Re: Dupal Opteron on Sarge

[lordSauron]

I know it was a gross generalisation, but it's easier than making
charts and graphs of situation-specific performance levels.  Its wan't
meant to be perfect, just a ballpark idea.

Re: soundcard not detected by alsaconf

[Smugzilla]

Tony Andrews wrote:

I've been trying all day to get the sound up and running, but no dice. 
I have the chaintech vnf4 ultra which has onboard nvidia sound. I have 
the snd-intel8x0 driver module and modprobe gives no error. I tried 
commenting out the oss modules but I'm not to sure that I did a 
thorough job(im a newb) Here's my lsmod output:


debian:~# lsmod
Module Size Used by
isofs 36492 0
nvidia 4384040 12
ipv6 264296 8
af_packet 23308 2
usblp 13696 0
ehci_hcd 30852 0
ohci_hcd 21252 0
tsdev 8576 0
mousedev 11852 1
evdev 10944 0
snd_intel8x0 35988 0
snd_ac97_codec 3220 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm_oss 56680 0
snd_mixer_oss 9520 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 100876 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 24968 1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 12944 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
gameport 5120 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_mpu401_uart 8192 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi 26532 1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 9164 1 snd_rawmidi
snd 56936 9 
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi, 
snd_seq_device

soundcore 11232 1 snd
psmouse 19340 0
ide_cd 42016 0
cdrom 39208 1 ide_cd
forcedeth 18432 0
ext3 119760 1
jbd 58288 1 ext3
mbcache 9928 1 ext3
ide_generic 1856 0
ide_disk 20864 3
amd74xx 14768 1
ide_core 154336 4 ide_cd,ide_generic,ide_disk,amd74xx
unix 29696 408
font 9152 0
vesafb 6960 0
cfbcopyarea 4160 1 vesafb
cfbimgblt 3328 1 vesafb
cfbfillrect 4352 1 vesafb

As you can see there's still oss modules loaded(told you im a newb). 
I'm not sure is thats significant but i'm sure that I don't know what 
else to try. Its a Debian 64bit distro running 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 
kernel and I believe that the alsa drivers are on by default. any help 
would be appreciated. 


Upgrade your kernel to 2.6.12 or better. Worked for me.


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Re: Dupal Opteron on Sarge

[valentin_nils]

Steve,

can you be more specific please ?
What do you intend to do with the server (Web,DB,DTP ;=) etc.) ?

If you consider running MySQL on the Opteron then you are in VERY good
hands *consult the mysql mailing list. There is enough info to keep you
reading for a month or so.

If you want to do DTP than you just wasted your money ;-).

In order to give a better answer you should consider giving MUCH more
details (MB, Memory HDD interface etc).

F.e. I am using some of the the Tyan S2882UG3NR with 2-6GB Memory.

Which probably brings us to the next question.

Which HDD interface will you be using ?

Note that almost all Sata controllers are software based *except 3Com +
(one more I forgot).

This means that you will basically use the opensource driver when you
consider SATA.

I also tried Suse 9.2 *which is know a bit dated, which basically gave me
the best performance so far.

However for other reasons I decided that Debian is better for my needs and
future compatibility *ugrading etc.

If you are just after speed & power you may as well decide to wait for the
dual core CPUs to arrive.

One thing that is commonly reported and that I can also confirm is that
the workload on Opteron systems is usually quite low, even when running a
few tasks in the background. This is why Hosting companies like opteron
systems '=).

I hope that I could make a few valid points which can help you make a
decision. If you can give a few more details than I might be able to make
a more specific reply.

You may also be interested in some of my private scriples & notes which
are publicly available:

http://www.be-known-online.com/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=113

>>Choose "AMD Opteron 64 bit"
>>Page seems to be empty, so from the dropdown menu choose "From the
beginning"

You should get some installation descriptons for Opteron based systems.

There used to be more info, however a harddisc crash sorted that out ;-).
I am still rebuilding the site.

Best regards

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> I'm thinking about purchasing a dual Opteron server to run on Sarge.
> This is only my second server purchase.  My first server runs Debian
> Woody on a single Petium 4, 2.8 GHz.
>
> Can someone give me an idea of what kind of performance gain I would
> see?  I've tried hunting around for benchmark comparisons but haven't
> had success finding any because the processors target much different
> markets.
>
> Now for a more Debian specific question.  I read the AMD 64 how-to at
> https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html.
>  They talk about "the quick way" of running 32-bit binaries on a 64
> bit system and installing a "Debian IA32 chroot system."
>
> Can someone tell me why I would do one over the other?
>
> Thanks.
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soundcard not detected by alsaconf

[Tony Andrews]

I've been trying all day to get the sound up and running, but no dice.
I have the chaintech vnf4 ultra which has onboard nvidia sound. I have
the snd-intel8x0 driver module and modprobe gives no error. I tried
commenting out the oss modules but I'm not to sure that I did a
thorough job(im a newb) Here's my lsmod output:



debian:~# lsmod

Module  Size  Used by

isofs36492  0

nvidia  4384040   12

ipv6 2642968

af_packet  23308 2

usblp13696  0

ehci_hcd   30852  0

ohci_hcd   21252  0

tsdev 8576  0

mousedev  11852  1

evdev10944  0

snd_intel8x0   35988  0

snd_ac97_codec 3220  1 snd_intel8x0

snd_pcm_oss  56680  0

snd_mixer_oss9520  1 snd_pcm_oss

snd_pcm 100876  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss

snd_timer24968  1 snd_pcm

snd_page_alloc12944  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm

gameport 5120  1 snd_intel8x0

snd_mpu401_uart  8192  1 snd_intel8x0

snd_rawmidi26532  1 snd_mpu401_uart

snd_seq_device   9164  1 snd_rawmidi

snd 56936 9
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,
snd_seq_device

soundcore11232  1 snd

psmouse  19340  0

ide_cd  42016  0

cdrom  39208  1 ide_cd

forcedeth  18432  0

ext3 119760  1

jbd   58288  1 ext3

mbcache   9928  1 ext3

ide_generic1856  0

ide_disk20864  3

amd74xx   14768  1

ide_core   154336  4 ide_cd,ide_generic,ide_disk,amd74xx

unix  29696  408

font   9152  0

vesafb   6960  0

cfbcopyarea   4160  1 vesafb

cfbimgblt3328  1 vesafb

cfbfillrect4352  1 vesafb



As you can see there's still oss modules loaded(told you im a newb).
I'm not sure is thats significant but i'm sure that I don't know what
else to try. Its a Debian 64bit distro running 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 kernel
and I believe that the alsa drivers are on by default. any help would
be appreciated.

