Re: No sound with Kernel 2.6.11
Hi Dirk, I've tried to install Kernel 2.6.11-9-amd64-k8 from unstable in my AMD64-Sarge. The kernel works, but with it I have no more sound in KDE:-( Beep in terminal is available, but in KDE I hear nothing. With my old kernel (2.6.10-9-amd64-k8) all worked fine. Sound modules loaded? Can you hear something with following command: cat /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav /dev/audio If yes, its a KDE problem. If no, even the Kernel module does not work. Greetings, Tobias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA install - AMD64 - success story
Hi Joe, don't wanna bother you, BUT: I've really no idea where people get all their SATA issues from, it's not had issues for me since Woody 3.0r2 was current. SATA is NOT running very well ! I'm running this AMD64 Debian since about 6 (or more) months on different AMD64 MoBos and I'm really no newbe. I've some non-working SATA (devices) too, but it doesn't matter me really. However whenever I see a new version, module, trick, tip or whatever I check it if it's working now. In my point of view (and this isn't based on much know how in this issue), all my SATA problems are coming whenever there's NForce 3 stuff on the Board. However, what I wanna say is: If I'm not able to wait 6 more months I'll buy me a new MoBo, but others don't like to go that way of problem solution. They really have problems with SATA, they really miss their devices ! Cya JEBs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA install - AMD64 - success story
Jörg Ebeling wrote: Hi Joe, don't wanna bother you, BUT: I've really no idea where people get all their SATA issues from, it's not had issues for me since Woody 3.0r2 was current. SATA is NOT running very well ! I'm running this AMD64 Debian since about 6 (or more) months on different AMD64 MoBos and I'm really no newbe. I've some non-working SATA (devices) too, but it doesn't matter me really. However whenever I see a new version, module, trick, tip or whatever I check it if it's working now. In my point of view (and this isn't based on much know how in this issue), all my SATA problems are coming whenever there's NForce 3 stuff on the Board. However, what I wanna say is: If I'm not able to wait 6 more months I'll buy me a new MoBo, but others don't like to go that way of problem solution. They really have problems with SATA, they really miss their devices ! Cya JEBs This office system has been running AMD64 Debian since March, running all the while from a Silicon Image SATA controller (:02:0d.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3512 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 01)) on a Gigabyte nForce3 board - I had an identical system beforehand for a few more months. My home system has been running AMD64 Debian since I got it a few months ago, which uses a Via K8T890's onboard SATA support. I really haven't had SATA difficulties since I tried a 2.6.0-test3 kernel with a Promise 20376 controller. I'm not trying to be contrary, I simply haven't ever experienced issues that people report with similar hardware, which confuses me greatly. --Jo Shields -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Mark Nipper wrote: On 20 Jul 2005, Justin Grindal wrote: Quick question - I've been trying to download the DVD .ISO's from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-dvd/ and, instead of getting the 4.0 and 3.4 GB ISO's, mine only wind up being an even 2GB. Obviously, when they're done, the md5sum's don't line up, and the images don't work. I tried downloading them using my WinXP box (first try was on FC3 box) and I only read them as 387 meg downloads. Any advice on how I can get the whole ISO? I'm surprised cdimage.debian.org is even serving those files properly. I didn't think Apache (2.1 anyway) would serve out large files. At least my experience with 2.0.x would suggest otherwise. It is a simple edit to the debian/rules file to fix the compile option for LFS in the source package, then just rebuild. The same goes for 1.3 really, but I'm not sure it is a quite as obvious edit to debian/rules. I'm running a 32-bit OS on it, which actually proved more stable because the LFS support on 64-bit apache seemed buggy (I was too stressed out with the release to properly investigate and submit a bug though). That's the reason why the http offloaders for the i386 stuff ran apache 1.3, not 2.0. /Mattias Wadenstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD 64 Stability on Asus A8v Deluxe
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Erik Mouw wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:32:33PM -0700, Juan Ortega wrote: Why dont you simply use memtest86? Because memtest86 doesn't catch all memory errors, while a kernel compile stresses the system in ways memtest86 doesn't. Some memory errors only happen when there is IO going on at the same time, which is exactly what a kernel compile does. For more information, see the sig11 FAQ at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ . Well, to be fair to memtest86+, we have so far only found one repeatable crash situation that we could pinpoint to faulty RAM that memtest86+ didn't find, and in that case it could just be a case of not running it for long enough (I had a service technician on site on other duty anyway). This under a couple of dozen finds of faulty RAM. But if it is memory controller timings etc, they are much harder to find or trigger than pure bit errors. One good other test to run is bonnie -f, because then all available ram will be used up as disk cache, at the same time as you have IO load. /Mattias Wadenstein - with 1.5TB of ram, you learn to find errors.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA install - AMD64 - success story
