mobility 9600
>  Kernel 2.6.10
>  Debian AMD64/GCC3.4
> 
> But performance is not realy there !
> before glxgear = 150 fps
> Afterglxgear = 472 fps

[snip]

Do an "export LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/" before
executing startx, this should resolve your issues.

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Re: AMD64 patch for flavio's fglrx debs

2005-01-28 Thread Filippo Carone
* Ludovic watteaux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ha scritto:
> 
> h-3.00$ fglrxinfo
> display: :0.0  screen: 0
> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
> OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 4.0.4
> 
> I don't have the performance of  Johannes Pleikies :
> > After this the estimated fps in glxgears raised from 150 to 1750.
> Is it  normal ? 

 Maybe fglrx libGL.so.1.2 is not in place. The vendor string should be
"ATI  ..".

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Re: AMD64 patch for flavio's fglrx debs

2005-01-28 Thread Ludovic watteaux
Ok your patch is very nice.
That work for me.
 VIAK8
 Radeon Mobility 9600
 Kernel 2.6.10
 Debian AMD64/GCC3.4

But performance is not realy there !
before glxgear = 150 fps
Afterglxgear = 472 fps

Error with fgl_glxgears !

sh-3.00$ fgl_glxgears
X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request:  131 (GLX)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)
  Serial number of failed request:  33
  Current serial number in output stream:  33

h-3.00$ fglrxinfo
display: :0.0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 4.0.4

From dmesg :
fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, 
GERMANY' taints kernel.
[fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 428 MBytes.
[fglrx] module loaded - fglrx 8.8.25 [Jan 14 2005] on minor 0
[fglrx] AGP detected, AgpState   = 0x1f000a1b (hardware caps of chipset)
agpgart: Found an AGP 3.5 compliant device at :00:00.0.
agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at :00:00.0 into 8x mode
agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at :01:00.0 into 8x mode
[fglrx] AGP enabled,  AgpCommand = 0x1f000312 (selected caps)
[fglrx] free  AGP = 256126976
[fglrx] max   AGP = 256126976
[fglrx] free  LFB = 55570432
[fglrx] max   LFB = 55570432
[fglrx] free  Inv = 0
[fglrx] max   Inv = 0
[fglrx] total Inv = 0
[fglrx] total TIM = 0
[fglrx] total FB  = 0
[fglrx] total AGP = 65536

I don't have the performance of  Johannes Pleikies :
> After this the estimated fps in glxgears raised from 150 to 1750.
Is it  normal ? 

Greetings
Ludovic




Audio tests on pure64

2005-01-28 Thread Daniel James
Hello all,

I have attempted to build a DeMuDi style kernel on pure64 using the 
Debian source package of 2.6.10 as a base. It patched OK, but during 
'make' I ran into this xtime_lock bug which only seems to affect 
x86_64 systems:

http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/12/10/108

However, the latency performance of unpatched 2.6.10 doesn't seem to 
be that bad, from other reports. I was even able to run jackd on the 
unpatched Debian 2.6.8 without xrun hell (I had to run as root in 
order to set the realtime option though). It seems that 2.6.11 has a 
number of latency improvements to come, too:

http://seclists.org/lists/linux-kernel/2005/Jan/0618.html

On the applications side, I have ardour 0.9beta24 running without 
problems so far, Hydrogen and qjackctl. Rosegarden4 and Audacity 
installed OK, but I haven't had a chance to test them yet. Alsa 
worked fine out of the box after running alsaconf. I can't seem to 
find the envy24control mixer in the apt archive - I may need to 
create a package for that.

However, Jamin segfaults after a brief flash of the GUI. Norval - 
could you do an apt-get install jamin on your Pure64 box, start 
jackd, run jamin and see if the same behaviour happens for you? If 
so, I'll bring it to the attention of the Jamin developers. I'll 
probably have to try building it from source with debugging enabled.
 
(By the way, the pure64 team appear to have done a really good job 
with this distribution. For something so bleeding edge, the 
infrastructure seems really solid. Thanks!)

Daniel


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Re: nforce4 + gt6600 (pce) X redraw problems

2005-01-28 Thread Elmar Pruesse
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=292252
There is a patch at the above link, get it and put in the xfree debian source 
tree under the directory debian/patches. Recompile and reinstall 
xserver-common and xserver-xfree86.

Thanks a lot! I had seen the patch earlier, but its description didn't 
sound to me like it would solve my problem. But it did.

I'm uploading my binaries to "http://intux.org/debian"; in case anyone 
wants to save him/herself the hassle of recompiling xfree86.

Elmar
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