Re: Dupal Opteron on Sarge

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 13:18 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:49:55PM -0700, lordSauron wrote:
> > pentium 4s use a 21 stage pipeline or something like that... so they
> > take approximately 21 clock cycles to get anything done.  AMD uses
> > about 7 stages (or something in that neighbourhood) so if you divide
> > 2.8 by 21 and 2.0 (my Athlon64) by 7, you get a really interesting
> > breakdown.  You'll certainly find a HUGE increase in performance,
> 
> That's a terrible simplification. Yes, it takes longer to get the first

Not only is it a simplification, it's wrong.

> result (21 cycles versus 7) but the idea of the pipeline is that you can
> get a result every clock cycle after that.

But when you context-switch or branch, the pipeline gets dirty,
and the new process needs to fill up the pipeline.

Short pipelines like in Athlon & G4 are easier on branching,
but other techniques like speculative fetching and OOE mitigate
that somewhat.

And then, deep pipelines let you ramp up the clock much easier
than do short pipelines.  Don't know why, though.

>  The latency is higher but the
> throughput is also higher (more clock cycles per second).

I've always wondered if a simple single-tasking OS like extended 
DOS would be a perfect match for the P4.

With loop-unrolling and a 2MB cache, it would chew thru CPU-inten-
sive code like a buzz saw thru balsa.

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Re: Dupal Opteron on Sarge

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:49:55PM -0700, lordSauron wrote:
> pentium 4s use a 21 stage pipeline or something like that... so they
> take approximately 21 clock cycles to get anything done.  AMD uses
> about 7 stages (or something in that neighbourhood) so if you divide
> 2.8 by 21 and 2.0 (my Athlon64) by 7, you get a really interesting
> breakdown.  You'll certainly find a HUGE increase in performance,

That's a terrible simplification. Yes, it takes longer to get the first
result (21 cycles versus 7) but the idea of the pipeline is that you can
get a result every clock cycle after that. The latency is higher but the
throughput is also higher (more clock cycles per second).

In practice you can't use every opportunity in the pipeline, but it's
not a case of 21 clocks per instruction.

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Re: How to run qt3*

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 08:35:17PM +0100, Matthias Reinhardt wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> how can I get qt3* and all the necessary libqt3* workin.
> I have several problems using appz with qt3
> 
> solution: 32bit chroot?

There's no problem with qt3 on amd64. Do you have a particular package
that is causing problems?

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Re: Marillat's repository is down

[lordSauron]

the only problem is that is that some of us are stuck with
insufferable nincompoops for ISPs, like comcast  and
can't get anything decent for hosting ANYTHING (yes, you just touched
one of my personal sore spots... I would be a great web developer if I
only could host)

I agree we should all be servers, but how would you like it if you
were stuck with me and my infuriating 3kbs "broadband" upload speed?

Re: Dupal Opteron on Sarge

[lordSauron]

oh... as for performance increases...

pentium 4s use a 21 stage pipeline or something like that... so they
take approximately 21 clock cycles to get anything done.  AMD uses
about 7 stages (or something in that neighbourhood) so if you divide
2.8 by 21 and 2.0 (my Athlon64) by 7, you get a really interesting
breakdown.  You'll certainly find a HUGE increase in performance,
ESPECIALLY if you go dual-core.  As for dual-core and 64bit kernels
and the like... there was a few.  you'd be looking at the
amd64-generic-SMP kernels (I think)  the amd64 is for 64bit (x86_64)
and the generic is b/c I don't know if opterons are considered a k8
thing (I'd have to go check) and the SMP is to give you dual-core
action, so you can use the withering power now avaliable to you.  It's
soo cool... someday I'll get one... until then I just
annoy everyone with wordy descriptions of 'em.

and for those of you who're mentally screaming at my crude way of
benchmarking the two cpus, it's only for a ballpark comparison.  by no
means is that ENTIRELY accurate, and should NOT be treated as such.

Re: Dupal Opteron on Sarge

[lordSauron]

I cannot reccommend AMD enough.  I've had a Athlon1400 for the past 4
years or so, and it's still outperforming most of the lower-end
pentium fours.  Now I have a nice shiny new Athlon64 3000+, and it's
really nice and fast.  If you want to get an opteron, I'd really
reccommend, if you have the money, the Tyan S4882UG2NR K8QS PRO Quad
Opteron/SCSI/SATA/2GL/SSI MEB Motherboard.  It's obscenely pricey, but
it could power your entire enterprise and participate in compile farm
events at the same time, with power to spare.  If you really want
obliterating power, go for one of the boards that supports the
dual-core opterons.  AMD really had fun with their dual core, look at
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485,00.html
for proof.  I'm not kidding, you're gonna get a whole heck of a lotta
bang for your buck, even if you're only running a single dual core
opteron.  Load 'er up with about 2GB ram, a couple SATAII drives in
RAID 0+1 mode, and you've got the dream server right there.  I'm
really not joking.  the only problem with 64bit is that amd64 debian
support is still hiding in the testing/unstable areas, so you won't
find any "official" release, which means you have to dig a bit, but
it's there.  I really hope you choose AMD, because they've done so
well for me... I even have a Intel machine (pentium M 1.0 GHz, 256mb
RAM) that was absolutely obliterated by my 1400... I can't say enough
for AMD.  You'll certainly get your money's worth if you buy AMD.  If
you like, just gimme a price cap and I can go hunt for the precise
hardware you'd want.  I'd even offer to build it for you, but you'd
have to be nuts to trust a total stranger like me :)

I hope you find a solution soon!

Re: Kernel Headers for 2.6.11

[Aethon]

On 9/17/05, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As a followup to my other message: Now I understand."kernel-headers" as well as "kernel-image" are obsoleted, because thenew kernel package now creates "linux-image" as well as "linux-headers"
packages.And the newest of these is linux-headers-2.6.12-1.
That answers quite a few things. I've now got 2.6.12 running with the nvidia drivers. Now to figure out the sound...

Thanks

Aethon

How to run qt3*

[Matthias Reinhardt]

Hi everybody,

how can I get qt3* and all the necessary libqt3* workin.
I have several problems using appz with qt3

solution: 32bit chroot?