Jo Shields wrote: Jörg Ebeling wrote: Hi Joe, don't wanna bother you, BUT: I've really no idea where people get all their SATA issues from, it's not had issues for me since Woody 3.0r2 was current. SATA is NOT running very well ! I'm running this AMD64 Debian since about 6 (or more) months on different AMD64 MoBos and I'm really no newbe. I've some non-working SATA (devices) too, but it doesn't matter me really. However whenever I see a new version, module, trick, tip or whatever I check it if it's working now. In my point of view (and this isn't based on much know how in this issue), all my SATA problems are coming whenever there's NForce 3 stuff on the Board. However, what I wanna say is: If I'm not able to wait 6 more months I'll buy me a new MoBo, but others don't like to go that way of problem solution. They really have problems with SATA, they really miss their devices ! Cya JEBs This office system has been running AMD64 Debian since March, running all the while from a Silicon Image SATA controller (:02:0d.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3512 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 01)) on a Gigabyte nForce3 board - I had an identical system beforehand for a few more months. My home system has been running AMD64 Debian since I got it a few months ago, which uses a Via K8T890's onboard SATA support. I really haven't had SATA difficulties since I tried a 2.6.0-test3 kernel with a Promise 20376 controller. I'm not trying to be contrary, I simply haven't ever experienced issues that people report with similar hardware, which confuses me greatly. --Jo Shields There is a problem with Seagate hard drives: http://home-tj.org/m15w/ It's basically because of faulty SATA implementation of the affected seagate hard drives combined with standard-compliant but peculiar behavior of silicon image controllers. I ended up buying a Samsung hdd instead -- works great. Blessings, Nigel -- It's not a problem -- it's a learning opportunity. -- I AM Bible Studies and Resources http://www.i-amfaithweb.net Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net
Re: mkinitrd, udev, LVM and 2.6.13
On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 04:29:20PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: I tried to boot 2.6.13-rc3 yesterday only to realize that devfs was removed from OPTIONS. The solution is to use udev. However, I need an initrd to since the box I used is full LVM (but the /boot partition). mkinitrd does not takes care of the udev usage (or in a way I can't figure). Is there any dev done in mkinitrd to use the udev ? I had a look at the feudora but they are using nash which is really speciallized in this tasks and unavailable for debian. Is there any workdaround to boot with lvm but without devfs ? Maybe you can try to use yaird to build your initrd? I tried to boot with the yaird utility. I can't have it to run. by looking at the generated initrd, I was surprised that no linuxrc existed, only a /init. Booting the initrd ended up to : mount inird ok no root found, insert a floppy and hit enter So, /init does not seems to be executed. I'll have a closer look this evenning. Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD 64 Stability on Asus A8v Deluxe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25.07.2005 13:30:20, Mattias Wadenstein a écrit : On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Erik Mouw wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:32:33PM -0700, Juan Ortega wrote: Why dont you simply use memtest86? Because memtest86 doesn't catch all memory errors, while a kernel compile stresses the system in ways memtest86 doesn't. Some memory errors only happen when there is IO going on at the same time, which is exactly what a kernel compile does. For more information, see the sig11 FAQ at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ . Well, to be fair to memtest86+, we have so far only found one repeatable crash situation that we could pinpoint to faulty RAM that memtest86+ didn't find, and in that case it could just be a case of not running it for long enough (I had a service technician on site on other duty anyway). To be sure of the reliability of the test a long run is mandatory. 10 to 15 hours. It is a bit (!) crazy to have so many memory cells without any real check of the consistancy of the data. And surprisingly, most of the time, it works... This under a couple of dozen finds of faulty RAM. But if it is memory controller timings etc, they are much harder to find or trigger than pure bit errors. And don't forget that the memory management is part of the Athlon processor. I seems that venice core have a better one. One good other test to run is bonnie -f, because then all available ram will be used up as disk cache, at the same time as you have IO load. /Mattias Wadenstein - with 1.5TB of ram, you learn to find errors.. Jean-Luc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFC5OLYXit3lz9m7V4RAtyaAJjiabNI5Yt4PBJVSzhhwR0wL8UJAJ44b4al umdtcSp+2EWoPbyjuEYcFQ== =H2jD -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mixing CPU's
On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 12:33:01AM -0400, Nathan Dragun wrote: Has anyone tried mixing the processor types of multi-cpu systems? What was the outcome? I have two opteron 244's in my machine. One is stepping 8, the other is 10. 10 supports powernow and is 90nm. Works fine. Matching clockrates is essential. Even if the bios supported mismatched clocks, the kernel assumes all cpu's are the same speed. I don't know if one dual-core and one single core can be used together. I've been wondering that myself. Some kernel things make be tuned (or even assume) the number of cpu's is a power of 2, or at least divisible by 2. Though, the cpu hot plug project should have removed any of those assumptions. -- Tom Vier [EMAIL PROTECTED] DSA Key ID 0x15741ECE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: amd64 sarge installation cds with 2.6.12
