Re: 32 chroot - Openoffice has no menus

2005-04-08 Thread Clive Menzies
On (07/04/05 21:53), Antti Pyykko wrote:
 On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Tobias Krais wrote:
 
 But now I want to start my Openoffice - and well it starts, but 
 without Menus.
 
 Strange. I have the very same problem now. I have OpenOffice.org 
 installed with the necessary ia32 libs, and it has worked fine for the 
 last 6 months. But now when I start Writer, it has no menus.
 
 I swear it was working just fine about a week ago!
 
 Like this:
 http://rhea.oamk.fi/~pyanil00/temp/ooo/ooo_menus.png
Tobias's problem was resolved by installing the .de localised package
for OOo (check the thread to the end)

Maybe reinstall the localised package.

Regards

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Firefox and java

2005-04-08 Thread Lorenzo Milesi
hi

I've downloaded jre from blackdown, in order to use it for as the java
plugin for firefox (as I saw some time ago in this list).
it's all fine but the plugin isn't shown in about:plugins
I had a look at the link I made and I got this:

$ ldd libjavaplugin_oji.so 
libjvm.so = not found
libverify.so = not found
libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x2abee000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x2ad04000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x2ae08000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 = /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
(0x5000)

libjvm and libverify are part of the blackdown, and are in some /usr subdir.
Why I get that not found?

thanks
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Re: Firefox and java

2005-04-08 Thread Sythos
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 02:11:42PM +0200, Lorenzo Milesi wrote:
 $ ldd libjavaplugin_oji.so 
 libjvm.so = not found
 libverify.so = not found
 libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x2abee000)
 libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x2ad04000)
 libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x2ae08000)
 /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 = /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
 (0x5000)
 libjvm and libverify are part of the blackdown, and are in some /usr subdir.
 Why I get that not found?

try to create symbolic lync in /lib/

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broken ssl in evolution-2.2

2005-04-08 Thread Andrei Mikhailovsky
Hello.

after upgrading to evolution-2.2 my imaps mailboxes stoped working with
error: SSL unsupported. I've checked the sources and in debian/rules
there is --without-ssl option. I've tried compiling without this option,
the ssl unsupported is still there.

in my chroot, ssl works fine. 

After doing ldd on evolution i get the following:

chroot:
$ which evolution-2.2 |xargs ldd |grep ssl |wc -l
1
$ which evolution-2.2 |xargs ldd |grep tls |wc -l
8


non-chroot:
$ which evolution-2.2 |xargs ldd |grep ssl |wc -l
0
$ which evolution-2.2 |xargs ldd |grep tls |wc -l
1

Is there a particular reason for disabling ssl support?

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openoffice in chroot and java

2005-04-08 Thread jmt
Hi,

I am running OpenOffice in a chroot (as described in debian-amd64-howto), but 
the version packaged is 1.1.3 ; and I am supposed to test the new 2.0 beta.

I installed this version (using alien, since this beta is packaged as rpm's).
Now the question is : which version of java am I to install in order to get 
OpenOffice java librairies be accessible ?

Running `apt-cache search j2sdk'  in the chroot did not lead to an available 
j2sdk package.

With many thanks,

jmt


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VMware in pure64?

2005-04-08 Thread Major A

Hi,

Have any of you got VMware working in pure64? I've tried all kinds of
combinations, 5 Beta, 4.5.2 with any-any-update89 patch, inside,
outside, or partially inside the ia32 chroot, but it never seems to
work. In the worst case (installing inside chroot) it can't build the
kernel modules, in the best case so far (installing in pure64), it
installs fine but the bridged ethernet interface says failed instead
of done and it considers VMware being incorrectly configured from
then on.

If you've successfully installed VMware, please let me know how it's
done.

  Andras

P.S.: The chroot works fine for most things (OO, mplayer, etc.),
  except Mozilla Firefox.


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Re: VMware in pure64?

