Re: powernowd / stock kernels

2005-03-04 Thread Jens Vogel
Hi,
I have the K8T Neo-FIS2R Mainboard, also latest BIOS (v2.0). In the 
beginning (the board came with v1.4) nothing which is related to power 
and ACPI did work.
Since BIOS v1.9 ACPI and Cool'n'Quiet using powernowd finally works 
perfectly. No problems throttling up or down whatsoever; while writing 
this my CPU (AMD64 3000+) is constantly around 26°C.
Are you sure you have no thermal problems or other hardware related issues?

Greets,
Jens
Michael Wagener wrote:
Hi,
would you mind posting your type of mainboard?
I have CnQ running but sometimes the machine locks up hard when the
CPU tries to throttle up. Throttling down and running full-speed w/o
powernowd works fine though :-|
I'm trying to hunt this down and assuming a Board/BIOS/CMOS problem.
I am using a AMD64 3500+ on a MSI K8T Neo2 board (last BIOS).
Thank you,
Mike
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Re: AMD64 small form factor

2005-03-04 Thread Alex Perry
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 19:25 -0800, Alex Perry wrote:
(2)  Does anybody know of an Athlon64 motherboard that is mini-ITX, or
preferably the smaller 5 inch form factor, for embedded applications ?

Embedded?  That's gonna be really hot.
As far as I know, the Athlon64 series score pretty well in terms of the 
MFLOPS per Watt that they deliver.  I'm not really worried about that.
Probably a bigger problem is the associated wearable battery pack.

The Athlon M(obile), which, AFAICT, is pin compatible with the 
AthlonXP, generates a *lot* less heat than the others, and would
be very good in an embedded system.
Experimentally, one runtime thread uses 70% of a 3000+ processor.
I've been using the Athlon64-Mobile so far and been quite happy;
is there that much of a power saving, going to a comparable AXPM?
Out of curiosity, and if you can tell us, why do you need all that
A64 juice in a SFF?
Due to restrictions imposed by the customer, I can only disclose
the purpose under NDA or to people generating a response to an RFQ.
Sorry ...
PS. Off topic to the list:  A year ago, I came across a P4 wearable 
computer unit that was in a 3 1/2 inch hard drive form factor case. 
I've lost the reference ... but if someone happens to know of it ?


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Re: Anyone tried the ASUS A8V-E Deluxe?

2005-03-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Kyuu Eturautti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Alois Zoitl wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> i got this htin g yesterday and I'm not to glad about it because I
>> can not get the network running.
>> As far as I found out it uses also the sk98lin driver.
>> But the standard driver that comes along with the debian amd 64 cd
>> fails the installation.

Why? What is the error?

MfG
Goswin


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Re: AMD64 small form factor

2005-03-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 19:25 -0800, Alex Perry wrote:
> (1)  Does anybody have experience of Debian/Sid/AMD64 _not_ working on 
> the Shuttle SN85 or SN95 motherboards - that are in their XPC units ?
> 
> (2)  Does anybody know of an Athlon64 motherboard that is mini-ITX, or 
> preferably the smaller 5 inch form factor, for embedded applications ?

Embedded?  That's gonna be really hot.

The Athlon M(obile), which, AFAICT, is pin compatible with the 
AthlonXP, generates a *lot* less heat than the others, and would
be very good in an embedded system.

Out of curiosity, and if you can tell us, why do you need all that
A64 juice in a SFF?

> (3)  If there is something out there, maybe not yet a product but for 
> which at least three prototypes are expected to be available by August, 
> I'd be interested in receiving an unsolicited NDA document in the mail.

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Re: Anyone tried the ASUS A8V-E Deluxe?

2005-03-04 Thread Kyuu Eturautti
Alois Zoitl wrote:
Hi,
i got this htin g yesterday and I'm not to glad about it because I can 
not get the network running.
As far as I found out it uses also the sk98lin driver.
But the standard driver that comes along with the debian amd 64 cd 
fails the installation.
After using an additional card I was able to upgrade to the gcc-3.4 
tree. And after installing
the 2.6.9-9 kernel I could load the sk98lin module with modconf. But I 
don't think its working.
I've hit the same problem on the same board. Running a freshly installed 
pure64 sarge.

- the driver on the DFS cd states No adapter found
- the driver in 2.6.11 from ftp.kernel.org doesn't do anything - 
modprobe sk98lin doesn't report anything on the console or dmesg. 
modules are working, as I can load the 3c59x module without problems for 
a temporary alternate nic
- the latest driver from syskonnect.com fails during "Compile the 
kernel" when running install.sh, either expert or user mode. The 
install.log contains these errors:
-- In function 'sk98lin_resume';
-- error: too many arguments to funcion 'pci_restore_state'
-- a similar error for sk98lin_resume and function pci_save_state

Does a self compiled kernel perhaps need some special options turned on 
for sk98lin to work? The onboard LAN is enabled and I can see the device 
in lspci.

Kyuu 'Vekotin' Eturautti
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AMD64 small form factor

2005-03-04 Thread Alex Perry
(1)  Does anybody have experience of Debian/Sid/AMD64 _not_ working on 
the Shuttle SN85 or SN95 motherboards - that are in their XPC units ?

(2)  Does anybody know of an Athlon64 motherboard that is mini-ITX, or 
preferably the smaller 5 inch form factor, for embedded applications ?

(3)  If there is something out there, maybe not yet a product but for 
which at least three prototypes are expected to be available by August, 
I'd be interested in receiving an unsolicited NDA document in the mail.

Thanks,
Alex.
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Re: powernowd / stock kernels

2005-03-04 Thread Javier Kohen
Well, actually the package's description says something different and I 
quote:
"The name is somewhat misleading, as any CPUfreq capable processor will 
work, not just those from AMD.  However, it works better on CPUs that 
support more than two speed steps, like those with AMD's PowerNow! or 
Intel's Pentium M series."