On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 05:05:13PM -0400, Faheem Mitha wrote: How about just for normal, default, basic use of the system? All I know about udev is that it manages device nodes, but does it do so by default in the 2.6 Debian stock kernels, or do you need to enable it? Well none of my systems have udeb installed it would seem, and they are doing just fine as far as I am concerned. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding tg3 into a 2.6.12 kernel
On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 10:14:07AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Peter Yorke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Johan Groth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] When I installed linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8-smp, it was already there Have we got a d-i that works w/ this image? I'd really like to get my hands on one if we do... :) I just finished building one. Now I just have to test it (minimally at least). Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding tg3 into a 2.6.12 kernel
* Lennart Sorensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 10:14:07AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Peter Yorke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Johan Groth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] When I installed linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8-smp, it was already there Have we got a d-i that works w/ this image? I'd really like to get my hands on one if we do... :) I just finished building one. Now I just have to test it (minimally at least). Great! If it works can you post it somewhere? :) Thanks, Stephen signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: best distro 4 AMD 64
--- Jaime Ochoa Malagón [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Fernando, You can expect almost the same from debian-amd64 distribution as used to be in the traditional (x86) debian distribution... The usual misses (filled with 32 bits apps... ) are: flash in firefox openoffice - Fernando, La distribución es basicamente igual así que puedes confiar en ella como en la distribución tradicional de debian (x86) Las aplicaciones que podrías extrañar son: flash en firefox openoffice pero puedes correrlas a 32 bits sin problemas... On 7/22/05, fernando tear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello list: I know debian is the best distro, it's why i want install it in my machine... I just want to know your experiences and knowledge about this issue that i am sure it'll help me very mutch... greetings FERNANDO __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Engañarse por amor es el engaño más terrible; es una pérdida eterna para la que no hay compensación ni en el tiempo ni en la eternidad. Kierkegaard Jaime Ochoa Malagón Integrated Technology Tel: (55) 52 54 26 10 __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get SATA support in Debian
On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 11:52:47AM +0530, Chetan Thapliyal wrote: I have Silicon 3112 SATA controller on my board which is not detecting while installation. I guess it has no support in Debian. Can anybody suggest me the way to install Debian on it? I am using the latest iso image (debian-31r0a-amd64-binary-1.iso) downloaded from debian.org. With warm regards I have been using an SATA Sil3112A for over a year now, and it has always detected fine (raid crap disabled of course). Worked with both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels in the sarge installer without a problem. I expect if you enabled the proprietary raid support, then it won't detect it and won't work. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Segate and Silicon 3112
On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 05:06:57PM +0530, Chetan Thapliyal wrote: Anybody using Debian amd64 with Segate HDD and Silicon 3112 SATA controller? If yes, then please assist me. Can I do this without recompiling the kernel. Presently I don't have any linux installation on my machine. Any sort of help will be highly appreciated. Sorry, I use WD drives with my Sil3112, which works fine. I won't touch seagate disks at the moment, especially given what I read from the linux ide guy. It seemed that in his opinion the first seagate sata drives had bugs in the sata implementation that were bad enough that they should never have released it. Not sure if they have gotten it right since, but it didn't make me want to run out and buy one. Does it detect the drives at all? Do you have bios software raid disabled (like you should normally)? Does it detect the controller? Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA install - AMD64 - success story
On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 03:14:19PM -0700, Jeff Breidenbach wrote: Success report. Hitachi 7k500 SATA hard drive Intel Pentium D 820 CPU ASUS P5WD2 Premium Edition motherboard I found that Ubuntu can install to the SATA drive but Debian Sarge cannot. I've used all sorts of remastered installers, including a 2.6.11 AMD64 version. The problem was not detecting the disk, and was eventually solved by manually finding and doing an insmod on the ata_piix module (on the 2.6.11 remastered installer). Hope this is helpful. Could you check what mode your sata controller is in, in the bios? On my ICH5R board I had to put it in the native/enhanced mode rather than the default combined mode for it to work. It does work way better in native mode anyhow, except if you want to install windows you will need a floppy to load the native sata driver since it won't be emulating an old ide controller at all. Due to this, many boards ship with the emulation mode enabled (and Dell won't even give you an option to turn that crap off). Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA install - AMD64 - success story
