Re: Apt problem

2005-08-23 Thread Grahame White
On Monday 22 August 2005 21:16, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Grahame White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  When I try to do an apt-get update it goes off and downloads the
  package lists and then comes up with the following:
 
  W: Couldn't stat source package list http://amd64.debian.net sid/main
  Packages
  (/var/lib/apt/lists/amd64.debian.net_debian_dists_sid_main_binary-amd6
 4_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
  W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
  E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
  ones used instead.
 
 
  Trying to do an update again produces the same error.
 
  anyone else seeing this, or know how to resolve the problem?
 
  Grahame

 Wait 5 minutes and retry.

That worked, thanks

Grahame


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Re: more weird apt - bzip2.

2005-08-23 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Wakefield wrote:
 I screwed things up even worse, as I copied over apt-get and dpkg
 from another install and I have a big mess now.  You are right, I
 have to fix the original problem first, but I can't fix without
 apt-get  dpkg working right, so gotta do a reinstall I think.

You may have enough working to debootstrap (or cdebootstrap) a new
system on top of the first one.  If that technique can convert a
system from one distro to another then it should be able to convert
from the same to the same but fixed distro.  Not sure that is helpful
to you though.  Just a passing though.

Bob


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Re: Bug#324445: Lingering Priority: important libopencdk4 package on AMD64 breaks installation

2005-08-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Goswin von Brederlow 

| Going by the opencdk bugreport the package was removed around August
| 1st. Plenty of time for the amd64 rene to recommend its removal. Yet
| it still remains. An ftp-master might have to intervene, that means
| Ganneff or Aba. I messaged Ganneff on irc about this and he usualy
| reads the amd64 list anyway.

I missed it when doing removals last week or so.  Fixed now.

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WLAN Inprocomm ipn2220 - endless story

2005-08-23 Thread Hans
Hello,

now I made some progress, to get wlan running on AMD64. 
First I downloaded ndiswrapper-source and ndiswrapper-utils. Compiling the 
source went fine.
Then I downloaded the IPN2220-driver for 64-bit from the acer site, I could 
now load the driver with ndiswrapper. 
Caution: The ndiswrapper loads i2220nti.sys (this is for Intel IA64), but 
i2220nta.sys is needed ! After installation and done a ndiswrapper -m ,
just change the file in /etc/ndiswrapper/neti2220/ from i2220nti.sys to 
i2220nta.sys.

So far, so well ! But still I cannot get a connection. This is, what it says:

  Installed ndis drivers:
neti2220driver present, hardware present


O.k., driver is loaded ! Good !

This is my entry in /etc/network/interfaces

iface eth1 inet dhcp
   wireless_essid mypassword
   wireless_mode Mananged
   wireless_key1 mykey
   wireless_keymode restricted
   wireless_defaultkey 1
   wireless_channel 6


This is the output, I get, when starting eth1 (same, when I change eth1 to 
wlan0)

/etc/init.d/networking restart
Setting up IP spoofing protection: rp_filter.
Reconfiguring network interfaces...ifup: interface lo already configured
Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) :
SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
Error for wireless request Set Encode (8B2A) :
SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
Error for wireless request Set Encode (8B2A) :
SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
Error for wireless request Set Encode (8B2A) :
SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
Error for wireless request Set Frequency (8B04) :
SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
Error for wireless request Set ESSID (8B1A) :
SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
Failed to bring up eth1.

Any clue ? Does this mean, the driver is not loaded, or do I have a 
configuration error ?

Best regards, 

Hans


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Re: WLAN Inprocomm ipn2220 - endless story

2005-08-23 Thread Max

Hans wrote:

This is the output, I get, when starting eth1 (same, when I change eth1 to 
wlan0)


/etc/init.d/networking restart
Setting up IP spoofing protection: rp_filter.
Reconfiguring network interfaces...ifup: interface lo already configured
Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) :
SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.


Do you have wireless-tools installed? What does iwconfig say?
Was your kernel compiled with CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS=y ?

Max


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Re: WLAN Inprocomm ipn2220 - endless story

2005-08-23 Thread Hans
Am Dienstag, 23. August 2005 11:20 schrieb Imre Kaloz:
 On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:11:19 +0200, Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is my entry in /etc/network/interfaces
 
  iface eth1 inet dhcp
 wireless_essid mypassword

 ESSID isn't a password, but a network indentifier.

 wireless_mode Mananged

 It's not Mananged, but Managed. And anyway, this is the only available
 mode with windows drivers, and it's set automatically. You can remove this
 line.