2005-04-08 Thread Ruslan N. Gogunski
Hello,
sorry for my english.
I use pure64 Sarge with kernel from kernel.org 2.6.11,
5 Beta work perfectly for me:Fedore Core 2 and Solaris 10 work on it in 
console. I didn't try use X on it.
I simply unzip vmware*.tar.gz and run vmware-install.pl

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:01:52 +0200
Major A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 Have any of you got VMware working in pure64? I've tried all kinds of
 combinations, 5 Beta, 4.5.2 with any-any-update89 patch, inside,
 outside, or partially inside the ia32 chroot, but it never seems to
 work. In the worst case (installing inside chroot) it can't build the
 kernel modules, in the best case so far (installing in pure64), it
 installs fine but the bridged ethernet interface says failed instead
 of done and it considers VMware being incorrectly configured from
 then on.
 
 If you've successfully installed VMware, please let me know how it's
 done.
 
   Andras
 
 P.S.: The chroot works fine for most things (OO, mplayer, etc.),
   except Mozilla Firefox.
 
 
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Re: VMware in pure64?

2005-04-08 Thread Mark Nipper
On 08 Apr 2005, Major A wrote:
 If you've successfully installed VMware, please let me know how it's
 done.

I'd ask you what kernel version you are using as I just
had to revert from 2.6.12-rc2 on a machine back to 2.6.10 (I've
just skipped 2.6.11.? entirely up to this point and 2.6.10 was
stable for a long time on this machine so might as well go with
what I know works) under i386 because neither 4.5.2 nor the
5.0-rc2 beta would work with 2.6.12-rc2.

4.5.2 sort of worked, some of the time, but on at least a
few occasions caused an oops when I tried to load the modules and
on other occasions would fail after some undetermined period of
time with bizarre network problems to follow such as NFS dropouts
and things like ifconfig hanging indefinitely.  I finally threw
in the towel and decided to try 5.0-rc2 but had similar problems
with modules failing to load on installation.

So I imagine x86-64 is not much better (and if anything,
much worse).  I had been using the 89 patchset from Petr with
4.5.2.  I'm hoping after 2.6.12 is official he'll release
something newer to deal with whatever changes are causing the
problems.  And no, I have not reported the problems officially
even though I really should.

So, long story short, you might try 2.6.11.7 or maybe
even 2.6.10 under x86-64 if you are running something 2.6.12ish
right now.

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Help choosing hardware

2005-04-08 Thread Dale Scheetz
I have been talking with the SPARC developers about just what kind of
machine I should by for a project I have been assigned. Remarkably
they suggested processors other than SPARC.

I have been working for the State of Florida, Department of State,
Division of Cultural Affairs for several years now. We make grants to
arts agencies and musuems, and in support of that effort I have been
tasked with producing a new database system for online access by our
clients. Of course I'm building it in Linux (specifically Debian) and
am integrating PHP4, PostgreSQL, Apache, and Smarty code to produce
this product.

While I am currently working on a crumby Gateway machine, which is ok
for development but hasn't got the horsepower to actually perform as a
server, I obvioulsy need a heftier machine when the product goes into
production.

The SPARC developers suggested two processors: Opteron, and Xeon.

On the face of it the Opteron looks like the better choice, being a 64
bit machine, but on the other hand I can run a Xeon machine with two
processors...

Although I know that Debian hasn't released an official AMD64 port, I
have seen several distros that use it (like Ubuntu) so my first guess
is that it is mature enough for me to use on this project.

I am looking for feedback from this group, letting me know if I'm on
the right track, or if there are reasons that I should go with the
Xeon instead.

All suggestions appreciated. I am not subscribed to this list, so
please CC me in your reply.

Waiting is,

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Re: Help choosing hardware

2005-04-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 03:02:57PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
 I have been talking with the SPARC developers about just what kind of
 machine I should by for a project I have been assigned. Remarkably
 they suggested processors other than SPARC.
 