Thanks,
Zaq Rizer wrote:
Javier,
I wouldn't say I "prefer" powernowd, per se, but I know that powernowd 
is made for AMD, whereas cpudynd is more generic (afaik).  That being 
said, I use cpudynd in my thinkpad (X40) and it works very well.
YMMV,
Zaq

Javier Kohen wrote:
Hi guys,
is there any reason why you prefer powernowd to cpudyn? I was 
wondering because I'm using the later on my notebook. I barely use it 
on batteries, but I like the noise reduction that comes with the 
reduced speed.

Zachary Rizer wrote:
Aha! You're right.
Works like a charm here as well.
Thank you Thomas!
--- "T.J. Zeeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 11:06 -0800, Zachary Rizer
wrote:
Please disregard previous email -- I just realized
powernowd is only on XP-M processors, and that

what
I'm looking for is "Cool 'n Quiet".
My mistake!

Actually, no mistake at all. I have an AMD64 and run
powernowd to have
cpu-scaling (as provided by the CnQ-feature in the
cpu).
I got it to run on a Debian kernel-image after I put
powernowd-k8 and
cpufreq-userspace in /etc/modules. It was apparently
necessary to have
these loaded forcedly to get the powernowd daemon to
run.
regards,
Thomas






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One unsuccessfull and two successfull sarge installs

2005-03-04 Thread Kyuu Eturautti
With the arrival of some more hardware, I've tested debian-pure64 sarge 
on the first two boards. Because these are for server use, audio is bios 
disabled and X won't be installed. Both are Micro ATX motherboards with 
on board VGA, accompanied by an Athlon64 2800+ CPU and 512MB Kingston 
DDR400.

Asus K8S-MX, SiS 760GX/965L chipset, SiS 191 10/100 LAN
Problem free installation with DFS using an external RTL network card, 
internal LAN not functional with latest SiS drivers from sis.com.tw or 
linux 2.6.11. It seems both of these drivers don't recognize the 191 
model LAN chip, and it seems the latest SiS drivers are still only 
available for Windows. I'm putting this system on the shelf for a few 
weeks, hoping that they'll release a driver then. As it's installed in a 
Flex ATX case with half height PCI slots, using a common PCI network 
card isn't an option.

MSI K8MM-ILSR, Via K8M800/VT8237 chipset, Via VT8237 10/100 LAN
Problem free installation with DFS using via-rhine module for LAN. This 
must be an older model onboard NIC, as all other boards with on-board 
Via LAN have used the newer via-velocity driver. I repeated the 
installation on another identical system, just chose to use cdebootstrap 
instead of debootstrap for the chroot. No problems there either.

Fortunately, I have a pile of MSI boards and only one problematic Asus 
model. However, the design and ease of physical installation/maintenance 
are far better on the Asus board. If the LAN driver issue is fixed, I'll 
probably be purchasing more Asus boards of this model in the future. I'm 
betting on this, as SiS generally seems to support Linux pretty well.

Application wise, I've tested some game server software (i386 binaries) 
on pure64 Sarge. ia32-libs doesn't help much, but the HOWTO documention 
on installing an ia32 chroot works perfectly, all I did was replace sid 
with sarge. I can confirm the functionality of Call of Duty and Call of 
Duty: United Offensive linux server binaries. In the "seems to work but 
unverified" category I can mention Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, Medal 
of Honor: Spearhead and Half-Life 2. This means the linux servers run 
without problems, but I haven't been able to test functionality with 
client software.

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Re: powernowd / stock kernels

2005-03-04 Thread Zaq Rizer
Javier,
I wouldn't say I "prefer" powernowd, per se, but I know that powernowd 
is made for AMD, whereas cpudynd is more generic (afaik).  That being 
said, I use cpudynd in my thinkpad (X40) and it works very well. 

YMMV,
Zaq
Javier Kohen wrote:
Hi guys,
is there any reason why you prefer powernowd to cpudyn? I was 
wondering because I'm using the later on my notebook. I barely use it 
on batteries, but I like the noise reduction that comes with the 
reduced speed.

Zachary Rizer wrote:
Aha! You're right.
Works like a charm here as well.
Thank you Thomas!
--- "T.J. Zeeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 11:06 -0800, Zachary Rizer
wrote:
Please disregard previous email -- I just realized
powernowd is only on XP-M processors, and that

what
I'm looking for is "Cool 'n Quiet".
My mistake!

Actually, no mistake at all. I have an AMD64 and run
powernowd to have
cpu-scaling (as provided by the CnQ-feature in the
cpu).
I got it to run on a Debian kernel-image after I put
powernowd-k8 and
cpufreq-userspace in /etc/modules. It was apparently
necessary to have
these loaded forcedly to get the powernowd daemon to
run.
regards,
Thomas





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Re: powernowd / stock kernels

2005-03-04 Thread Javier Kohen
Hi guys,
is there any reason why you prefer powernowd to cpudyn? I was wondering 
because I'm using the later on my notebook. I barely use it on 
batteries, but I like the noise reduction that comes with the reduced speed.

Zachary Rizer wrote:
Aha! You're right.
Works like a charm here as well. 

Thank you Thomas!
--- "T.J. Zeeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 11:06 -0800, Zachary Rizer
wrote:
Please disregard previous email -- I just realized
powernowd is only on XP-M processors, and that
what
I'm looking for is "Cool 'n Quiet". 