Type error in the mail, but I deleted it anyway.

 wireless_key1 mykey
 wireless_keymode restricted
 wireless_defaultkey 1

 wireless_key $wepkey_in_hex is enough

Yes, I had had the hexkey in real typed in, not the password.

 wireless_channel 6

 Channel will be set in client mode where it finds the ap, You can't choose
 a channel.

Line deleted..
  Any clue ? Does this mean, the driver is not loaded, or do I have a
  configuration error ?

 Configuration error, see above.


No success yet ! 

 Regards,
 Imre

Regards,

Hans


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Re: WLAN Inprocomm ipn2220 - endless story

2005-08-23 Thread Max

Hans wrote:

Am Dienstag, 23. August 2005 11:11 schrieb Max:

Hans wrote:

This is the output, I get, when starting eth1 (same, when I change eth1
to wlan0)

/etc/init.d/networking restart
Setting up IP spoofing protection: rp_filter.
Reconfiguring network interfaces...ifup: interface lo already configured
Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) :
SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.

Do you have wireless-tools installed? What does iwconfig say?


Yes, I have. iwconfig says:

lono wireless extensions.

eth0  no wireless extensions.

eth1  no wireless extensions.

sit0  no wireless extensions.

Seems, the module is not properly loaded.


Any related messages in syslog/dmesg ?

Is ndiswrapper module loaded?


Was your kernel compiled with CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS=y ?


Yes, it is.


Max


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Re: WLAN Inprocomm ipn2220 - endless story

2005-08-23 Thread Hans
Am Dienstag, 23. August 2005 11:28 schrieb Max:
 Hans wrote:
  Am Dienstag, 23. August 2005 11:11 schrieb Max:
  Hans wrote:
  This is the output, I get, when starting eth1 (same, when I change eth1
  to wlan0)
 
  /etc/init.d/networking restart
  Setting up IP spoofing protection: rp_filter.
  Reconfiguring network interfaces...ifup: interface lo already
  configured Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) :
  SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
 
  Do you have wireless-tools installed? What does iwconfig say?
 
  Yes, I have. iwconfig says:
 
  lono wireless extensions.
 
  eth0  no wireless extensions.
 
  eth1  no wireless extensions.
 
  sit0  no wireless extensions.
 
  Seems, the module is not properly loaded.

 Any related messages in syslog/dmesg ?

 Is ndiswrapper module loaded?
Yes, it is.
  Was your kernel compiled with CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS=y ?
 
  Yes, it is.

 Max

Hans


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Re: more weird apt - bzip2.

2005-08-23 Thread Helge Hafting

Chris Wakefield wrote:


Hi Bob.

Yes, I get no output from:  perl -e 0
install-docs says:  no such file  but I think it's probably run inside 
the perl shell somehow, so ...


I screwed things up even worse, as I copied over apt-get and dpkg from another 
install and I have a big mess now.
 

Ouch!  Try not to do that. 

You are right, I have to fix the original problem first, but I can't fix 
without apt-get  dpkg working right, so gotta do a reinstall I think.


 


They do not work _at all_, or it is merely this upgrade problem always
getting stuck on some broken packages?

If dpkg works, then you can fix your apt by dowmlading the apt
package manually from one of the mirrors. 
Then install it using dpkg.


After that, play safe by also reinstalling dpkg,
i.e: apt-get install --reinstall dpkg

If dpkg is _broken_, then download the dpkg deb manually
and unpack it yourself. It is a cpio archive I believe, and can be 
unpacked using
cpio. 


Make sure you get the amd64 package . . .

Helge Hafting


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Re: WLAN Inprocomm ipn2220 - endless story

2005-08-23 Thread Hans
Am Dienstag, 23. August 2005 11:11 schrieb Max:
 Hans wrote:
  This is the output, I get, when starting eth1 (same, when I change eth1
  to wlan0)
 
  /etc/init.d/networking restart
  Setting up IP spoofing protection: rp_filter.
  Reconfiguring network interfaces...ifup: interface lo already configured
  Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) :
  SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.

 Do you have wireless-tools installed? What does iwconfig say?

Yes, I have. iwconfig says:

lono wireless extensions.

eth0  no wireless extensions.

eth1  no wireless extensions.

sit0  no wireless extensions.

Seems, the module is not properly loaded.


 Was your kernel compiled with CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS=y ?

Yes, it is.