 I have been working for the State of Florida, Department of State,
 Division of Cultural Affairs for several years now. We make grants to
 arts agencies and musuems, and in support of that effort I have been
 tasked with producing a new database system for online access by our
 clients. Of course I'm building it in Linux (specifically Debian) and
 am integrating PHP4, PostgreSQL, Apache, and Smarty code to produce
 this product.
 
 While I am currently working on a crumby Gateway machine, which is ok
 for development but hasn't got the horsepower to actually perform as a
 server, I obvioulsy need a heftier machine when the product goes into
 production.
 
 The SPARC developers suggested two processors: Opteron, and Xeon.
 
 On the face of it the Opteron looks like the better choice, being a 64
 bit machine, but on the other hand I can run a Xeon machine with two
 processors...

You can get dual and quad opteron machines and they probably have much
better bandwidth than the xeon's since they don't share a bus to get to
memory (well at least no in all cases they don't.  opteron's connect to
each other with hypertransport and each control some mmeory directly,
while other cpus can relay access to the memory at a delay of a clock
cycle).  In a few months you should even be able to get dual core
opteron's so you can get up to 8 cores in a simple server.

Of course anything with more than one cpu isn't cheap (although compared
to a sun sparc system they probably are cheap).  An athlon 64 system is
cheap, but an opteron system is quite a bit more, although nowhere near
what a xeon system costs.

 Although I know that Debian hasn't released an official AMD64 port, I
 have seen several distros that use it (like Ubuntu) so my first guess
 is that it is mature enough for me to use on this project.

Well certainly the amd64 debian-pure64 sarge runs great for me, and
certainly many other people.  I imagine there are some programs that
don't work yet, but the 32bit chroot works perfectly too for running the
occational i386 binary so it is rather flexible that way.

 I am looking for feedback from this group, letting me know if I'm on
 the right track, or if there are reasons that I should go with the
 Xeon instead.

I certainly would not buy anything based on the Pentium4 design
personally given what the Opteron is capable off.

 All suggestions appreciated. I am not subscribed to this list, so
 please CC me in your reply.

If nothing else an opteron runs the i386 version of debian faster
thananything else, and if you need 64bit support, it can do that too (I
believe sarge does have amd64-libs and an amd64 kernel that can be used
on i386 sarge to run 64bit programs when there is a need for 64bit).

Len Sorensen


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Re: Help choosing hardware

2005-04-08 Thread Oliver Korpilla
 On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 03:02:57PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
 Of course anything with more than one cpu isn't cheap (although compared
 to a sun sparc system they probably are cheap).  An athlon 64 system is
 cheap, but an opteron system is quite a bit more, although nowhere near
 what a xeon system costs.

I wouldn't necessarily say that, as I was able to specify a reasonable
dual-processor workstation for what my current computer cost including the
monitor. HP offers dual-proc workstations starting 1900 $, and I was able to
specify one self-built for about 1500 Euro.

 Well certainly the amd64 debian-pure64 sarge runs great for me, and
 certainly many other people.  I imagine there are some programs that
 don't work yet, but the 32bit chroot works perfectly too for running the
 occational i386 binary so it is rather flexible that way.

You have even several other OS choices. You could use Debian, Gentoo, Fedora
or SuSE Linux, or you could use FreeBSD for x86-64 (worked like a charm for
me), and next month there is said to be Windows support as well (though a
pal of mine says his release candidate is unable to run a 32-Bit app without
crashing it ;) ). So you basically run no risc here!!!

  I am looking for feedback from this group, letting me know if I'm on
  the right track, or if there are reasons that I should go with the
  Xeon instead.
 
 I certainly would not buy anything based on the Pentium4 design
 personally given what the Opteron is capable off.

Think power dissipation and heat. A P4-based processor has a much higher
power consumption than an Opteron, requiring bigger fans, coolers, more
system fans, overheats more easily and is more prone to failure. It is
simply more reliable in the long run. (Does AMD pay me for this - they
should!)