My mistake!
Actually, no mistake at all. I have an AMD64 and run
powernowd to have
cpu-scaling (as provided by the CnQ-feature in the
cpu).
I got it to run on a Debian kernel-image after I put
powernowd-k8 and
cpufreq-userspace in /etc/modules. It was apparently
necessary to have
these loaded forcedly to get the powernowd daemon to
run.
regards,
Thomas




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Re: can't connect to internet anymore

2005-03-04 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
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> I think there's a modprobe config file thing you can use to give drivers
> specific eth? names but maybe that's only on Redhat. (I don't know).

ifrename is very helpful in giving interfaces stable names; hotplug
uses it automatically when loading network drivers, and you can
specify

pre-up ifrename

in the /etc/network/interfaces stanzas for any interfaces whose
drivers are compiled into your kernel (or alternatively add an early
init script that runs ifrename, but that's more effort).

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Re: powernowd / stock kernels

2005-03-04 Thread Zachary Rizer
Mike,

Sure thing.  It's a Soltek SL-K8AN2E-GR.

Detailed info is here:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-180-061&depa=0

Regards,
Zaq

--- Michael Wagener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> would you mind posting your type of mainboard?
> I have CnQ running but sometimes the machine locks
> up hard when the
> CPU tries to throttle up. Throttling down and
> running full-speed w/o
> powernowd works fine though :-|
> 
> I'm trying to hunt this down and assuming a
> Board/BIOS/CMOS problem.
> 
> I am using a AMD64 3500+ on a MSI K8T Neo2 board
> (last BIOS).
> 
> Thank you,
> Mike
> 
> >Aha! You're right.
> >
> >Works like a charm here as well. 
> >
> >Thank you Thomas!
> >
> >
> >--- "T.J. Zeeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 11:06 -0800, Zachary Rizer
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Please disregard previous email -- I just
> realized
> >>>powernowd is only on XP-M processors, and that
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>what
> >>
> >>
> >>>I'm looking for is "Cool 'n Quiet". 
> >>>
> >>>My mistake!
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>Actually, no mistake at all. I have an AMD64 and
> run
> >>powernowd to have
> >>cpu-scaling (as provided by the CnQ-feature in the
> >>cpu).
> >>
> >>I got it to run on a Debian kernel-image after I
> put
> >>powernowd-k8 and
> >>cpufreq-userspace in /etc/modules. It was
> apparently
> >>necessary to have
> >>these loaded forcedly to get the powernowd daemon
> to
> >>run.
> >>
> >>regards,
> >>Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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Re: powernowd / stock kernels

2005-03-04 Thread Michael Wagener
Hi,
would you mind posting your type of mainboard?
I have CnQ running but sometimes the machine locks up hard when the
CPU tries to throttle up. Throttling down and running full-speed w/o
powernowd works fine though :-|
I'm trying to hunt this down and assuming a Board/BIOS/CMOS problem.
I am using a AMD64 3500+ on a MSI K8T Neo2 board (last BIOS).
Thank you,
Mike
Aha! You're right.
Works like a charm here as well. 

Thank you Thomas!
--- "T.J. Zeeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Hi,
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 11:06 -0800, Zachary Rizer
wrote:
   

Please disregard previous email -- I just realized
powernowd is only on XP-M processors, and that
 

what
   

I'm looking for is "Cool 'n Quiet". 

My mistake!
 

Actually, no mistake at all. I have an AMD64 and run
powernowd to have
cpu-scaling (as provided by the CnQ-feature in the
cpu).
I got it to run on a Debian kernel-image after I put
powernowd-k8 and
cpufreq-userspace in /etc/modules. It was apparently
necessary to have
these loaded forcedly to get the powernowd daemon to
run.
regards,
Thomas
   


 


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Re: Time drift in amd64

2005-03-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 16:57 +0100, Martin Dickopp wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 10:24:30AM +0100, Martin Dickopp wrote:
[snip]
> True, but during one day, the earth has also moved on its orbit around
> the sun. The earth's velocity on its orbit around the sun is not
> constant, but dependent on the time of year.

!!!

Because of it's eliptical orbit?

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Re: powernowd / stock kernels

2005-03-04 Thread Zachary Rizer
Aha! You're right.

Works like a charm here as well. 

Thank you Thomas!


--- "T.J. Zeeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 11:06 -0800, Zachary Rizer
> wrote:
> > Please disregard previous email -- I just realized
> > powernowd is only on XP-M processors, and that
> what
> > I'm looking for is "Cool 'n Quiet". 
> > 
> > My mistake!
> 
> Actually, no mistake at all. I have an AMD64 and run
> powernowd to have
> cpu-scaling (as provided by the CnQ-feature in the
> cpu).
> 
> I got it to run on a Debian kernel-image after I put
> powernowd-k8 and
> cpufreq-userspace in /etc/modules. It was apparently
> necessary to have
> these loaded forcedly to get the powernowd daemon to
> run.
> 
> regards,
> Thomas
> 
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Re: powernowd / stock kernels

2005-03-04 Thread T.J. Zeeman
Hi,

On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 11:06 -0800, Zachary Rizer wrote:
> Please disregard previous email -- I just realized
> powernowd is only on XP-M processors, and that what
> I'm looking for is "Cool 'n Quiet". 
> 
> My mistake!

Actually, no mistake at all. I have an AMD64 and run powernowd to have
cpu-scaling (as provided by the CnQ-feature in the cpu).

I got it to run on a Debian kernel-image after I put powernowd-k8 and
cpufreq-userspace in /etc/modules. It was apparently necessary to have
these loaded forcedly to get the powernowd daemon to run.

regards,
Thomas


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pdl long int problem

2005-03-04 Thread Vanuxem Grégory
Hi,


>From testing version:

PDL(perl data language) in perldl shell (type perldl in shell):



# With PDL
$a= longlong 1;
$a++;
print $a;
5904

#With real perl
$a = 1;
$a++;
print $a;
10001




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Re: powernowd / stock kernels

2005-03-04 Thread Zachary Rizer
Please disregard previous email -- I just realized
powernowd is only on XP-M processors, and that what
I'm looking for is "Cool 'n Quiet". 

My mistake!