 Max

Hans


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Re: WLAN Inprocomm ipn2220 - endless story

2005-08-23 Thread Imre Kaloz

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:11:19 +0200, Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



This is my entry in /etc/network/interfaces

iface eth1 inet dhcp
   wireless_essid mypassword

ESSID isn't a password, but a network indentifier.

   wireless_mode Mananged
It's not Mananged, but Managed. And anyway, this is the only available  
mode with windows drivers, and it's set automatically. You can remove this  
line.

   wireless_key1 mykey
   wireless_keymode restricted
   wireless_defaultkey 1

wireless_key $wepkey_in_hex is enough

   wireless_channel 6
Channel will be set in client mode where it finds the ap, You can't choose  
a channel.



Any clue ? Does this mean, the driver is not loaded, or do I have a
configuration error ?

Configuration error, see above.


Regards,
Imre


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Re: more weird apt - bzip2.

2005-08-23 Thread Sander
Helge Hafting wrote (ao):
 If dpkg is _broken_, then download the dpkg deb manually and unpack it
 yourself. It is a cpio archive I believe, and can be unpacked using
 cpio. 

An ar archive actually, to be unpacked with ar.

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Re: compiling module nvidia

2005-08-23 Thread Jo Shields

Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote:


Jo Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 


Andreas Richter wrote:

   


Am Dienstag, 9. August 2005 19:18 schrieb mondrillo:

 


Hello amd64's list

   


Hi,


 


I'm a newbie to the amd64 plataform, and I'm triying to compile a
nVidia [GeForce FX 5200].

I have trying the method related in
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source/README.Debian


   


download the newest driver from http://www.nvidia.com and run the
installer as root. It compiles a kernel module and install all
necessary files into the right directories. It works here perfectly.


 


no no NO NO NO NO NO _NO_ _NO_

nvidia-installer _WILL_ break your installation. Maybe not today,
maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of your life.

PLEASE, NEVER use nvidia-installer on any distribution with a non-crap
package manager.

1) apt-get install build-essential module-assistant

2) check the gcc version used to compile your kernel (cat
/proc/version)

3) if neccessary, install it and set the CC environment variable (this
is definitely going to be gcc-3.4 or gcc-4.0)

4) m-a a-i nvidia

5) modprobe nvidia, and add nvidia to the end of /etc/modules
   



Is this necessary? I didn't do that and everything works fine.


 


nvidia-installer overwrites files managed by dpkg for shits 'n' giggles.

If (when) your X packages are next updated, that leaves your nvidia 
installation messed up and non-functional. If subsequently you run 
nvidia-installer --uninstall, your X installation is more or less 
dead, unless you manually reinstall all X-related packages by hand.


Installing arbitrary crap over dpkg-managed files is BAD practice with 
Debian.


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problem with firefox and mozilla

2005-08-23 Thread Harald Wenninger
Hi,

I have problems with mozilla+firefox. I am using the unstable
distribution.
Every time I want to start firefox or mozilla, no window is opened. The
.mozilla-dir and its subdirectories get created, though. There's no
error displayed in the terminal from which I start the browsers.
Does anybody know somethin about this problem?

Greets,
Harald


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Re: WLAN Inprocomm ipn2220 - endless story

2005-08-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 10:11:19AM +0200, Hans wrote:
 now I made some progress, to get wlan running on AMD64. 
 First I downloaded ndiswrapper-source and ndiswrapper-utils. Compiling the 
 source went fine.
 Then I downloaded the IPN2220-driver for 64-bit from the acer site, I could 
 now load the driver with ndiswrapper. 
 Caution: The ndiswrapper loads i2220nti.sys (this is for Intel IA64), but 
 i2220nta.sys is needed ! After installation and done a ndiswrapper -m ,
 just change the file in /etc/ndiswrapper/neti2220/ from i2220nti.sys to 
 i2220nta.sys.

What is it about that IA64 message above?  I sure hope you got an
amd64/x86_64 windows driver, and not a 64 bit IA64 driver (since that is
something entirely different).

Len Sorensen


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Re: problem with firefox and mozilla

2005-08-23 Thread Sander
Harald Wenninger wrote (ao):
 I have problems with mozilla+firefox. I am using the unstable
 distribution.
 Every time I want to start firefox or mozilla, no window is opened.
 The .mozilla-dir and its subdirectories get created, though. There's
 no error displayed in the terminal from which I start the browsers.
 Does anybody know somethin about this problem?