On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 04:49:33PM -0700, Jeff Breidenbach wrote: I still don't know how to make Debian see the disk in AHCI mode, which is required for Native Command Queuing (NCQ). I think if Lenart Sorensen remasters an AMD64 installer with a 2.6.12 kernal *and* compiles the AHCI module (it's under drivers/scsi) then I'll know what to do.[1] Oh now you tell me. Off to rebuild again. It is enabled in the kernel, bit I didn't add it to the list of modules to include... I just did now. My understanding - which may be wrong - is that even though the module is part of the stock 2.6.12 sid kernel, it has to be also inside initrd for things to boot properly. Getting the AHCI module into initrd without the module being present in the installer is beyond my skill level. [2] That's part of the mess I am going through trying to update the install cd iamge. I'm a different 'you' but for reference here's the entire output of lspci, at least when I've told my BIOS to run SATA in compatibility mode. Don't know if things change when running in AHCI mode. [3] I expect my hardware is a little bit on the new side at the moment, but will become increasingly common. I should have the cd image ready in probably about 30 minutes. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mixing CPU's
On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 12:01:27PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: I had a MSI K8D Master3 (380 Euro, Two Opteron 240) which drived me crazy and I have tried to run one of those CPU's on a Singel-Opteron mainboard from Tyan and it does not work. Then I have bought two Tyan Dual-Opteron Boards andused it with only one CPU each, which works very fine. Then I have tried to run a Opteron 142 on a Dual-CPU-Board and it does not work. So you NEED the right CPU to your Mainboard. You can not use a 1xx on a Mainboard which was made for a 2xx. I wonder if that is for technical reasons, or just lack of cpu support in the bioses. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA install - AMD64 - success story
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 10:20:43AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Oh now you tell me. Off to rebuild again. It is enabled in the kernel, bit I didn't add it to the list of modules to include... I just did now. That's part of the mess I am going through trying to update the install cd iamge. I should have the cd image ready in probably about 30 minutes. New image is now online. http://www.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/amd64/ Someone let me know if it works. What I would like to know is: Does it work at all (I tested it up to partitioning disks on SATA WDs on VIA controller). Does it support AHCI. Does it support I2O (not dpt of course, since it doesn't use I2O drivers). Does it work with Marvell Yukon PCIe chips? I know the onboard PCI chip I have works, but many reports have shown 2.6.8 does not work with PCIe versions of the chip. Perhaps 2.6.12 fixes that too. If any drivers are missing that you think should be included, let me know and I will see if I can put those in too. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding tg3 into a 2.6.12 kernel
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 10:05:27AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: Great! If it works can you post it somewhere? :) Just posted. See message I posted a couple of minutes ago in a different thread. I hope it works. Initial testing looks pretty good. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: amd64 sarge installation cds with 2.6.12
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:27:57PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote: It was accepted into unstable today, should be autobuilt tonight, and become available tomorrow during the day as mirrors sync. New unofficial image is now online. http://www.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/amd64/ Someone let me know if it works. What I would like to know is: Does it work at all (I tested it up to partitioning disks on SATA WDs on VIA controller). Does it support AHCI. Does it support I2O (not dpt of course, since it doesn't use I2O drivers). Does it work with Marvell Yukon PCIe chips? I know the onboard PCI chip I have works, but many reports have shown 2.6.8 does not work with PCIe versions of the chip. Perhaps 2.6.12 fixes that too. If any drivers are missing that you think should be included, let me know and I will see if I can put those in too. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Segate and Silicon 3112
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 10:11:30AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Sorry, I use WD drives with my Sil3112, which works fine. I won't touch seagate disks at the moment, especially given what I read from the linux The newer ones are fine. I have two ST3300831AS and they work great. -- Tom Vier [EMAIL PROTECTED] DSA Key ID 0x15741ECE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Segate and Silicon 3112
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 12:11:34PM -0400, Tom Vier wrote: The newer ones are fine. I have two ST3300831AS and they work great. Good to know it was fixed eventually. Certainly the message I just saw a link to today seems to show there was a real problem: http://home-tj.org/m15w/ Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA install - AMD64 - success story
Lennart Sorensen wrote: I think if Lenart Sorensen remasters an AMD64 installer with a 2.6.12 kernal *and* compiles the AHCI module (it's under drivers/scsi) then I'll know what to do.[1] Oh now you tell me. Off to rebuild again. It is enabled in the kernel, bit I didn't add it to the list of modules to include... I just did now. ahci has been included in sata-modules by kernel-wedge if it's available since May of this year, and is in the standard installer images using 2.6.11 and the not-yet-uploaded ones using 2.6.12. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Please participate in popularity-contest