~Z
--- Zachary Rizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Is it possible to run powernowd with the stock
> kernel?
>  I'm getting the following when I try to start it:
> 
> -- snip --
> 
> Starting powernowd: Error writing file governor:
> Invalid argument
> Couldn't get per-cpu data: Illegal seek
> PowerNowd encountered and error and could not start.
> Please make sure that:
>  - You are running a v2.5/v2.6 kernel or later
>  - That you have sysfs mounted /sys
>  - That you have the core cpufreq and
> cpufreq-userspace
>modules loaded into your kernel
>  - That you have the cpufreq driver for your cpu
> loaded,
>and that it works. (check dmesg for errors)
> If all of the above are true, and you still have
> problems,
> please email the author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> invoke-rc.d: initscript powernowd, action "start"
> failed.
> 
> -- snip --
> 
> System information:
> Linux fortunado 2.6.8-10-amd64-k8 #1 Fri Jan 28
> 04:54:33 CET 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> Motherboard is an Nforce3 250
> 
> Proc:
> model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
> 
> /sys _is_ mounted, and:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/etc/init.d]$ lsmod|grep power
> powernow_k810440  0
> freq_table  5064  1 powernow_k8
> processor  18236  2 thermal,powernow_k8
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Thanks!
> Zaq
> 
> 
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powernowd / stock kernels

2005-03-04 Thread Zachary Rizer
Hi all,

Is it possible to run powernowd with the stock kernel?
 I'm getting the following when I try to start it:

-- snip --

Starting powernowd: Error writing file governor:
Invalid argument
Couldn't get per-cpu data: Illegal seek
PowerNowd encountered and error and could not start.
Please make sure that:
 - You are running a v2.5/v2.6 kernel or later
 - That you have sysfs mounted /sys
 - That you have the core cpufreq and
cpufreq-userspace
   modules loaded into your kernel
 - That you have the cpufreq driver for your cpu
loaded,
   and that it works. (check dmesg for errors)
If all of the above are true, and you still have
problems,
please email the author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
invoke-rc.d: initscript powernowd, action "start"
failed.

-- snip --

System information:
Linux fortunado 2.6.8-10-amd64-k8 #1 Fri Jan 28
04:54:33 CET 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Motherboard is an Nforce3 250

Proc:
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+

/sys _is_ mounted, and:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/etc/init.d]$ lsmod|grep power
powernow_k810440  0
freq_table  5064  1 powernow_k8
processor  18236  2 thermal,powernow_k8

Ideas?

Thanks!
Zaq




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Re: Which netinst ISO to use for /debian-pure64 (Sarge)?

2005-03-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi.
>
> I used a netinst ISO from Feb 16th, but it has at least two issues:
>
> 1) libc6 is installed in a version not available in debian-pure64
> and therefor build-essentials isn't installable unless the user
> specifically downgrades libc6 (and bash and base-files)

You used an outdated sid image. The fixed image was uploaded on the
19th more than 2 weeks ago.

> 2) The Sysmlinks for the current kernel are created in /boot rather than
> in / (where both grub and lilo expect it to be). So the user has to
> drop to a shell and manually set the links at the right place to
> make grub/lilo work.
>
> So, which ISO should I use for installations when I intend to use
> /debian-pure64 (sarge)?

The latest, preferably the sarge image.

> regards,
> Sven

MfG
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Re: Which netinst ISO to use for /debian-pure64 (Sarge)?

2005-03-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 06:29:25PM +0100, Sven Mueller wrote:
> I used a netinst ISO from Feb 16th, but it has at least two issues:
> 
> 1) libc6 is installed in a version not available in debian-pure64
>and therefor build-essentials isn't installable unless the user
>specifically downgrades libc6 (and bash and base-files)
> 2) The Sysmlinks for the current kernel are created in /boot rather than
>in / (where both grub and lilo expect it to be). So the user has to
>drop to a shell and manually set the links at the right place to
>make grub/lilo work.

Grub has always expected the boot files to be in /boot, only the default
lilo setup uses those idiotic symlinks that clutter up /

Fortunately /etc/kernel-img.conf allows one to turn of the creation of
those symlinks.

> So, which ISO should I use for installations when I intend to use 
> /debian-pure64 (sarge)?

Haven't installed in a while, so not sure.

Len Sorensen


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Which netinst ISO to use for /debian-pure64 (Sarge)?

2005-03-04 Thread Sven Mueller
Hi.
I used a netinst ISO from Feb 16th, but it has at least two issues:
1) libc6 is installed in a version not available in debian-pure64
   and therefor build-essentials isn't installable unless the user
   specifically downgrades libc6 (and bash and base-files)
2) The Sysmlinks for the current kernel are created in /boot rather than
   in / (where both grub and lilo expect it to be). So the user has to
   drop to a shell and manually set the links at the right place to
   make grub/lilo work.
So, which ISO should I use for installations when I intend to use 
/debian-pure64 (sarge)?

regards,
Sven
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Re: FW: RE: x86_64 port

2005-03-04 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 11:13:28AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> Do any of you know if this is a known problem?
> 
> - Forwarded message from Simon Marlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> 
> From: Simon Marlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:03:31 -
> To: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org
> Subject: RE: x86_64 port
> 
> On 04 March 2005 16:59, John Goerzen wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 04:57:04PM -, Simon Marlow wrote:
> >> On 04 March 2005 14:04, John Goerzen wrote:
>  My amd64 hardware arrived yesterday, shouldn't be too long before
>  we have a registerised port of GHC, and possibly a native code
>  generator...
> >>> 
> >>>  excellent 
> >> 
> >> Don't hold your breath, I have some bad news.  It seems that gcc is
> >> still generating incorrect code for register variables (or maybe it's
> >> broken again?).
> > 
> > Which version of gcc?
> 
> gcc (GCC) 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3)

I have no idea what ghc has too do with gcc, or what the problem
exactly is.  We have very little problems with gcc for the debian
amd64 port.  Our default compiler is still 3.3.  This builds
almost everything without problems, however we build a few
mozilla packages with gcc-3.4.