Try to start mozilla from the console and see what it has to say.
Also have a look at ~/.xsession-errors

Good luck and kind regards, Sander

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Re: problem with firefox and mozilla

2005-08-23 Thread Harald Wenninger
* Am Dienstag, den 23. Aug 2005 um 17:17, schrieb Sander:

 Try to start mozilla from the console and see what it has to say.

Nothing :-)

 Also have a look at ~/.xsession-errors

Oh, good idea ...

 Good luck and kind regards, Sander

Thank you, Harald


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Re: problem with firefox and mozilla

2005-08-23 Thread Pete Harlan
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 03:08:35PM +0200, Harald Wenninger wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have problems with mozilla+firefox. I am using the unstable
 distribution.
 Every time I want to start firefox or mozilla, no window is opened. The
 .mozilla-dir and its subdirectories get created, though. There's no

I've had the same problem for a while, using 'testing'.  My window
manager is wmaker, and I (usually) can't launch mozilla or thunderbird
anymore.  If I switch to blackbox (the only other window manager I've
tried), it works.  So I log in, switch to blackbox, open them, then
switch back to windowmaker.

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Some binaries using /lib/ld.so instead of /lib64/ld.so

2005-08-23 Thread Laurent Bonnaud
Hi,

I'm seeing the following warnings from prelink:

/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/sbin/zic: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/sbin/iconvconfig: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, 
not /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/sbin/nscd_nischeck: Using 
/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /bin/nc: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/less: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/rpcinfo: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/localedef: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/iconv: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/dc: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/rpcgen: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/sprof: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/getent: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/lesskey: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/locale: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/gencat: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/file: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/screen: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/lessecho: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/getconf: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/bin/zdump: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker
/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/lib/pt_chown: Using /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, not 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 as dynamic linker

And indeed:

$ ldd /usr/bin/less |grep ld
/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x003b3cc0)

whereas all other binaries on the system use this:

$ ldd /bin/ls |grep ld
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x003b3cc0)

Of course, both ld.so versions are the same, but:

 - this inconsistency may be the result of a more serious problem
 - I like all binaries on my system to be consistent :.

Is this something the kind AMD64 porters could fix or should I send bug
reports for the concerned packages ?

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Re: problem with firefox and mozilla

2005-08-23 Thread Harald Wenninger
* Am Dienstag, den 23. Aug 2005 um 11:13, schrieb Pete Harlan:

 I've had the same problem for a while, using 'testing'.  My window
 manager is wmaker, and I (usually) can't launch mozilla or thunderbird
 anymore.  If I switch to blackbox (the only other window manager I've
 tried), it works.  So I log in, switch to blackbox, open them, then
 switch back to windowmaker.

Hm. Mine is fluxbox. I'll try a different one.

Greetings,
Harald


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Re: bug [ #301730 ] libX11.so.6 from ia32-libs unable to load locales: hasit been fixed ?

2005-08-23 Thread Gudjon I. Gudjonsson
Hi
   I have been running femlab for a year now and it has worked fine. I run
the server part in the 64 bit (femlab server ) and the client part
in a chroot (femlab client ...). I had to install nvidia-glx driver in
the chroot but then it worked. I may have missed something but this is
what I remember.

/Gudjon

 This bug is shown here.

 http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=301730group_id=30192atid=410386

 I am almost positive I have this problem on my recently-installed
 Debian/Sarge/AMD64 system.  I am running a commercial product (FEMLAB)
 that requires 32-bit java to install.  I would prefer to stay at Sarge
 and not have to upgrade to testing or unstable.  Is there a bug-tracking
 now via Debian specifically for AMD-64 ?  I would be happy to resubmit
 this bug if need be.

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bug [ #301730 ] libX11.so.6 from ia32-libs unable to load locales: has it been fixed ?

2005-08-23 Thread James D. Freels




This bug is shown here.

http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=301730group_id=30192atid=410386

I am almost positive I have this problem on my recently-installed Debian/Sarge/AMD64 system. I am running a commercial product (FEMLAB) that requires 32-bit java to install. I would prefer to stay at Sarge and not have to upgrade to testing or unstable. Is there a bug-tracking now via Debian specifically for AMD-64 ? I would be happy to resubmit this bug if need be.





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Re: bug [ #301730 ] libX11.so.6 from ia32-libs unable to load locales: hasit been fixed ?

2005-08-23 Thread James D. Freels




Hello Gudjon

And fellow Debian and FEMLAB user ! Whow ! What a great combination right ?