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CDROM problems in 2.6.12-1-amd64-k8

[Dean Hamstead]

updating to 2.6.12 has solved a few problems but has
brought on the problem of kernel oop's when i try to mount
a cdrom

in 2.6.8-11-amd-k8 (and generic) cdrom works just fine.


obviously this is very annoying

before i complain that the nvidia drivers are unstable and
only show half my video memory =\

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Re: Kernel Headers for 2.6.11

[Frank]

As a followup to my other message: Now I understand.

"kernel-headers" as well as "kernel-image" are obsoleted, because the
new kernel package now creates "linux-image" as well as "linux-headers"
packages.

And the newest of these is linux-headers-2.6.12-1.


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Re: Kernel Headers for 2.6.11

[Frank]

Now that you mention it, I notice that these packages reside 
beneath "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages" in aptitude. 
Don't ask me, where I got them from though ...

If it helps you, I could send them via E-Mail to you:

-rw-r--r--  1 root root 2854290 2005-06-29 19:02 
kernel-headers-2.6.11-9_2.6.11-4_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  239872 2005-06-29 19:02 
kernel-headers-2.6.11-9-amd64-k8_2.6.11-4_amd64.deb


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Re: Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC

[Dean Hamstead]

i updated to 2.6.12 (from debian) and it works fine now
cheers

Dean

Yannick - Debian/Linux wrote:

Hi,

I've a different chip but with the same driver as you : it seems broken 
on the debian kernel 2.6.8, try another one. I've no problem getting 
sound with other kernels (provided by debian or kernel.org).


Regards
Yannick

Dean Hamstead a écrit :


2.6.8-11-amd64-k8

straight from the mirror

Dean

Frederik Schueler wrote:


Hello,

On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 09:45:24PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:


any ideas? this kernel is a tad old - although its straight out of
'unstable'





Which kernel version are you using? does it work with
linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 (or what your flavour is)?

Best regards
Frederik Schueler









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Re: Kernel Headers for 2.6.11

[Aethon]

On 9/17/05, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The packages exists for me. But I have only "testing" sourcesin my list, no "unstable" ones.Maybe you need to put the deb-src entry there?
I actually do have the deb-src there as well, I forgot to mention that.
 $ aptitude search kernel-headers
i A kernel-headers-2.6.11-9 - Header files related to Linux kernel versi   kernel-headers-2.6.11-9-amd64-k
 - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.11 o$ cat /etc/apt/sources.listdeb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian testing main contrib non-free
Ok, now I'm really confused. Just for the sake of testing I commented
out my sources.list and added the above two lines.  Then did:
# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[...snipped commented lines...]
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
# apt-get update
Get:1 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages [3367kB]
Get:2 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Release [96B]
Get:3 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Packages [42.9kB]
Get:4 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Release [99B]
Get:5 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Packages [30.4kB]
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Release
Get:6 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Sources [1327kB]
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Release
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Sources
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Release
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Sources
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Release
Fetched 4768kB in 5m53s (13.5kB/s)
Reading Package Lists... Done# aptitude search kernel-headers
v  
kernel-headers 
-
v   kernel-headers-2.4  -
v   kernel-headers-2.6  -
p   kernel-headers-2.6-amd64-generi - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6 on g
i   kernel-headers-2.6-amd64-k8 - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6 on A
p   kernel-headers-2.6-amd64-k8-smp - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6 on A
p   kernel-headers-2.6-em64t-p4 - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6 on I
p   kernel-headers-2.6-em64t-p4-smp - Linux kernel headers 2.6 on Intel EM64T s
i  
kernel-headers-2.6.8-11
- Header files related to Linux kernel vers
p   kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-g - Linux kernel headers 2.6.8 for generic x8
i   kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.8 on
p   kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.8 on
p   kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-em64t-p - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.8 on
p   kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-em64t-p - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.8 on
i  
linux-kernel-headers   
- Linux Kernel Headers for development
p  
misdn-kernel-headers   
- Header files for the mISDN drivers
p   pistachio-kernel-headers    - L4 microkernel implementation - kernel he

And I'm still not seeing the right package. For what it is worth the
output of "aptitude search kernel-headers" did not change by changing
to the ftp.de.debian.org repository.

How is it that I don't see the right package now? Is there somehow some
cache that apt has that I should try clearing or something?

Re: Kernel Headers for 2.6.11

[Frank]

The packages exists for me. But I have only "testing" sources
in my list, no "unstable" ones.
Maybe you need to put the deb-src entry there?

$ aptitude search kernel-headers
i A kernel-headers-2.6.11-9 - Header files related to Linux kernel vers
i   kernel-headers-2.6.11-9-amd64-k - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.11 o

$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian testing main contrib 
non-free

Am Samstag, 17. September 2005 23:56 schrieb Aethon:
> I'm trying to upgrade my kernel from 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 to 2.6.11-amd64-k8.
> The package installs fine and boots up ok, and even recognizes my sound
> card (which the 2.6.8 kernel does not, hence the reason I'm upgrading). The
> problem is when I try to install the nvidia module. I've installed the
> module for 2.6.8 using module-assistant with no problem. When I went to do
> this on 2.6.11 I get a problem running "module-assistant prepare". It
> complains that it cannot find the package kernel-headers-2.6.11-9-amd64-k8.
> I've search around for the package on
> packages.debian.organd can't seem to
> locate it. So where can I find this package or something
> else to resolve this dependancy?
>
> If it is relevant, my /etc/apt/sources.list has
> deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ testing main contrib
> non-free
> deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ unstable main contrib
> non-free
>
> I'm running testing with the occasional package from unstable.


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Re: Are these emails getting posted?

[Ron Johnson]

On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 17:08 -0400, Steve Dondley wrote:
> I am not receiving copies of e-mail I am sending to this list as I
> should.  Or maybe I'm not supposed to?  Can someone please let me know
> if they get this?  Thanks.  Sorry for the hassle.

Yes, all 3 emails arrived.

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Kernel Headers for 2.6.11

[Aethon]

Hi,

I'm trying to upgrade my kernel from 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 to
2.6.11-amd64-k8. The package installs fine and boots up ok, and even
recognizes my sound card (which the 2.6.8 kernel does not, hence the
reason I'm upgrading). The problem is when I try to install the nvidia
module. I've installed the module for 2.6.8 using module-assistant with
no problem. When I went to do this on 2.6.11 I get a problem running
"module-assistant prepare". It complains that it cannot find the
package kernel-headers-2.6.11-9-amd64-k8. I've search around for the
package on packages.debian.org and can't seem to locate it. So where
can I find this package or something else to resolve this dependancy?