On (25/07/05 12:13), Joey Hess wrote: Adeodato Simó wrote: Or even better, make sure d-i installs anacron for desktop systems. That could be the case already, I'm not sure. CC'ing debian-boot to hear something from them. It doesn't do so currently. It does for laptops though, so not too big a leap I suppose. Prompted by this thread, I went to install popcon and it doesn't seem to be available for amd64; is this right? I could run it in the 32bit chroot but presumably, it wouldn't pick up the 64bit packages? Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Re: Please participate in popularity-contest
- Forwarded message from Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To: debian-boot@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org From: Clive Menzies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:55:49 +0100 Subject: Re: Please participate in popularity-contest On (25/07/05 12:13), Joey Hess wrote: Adeodato Simó wrote: Or even better, make sure d-i installs anacron for desktop systems. That could be the case already, I'm not sure. CC'ing debian-boot to hear something from them. It doesn't do so currently. It does for laptops though, so not too big a leap I suppose. Prompted by this thread, I went to install popcon and it doesn't seem to be available for amd64; is this right? I could run it in the 32bit chroot but presumably, it wouldn't pick up the 64bit packages? - End forwarded message - D'Oh! popcon is the virtual package; popularity-contest IS installed. Sorry for the noise Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: amd64 sarge installation cds with 2.6.12
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 01:50:18PM -0400, Faheem Mitha wrote: Great! It would be super nice, as I said earlier, if you could ship the sources for the CD so I could make tweaks. If that is impracticable, please don't worry about it. I am trying to script the steps, but I am still trying to figure out debian-cd to see if that really makes it simpler. Thanks for your efforts. We've ordered two machines, one with dual Opterons, the other with dual dual-core Operons (over objections on my part). Your CD will be one of the first things I'll try with the dual-core machine, and I'll report back to these lists, since info about dual-cores on Debian seems a bit scarce. Would be fun to know the result. Apparently the testing install cd images have newer kernels, but having not looked at them in a few months I don't know if they allow installing stable amd64 or only testing/unstable. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please participate in popularity-contest
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 06:55:49PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: On (25/07/05 12:13), Joey Hess wrote: Adeodato Simó wrote: Or even better, make sure d-i installs anacron for desktop systems. That could be the case already, I'm not sure. CC'ing debian-boot to hear something from them. It doesn't do so currently. It does for laptops though, so not too big a leap I suppose. Prompted by this thread, I went to install popcon and it doesn't seem to be available for amd64; is this right? I could run it in the 32bit chroot but presumably, it wouldn't pick up the 64bit packages? apt-get install popcon Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Note, selecting popularity-contest instead of popcon Works perfectly here, always has. And it's an arch all package anyway. Kurt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: amd64 sarge installation cds with 2.6.12
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:27:57PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote: It was accepted into unstable today, should be autobuilt tonight, and become available tomorrow during the day as mirrors sync. New unofficial image is now online. http://www.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/amd64/ [snip] Great! It would be super nice, as I said earlier, if you could ship the sources for the CD so I could make tweaks. If that is impracticable, please don't worry about it. Thanks for your efforts. We've ordered two machines, one with dual Opterons, the other with dual dual-core Operons (over objections on my part). Your CD will be one of the first things I'll try with the dual-core machine, and I'll report back to these lists, since info about dual-cores on Debian seems a bit scarce. Take care. Faheem (reluctant early adopter). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze
Mark Nipper ha scritto: I'm using 7667 from experimental currently with no problems. I didn't manage to make this work: I compiled and installed it, but when I do modprobe nvidia it loads a kernel module version 7174, but X module is 7667 (???). X doesn't start that way. I'm now using 7667 from nvidia installer, but with no success with 2.6.12 kernel, as it freezes after about 30 secs since I login in KDE... -- Alessandro Dal Grande Student In The University Of Padua - Computer Science Linux Registered User #359258 System: GNU/Linux Debian Sid Pure64 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chat: Psi (ICQ)150487234 (Jabber)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Put the fan back into computing signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: amd64 sarge installation cds with 2.6.12