As it has turned out, I worked around this problem by forcing the install without a GUI and basically installing everything on the CD. I am installing the latest version 3.1i which has a different type installation process (I understand) than the previous versions. I also have the 32-bit libraries installed via the chroot, but still have this error with the graphical install. In my case, I now have the 64-bit server running fine on the AMD64, but I run the 32-bit client on a separate machine (we have the network license to allow for that). I have thje nvidia drivers on the client. but not the server. I don't think I need the 3D drivers on the server machine, but that is a thought.

At any rate, this forum is for Debian bugs, and I am more interested in resolution of this particular bug. Perhaps some of the AMD64 developers might be interested in this one ?


On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 19:49 +0200, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote:


Hi
   I have been running femlab for a year now and it has worked fine. I run
the server part in the 64 bit (femlab server ) and the client part
in a chroot (femlab client ...). I had to install nvidia-glx driver in
the chroot but then it worked. I may have missed something but this is
what I remember.

/Gudjon

 This bug is shown here.

 http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=301730group_id=30192atid=410386

 I am almost positive I have this problem on my recently-installed
 Debian/Sarge/AMD64 system.  I am running a commercial product (FEMLAB)
 that requires 32-bit java to install.  I would prefer to stay at Sarge
 and not have to upgrade to testing or unstable.  Is there a bug-tracking
 now via Debian specifically for AMD-64 ?  I would be happy to resubmit
 this bug if need be.

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Re: problem with firefox and mozilla

2005-08-23 Thread Harald Wenninger
* Am Dienstag, den 23. Aug 2005 um 11:13, schrieb Pete Harlan:

 I've had the same problem for a while, using 'testing'.  My window
 manager is wmaker, and I (usually) can't launch mozilla or thunderbird
 anymore.  If I switch to blackbox (the only other window manager I've
 tried), it works.  So I log in, switch to blackbox, open them, then
 switch back to windowmaker.

I've tested it now.
Firefox starts in blackbox and twm, but not in fluxbox.
Is this a fluxbox/windowmaker error or a bug in firefox/mozilla?
What about other window managers?

Greetings,
Harald


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Re: problem with firefox and mozilla

2005-08-23 Thread Luke Schierer
for me, Firefox and mozilla are working more or less normally, but
galeon crashes with incredible frequency.

Luke

On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 08:34:19PM +0200, Harald Wenninger wrote:
 * Am Dienstag, den 23. Aug 2005 um 11:13, schrieb Pete Harlan:
 
  I've had the same problem for a while, using 'testing'.  My window
  manager is wmaker, and I (usually) can't launch mozilla or thunderbird
  anymore.  If I switch to blackbox (the only other window manager I've
  tried), it works.  So I log in, switch to blackbox, open them, then
  switch back to windowmaker.
 
 I've tested it now.
 Firefox starts in blackbox and twm, but not in fluxbox.
 Is this a fluxbox/windowmaker error or a bug in firefox/mozilla?
 What about other window managers?
 
 Greetings,
 Harald



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Re: Advice on hardware

2005-08-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 12:08:54PM -0700, Elaine Tsiang YueLien wrote:
 There seem to be two product lines available for quad dual core opterons
 at this point, one based on the Iwill H4203 (MB+Chasis), and the other
 on the Tyan S4882. Both are based on the AMD chipset. The Iwill MB has
 only IDE controller on board, the Tyan has SATA or SCSI. The machine
 will be used for compute-intensive tasks, server functions being not as
 important. I would appreciate any comments on either, or comparisons.
 Are there new MBs/systems in the works to be introduced in the near
 future, before 2006?

When is AMD supposed to switch to the new socket?  I am wondering if it
makes sense to buy a new system before or after that switch.  I like
buying things when I know the socket will be around for a while (I have
an Asus A7V which was one of the first socket A boards out, and it is
early enough revision to have some stupidities, like the IDE activity
light only working for one of the ide controllers. :)

As for chipsets for quad systems, I don't know if there are any new ones
coming any time soon.  I have seen dual systems with nvidia, and I have
seen systems with AMD.  I think I read that serverworks might be making
an opteron chipset, but I don't know if that is true.

Len Sorensen


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Re: problem with firefox and mozilla

2005-08-23 Thread Dan Cherry
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 02:34 pm, Harald Wenninger wrote:
 * Am Dienstag, den 23. Aug 2005 um 11:13, schrieb Pete Harlan:
  I've had the same problem for a while, using 'testing'.  My window
  manager is wmaker, and I (usually) can't launch mozilla or thunderbird
  anymore.  If I switch to blackbox (the only other window manager I've
  tried), it works.  So I log in, switch to blackbox, open them, then
  switch back to windowmaker.