If it is relevant, my /etc/apt/sources.list has
deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

I'm running testing with the occasional package from unstable.

Thanks,

Aethon

Re: ia32-libs must still be installed when using amd64-archive?

[Goswin von Brederlow]

Adam Skutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> 
>> You install ia32-libs as specified per depends.
> FWIW, I did some hacking and got amd64-archive to successfully build
> libgcc1, and then installed it with a new version of ia32-libc6 that
> Conflicts on ia32-libs.  Everything seem to install ok, and
> OpenOffice.org seems to work alright, at the very least.
>
> I can provide patches if desired.
>
> Adam

Not needed but thanks.

MfG
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Dupal Opteron on Sarge

[Steve Dondley]

I'm thinking about purchasing a dual Opteron server to run on Sarge.
This is only my second server purchase.  My first server runs Debian
Woody on a single Petium 4, 2.8 GHz.

Can someone give me an idea of what kind of performance gain I would
see?  I've tried hunting around for benchmark comparisons but haven't
had success finding any because the processors target much different
markets.

Now for a more Debian specific question.  I read the AMD 64 how-to at
https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html.
 They talk about "the quick way" of running 32-bit binaries on a 64
bit system and installing a "Debian IA32 chroot system."

Can someone tell me why I would do one over the other?

Thanks.


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Re: Marillat's repository is down

[Yannick - Debian/Linux]

Yannick - Debian/Linux a écrit :


Marc F. Clemente a écrit :

How hard is it to be a mirror for the marillat/amd64 stuff on 
cyberspace.ucla.edu?  If 1.5 Mbps is good enough, I can donate some 
space and bandwith.  I already run Apache.  I just need to figure out 
the directory structure, and where to get the files.


Marc



Hi,

I've checked my /var/cache/apt and found those file from marillat :

53f4c71cf1b268059364d587ce3dd143  
libavcodeccvs_3%3a20050427-0.2_amd64.deb

8fa4e81449c4fc37cb584eb9fc2b7560  libbio2jack0_0.7-0.1_amd64.deb
a9d190a684fb854d5bacd56884247a6b  libfaac0_1.24-0.3_amd64.deb
bccf752130cd2749632bae4c2ce92a00  libfaad2-0_2.0.0-0.6_amd64.deb
ba1aa6b515ca7024d692cc33e92ea3dd  liblame0_3.96.1-1_amd64.deb
63a0caf73d81e4bf9738f1330aade38d  libpostproc0_3%3a20050427-0.2_amd64.deb
3f881954007f6c0b74f5040deb64c5e3  
libxvidcore4_2%3a1.1.0-beta2-0.0_amd64.deb

e8fcc448bde7c2960f754ae7bb511cd7  mplayer_1%3a1.0-pre7-0.0_amd64.deb
eeb31818bc0de08ea457721e6e47d398  mplayer-doc_1%3a1.0-pre7-0.0_all.deb

(first number is md5sum if them)

I made them available on ed2k network with this package :
079b21cf8bc1d2938b2d2232f9dd0805  
aMule-cvs20050910-Monolithic_with_Kademlia-Debian_Sarge-Pack_with_wxGTK-2.6.1-amd64.deb.tar 



I can send you this one if you need it to get the marillat file i have.

My idea is : if everybody check is apt cache we maybe can find a lot 
of them and made them available to the world.


Regards,
Yannick



Oops,

I forgot to give the links (using aMule, eMule, ...). Here they are :

ed2k://|file|libavcodeccvs_3%3a20050427-0.2_amd64.deb|1500328|67BC789B21C8BC1CB76536FB9FA7E278|/
ed2k://|file|libbio2jack0_0.7-0.1_amd64.deb|18634|B4C9BBC5F6473CF71908F9044227F799|/
ed2k://|file|libfaac0_1.24-0.3_amd64.deb|55574|6E7AEEF06FEFD6C8305C23E75542C8E0|/
ed2k://|file|libfaad2-0_2.0.0-0.6_amd64.deb|156878|9385650BD531F6BD3677AF001267B34B|/
ed2k://|file|liblame0_3.96.1-1_amd64.deb|145770|A9D6C1A3D943CBB13425845E8E6A2691|/
ed2k://|file|libpostproc0_3%3a20050427-0.2_amd64.deb|23826|0BCCE43555C75E1676381BF3029654EF|/
ed2k://|file|libxvidcore4_2%3a1.1.0-beta2-0.0_amd64.deb|178278|04707AB621904784C57B01BB7448BA46|/
ed2k://|file|mplayer-doc_1%3a1.0-pre7-0.0_all.deb|1391512|9AB0FC41230BC9DA165FFACE2686BF2A|/
ed2k://|file|mplayer_1%3a1.0-pre7-0.0_amd64.deb|2519148|4A69AF3065CD4B2883E01752C8862B63|/

Regards,
Yannick

Dupal Opteron on Sarge

[Steve Dondley]

I'm thinking about purchasing a dual Opteron server to run on Sarge. 
This is only my second server purchase.  My first server runs Debian
Woody on a single Petium 4, 2.8 GHz.

Can someone give me an idea of what kind of performance gain I would
see?  I've tried hunting around for benchmark comparisons but haven't
had success finding any because the processors target much different
markets.

Now for a more Debian specific question.  I read the AMD 64 how-to at
https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html.
 They talk about "the quick way" of running 32-bit binaries on a 64
bit system and installing a "Debian IA32 chroot system."

Can someone tell me why I would do one over the other?

Thanks.


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Dupal Opteron on Sarge

[Steve Dondley]

I'm thinking about purchasing a dual Opteron server to run on Sarge.
This is only my second server purchase.  My first server runs Debian
Woody on a single Petium 4, 2.8 GHz.

Can someone give me an idea of what kind of performance gain I would
see?  I've tried hunting around for benchmark comparisons but haven't
had success finding any because the processors target much different
markets.

Now for a more Debian specific question.  I read the AMD 64 how-to at
https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html.
 They talk about "the quick way" of running 32-bit binaries on a 64
bit system and installing a "Debian IA32 chroot system."

Can someone tell me why I would do one over the other?

Thanks.

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Re: ia32-libs must still be installed when using amd64-archive?