 
  All suggestions appreciated. I am not subscribed to this list, so
  please CC me in your reply.
 
 If nothing else an opteron runs the i386 version of debian faster
 thananything else, and if you need 64bit support, it can do that too (I
 believe sarge does have amd64-libs and an amd64 kernel that can be used
 on i386 sarge to run 64bit programs when there is a need for 64bit).

My tip would be: CHOOSE YOUR BOARD WISELY!!! Go for a well-supported board
and everything will be A-OK. (If in doubt, ask on the list)

With kind regards,
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Re: Help choosing hardware

2005-04-08 Thread Alex Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If nothing else an opteron runs the i386 version of debian faster
thananything else, and if you need 64bit support, it can do that too (I
believe sarge does have amd64-libs and an amd64 kernel that can be used
on i386 sarge to run 64bit programs when there is a need for 64bit).
The 64 bit kernels are completely stable, as far as I know, so I would 
suggest you use a 64 bit kernel and either a 32 bit or 64 bit userspace.

If the two userspaces are installed both as boot options and as chroots, 
you can very quickly compare them in performance terms every time you 
make a non-trivial change in the application architecture.  If you keep 
the data and logic stored in an architecture neutral repository that is 
on a separate filesystem tree from the rest of the system binaries, you 
can switch between 32 bit and 64 bit production environment in seconds 
by stopping services in one chroot and starting them in the other.

If you're building a server grade SMP machine with a lot of memory, I 
think you'll see big advantages of having the RAM distributed across the 
hypertransport links and enabling processes to use large address spaces. 
 Therefore, I suspect you'll end up in 64 bit mode and liking it a lot.
However, the point is that you can defer the decision to deployment.

Oliver Korpilla wrote:
My tip would be: CHOOSE YOUR BOARD WISELY!!! Go for a well-supported board
and everything will be A-OK. (If in doubt, ask on the list)
With recent chipsets, the marketing materials often describe server 
grade features that are worth paying money for but neglect to mention 
that some of these are implemented in software rather than hardware.

It is disappointing to buy, for example, a RAID capable motherboard and 
then find out that it is actually a non-RAID motherboard with a 
different Windows software driver.  Linux supports RAID natively anyway, 
so you'd have just paid extra and not received anything you need.

Really really check with the list first, before buying, ...
Dale Scheetz wrote:
 Although I know that Debian hasn't released an official AMD64 port, I
 have seen several distros that use it (like Ubuntu) so my first guess
 is that it is mature enough for me to use on this project.
You're describing a standard server style software stack, such as has 
been running on 64 bit architectures for years, and not something that 
uses code originally written for x86 desktops and is only just porting.
Debian's AMD64 is a pure port, so I suggest it is just as reliable as 
running Debian's Sparc 64 bit support for the same source versions.
The complications happen when you try to go biarch or have 32 bit 
libraries integrated into the 64 bit system, but you don't need that.

Hope that helps,
Alex.

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Re: Help choosing hardware

2005-04-08 Thread Jacob Bresciani
On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 22:36 +0200, Oliver Korpilla wrote:
  On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 03:02:57PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
  Of course anything with more than one cpu isn't cheap (although compared
  to a sun sparc system they probably are cheap).  An athlon 64 system is
  cheap, but an opteron system is quite a bit more, although nowhere near
  what a xeon system costs.
 
 I wouldn't necessarily say that, as I was able to specify a reasonable
 dual-processor workstation for what my current computer cost including the
 monitor. HP offers dual-proc workstations starting 1900 $, and I was able to
 specify one self-built for about 1500 Euro.
 
  Well certainly the amd64 debian-pure64 sarge runs great for me, and
  certainly many other people.  I imagine there are some programs that
  don't work yet, but the 32bit chroot works perfectly too for running the
  occational i386 binary so it is rather flexible that way.
 