All I can tell is that ghc6 seems to be working on debian amd64.
It can build itself and things like that.

Can someone please give a test case (and show what to do) to see
what is wrong?

Out current default compiler in debian is:
gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8)

The gcc 3.4 version is:
gcc version 3.4.4 20050203 (prerelease) (Debian 3.4.3-9)

And ghc6 is at version 6.2.2-3.


Kurt


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FW: RE: x86_64 port

2005-03-04 Thread John Goerzen
Do any of you know if this is a known problem?

- Forwarded message from Simon Marlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

From: Simon Marlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:03:31 -
To: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org
Subject: RE: x86_64 port

On 04 March 2005 16:59, John Goerzen wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 04:57:04PM -, Simon Marlow wrote:
>> On 04 March 2005 14:04, John Goerzen wrote:
 My amd64 hardware arrived yesterday, shouldn't be too long before
 we have a registerised port of GHC, and possibly a native code
 generator...
>>> 
>>>  excellent 
>> 
>> Don't hold your breath, I have some bad news.  It seems that gcc is
>> still generating incorrect code for register variables (or maybe it's
>> broken again?).
> 
> Which version of gcc?

gcc (GCC) 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3)


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transcode filter plugins

2005-03-04 Thread David Liontooth
I'm experimenting with capturing television using transcode and
getting very interesting results from the following:
transcode -x v4l2 -o tv2.avi -f 30 -i /dev/video0 -y ffmpeg -F mpeg4  \
-p /dev/dsp -b 128 -g 720x480  -I 1 --print_status 20 -u 128  -H 0  \
-w 1500  -J hqdn3d=pre=1  -J smartyuv
With Christian Marillat's new yasm package for Debian pure64, the 
machine keeps up with the 29.97 fps with an astounding 12% CPU usage 
(Opteron 240). (The aspect ratio must not be changed or you'll run out 
of capture buffers.)

However, I get "Command not found" for both -J hqdn3d=pre=1 and -J 
smartyuv, also when I only include them one at a time.

Does anyone have these transcode filter plugins working on amd64?
Cheers,
Dave

ranscode v0.6.14 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg
[transcode] V: import frame | 720x480  1.50:1
[transcode] V: de-interlace | (mode=1) interpolate scanlines (fast)
[transcode] V: bits/pixel   | 0.145 (low)
[transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 30.000,0
[transcode] V: Y'CbCr   | YV12/I420
[transcode] A: import format| 0x2000  AC3  [48000,16,2]
[transcode] A: export format| 0x55MPEG layer-3 [48000,16,2]  128
kbps
[transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 29.970,4
[transcode] A: bytes per frame  | 6408 (6406.40)
[transcode] A: adjustment   | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tc_memcpy: using libc for memcpy
[transcode] V: video buffer | 128 @ 720x480
[import_v4l2.so] v1.3.4 (2004-08-25) (video) v4l2 | (audio) pcm
[export_ffmpeg.so] v0.3.13 (2004-08-03) (video) FFmpegcvsb4736 | (audio)
MPEG/AC3/PCM
[import_v4l2.so]: v4l2 audio grabbing
[import_v4l2.so]: v4l2 video grabbing
[import_v4l2.so]: resync disabled
[import_v4l2.so]: video grabbing, driver = bttv, card = BT878 video
(AVerMedia TVCaptur
[import_v4l2.so]: Pixel format conversion: YVU420 [planar] -> YUV420
[planar] (no conversion)
[import_v4l2.so]: driver does not support setting parameters
(ioctl(VIDIOC_S_PARM) returns "Invalid argument")
[import_v4l2.so]: checking colour & framerate standards: [NTSC]
[import_v4l2.so]: receiving 30 frames / sec
[import_v4l2.so]: driver does not support cropping
(ioctl(VIDIOC_CROPCAP) returns "Invalid argument"), disabled
[import_v4l2.so]: 32 buffers available
[export_ffmpeg.so] Using FFMPEG codec 'mpeg4' (FourCC 'DIVX', MPEG4
compliant video).
[export_ffmpeg.so]: WARNING: Interlacing parameters unknown, use
--encode_fields
[export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: No profile selected
[export_ffmpeg.so] Neither './ffmpeg.cfg' nor '~/.transcode/ffmpeg.cfg'
[export_ffmpeg.so] found. Default settings will be used instead.
[export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Starting 1 thread(s)
[export_ffmpeg.so]: INFO: Set display aspect ratio to input
Audio: using new version
Audio: using lame-3.96.1
encoding frames [00-60],  29.97 fps, EMT: 0:00:02, ( 0| 0| 1)
[transcode] (sighandler) SIGINT received
[import_v4l2.so]: Totals: sequence V/A: 64/65, frames C/D: 0/0
clean up | frame threads | unload modules | cancel signal | internal
threads | done
[transcode] encoded 63 frames (0 dropped, 0 cloned), clip length   2.10 s
./tv-transcode: line 19: -J: command not found


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Re: Time drift in amd64

2005-03-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 04:57:12PM +0100, Martin Dickopp wrote:
> True, but during one day, the earth has also moved on its orbit around
> the sun. The earth's velocity on its orbit around the sun is not
> constant, but dependent on the time of year.

Hmm, good point.  But it doesn't make a difference of an hour.  15
minutes at the extreme is still quite a bit though.

> They don't, unless they take the equation of time into account.