[Adam Skutt]

Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> 
> You install ia32-libs as specified per depends.
FWIW, I did some hacking and got amd64-archive to successfully build
libgcc1, and then installed it with a new version of ia32-libc6 that
Conflicts on ia32-libs.  Everything seem to install ok, and
OpenOffice.org seems to work alright, at the very least.

I can provide patches if desired.

Adam


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Re: util-linux.

[Goswin von Brederlow]

Chris Wakefield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi all.
>
> I've still in a rut with my installation.  I can't seem to get past 
> util-linux:
>
> dpkg -l  util-linux
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: 
> uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name   VersionDescription
> +++-==-===
> iH  util-linux 2.12p-4.0.0.1.pure64   Miscellaneous 
> system 
> utilities
>
>
>
> This package is holding up everything it seems:
>
> # dpkg -i  util-linux_2.12p-7_amd64.deb
> (Reading database ... 142492 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace util-linux 2.12p-4.0.0.1.pure64 (using 
> util-linux_2.12p-7_amd64.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement util-linux ...
> dpkg: error processing util-linux_2.12p-7_amd64.deb (--install):
>  unable to make backup link of `./usr/share/doc/util-linux/README.poeigl.gz' 
> before installing new version: Too many links
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  util-linux_2.12p-7_amd64.deb
>
> Can someone please post perhaps a way of force upgrading of util-linux, or 
> whatever solutions may be at hand?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Wakefield.

Purge and reinstall.

Or unpack manually.

MfG
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Re: http://http.us.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ gone?

[Goswin von Brederlow]

lordSauron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Somewhat related, but not really, (I'm shy about starting new
> threads), I was wondering what mirrors there are for amd64-k8 or
> otherwise amd64 compatible packages.  Right now I'm using the
> following mirrors:

Run apt-setup.

> deb http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ stable main 
> deb-src http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ stable main 
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main 
>
> and if you could tell me where to go to get specifically amd64
> packages I'd be much appreciative!
>
> Also, if you know how I could specify to select from a variety of
> packages (like look at both stable and testing, for instance) I'd love
> to know that as well.  I very new to Linux, so please just bear with
> me.
>
> Have a great day!

This realy belongs to debian-user.

MfG
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Re: Amd64 archive

[Goswin von Brederlow]

Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 12:32:21AM +0200, Ernest jw ter Kuile wrote:
>> On Sunday 11 September 2005 19:03, v0n0 wrote:
>> > Will other updates come for amd64-archive package for applications like
>> > Wine?
>> 
>> ??
>> 
>> This last question is really cryptic. What do you mean by an "amd64-archive 
>> package for applications like Wine" ?
>
> Goswin's amd64-archive package converts i386 debs to amd64 debs and
> creates a local repository for use with apt-get. I think the OP wants to
> know if it might include wine in the future.
>
> Given that it already includes openoffice.org-bin I don't know why he
> hasn't got that running.
>
> Hamish

Just add it to the conffile.

MfG
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Re: ia32-libs must still be installed when using amd64-archive?

[Goswin von Brederlow]

Adam Skutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hey,
> Hopefully someone can clarify something here.
>
> I'm running Debian/amd64 unstable.  I download the 0.2 version of
> amd64-archive and it works great.
>
> However, when I go to install ia32-libc6, it wants to grab lib32gcc1,
> which in turn requires libc6-i386 or ia32-libs.
>
> Is ia32-libs still required?  If not, what do I do here?
>
> Thanks much,
> Adam

You install ia32-libs as specified per depends.

MfG
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Re: dvd+rw-tools and dvdrecord problem / solution

[Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)]

Le 17.09.2005 04:04:00, Will Dyson a écrit :

On 9/16/05, ael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 10:55:56PM -0400, Will Dyson wrote:
> >
> >>I think your use of DVD-RWs is the problem. The dvd+rw-format tool
is
> >>only useful for +RW discs. As you've discovered, a -RW DVD disc is
> >>more like a high-capacity CDRW.
>
> The original version indeed only supported +rw, but -rw has been
fully
> supported for a long time now. But I admit that I have used it only
on
> i386 architecture.

Right. The growisofs program fully supports burning to -rw. However,
the -rw format does not require the same format operation that a +rw
does. Therefor, the dvd+rw-format tool is not useful with -rw discs.


If it doesnt work why can we read the following in the docs:
DVD+RW/+R/-R[W] for Linux

and

Q. What are the dvd+rw-tools for?
A. As implied/already mentionned - to master the DVD media, both +RW/R
   and -R[W]. .

And in the package description:
Description: DVD+-RW/R tools
 This package includes a format utility for DVD+-RW media, a frontend
 to mkisofs for burning DVD+-RW/R and some associated tools.

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Re: Marillat's repository is down

[Yannick - Debian/Linux]

Marc F. Clemente a écrit :

How hard is it to be a mirror for the marillat/amd64 stuff on 
cyberspace.ucla.edu?  If 1.5 Mbps is good enough, I can donate some 
space and bandwith.  I already run Apache.  I just need to figure out 
the directory structure, and where to get the files.


Marc



Hi,

I've checked my /var/cache/apt and found those file from marillat :

53f4c71cf1b268059364d587ce3dd143  libavcodeccvs_3%3a20050427-0.2_amd64.deb
8fa4e81449c4fc37cb584eb9fc2b7560  libbio2jack0_0.7-0.1_amd64.deb
a9d190a684fb854d5bacd56884247a6b  libfaac0_1.24-0.3_amd64.deb
bccf752130cd2749632bae4c2ce92a00  libfaad2-0_2.0.0-0.6_amd64.deb
ba1aa6b515ca7024d692cc33e92ea3dd  liblame0_3.96.1-1_amd64.deb
63a0caf73d81e4bf9738f1330aade38d  libpostproc0_3%3a20050427-0.2_amd64.deb
3f881954007f6c0b74f5040deb64c5e3  libxvidcore4_2%3a1.1.0-beta2-0.0_amd64.deb
e8fcc448bde7c2960f754ae7bb511cd7  mplayer_1%3a1.0-pre7-0.0_amd64.deb
eeb31818bc0de08ea457721e6e47d398  mplayer-doc_1%3a1.0-pre7-0.0_all.deb

(first number is md5sum if them)

I made them available on ed2k network with this package :
079b21cf8bc1d2938b2d2232f9dd0805  
aMule-cvs20050910-Monolithic_with_Kademlia-Debian_Sarge-Pack_with_wxGTK-2.6.1-amd64.deb.tar


I can send you this one if you need it to get the marillat file i have.