 I've tested it now.
 Firefox starts in blackbox and twm, but not in fluxbox.
 Is this a fluxbox/windowmaker error or a bug in firefox/mozilla?
 What about other window managers?
firefox (from deb pkg 1.0.4-2) works fine from icewm.
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Re: Some binaries using /lib/ld.so instead of /lib64/ld.so

2005-08-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Laurent Bonnaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 And indeed:

 $ ldd /usr/bin/less |grep ld
 /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x003b3cc0)

 whereas all other binaries on the system use this:

 $ ldd /bin/ls |grep ld
 /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x003b3cc0)

 Of course, both ld.so versions are the same, but:

  - this inconsistency may be the result of a more serious problem
  - I like all binaries on my system to be consistent :.

 Is this something the kind AMD64 porters could fix or should I send bug
 reports for the concerned packages ?

Under sarge and sid I get the following:

% ldd /usr/bin/less
libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x002a9566c000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x002a957c5000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 = /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 
(0x002a95556000)

% madison less
  less |  382-1 |stable | source, amd64
  less |  382-2 |   testing | source, amd64
  less |  382-2 |  unstable | source, amd64

Package: less
Version: 382-1
Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libncurses5 (= 5.4-1), debianutils (= 1.8)

Package: less
Version: 382-2
Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libncurses5 (= 5.4-1), debianutils (= 1.8)

Both less versions are compiled with the same libc and ld. Where does
your less come from?

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Advice on hardware

2005-08-23 Thread Elaine Tsiang YueLien
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 15:09 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 12:08:54PM -0700, Elaine Tsiang YueLien wrote:
  There seem to be two product lines available for quad dual core opterons
  at this point, one based on the Iwill H4203 (MB+Chasis), and the other
  on the Tyan S4882. Both are based on the AMD chipset. The Iwill MB has
  only IDE controller on board, the Tyan has SATA or SCSI. The machine
  will be used for compute-intensive tasks, server functions being not as
  important. I would appreciate any comments on either, or comparisons.
  Are there new MBs/systems in the works to be introduced in the near
  future, before 2006?
 
 When is AMD supposed to switch to the new socket?  I am wondering if it
 makes sense to buy a new system before or after that switch.  I like
 buying things when I know the socket will be around for a while (I have
 an Asus A7V which was one of the first socket A boards out, and it is
 early enough revision to have some stupidities, like the IDE activity
 light only working for one of the ide controllers. :)

I have heard socket F is not till late 2006. There is an nvidia 8-way MB
+daughter. The MB may be used for quad dual (not sure), the DB could be
great for expansion. But apparently there is no kernel support for the
nvidia chipset, and indeed I have found no vendor selling it with Linux.

 
 As for chipsets for quad systems, I don't know if there are any new ones
 coming any time soon.  I have seen dual systems with nvidia, and I have
 seen systems with AMD.  I think I read that serverworks might be making
 an opteron chipset, but I don't know if that is true.
 
 Len Sorensen

Elaine
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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-23 Thread Tim T.
On 8/17/05, Frederik Schueler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 a short update on the acer wmli5024:
 
 On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:09:51PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
  ACPI is a mess (no battery status! (great for a laptop) nor thermal,
  only AC and buttons)
 
 battery status works with 2.6.12.5 and the latest acpi patch found at
 http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/lenb/acpi/patches/release/2.6.12/acpi-20050729-2.6.12.patch.bz2
 
 and temperatures too.
 
  the keyboard starts working after a few key strokes
 
 one stroke, and it is recognised (with 2.6.12.5+acpi)
 
  the touchpad is only recognised after rmmodding and modprobing psmouse
  again
 
 problem still present.
 
 best regards
 Frederik Schueler
 

hi Frederik,
 I;'ve tried this kernel version and the patch.. without any luck:
still no battery
(This on an ACER 5024WLMi, by the way.. what irritates me is that I just booted
 from the Ubuntu live CD, and did see the battery.. 

Would you be so kind as to post or mail your kernel configuration ? 

Also: the Ubuntu distribution has a 1280x800 resolution on this
hardware, which  I can't seem to reproduce (At least, not with the
modern Xfree config.. ) Could some one give me a pointer to a working
configuration ? (I used to be able to compute modelines by hand. Don't
see anywhere I can put a modeline these days.)

Thanks in advance

  TimT.