Hmm, yeah I do have a slider on my portable sundial that would take care
of that.  Works reasonably well.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Sundials

2005-03-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hugo Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 10:37:17AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
>> The sun does peak the same time every day, but it's only at noon exactly
>> if you are in the right place on the planet (for your time zone).  If
>> you are east or west of that the time will be off a bit, but it will
>> still be the same every day.  
>
>Actually, that's not true. It varies quite a bit, as Martin
> said. Take a look at the Equation of Time[1]. The variation isn't
> anything like as much as the hour that Martin said -- it's about +/-
> 15 minutes over the year.  The reason it varies is (IIRC) to do with
> the fact that the Earth's orbit isn't circular.

That is true but a good sundial can compensate for this with a
specialy shaped rod or multiple scales (and you use the one at the tip
of the shadow).

MfG
Goswin


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RE: Time drift in amd64

2005-03-04 Thread Latchezar Dimitrov
OED:

Noon, n.

2. a. The time when the sun reaches the meridian; twelve o'clock in the
day; midday 

:-)

Latchezar
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Dickopp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:57 AM
> To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Time drift in amd64
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 10:24:30AM +0100, Martin Dickopp wrote:
> >> Both of you are joking, I take it. But just in case someone is 
> >> tempted to take this suggestion serious: The sun position 
> does *not* 
> >> peak at 12:00 "winter time" or 13:00 summer time. The 
> deviation can 
> >> be an hour or more, and furthermore it changes every day.
> >
> > The sun does peak the same time every day,
> 
> No. Look up what the "equation of time" is. I find the 
> Wikipedia article 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equation_of_time quite good.
> 
> > The earth is pretty consistent in rotating at a steady speed.
> 
> True, but during one day, the earth has also moved on its 
> orbit around the sun. The earth's velocity on its orbit 
> around the sun is not constant, but dependent on the time of year.
> 
> > Otherwise sundials wouldn't work very well.
> 
> They don't, unless they take the equation of time into account.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
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Re: Sundials

2005-03-04 Thread Dave Ewart
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On Friday, 04.03.2005 at 17:10 +0100, Martin Dickopp wrote:

> Just for the record, I didn't say that the equation of time is up to
> one hour, but that the discrepancy between 12:00 (or 13:00 summer
> time) and the peak position of the sun can be one hour or more. This
> discrepancy is mostly due to the constant difference between local
> time (i.e. /mean/ solar time) and zone time.

In some parts of the world, there will be even more of a difference:
doesn't China have the same time zone for the whole country, covering
many thousands of miles West to East?

Dave.
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Re: Sundials

2005-03-04 Thread Martin Dickopp
Hugo Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 10:37:17AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 10:24:30AM +0100, Martin Dickopp wrote:
>> > Both of you are joking, I take it. But just in case someone is tempted
>> > to take this suggestion serious: The sun position does *not* peak at
>> > 12:00 "winter time" or 13:00 summer time. The deviation can be an hour
>> > or more, and furthermore it changes every day.
>> 
>> The sun does peak the same time every day, but it's only at noon exactly
>> if you are in the right place on the planet (for your time zone).  If
>> you are east or west of that the time will be off a bit, but it will
>> still be the same every day.  
>
>Actually, that's not true. It varies quite a bit, as Martin
> said. Take a look at the Equation of Time[1]. The variation isn't
> anything like as much as the hour that Martin said -- it's about +/-
> 15 minutes over the year.

Just for the record, I didn't say that the equation of time is up to one
hour, but that the discrepancy between 12:00 (or 13:00 summer time) and
the peak position of the sun can be one hour or more. This discrepancy
is mostly due to the constant difference between local time (i.e. /mean/
solar time) and zone time.

Martin


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Re: Time drift in amd64

2005-03-04 Thread Martin Dickopp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:

> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 10:24:30AM +0100, Martin Dickopp wrote:
>> Both of you are joking, I take it. But just in case someone is tempted
>> to take this suggestion serious: The sun position does *not* peak at
>> 12:00 "winter time" or 13:00 summer time. The deviation can be an hour
>> or more, and furthermore it changes every day.
>
> The sun does peak the same time every day,

No. Look up what the "equation of time" is. I find the Wikipedia article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equation_of_time quite good.

> The earth is pretty consistent in rotating at a steady speed.

True, but during one day, the earth has also moved on its orbit around
the sun. The earth's velocity on its orbit around the sun is not
constant, but dependent on the time of year.

> Otherwise sundials wouldn't work very well.

They don't, unless they take the equation of time into account.

Martin


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Sundials (was: Re: Time drift in amd64)

2005-03-04 Thread Hugo Mills
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 10:37:17AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 10:24:30AM +0100, Martin Dickopp wrote:
> > Both of you are joking, I take it. But just in case someone is tempted
> > to take this suggestion serious: The sun position does *not* peak at
> > 12:00 "winter time" or 13:00 summer time. The deviation can be an hour
> > or more, and furthermore it changes every day.
> 
> The sun does peak the same time every day, but it's only at noon exactly
> if you are in the right place on the planet (for your time zone).  If
> you are east or west of that the time will be off a bit, but it will
> still be the same every day.  

   Actually, that's not true. It varies quite a bit, as Martin
said. Take a look at the Equation of Time[1]. The variation isn't
anything like as much as the hour that Martin said -- it's about +/-
15 minutes over the year.  The reason it varies is (IIRC) to do with
the fact that the Earth's orbit isn't circular.

> The earth is pretty consistent in rotating
> at a steady speed.  Otherwise sundials wouldn't work very well.

   Basic sundials such as those seen in many people's gardens *don't*
work very well, for the very reason given above (and the fact that
they're rarely set up properly). A good sundial installation will
always have some method of correcting for the current position in the
equation of time, usually either by having a date-driven graticule on
the plate, or by having a suitably-shaped gnomon. I've also seen
sundials with the equation of time inscribed in the plate, so that you
can do the correction manually.

   Hugo.