My idea is : if everybody check is apt cache we maybe can find a lot of 
them and made them available to the world.


Regards,
Yannick

Re: Upgrading kernel

[antongiulio05]

> > However installation exits with error (and I don't know why cos 
> > error is not returned). I have noticed that kernel 2.6.13pr3 
> > headers is installed, and this has many dependencies...
> 
> linux-kernel-headers has nothing to do with the kernel images in the
> first place. which kernel package did you try to install and whyt error
> did you get? do you have a pristine sarge or sid installation, or did
> you mix up distributions?
> 
> on a plain simple sid system, 
> 
> apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8
> 
> should install you everything you need.

I have tried to install linux-image and linux-headers.

However installing only via: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8

I got this error:

Configuro linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 (2.6.12-6) ...
/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: line 850: ldd: command not found
Failed to create initrd image.
dpkg: errore processando linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 (--configure):
 il sottoprocesso post-installation script ha restituito un codice di errore 9

And so it seems related to missing 'ldd'. What's the ldd-package?

# apt-file search ldd | grep \/ldd
fakechroot: usr/share/doc/fakechroot/examples/ldd.fake.gz
ia32-libs: usr/bin/ldd
ia32-libs: usr/bin/lddlibc4
libc6: usr/bin/ldd



Thanks,
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Re: Marillat's repository is down

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cyberspace.ucla.edu?  If 1.5 Mbps is good enough, I can donate some 
space and bandwith.  I already run Apache.  I just need to figure out 
the directory structure, and where to get the files.


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Re: Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC

[Yannick - Debian/Linux]

Hi,

I've a different chip but with the same driver as you : it seems broken 
on the debian kernel 2.6.8, try another one. I've no problem getting 
sound with other kernels (provided by debian or kernel.org).


Regards
Yannick

Dean Hamstead a écrit :


2.6.8-11-amd64-k8

straight from the mirror

Dean

Frederik Schueler wrote:


Hello,

On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 09:45:24PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:


any ideas? this kernel is a tad old - although its straight out of
'unstable'




Which kernel version are you using? does it work with
linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 (or what your flavour is)?

Best regards
Frederik Schueler

Re: Upgrading kernel

[Frederik Schueler]

Hello,

On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:57:30PM +0200, antongiulio05 wrote:
> However installation exits with error (and I don't know why cos 
> error is not returned). I have noticed that kernel 2.6.13pr3 
> headers is installed, and this has many dependencies...

linux-kernel-headers has nothing to do with the kernel images in the
first place. which kernel package did you try to install and whyt error
did you get? do you have a pristine sarge or sid installation, or did
you mix up distributions?

on a plain simple sid system, 

apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8

should install you everything you need.


Best regards
Frederik Schueler

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Re: Upgrading kernel

[antongiulio05]

> I believe the kernel packages have been renamed from kernel-image-...
> to linux-image-...; you might want to give that a try. There is a
> package called "linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8", at least. :-)

Thanks. I didn't know it, my last update was in July...

However installation exits with error (and I don't know why cos error is not 
returned). I have noticed that kernel 2.6.13pr3 headers is installed, and this 
has many dependencies...

Is there a solution?

Giulio


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Re: amd-64 vs Pure-64

[Goswin von Brederlow]

Stefano Simonucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 23:26 +0200, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote:
>> Thank's Stefano,
>> 
>> I will try to reproduce it soon.
>> 
>> It's surprise me if it's really so easy and no package for amd64.
>> 
>> Leo
>
> The openoffice 1.9 is unstable (beta). Effectively openoffice crashes
> sometimes. I don't know if the openoffice 1.1 can be recompiled.
>
> Stefano

OOo 1.1 is in no way 64bit clean and won't work that way at all.

OOo 2.0 had 64bit support in mind but previous reports have always
been of remaining bugs. Maybe they are getting closer.

MfG
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Re: TODO for amd64 arch to be included officially in debian.

[Goswin von Brederlow]

Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 09:30:58PM +0200, Marco Amadori wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I would like to know if there is a to do list to help out in the inclusion 
>> of 
>> amd64 as a supported debian architecture.
>> 
>> I'm using this unofficial arch for more than one years and found really 
>> complete, hurra for the developers who gave us this shiny debian, and I do 
>> not see the blocking rocks who do not let it have the word "official" in it:
>> 
>> - security fixes sistem are up and running
>> - debian-installer builds
>> - automatic builds are working
>> 
>> What is missing?
>
> - Move ftpmaster to its final location
> - Implement the archive split
> - Add amd64 architecture
>
>
> Kurt

All of which are out of the hands of mere mortals I'm afraid.

MfG
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Re: Upgrading kernel

[Michael Haupt]

Giulio,

On 9/17/05, antonio giulio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In apt-tree I can't find kernel 2.6.12/13... How can I get an update
> for kernel? Only via-source? In apt-tree I can't find kernel 2.6.12/13
> source code too...

I believe the kernel packages have been renamed from kernel-image-...
to linux-image-...; you might want to give that a try. There is a
package called "linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8", at least. :-)

Michael

Upgrading kernel

[antonio giulio]

Hi,

I have kernel:

$ uname -a
Linux mybox 2.6.11-9-amd64-k8 #1 Wed Jun 29 17:33:01 CEST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux

but I cannot open cd/dvd or burning cos I get '/dev/sg0-nightmare
permission denied' and seem don't exist solution for it, and so I
wanna try with new kernel versions using udev.

In apt-tree I can't find kernel 2.6.12/13... How can I get an update
for kernel? Only via-source? In apt-tree I can't find kernel 2.6.12/13
source code too...

Pls help me,
thanks
Giulio

Re: Realplayer ?

[Tim T.]

On 9/17/05, Tim Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
maybe try mplayer with the realplay codecs?tim
that's one option, that I'll need to investigate anyway..
Anyway; I managed to get decent sound quality: I installed realplayer 8 wich I found in a legacy 
directory somewhere. 

 Anybody understand why realplayer 10 would have problems, where realplayer 8 doesn't?