 You have even several other OS choices. You could use Debian, Gentoo, Fedora
 or SuSE Linux, or you could use FreeBSD for x86-64 (worked like a charm for
 me), and next month there is said to be Windows support as well (though a
 pal of mine says his release candidate is unable to run a 32-Bit app without
 crashing it ;) ). So you basically run no risc here!!!
 
   I am looking for feedback from this group, letting me know if I'm on
   the right track, or if there are reasons that I should go with the
   Xeon instead.
  
  I certainly would not buy anything based on the Pentium4 design
  personally given what the Opteron is capable off.
 
 Think power dissipation and heat. A P4-based processor has a much higher
 power consumption than an Opteron, requiring bigger fans, coolers, more
 system fans, overheats more easily and is more prone to failure. It is
 simply more reliable in the long run. (Does AMD pay me for this - they
 should!)
 
  
   All suggestions appreciated. I am not subscribed to this list, so
   please CC me in your reply.
  
  If nothing else an opteron runs the i386 version of debian faster
  thananything else, and if you need 64bit support, it can do that too (I
  believe sarge does have amd64-libs and an amd64 kernel that can be used
  on i386 sarge to run 64bit programs when there is a need for 64bit).
 
 My tip would be: CHOOSE YOUR BOARD WISELY!!! Go for a well-supported board
 and everything will be A-OK. (If in doubt, ask on the list)
 
 With kind regards,
 Oliver
 
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I'll counter the HP recommendation with Sun, their V20z (up to 2way) and
V40z (up to 4 way) line are very nice machines are very reasonable
prices, about 6K Canadian for 2 250 opteron's 2Gig of Ram and a pair of
36G SCSI drives. Plus the dual GigE and Sun's wonderful ALOM (Advanced
Lights out Monitoring) support. All this and a 1U form factor too (at
least in the V20z, the V40z is 3 or 4U I think).


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Re: Help choosing hardware

2005-04-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 02:23:58PM -0700, Jacob Bresciani wrote:
 I'll counter the HP recommendation with Sun, their V20z (up to 2way) and
 V40z (up to 4 way) line are very nice machines are very reasonable
 prices, about 6K Canadian for 2 250 opteron's 2Gig of Ram and a pair of
 36G SCSI drives. Plus the dual GigE and Sun's wonderful ALOM (Advanced
 Lights out Monitoring) support. All this and a 1U form factor too (at
 least in the V20z, the V40z is 3 or 4U I think).

People still buy scsi?  Why?  I can't find any good reason for scsi
anymore (unless running 15 drives on a single port is really that
important).  I guess external connections I could see, but there are
other ways to get access to external disk space too.

SATA makes more sense to me pricewise and can even be hotplugged (on
some controllers just like scsi).

SAS looks really neat, but I suspect it may be way to expensive too.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Help choosing hardware

2005-04-08 Thread Jacob Bresciani
On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 17:25 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 02:23:58PM -0700, Jacob Bresciani wrote:
  I'll counter the HP recommendation with Sun, their V20z (up to 2way) and
  V40z (up to 4 way) line are very nice machines are very reasonable
  prices, about 6K Canadian for 2 250 opteron's 2Gig of Ram and a pair of
  36G SCSI drives. Plus the dual GigE and Sun's wonderful ALOM (Advanced
  Lights out Monitoring) support. All this and a 1U form factor too (at
  least in the V20z, the V40z is 3 or 4U I think).
 
 People still buy scsi?  Why?  I can't find any good reason for scsi
 anymore (unless running 15 drives on a single port is really that
 important).  I guess external connections I could see, but there are
 other ways to get access to external disk space too.
 
 SATA makes more sense to me pricewise and can even be hotplugged (on
 some controllers just like scsi).
 
 SAS looks really neat, but I suspect it may be way to expensive too.
 
 Len Sorensen
 
Cause it's hard to find a tier one vendor that sells SATA.

also it depends what your doing, SCSI is still faster in some
applications but SATA is closing that gap quickly. Digging into some
stats the WD Raptor 10K SATA drives look very tasty.