[1] http://www.sundials.co.uk/equation.htm

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Re: rsyncd.conf updated

2005-03-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Pedro Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 22:56 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> small intermittend update. rsyncd.conf has been updated to the
>> following modules:
>> 
>> root  => /  (same as 
>> http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/)
>> debian=> /debian(mirror of debian sarge+sid 
>> source+all)
>> debian-pure64 => /debian-pure64 (gcc-3.3 compiled sarge+sid)
>> debian-pure64-4.0 => /debian-pure64-4.0 (to be gcc-3.4/gcc-4.0 compiled 
>> sarge+sid)
>> 
>> Sample mirror scripts to come.
>> 
>> MfG
>> Goswin
>> 
>> 
> So, the only difference today between "debian" and "debian-pure64" is
> that the former carries the sources. Is this correct?

No, [debian] is a partial mirror of ftp.debain.org containing sources
and architecture independant packages. There is nothing from amd64 in
there.

> Also, at some point in the future when we drop gcc-3.3, "debian" will
> carry the new official rep with either gcc-3.4 or gcc-4.0. Is this
> correct?

gcc-3.3 will not be droped.
  
> -- 
> Pedro

MfG
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Re: Time drift in amd64

2005-03-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 10:24:30AM +0100, Martin Dickopp wrote:
> Both of you are joking, I take it. But just in case someone is tempted
> to take this suggestion serious: The sun position does *not* peak at
> 12:00 "winter time" or 13:00 summer time. The deviation can be an hour
> or more, and furthermore it changes every day.

The sun does peak the same time every day, but it's only at noon exactly
if you are in the right place on the planet (for your time zone).  If
you are east or west of that the time will be off a bit, but it will
still be the same every day.  The earth is pretty consistent in rotating
at a steady speed.  Otherwise sundials wouldn't work very well.

Len Sorensen


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Re: can't connect to internet anymore

2005-03-04 Thread Stephen Waters
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 01:43 +0100, Alexandru Cabuz wrote:
> My AMD64 sid box was running along nicely until yesterday, when after
> a reboot it didn't want to connect to the internet anymore. I am using
> dhcp, and when I start the client here is what I get:

I've had this happen. Usually it's because discover or modprobe or
whatever-the-tool-of-the-week-is has decided to load the ethernet
drivers in a different order, changing the eth0->eth1 and eth1->eth0.

I think there's a modprobe config file thing you can use to give drivers
specific eth? names but maybe that's only on Redhat. (I don't know).

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Re: Time drift in amd64

2005-03-04 Thread Stephen Waters
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 01:54 +0100, Carsten Prieà wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:32:28 -0800
> Alex Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Once you know what the drift value is, you can tell the kernel (using
> > the adjtime related commands) and it will apply the correction for
> > you.
> I had the problem with x86. Not 8-10/s/h, but 10-15min/h. 
> However the difference isn't constant. I solved the problem with ntp,
> too ... but in my opinion this isn't clean.

Also, keep in mind that if you move your O/S install to a new
motherboard and/or processor, you should zero out the /etc/adjtime
according to the manpage. Don't just delete it or delete all the lines
or NTP will get upset.

It happened to me!
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Re: bind mount in 32bit chroot

2005-03-04 Thread Stephen Waters
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 00:16 +0100, Carsten Prieà wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 17:47:47 -0500 Tong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is not clear. Should I do it in the chroot environment, or out
> > side it? If I should do it in the chroot environment, isn't that 
> 
> Not in chroot. Do it in basesystem. Should be clear because of the full
> path.

It's not obvious or he wouldn't've asked the question...  ;)

> > Q2, how about devices, Shouldn't /dev be bind mounted?
> I'm not sure about this, but I think this is processed when creating the
> chroot.

This is true, though I think there are 2 options:

 1) let the debian process create /$CHROOT/dev, then remove any junk you
don't need (since it's eating inodes).

 2) let debian create the /$CHROOT/dev. Then, rm -rf /$CHROOT/dev and
bind mount to the master /dev so 32-bit processes can, e.g., access USB
and other hotplug devices.

Cheers!
-sw

p.s., jealous of Carsten's scotch. All I got is cheap brandy at home and
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Re: rsyncd.conf updated

2005-03-04 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 22:56 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> small intermittend update. rsyncd.conf has been updated to the
> following modules:
> 
> root  => /  (same as 
> http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/)
> debian=> /debian(mirror of debian sarge+sid 
> source+all)
> debian-pure64 => /debian-pure64 (gcc-3.3 compiled sarge+sid)
> debian-pure64-4.0 => /debian-pure64-4.0 (to be gcc-3.4/gcc-4.0 compiled 
> sarge+sid)
> 
> Sample mirror scripts to come.
> 
> MfG
> Goswin
> 
> 
So, the only difference today between "debian" and "debian-pure64" is
that the former carries the sources. Is this correct?

Also, at some point in the future when we drop gcc-3.3, "debian" will
carry the new official rep with either gcc-3.4 or gcc-4.0. Is this
correct?
 
-- 
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Which motherboard to begin tests ?

2005-03-04 Thread Jean-Charles Preaux
Hello,
I want to test 64 bits architecture with SATA drives.
Which motherboard (company and ref.) can i choose to begin my tests ?
Thanks
JCP
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Re: debian-cd and amd64/pure64 images?

2005-03-04 Thread Jan Kesten

Hello, Goswin and others,

>> try to build - anything that I must taken care of? Of course, since
>> amd64/prure64 is seperate I need to change paths to mirror
>> directory. Anything else?

> Please send success or failure reports to debian-amd64. I don't think
> anyone tried building a CD/DVD set in a long while.

How I found some time to have some tests :-) Seems to work quite good,
but before I could start, I had to add amd64 to tools/grab_md5 (which
doesn't know about amd64).