TimT.
Tim T. wrote:>On 9/16/05, Tobias Krais <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi Tim,>one thing I miss is being able to listen to the bbc, which uses>>>realplayer..>>>I've googled, but I can't locate a realplayer or clone for Amd-64;
>>>tried building>>>the Helixplayer, but that turned out to be a bit more work than I am>>>willing to>>>invest at this time.>>Totem won't play: apparently, this has problems with the cook codec
>>So can any one suggest a workable alternative ?I use Realplayer in chroot to listen to BBC. It work quite well.Good Luck!
Thanks for the tip.. unfortunately, I get a lot of drops and crackles.. Not>sure what I did wrong>Let's review:>- created chroot; following the ubuntu howto at
>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&page=1&pp=10>(This system is ubuntu based...Somethings were easier to configure that way)
>>- Downloaded realplayer 10 from the realplayer site: converted the rpm to>deb,installed the deb>- created a symbolic link as specified in the howto above>- started realplayer realplay
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/listenagain/monday/rams/1930.ram>>And listen to a lot of dropouts, and I don't mean the cast ;-(>(Audio system here is alsa based, on a an Acer Aspire 5024 Wlmi. Not sure
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Re: Realplayer ?

[Tim Matthews]

maybe try mplayer with the realplay codecs?

tim

Tim T. wrote:


On 9/16/05, Tobias Krais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Hi Tim,

   


one thing I miss is being able to listen to the bbc, which uses
realplayer..
I've googled, but I can't locate a realplayer or clone for Amd-64;
tried building
the Helixplayer, but that turned out to be a bit more work than I am
willing to
invest at this time.

Totem won't play: apparently, this has problems with the cook codec

So can any one suggest a workable alternative ?
 


I use Realplayer in chroot to listen to BBC. It work quite well.

Good Luck!
   





Thanks for the tip.. unfortunately, I get a lot of drops and crackles.. Not 
sure what I did wrong

Let's review:
- created chroot; following the ubuntu howto at 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&page=1&pp=10

(This system is ubuntu based...Somethings were easier to configure that way)

- Downloaded realplayer 10 from the realplayer site: converted the rpm to 
deb,installed the deb

- created a symbolic link as specified in the howto above
- started realplayer realplay 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/listenagain/monday/rams/1930.ram


And listen to a lot of dropouts, and I don't mean the cast ;-(
(Audio system here is alsa based, on a an Acer Aspire 5024 Wlmi. Not sure 
what other information is 
relevant) 


Anybody have any idea ?

TimT.

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Re: Realplayer ?

[Tim T.]

On 9/16/05, Tobias Krais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Tim,>   one thing I miss is being able to listen to the bbc, which uses> realplayer..>   I've googled, but I can't locate a realplayer or clone for Amd-64;> tried building>   the Helixplayer, but that turned out to be a bit more work than I am
> willing to>   invest at this time.>>   Totem won't play: apparently, this has problems with the cook codec>>   So can any one suggest a workable alternative ?I use Realplayer in chroot to listen to BBC. It work quite well.
Good Luck!

Thanks for the tip.. unfortunately, I get a lot of drops and crackles.. Not sure what I did wrong
Let's review:
- created chroot; following the ubuntu howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&page=1&pp=10
 (This system is ubuntu based...Somethings were easier to configure that way)

- Downloaded realplayer 10 from the realplayer site: converted the rpm to deb,installed the deb
- created a symbolic link as specified in the howto above
- started realplayer realplay http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/listenagain/monday/rams/1930.ram

And listen to a lot of dropouts, and I don't mean the cast ;-(
(Audio system here is alsa based, on a an Acer Aspire 5024 Wlmi. Not sure what other information is 
relevant) 

Anybody have any idea ?

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Re: Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC

[Dean Hamstead]

2.6.8-11-amd64-k8

straight from the mirror

Dean

Frederik Schueler wrote:

Hello,

On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 09:45:24PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:


any ideas? this kernel is a tad old - although its straight out of
'unstable'



Which kernel version are you using? does it work with
linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 (or what your flavour is)?

Best regards
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Re: Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC

[Frederik Schueler]

Hello,

On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 09:45:24PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:
> any ideas? this kernel is a tad old - although its straight out of
> 'unstable'

Which kernel version are you using? does it work with
linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 (or what your flavour is)?

Best regards
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Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC

[Dean Hamstead]

ok huray video works
on to sound

this board has an Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC which in lspci is
CK804 AC97 audio codec. the realtek site claims this is supported with
snd-intel8x0

alsa-conf shows up nothing, modprobing it works but the card isnt detected

any ideas? this kernel is a tad old - although its straight out of
'unstable'

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Re: building nvidia drivers

[Dean Hamstead]

works with xorg rather than xfree

also the 'nv' driver over the 'nvidia' driver doesnt have
good results. im using a 6600gt pci-e

Dean

Simon Guerrero wrote:

This worked for me:

This worked for me for kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic.

Good luck

Simon




==

Make sure the following are in /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64 stable main non-free contrib
deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64 unstable main non-free contrib

Make sure you've got all the kernel sources - all these are needed as 
they have symbolic links in them.


$ apt-get install kernel-kbuild-2.6-3 
kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-generic kernel-headers-2.6.8-11 
nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-kernel-common


Get the module assistant:

$ apt-get module-assistant

Set up the appropriate kernel sources ready for the module assistant:

$ m-a -i prepare

Build the kernel module:

$ m-a a-i -i -t -f nvidia-kernel

Now get the other packages needed for getting the nvidia drivers working:

$ apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev

If you haven't got xfree86 installed, install it:

$ apt-get install xserver-xfree86

Otherwise, reconfigure it:

$ dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

Select 'nvidia' for the driver when prompted. Enter whatever you want 
for the card name, and just press 'return' for the Bus Identifier and 
for amount of RAM.


All other options depend on what you want. Best bet is to select 
'simple' for the monitor configuration!


Dean Hamstead wrote:


hi all

just did a clean install on my shiny new amd64

before i post mboard specs (im running on a dfi lanparty ut sli-d)
can someone shed some light on why i cant built the nvidia drivers
i followed the instructions on alioth it didnt work ;)

now for some details (as root)...

mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8# MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4" 
make-kpkg --append-to-version -11-amd64-k8 modules_image

/usr/bin/make EXTRAVERSION=-11-amd64-k8-11-amd64-k8   \
 ARCH=x86_64 oldconfig
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8'
  HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/mconf.o
scripts/kconfig/mconf.c:91: error: static declaration of 
'current_menu' follows non-static declaration
scripts/kconfig/lkc.h:63: error: previous declaration of 
'current_menu' was here

make[2]: *** [scripts/kconfig/mconf.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [oldconfig] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8'
make: *** [stamp-kernel-configure] Error 2
mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8#

bummer nothing!!

heres my sources.list, im up to date (apt-get update; apt-get upgrade)

mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main

deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-amd64/debian/ unstable 
main contrib non-free
deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-amd64/debian/ stable 
main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ unstable 
main contrib non-free


deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8#


Dean






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Re: building nvidia drivers

[Dean Hamstead]

any reason for xfree over xorg?