SATA vs SCSI - Single Drive vs Single Drive
http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage/20030501/index.html

SCSI vs SATA - RAID configurations and applications.
http://www.tweakers.net/reviews/557/29


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need advice for correct sources.list because of broken packages

2005-04-08 Thread Alexander Nagel
Hi list
i use the following sources.list:
cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-pure64 sarge main 
contrib non-free

and i try to install
apt-get install libgtk2-dev
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
E: Konnte Paket libgtk2-dev nicht finden
redkeep:/home/alex# apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
Einige Pakete konnten nicht installiert werden. Das kann bedeuten, dass
Sie eine unmögliche Situation angefordert haben oder dass, wenn Sie die
instabile Distribution verwenden, einige erforderliche Pakete noch nicht
kreiert oder aus Incoming herausbewegt wurden.
Da Sie nur eine einzige Operation angefordert haben ist es sehr 
wahrscheinlich,
dass das Paket einfach nicht installierbar ist und eine Fehlermeldung über
dieses Paket erfolgen sollte.
Die folgenden Informationen helfen Ihnen vielleicht, die Situation zu lösen:

Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
  libgtk2.0-dev: Hängt ab: libpango1.0-dev (= 1.4.0-3) soll aber nicht 
installiert werden
 Hängt ab: libx11-dev soll aber nicht installiert 
werden oder
   xlibs-dev soll aber nicht installiert werden
E: Kaputte Pakete

which means the package is broken.
When i use
deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64 sarge main contrib non-free
redkeep:/home/alex# apt-get install -V libgtk2.0-dev
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
   libatk1.0-dev (1.8.0-4)
   libexpat1-dev (1.95.8-1)
   libfontconfig1-dev (2.3.1-2)
   libfreetype6-dev (2.1.7-2.3)
   libglib2.0-0 (2.6.4-1)
   libglib2.0-dev (2.6.4-1)
   libgtk2.0-0 (2.6.4-1)
   libgtk2.0-bin (2.6.4-1)
   libgtk2.0-common (2.6.4-1)
   libpango1.0-dev (1.8.1-1)
   libx11-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
   libxext-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
   libxft-dev (2.1.7-1)
   libxft2 (2.1.7-1)
   libxi-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
   libxrender-dev (0.8.3-7)
   libxv-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
   render-dev (0.8-4)
   x-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
   xlibs-static-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
   zlib1g-dev (1.2.2-4)
Vorgeschlagene Pakete:
   xspecs (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
Empfohlene Pakete:
   libglib2.0-data (2.6.4-1)
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
   libatk1.0-dev (1.8.0-4)
   libexpat1-dev (1.95.8-1)
   libfontconfig1-dev (2.3.1-2)
   libfreetype6-dev (2.1.7-2.3)
   libglib2.0-dev (2.6.4-1)
   libgtk2.0-dev (2.6.4-1)
   libpango1.0-dev (1.8.1-1)
   libx11-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
   libxext-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
   libxft-dev (2.1.7-1)
   libxi-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
   libxrender-dev (0.8.3-7)
   libxv-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
   render-dev (0.8-4)
   x-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
   xlibs-static-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
   zlib1g-dev (1.2.2-4)
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert:
   libglib2.0-0 (2.6.3-1 = 2.6.4-1)
   libgtk2.0-0 (2.6.2-4 = 2.6.4-1)
   libgtk2.0-bin (2.6.2-4 = 2.6.4-1)
   libgtk2.0-common (2.6.2-4 = 2.6.4-1)
   libxft2 (2.1.2-6 = 2.1.7-1)
5 aktualisiert, 17 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 141 nicht 
aktualisiert.
Es müssen 19,4MB Archive geholt werden.
Nach dem Auspacken werden 66,2MB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n]

it seems to work but with lot's of new packages.
Why are there so much differences??
Two different sarge or is the second sid??
Thanks for any help.
Alex
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Re: Epiphany crashes on pure64

2005-04-08 Thread Javier Kohen
I just found out that mozilla-browser-1.7.6 in pure64 is compiled
against libstdc++-6 while epiphany is compiled against version 5.
Actually, none other package in my system seems to be using libstdc++-6,
neither does mozilla-browser for all the other official architectures.