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 04:55:36PM -0400, Faheem Mitha wrote: It seems likely I will soon be needing a Sarge installation CD with 2.6.12. This is because I will want to install Debian (AMD64 port) at work on a machine with two of the new dual core Opteron processors. Apparently 2.6.12 supports this architecture properly, while earlier versions of the kernel do not. So, I was wondering if anyone had made (or knew of) official or unofficial Sarge AMD64 installation cds with 2.6.12? If not, I guess I'll have to try rolling my own. dual core opterons are supported by all kernels. my quad dual core works on 2.6.5 and 2.6.11 out of the box. dual core are exactly like dual cpu. the only 2.6.12 support is to show them correctly in /proc/cpuinfo as part of the same die. kernels 2.6.12 will show each core as different cpus. no big deal. -- Vincent Hanquez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 08:16:32PM +0200, v0n0 wrote: I didn't manage to make this work: I compiled and installed it, but when I do modprobe nvidia it loads a kernel module version 7174, but X module is 7667 (???). X doesn't start that way. I'm now using 7667 from nvidia installer, but with no success with 2.6.12 kernel, as it freezes after about 30 secs since I login in KDE... You did reextract and rebuild the module after installing the new nvidia-kernel-source package right? dpkg -l nvidia-kernel\* Make sure the version is the new one. And of course make sure you actually built it for the current running kernel and not a different version. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze
Lennart Sorensen ha scritto: You did reextract and rebuild the module after installing the new nvidia-kernel-source package right? dpkg -l nvidia-kernel\* Make sure the version is the new one. I'm pretty sure of this, before launching debian/rules binary_modules I checked in nvidia-kernel dir to see which version was it, and inside a script I read 7667! And of course make sure you actually built it for the current running kernel and not a different version. Sure of this, since name of the new deb was taken even from uname -r. However, thanks for help! -- Alessandro Dal Grande Student In The University Of Padua - Computer Science Linux Registered User #359258 System: GNU/Linux Debian Sid Pure64 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chat: Psi (ICQ)150487234 (Jabber)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Put the fan back into computing signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 08:31:21PM +0200, v0n0 wrote: Sure of this, since name of the new deb was taken even from uname -r. However, thanks for help! Oh remember to stop X, modprobe -r nvidia, modprobe nvidia, start X Otherwise you will still have the old module loaded (well unless you rebooted that is). Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question about libraries : c2
Hello, Yesterday, i'd like to install soma packages, and i realise that some libraries gets the suffix c2, such as libflac++4. What does that means ? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about libraries : c2
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 08:44:15PM +0200, Sylvain Archenault wrote: Yesterday, i'd like to install soma packages, and i realise that some libraries gets the suffix c2, such as libflac++4. What does that means ? It means that it uses the ABI of g++ 4.0 which is version 2. Similar to how some have c102 appended which was 1.02 or 1.0.2 or something like that. All parts of a C++ program have to use the same ABI when linking, so the libs and the compiler must all agree. By having the abi in the name you can have multiple ABI versions of one library installed at the same time. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about libraries : c2
El lun, 25-07-2005 a las 20:44 +0200, Sylvain Archenault escribió: Hello, Yesterday, i'd like to install soma packages, and i realise that some libraries gets the suffix c2, such as libflac++4. What does that means ? That they use the GCC 4.0 C++ ABI. As Debian is transitioning to this compiler, all C++ libraries must be recompiled with it and uploaded with a non-clashing name. Greetings, -- Javier Kohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: blashyrkh #2361802 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze
Lennart Sorensen ha scritto: Oh remember to stop X, modprobe -r nvidia, modprobe nvidia, start X Otherwise you will still have the old module loaded (well unless you rebooted that is). I did this, I was in init 2! However, 7667 doesn't fix my problem with X...I hope Nvidia is working on this... -- Alessandro Dal Grande Student In The University Of Padua - Computer Science Linux Registered User #359258 System: GNU/Linux Debian Sid Pure64 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chat: Psi (ICQ)150487234 (Jabber)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Put the fan back into computing signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Question about libraries : c2
Ok thanks for your precision !!! I don't know what abi is, I will google it. Javier Kohen wrote: El lun, 25-07-2005 a las 20:44 +0200, Sylvain Archenault escribió: Hello, Yesterday, i'd like to install soma packages, and i realise that some libraries gets the suffix c2, such as libflac++4. What does that means ? That they use the GCC 4.0 C++ ABI. As Debian is transitioning to this compiler, all C++ libraries must be recompiled with it and uploaded with a non-clashing name. Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No sound with Kernel 2.6.11
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 09:16:06AM +0200, Tobias Krais wrote: I've tried to install Kernel 2.6.11-9-amd64-k8 from unstable in my AMD64-Sarge. The kernel works, but with it I have no more sound in KDE:-( Beep in terminal is available, but in KDE I hear nothing. With my old kernel (2.6.10-9-amd64-k8) all worked fine. Sound modules loaded? Can you hear something with following command: cat /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav /dev/audio If yes, its a KDE problem. If no, even the Kernel module does not work. This works wrong (sound too fast), but it works wrong with 2.6.10 _and_ 2.6.11, so the problem is KDE. Modules are the same loaded under both kernels. And now? ciao, Dirk -- | Akkuschrauber Kaufberatung and AEG GSM stuff | | Visit my homepage: http://www.nutrimatic.ping.de/ | | FIDO: Dirk Salva 2:244/6305.10 Internet: dsalvaATgmx.de | |The Ruhrgebiet, best place to live in Germany! | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about libraries : c2