Re: Advice on hardware

2005-08-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 01:04:39PM -0700, Elaine Tsiang YueLien wrote:
 I have heard socket F is not till late 2006. There is an nvidia 8-way MB
 +daughter. The MB may be used for quad dual (not sure), the DB could be
 great for expansion. But apparently there is no kernel support for the
 nvidia chipset, and indeed I have found no vendor selling it with Linux.

Well certainly some nvidia chipsets work with linux, although perhaps
not fully in every way.  NCQ certainly has no support at this time
(although nvidia says their next chipset will have their own SATA design
so they can release programing specifications).

So far I have only used the mobile nvidia chipset (I think nforce go 250
or something like that), and it works just fine with linux on that
machine.  Sound works, USB works, video works (GF go mx 440 video), ide
works.  Can't think of anything else in the chipset that could need
support.

A server chipset with multiple cpus on the other hand, with sata and
all, may be a bit harder to get fully working.  I haven't tried.

Len Sorensen


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Re: problem with firefox and mozilla

2005-08-23 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
Harald Wenninger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 * Am Dienstag, den 23. Aug 2005 um 11:13, schrieb Pete Harlan:
 
  I've had the same problem for a while, using 'testing'.  My window
  manager is wmaker, and I (usually) can't launch mozilla or thunderbird
  anymore.  If I switch to blackbox (the only other window manager I've
  tried), it works.  So I log in, switch to blackbox, open them, then
  switch back to windowmaker.
 
 I've tested it now.
 Firefox starts in blackbox and twm, but not in fluxbox.
 Is this a fluxbox/windowmaker error or a bug in firefox/mozilla?
 What about other window managers?

I had problems with fvwm in Sid a while ago. Firefox didn't appear in
fvwm (the process was ok: just waiting for user interaction which it
couldn't get cause I couldn't see it) but starting it from another wm
(openbox) and switching to fvwm after was ok (but not really
userfriendly).
Bugs were posted for fvwm and after an upgrade it was ok. Unfortunately
both fvwm and firefox were upgraded at that time. So I can't tell which
was the one to blame.

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sun-j2re1.5

2005-08-23 Thread Max

Hello!

Where can I get sun-j2re1.5 package for debian-amd64?

Thanks,
Max


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Re: Advice on hardware ... Tyan S2895 K8WE

2005-08-23 Thread Tim Matthews

I did have the chance to test a Tyan S2895 (www.k8we.com).

I tried Suse, Fedora, FreeBSD and Debian (all the Amd64 ports).

Debian performed the best of all on that mainboard. Though, I would have 
liked to put the OS through more testing on it.


I could use the NVIDIA chipset with Debian.

Though, if you use the S2895 .. be ready for much pain. We did replace 
it with a more mellow K8SD Pro (less agony).


tim


Elaine Tsiang YueLien wrote:


On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 15:09 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 


On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 12:08:54PM -0700, Elaine Tsiang YueLien wrote:
   


There seem to be two product lines available for quad dual core opterons
at this point, one based on the Iwill H4203 (MB+Chasis), and the other
on the Tyan S4882. Both are based on the AMD chipset. The Iwill MB has
only IDE controller on board, the Tyan has SATA or SCSI. The machine
will be used for compute-intensive tasks, server functions being not as
important. I would appreciate any comments on either, or comparisons.
Are there new MBs/systems in the works to be introduced in the near
future, before 2006?
 


When is AMD supposed to switch to the new socket?  I am wondering if it
makes sense to buy a new system before or after that switch.  I like
buying things when I know the socket will be around for a while (I have
an Asus A7V which was one of the first socket A boards out, and it is
early enough revision to have some stupidities, like the IDE activity
light only working for one of the ide controllers. :)
   



I have heard socket F is not till late 2006. There is an nvidia 8-way MB
+daughter. The MB may be used for quad dual (not sure), the DB could be
great for expansion. But apparently there is no kernel support for the
nvidia chipset, and indeed I have found no vendor selling it with Linux.

 


As for chipsets for quad systems, I don't know if there are any new ones
coming any time soon.  I have seen dual systems with nvidia, and I have
seen systems with AMD.  I think I read that serverworks might be making
an opteron chipset, but I don't know if that is true.

Len Sorensen
   



Elaine
 




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Re: sun-j2re1.5

2005-08-23 Thread Alexander Jede
You can find a how-to for ubuntu on this site:
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-09-16.3469703387

It also works on x86-64 aquivalent to x86. You only have to use the sun
package for amd64.
And there is no java-plugin for mozilla

Alex

Am Dienstag, den 23.08.2005, 14:30 -0700 schrieb Max:
 Hello!
 