Simon Guerrero wrote:

This worked for me:

This worked for me for kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic.

Good luck

Simon




==

Make sure the following are in /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64 stable main non-free contrib
deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64 unstable main non-free contrib

Make sure you've got all the kernel sources - all these are needed as 
they have symbolic links in them.


$ apt-get install kernel-kbuild-2.6-3 
kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-generic kernel-headers-2.6.8-11 
nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-kernel-common


Get the module assistant:

$ apt-get module-assistant

Set up the appropriate kernel sources ready for the module assistant:

$ m-a -i prepare

Build the kernel module:

$ m-a a-i -i -t -f nvidia-kernel

Now get the other packages needed for getting the nvidia drivers working:

$ apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev

If you haven't got xfree86 installed, install it:

$ apt-get install xserver-xfree86

Otherwise, reconfigure it:

$ dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

Select 'nvidia' for the driver when prompted. Enter whatever you want 
for the card name, and just press 'return' for the Bus Identifier and 
for amount of RAM.


All other options depend on what you want. Best bet is to select 
'simple' for the monitor configuration!


Dean Hamstead wrote:


hi all

just did a clean install on my shiny new amd64

before i post mboard specs (im running on a dfi lanparty ut sli-d)
can someone shed some light on why i cant built the nvidia drivers
i followed the instructions on alioth it didnt work ;)

now for some details (as root)...

mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8# MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4" 
make-kpkg --append-to-version -11-amd64-k8 modules_image

/usr/bin/make EXTRAVERSION=-11-amd64-k8-11-amd64-k8   \
 ARCH=x86_64 oldconfig
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8'
  HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/mconf.o
scripts/kconfig/mconf.c:91: error: static declaration of 
'current_menu' follows non-static declaration
scripts/kconfig/lkc.h:63: error: previous declaration of 
'current_menu' was here

make[2]: *** [scripts/kconfig/mconf.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [oldconfig] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8'
make: *** [stamp-kernel-configure] Error 2
mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8#

bummer nothing!!

heres my sources.list, im up to date (apt-get update; apt-get upgrade)

mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main

deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-amd64/debian/ unstable 
main contrib non-free
deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-amd64/debian/ stable 
main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ unstable 
main contrib non-free


deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8#


Dean






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Re: Re: amd-64 vs Pure-64

[Marc F. Clemente]

I tried building ooo2 but was unsuccessful.  I used version 1.9.125. 
Eventually the build failed at:


Making: ../../../unxlngx4.pro/slo/vbaapplication.obj

This is the same problem reported in this message:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/09/msg00303.html

If anybody can get past this, please post or let me know.

Thanks,

Marc


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Re: building nvidia drivers

[Simon Guerrero]

This worked for me:

This worked for me for kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic.

Good luck

Simon




==

Make sure the following are in /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64 stable main non-free contrib
deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64 unstable main non-free contrib

Make sure you've got all the kernel sources - all these are needed as 
they have symbolic links in them.


$ apt-get install kernel-kbuild-2.6-3 
kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-generic kernel-headers-2.6.8-11 
nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-kernel-common


Get the module assistant:

$ apt-get module-assistant

Set up the appropriate kernel sources ready for the module assistant:

$ m-a -i prepare

Build the kernel module:

$ m-a a-i -i -t -f nvidia-kernel

Now get the other packages needed for getting the nvidia drivers working:

$ apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev

If you haven't got xfree86 installed, install it:

$ apt-get install xserver-xfree86

Otherwise, reconfigure it:

$ dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

Select 'nvidia' for the driver when prompted. Enter whatever you want 
for the card name, and just press 'return' for the Bus Identifier and 
for amount of RAM.


All other options depend on what you want. Best bet is to select 
'simple' for the monitor configuration!


Dean Hamstead wrote:


hi all

just did a clean install on my shiny new amd64

before i post mboard specs (im running on a dfi lanparty ut sli-d)
can someone shed some light on why i cant built the nvidia drivers
i followed the instructions on alioth it didnt work ;)

now for some details (as root)...

mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8# MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4" 
make-kpkg --append-to-version -11-amd64-k8 modules_image

/usr/bin/make EXTRAVERSION=-11-amd64-k8-11-amd64-k8   \
 ARCH=x86_64 oldconfig
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8'
  HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/mconf.o
scripts/kconfig/mconf.c:91: error: static declaration of 
'current_menu' follows non-static declaration
scripts/kconfig/lkc.h:63: error: previous declaration of 
'current_menu' was here

make[2]: *** [scripts/kconfig/mconf.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [oldconfig] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8'
make: *** [stamp-kernel-configure] Error 2
mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8#

bummer nothing!!

heres my sources.list, im up to date (apt-get update; apt-get upgrade)

mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main

deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-amd64/debian/ unstable 
main contrib non-free
deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-amd64/debian/ stable 
main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ unstable 
main contrib non-free


deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8#


Dean



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building nvidia drivers

[Dean Hamstead]

hi all

just did a clean install on my shiny new amd64

before i post mboard specs (im running on a dfi lanparty ut sli-d)
can someone shed some light on why i cant built the nvidia drivers
i followed the instructions on alioth it didnt work ;)

now for some details (as root)...

mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8# MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4" 
make-kpkg --append-to-version -11-amd64-k8 modules_image

/usr/bin/make EXTRAVERSION=-11-amd64-k8-11-amd64-k8   \
 ARCH=x86_64 oldconfig
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8'
  HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/mconf.o
scripts/kconfig/mconf.c:91: error: static declaration of 'current_menu' 
follows non-static declaration
scripts/kconfig/lkc.h:63: error: previous declaration of 'current_menu' 
was here

make[2]: *** [scripts/kconfig/mconf.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [oldconfig] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8'
make: *** [stamp-kernel-configure] Error 2
mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8#

bummer nothing!!

heres my sources.list, im up to date (apt-get update; apt-get upgrade)

mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main

deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-amd64/debian/ unstable 
main contrib non-free
deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main 
contrib non-free
#deb-src http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ unstable main 
contrib non-free


deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
mele:/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8#


Dean
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