Then while building images, there was a corrupted file
(gap-small-groups_4r4p4-1_all.deb) and generating fast_sums noticed
something about too many symlink levels - this is quite interesting,
that in both cases there is sarge mentioned, but I tried building images
for sid :-)

Unfortunately my own amd64 test system is currently not available to me
- so now I have images, but no way to test them. If anyone likes to do
so, I can make jigdo templates public for them. If they work, I can
leave them online for anyone who likes to have them :-)

Cheers,
Jan

--- SNIP ---

done
1 ...
done.
2 ...
done.
3 ...
done.
set -e; \
 for i in /home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/*.packages; do \
dir=${i%%.packages}; \
dir=${dir##/home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/}; \
dir=/home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/CD$dir; \
/srv/mirror/debian-cd/tools/scanpackages install $dir; \
done
 dists/sid/main/binary-amd64/: New 7897kB 6908 files 4586MB 37m11s
 dists/sid/non-free/binary-amd64/: New 17.2kB 15 files 19.2MB 10s
 dists/sid/contrib/binary-amd64/: New 54.0kB 45 files 29.0MB 16s
Done Packages, Starting contents.
Done. 4634MB in 6968 archives. Took 37m38s
 dists/sid/main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/: New 4141B 4 files 529kB 27s
Done Packages, Starting contents.
Done. 529kB in 4 archives. Took 27s
 dists/sid/main/binary-amd64/:
E: Corrupted archive
E: Errors apply to file
'/home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/CD2/pool/unstable/main/amd64/g/gap-gdat/gap-small-groups_4r4p4-1_all.deb'
 New 7797kB 7524 files 4302MB 41m47s
 dists/sid/non-free/binary-amd64/: New 193kB 172 files 275MB 1m54s
 dists/sid/contrib/binary-amd64/: New 118kB 110 files 33.0MB 24s
Done Packages, Starting contents.
Done. 4610MB in 7806 archives. Took 44m9s
 dists/sid/main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/: New 177kB 234 files
23.3MB 54s
Done Packages, Starting contents.
Done. 23.3MB in 234 archives. Took 55s
 dists/sid/main/binary-amd64/: New 463kB 427 files 145MB 1m44s
 dists/sid/non-free/binary-amd64/: New 80.6kB 67 files 65.2MB 30s
 dists/sid/contrib/binary-amd64/: New 20B 0 files 0B 0s
Done Packages, Starting contents.
Done. 210MB in 494 archives. Took 2m16s
 dists/sid/main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/: New 20B 0 files 0B 0s
Done Packages, Starting contents.
Done. 0B in 0 archives. Took 0s
touch /home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/packages-stamp
Generating sid-secured on all the binary CDs ...
set -e; \
 for file in /home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/*.packages; do \
dir=${file%%.packages}; \
n=${dir##/home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/}; \
dir=/home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/CD$n; \
cd $dir; \
/srv/mirror/debian-cd/tools/add_secured; \
done
touch /home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/secured-stamp
Generating md5sum of files from all the binary CDs ...
set -e; \
if [ "$FASTSUMS" != "1" ] ; then \
 for file in /home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/*.packages; do \
dir=${file%%.packages}; \
n=${dir##/home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/}; \
dir=/home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/CD$n; \
test -x "/srv/mirror/debian-cd/tools/sid.hook" && cd
/home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64 && /srv/mirror/debian-cd/tools/sid.hook $n
before-mkisofs; \
cd $dir; \
find . -follow -type f | grep -v "\./md5sum" | grep -v \
"dists/stable" | grep -v "dists/frozen" | \
grep -v "dists/unstable" | xargs /usr/bin/md5sum.textutils >
md5sum.txt ; \
 done \
else \
 /srv/mirror/debian-cd/tools/fast_sums /home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64; \
fi
Couldn't open file: /home/ifjke/tmp/sid-amd64/indices-non-US/md5sums at
/srv/mirror/debian-cd/tools/fast_sums line 32.
find: ./dists/sid/sarge: Too many levels of symbolic links
find: ./dists/testing/sarge: Too many levels of symbolic links


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Re: Time drift in amd64

2005-03-04 Thread Martin Dickopp
Alex Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Without I-Net just look outside the window every once in a while and
>> run 'date -s "12:00:00"' when the sun it at its peak.
>
> When you do this, if you live in a location that has summer time, don't
> forget to either use "13:0:0" in summer or change the TZ environment
> variable to temporarily override the summer time correction.  eg:
>
> TZ=PST date -s 12:0:0

Both of you are joking, I take it. But just in case someone is tempted
to take this suggestion serious: The sun position does *not* peak at
12:00 "winter time" or 13:00 summer time. The deviation can be an hour
or more, and furthermore it changes every day.

Martin


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Re: Successfull install, problems with nvidia video drivers

2005-03-04 Thread kourosh
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 09:24 +0100, Thomas J. Zeeman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >   nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629 but it is not installable
> > E: Broken packages
> > -
> 
> Have you installed the nvidia-kernel-source package and created a deb with
> the kernel-module with it? IIRC that was what you needed to do before you
> could install the rest because there is no nvidia-kernel package in amd64
> as there is in i386.
> Instructions can be found in
> /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source/README.Debian
> 
> regards,
> Thomas
> 

Thanks Thomas.  That seems to have been the key.  I'm not sure why I had
so much trouble with the nvidia drivers this time around as setting them
up on my laptop was a piece of cake.  I think I was doing things out of
order.  Anyway, that fixed it.

Thanks again.

Kourosh


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Re: Successfull install, problems with nvidia video drivers

2005-03-04 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman

Hi,

> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629 but it is not installable
> E: Broken packages
> -

Have you installed the nvidia-kernel-source package and created a deb with
the kernel-module with it? IIRC that was what you needed to do before you
could install the rest because there is no nvidia-kernel package in amd64
as there is in i386.
Instructions can be found in
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source/README.Debian

regards,
Thomas



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