 Where can I get sun-j2re1.5 package for debian-amd64?
 
 Thanks,
 Max



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Re: Advice on hardware

2005-08-23 Thread Elaine Tsiang YueLien
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 16:16 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:

 A server chipset with multiple cpus on the other hand, with sata and
 all, may be a bit harder to get fully working.  I haven't tried.

I am a little nervous about that. I have scanned the last few months of
this list - there does not seem to be any problem in principle with
getting amd64-k8-smp itself going, only with drivers or packages to go
with it. Is there no data point for Sarge on such a system? The vendors
are bundling Red Hat and Suse licenses.

I hope to get help on this list if I can't get all the wheels to turn.
In return, I will certainly share all the trials and tribulations of
such an adventure.

Elaine


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Re: sun-j2re1.5

2005-08-23 Thread Ernest jw ter Kuile

 Where can I get sun-j2re1.5 package for debian-amd64?

because of licencing incompatibilities, you will not find that anywhere.

However, installing package java-package, and following instructions 
included should do the trick.

Ernest.


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Re: Advice on hardware ... Tyan S2895 K8WE

2005-08-23 Thread Allan Wind
On 2005-08-23T22:48:28+0100, Tim Matthews wrote:
 Though, if you use the S2895 .. be ready for much pain. We did replace 
 it with a more mellow K8SD Pro (less agony).

Anything besides installation (drivers + bios flash)?


/Allan


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Re: Advice on hardware ... Tyan S2895 K8WE

2005-08-23 Thread Elaine Tsiang YueLien
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 22:48 +0100, Tim Matthews wrote:
 I did have the chance to test a Tyan S2895 (www.k8we.com).
 
 I tried Suse, Fedora, FreeBSD and Debian (all the Amd64 ports).
 
 Debian performed the best of all on that mainboard. Though, I would have 
 liked to put the OS through more testing on it.

 I could use the NVIDIA chipset with Debian.
 
 Though, if you use the S2895 .. be ready for much pain. We did replace 
 it with a more mellow K8SD Pro (less agony).
 
Was any proprietary driver required for the S2895?

Was there no detectable difference in performance for cpu/memory/disk
tests between the 2 chipsets?

Thanks,

Elaine

 tim
 
 



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Re: Advice on hardware ... Tyan S2895 K8WE

2005-08-23 Thread Samat Jain

What was particularly wrong with it?

The SuperMicro H8DCE (which I sent a compatibilty report a few days ago 
to this list) is based on the same chipset, more or less. It's a dual 
northbridge (one for each CPU) nVidia 2200/2050 combination.


The only issues I've been having with it:
- not gotten temperature sensing to work with the nVidia SMBus system
- have to run the kernel with noapic (with Debian's kernels as well as 
my own 2.6.12)
- the gigabit NIC with the forcedeth driver won't go above 10MB/sec 
(even though the OSS driver supposedly supports gigabit operation).


Samat

Tim Matthews wrote:

Though, if you use the S2895 .. be ready for much pain. We did replace 
it with a more mellow K8SD Pro (less agony).




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Re: problem with firefox and mozilla

2005-08-23 Thread Antoine Labour
Harald Wenninger wrote:

* Am Dienstag, den 23. Aug 2005 um 11:13, schrieb Pete Harlan:

  

I've had the same problem for a while, using 'testing'.  My window
manager is wmaker, and I (usually) can't launch mozilla or thunderbird
anymore.  If I switch to blackbox (the only other window manager I've
tried), it works.  So I log in, switch to blackbox, open them, then
switch back to windowmaker.



I've tested it now.
Firefox starts in blackbox and twm, but not in fluxbox.
Is this a fluxbox/windowmaker error or a bug in firefox/mozilla?
What about other window managers?

Greetings,
Harald
  

I've got the same problems with WindowMaker.

Sometimes the window appears with a weird size and position, sometimes
not at all.
It happens also with a firefox or thunderbird launched from the 32bit
chroot (testing).

Antoine


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Re: problem with firefox and mozilla

2005-08-23 Thread Lubos Vrbka

I've tested it now.
Firefox starts in blackbox and twm, but not in fluxbox.
Is this a fluxbox/windowmaker error or a bug in firefox/mozilla?
What about other window managers?
for me, on testing: firefox/thunderbird do not work in fluxbox but do 
work in enlightenment...
if i recall correctly, firefox/thunderbird was running (according to ps 
and top), but no window occured...


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