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 09:03:28PM +0200, Sylvain Archenault wrote: Ok thanks for your precision !!! I don't know what abi is, I will google it. Application Binary Interface Like API, except at the binary level rather than source code level. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No sound with Kernel 2.6.11
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 08:42:12PM +0200, Dirk Salva wrote: This works wrong (sound too fast), but it works wrong with 2.6.10 _and_ 2.6.11, so the problem is KDE. Modules are the same loaded under both kernels. Doing cat doesn't control playback speed, so given the kde wav's are not meant to be played faster than their expected speed it would sound wrong. It does mean sound drivers are working. Using aplay on the kde wave would probably sound right. Which sound card and which drivers? Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about libraries : c2
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 02:50:29PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: By having the abi in the name you can have multiple ABI versions of one library installed at the same time. No you can't, if you can it's a bug and should be fixed. The problem is that the filename of the library does not change while the ABI does change. This means that the new version actually has to conflict with the old version, since you obviously can't install 2 files with the same name, nor would you be able to find the correct library even if you could. Anyway, it's going to rather hard to properly get things installed in unstable while this transition is going on. If you want to be able to install packages without such problems, you should be using testing instead. Kurt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: amd64 sarge installation cds with 2.6.12
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Vincent Hanquez wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 04:55:36PM -0400, Faheem Mitha wrote: It seems likely I will soon be needing a Sarge installation CD with 2.6.12. This is because I will want to install Debian (AMD64 port) at work on a machine with two of the new dual core Opteron processors. Apparently 2.6.12 supports this architecture properly, while earlier versions of the kernel do not. So, I was wondering if anyone had made (or knew of) official or unofficial Sarge AMD64 installation cds with 2.6.12? If not, I guess I'll have to try rolling my own. dual core opterons are supported by all kernels. my quad dual core works on 2.6.5 and 2.6.11 out of the box. dual core are exactly like dual cpu. the only 2.6.12 support is to show them correctly in /proc/cpuinfo as part of the same die. kernels 2.6.12 will show each core as different cpus. no big deal. Wow. Finally someone who can give definite info! You are running AMD64 Debian Sarge, right? So, no kernel hangs or lockups with dual-core processors, then? My vendor informed me that they has problems with Fedora Core (all versions) so couldn't ship with Fedora preinstalled on the dual-core opteron machine we ordered. So we had to go with SuSE instead. Any idea what kind of problems they might have had? Faheem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about libraries : c2
Le 25.07.2005 20:50:29, Lennart Sorensen a écrit : On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 08:44:15PM +0200, Sylvain Archenault wrote: Yesterday, i'd like to install soma packages, and i realise that some libraries gets the suffix c2, such as libflac++4. What does that means ? It means that it uses the ABI of g++ 4.0 which is version 2. Similar to how some have c102 appended which was 1.02 or 1.0.2 or something like that. All parts of a C++ program have to use the same ABI when linking, so the libs and the compiler must all agree. By having the abi in the name you can have multiple ABI versions of one library installed at the same time. Probably not: the soname is the same? Len Sorensen J-L pgpyduRee6ZKF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Question about libraries : c2
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 07:33:57PM +, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: Probably not: the soname is the same? Hmm, for some reason I thought it wasn't. Yeah looks like I am wrong. No wonder the transitions are always so messy. :) Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bytekeeper.as28747.net dead?
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 09:42:23PM +0200, antongiulio05 wrote: Hi, in last week I cannot update packages list from: Yes, it's currently down because of a harddisk problem, I don't have an ETA for when it comes back up atm. Kurt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No sound with Kernel 2.6.11
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 03:09:11PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Doing cat doesn't control playback speed, so given the kde wav's are not Yes, I know. It was only a comment;-) Which sound card and which drivers? OnBoard-Sound Asus A8V DeLuxe Board. ~$: lsmod|grep snd snd_via82xx29216 3 snd_ac97_codec 80096 1 snd_via82xx snd_pcm_oss56356 0 snd_mixer_oss 19520 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm99916 5 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_page_alloc 11080 2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm gameport4928 1 snd_via82xx snd_mpu401_uart 8128 1 snd_via82xx snd_seq_oss34304 0 snd_seq_midi9472 0 snd_rawmidi26528 2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 8832 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi snd_seq54784 5 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 25032 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 9808 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd57064 15 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 11168 1 snd ciao, Dirk -- | Akkuschrauber Kaufberatung and AEG GSM stuff | | Visit my homepage: http://www.nutrimatic.ping.de/ | | FIDO: Dirk Salva 2:244/6305.10 Internet: dsalvaATgmx.de | |The Ruhrgebiet, best place to live in Germany! | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze
v0n0 wrote: Lennart Sorensen ha scritto: Oh remember to stop X, modprobe -r nvidia, modprobe nvidia, start X Otherwise you will still have the old module loaded (well unless you rebooted that is). I did this, I was in init 2! However, 7667 doesn't fix my problem with X...I hope Nvidia is working on this... Debian doesn't use a set runlevel for non-xfree86 use. g/k/s/w/xdm are all loaded in runlevel 2 if installed, by default. --Jo Shields -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze
Are you using powernowd? As for me the nvidia-driver and powernowd won't work together. After removing powernowd everthing works fine (For two days now!). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze
Jan Berndt ha scritto: Are you using powernowd? As for me the nvidia-driver and powernowd won't work together. After removing powernowd everthing works fine (For two days now!). No, I'm not using powernod. -- Alessandro Dal Grande Student In The University Of Padua - Computer Science Linux Registered User #359258 System: GNU/Linux Debian Sid Pure64 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chat: Psi (ICQ)150487234 (Jabber)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Put the fan back into computing signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze
Brian McErlean ha scritto: I've had similar freezes to this both on ubuntu and debian with x.org and nvidia drivers. The only way to break out was to ssh in from another machine and kill Xorg (which was eating 100% cpu) Taking out the Option RenderAccel true from the device section in xorg.conf solved it for me. I knew this workaround, but I don't want to lose 3d acceleration! -- Alessandro Dal Grande Student In The University Of Padua - Computer Science Linux Registered User #359258 System: GNU/Linux Debian Sid Pure64 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chat: Psi (ICQ)150487234 (Jabber)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Put the fan back into computing signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: kernel 2.6.11-2.6.12 freeze
On 25 Jul 2005, Jan Berndt wrote: Are you using powernowd? As for me the nvidia-driver and powernowd won't work together. After removing powernowd everthing works fine (For two days now!). Actually, I experienced freezes with AMD64 using any frequency scaling in the kernel. I was using cpufreqd, but even without a userland daemon and just toggling things myself via echo, I could get my system to lock up. I was testing things using 32-bit mplayer in a chroot to play a Real Audio stream. As soon as I took out all frequency scaling of my kernel, the system was rock solid. This was all done from a console without loading my nVidia module and no X running, so I can say with a decent amount of certainty that there may be problems in general with frequency scaling and AMD64 kernels. -- Mark Nippere-contacts: 4475 Carter Creek Parkway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apartment 724 http://nipsy.bitgnome.net/ Bryan, Texas, 77802-4481 AIM/Yahoo: texasnipsy ICQ: 66971617 (979)575-3193 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GG/IT d- s++:+ a- C++$ UBL$ P---+++ L+++$ !E--- W++(--) N+ o K++ w(---) O++ M V(--) PS+++(+) PE(--) Y+ PGP t+ 5 X R tv b+++@ DI+(++) D+ G e h r++ y+(**) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---begin random quote of the moment--- Zack, living in truth feels good. And it sticks in your memory. Like, it's a truism with acid heads that you can never truly remember what tripping feels like. You think you do, but every time you trip it's like waking up all over again, you recognize the head coming on and you dig that your memories of it were shadows. -- Wesley George, the last great dope wizard from Spider Robinson's Satan's Children, 1979 (appearing in _By Any Other Name_, 2001) end random quote of the moment -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA install - AMD64 - success story
Someone let me know if it works. What I would like to know is: Does it work at all (I tested it up to partitioning disks on SATA WDs on VIA controller). Tested up to partitioning stage. Does it support AHCI. Yes, if I manually run insmod on libata.ko and ahci.ko. Otherwise the disk is not found. My lspci data has been reported through regular channels and there is also a copy at http://www.jab.org/install-report Does it support I2O (not dpt of course, since it doesn't use I2O drivers). No idea. Does it work with Marvell Yukon PCIe chips? I know the onboard PCI chip I have works, but many reports have shown 2.6.8 does not work with PCIe versions of the chip. Perhaps 2.6.12 fixes that too. My network interface is identified as Yukon something - don't know if that is what you are asking for. If any drivers are missing that you think should be included, let me dmesg know and I will see if I can put those in too. My only comment is this .iso should be linked from the main AMD64 webpage - http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64 ahci has been included in sata-modules by kernel-wedge if it's available since May of this year, and is in the standard installer images using 2.6.11 and the not-yet-uploaded ones using 2.6.12. Or maybe this one should be linked instead. The only standard installer iso for Debian AMD64 I've found so far has a 2.6.8 kernel. Jeff
Re: burn cd/dvd: permission /dev/sg0 denied
antongiulio05 said on Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 06:49:54PM +0200,: I have downgraded udev version: 0.063-1 - 0.056-3 and mantained same kernel version 2.6.11-9. However problem remains again: no permissions on /dev/sg0. Have you any idea??? Had the same problem; downgraded udev, and it went away. I use /dev/hda for the sony cd/dvd writer anyway. -- Mahesh T. Pai http://paivakil.port5.com Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all of them yourself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