In the case that there were a valid reason to compile mozilla with
version 5, would it be possible to have Epiphany (and
Epiphany-Extensions) compiled against that version as well? I think that
might solve the problems we're experiencing.

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Re: need advice for correct sources.list because of broken packages

2005-04-08 Thread Javier Kohen
Hallo Alex,

El sb, 09-04-2005 a las 01:39 +0200, Alexander Nagel escribi:

 When i use
 deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64 sarge main contrib non-free
 
 redkeep:/home/alex# apt-get install -V libgtk2.0-dev
 Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
 Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
 Die folgenden zustzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
 libatk1.0-dev (1.8.0-4)
 libexpat1-dev (1.95.8-1)
 libfontconfig1-dev (2.3.1-2)
 libfreetype6-dev (2.1.7-2.3)
 libglib2.0-0 (2.6.4-1)
 libglib2.0-dev (2.6.4-1)
 libgtk2.0-0 (2.6.4-1)
 libgtk2.0-bin (2.6.4-1)
 libgtk2.0-common (2.6.4-1)
 libpango1.0-dev (1.8.1-1)
 libx11-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 libxext-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 libxft-dev (2.1.7-1)
 libxft2 (2.1.7-1)
 libxi-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 libxrender-dev (0.8.3-7)
 libxv-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 render-dev (0.8-4)
 x-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 xlibs-static-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 zlib1g-dev (1.2.2-4)
 Vorgeschlagene Pakete:
 xspecs (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 Empfohlene Pakete:
 libglib2.0-data (2.6.4-1)
 Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
 libatk1.0-dev (1.8.0-4)
 libexpat1-dev (1.95.8-1)
 libfontconfig1-dev (2.3.1-2)
 libfreetype6-dev (2.1.7-2.3)
 libglib2.0-dev (2.6.4-1)
 libgtk2.0-dev (2.6.4-1)
 libpango1.0-dev (1.8.1-1)
 libx11-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 libxext-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 libxft-dev (2.1.7-1)
 libxi-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 libxrender-dev (0.8.3-7)
 libxv-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 render-dev (0.8-4)
 x-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 xlibs-static-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-12)
 zlib1g-dev (1.2.2-4)
 Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert:
 libglib2.0-0 (2.6.3-1 = 2.6.4-1)
 libgtk2.0-0 (2.6.2-4 = 2.6.4-1)
 libgtk2.0-bin (2.6.2-4 = 2.6.4-1)
 libgtk2.0-common (2.6.2-4 = 2.6.4-1)
 libxft2 (2.1.2-6 = 2.1.7-1)
 5 aktualisiert, 17 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 141 nicht 
 aktualisiert.
 Es mssen 19,4MB Archive geholt werden.
 Nach dem Auspacken werden 66,2MB Plattenplatz zustzlich benutzt.
 Mchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n]
 
 
 it seems to work but with lot's of new packages.
 Why are there so much differences??
 Two different sarge or is the second sid??

Sorry that I cannot advice you about the first part of the mail, with
the missing packages, but the second part is alright. What's going on
there is that you're trying to install a development package that
depends on X, therefore it brings all the X development packages as
well, and that means dozens of packages.

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Crashes in gnomemeeting

2005-04-08 Thread Javier Kohen
If I open and close GNOME Meeting without placing any calls, it crashes.
This seems to be 100% reproducible on pure64 on my computer. Anybody
else sees the same or a different behavior?

Should I open reports on the Debian BTS for pure64 non-packaging bugs?

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