Re: Mirror list

2005-10-30 Thread lordSauron
On 10/29/05, Mark Nipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 29 Oct 2005, lordSauron wrote:
  Yeah, you really should host a mirror - more mirrors means more places
  to distribute the bandwidth load.

Working on it currently.  I will notify all the
 appropriate people once I'm done with the initial rsync and am
 ready for the push part of the mirror.

Cool.

  Tell me one thing though: is this OC-12 line into your house or
  workplace???  I've been trying for ages to get a ISP that'll let me
  host with even a bloody cable broadband connexion, however, since my
  area was one of the first to be wired with cable broadband, they're
  not going to re-wire it until hell freezes over (not the one in
  Alaska).

OC-12 at home...  Wouldn't that be nice!  No, that's
 definitely at work (Texas AM University).  There is no way I
 could afford the cost of that OC-12 personally.  An OC-12 is
 roughly 622.08Mbps (either direction) while I only have a 5Mbps
 down/768Kbps up cable connection at home.  I think we currently
 pay around $120,000USD for the OC-12 at work.

A month or a year?  That's an insane connection rate.. you've probably
got a fibre LAN going in the building, right?  Otherwise you'd be
somewhat disabled by anything less than gigabit ethernet.  They'll let
you host that at your workplace though...

Yes, Texas would be in my neck of the woods (I'm in California, so not
*that* close, but closer than all the many German mirrors).

Personally speaking, hosting anything of any size (this
 mirror for example) on a home connection is next to useless.  I
 feel for you in looking for a decent provider in the boondocks.
 I have a friend in Northwest Washington who ended up going with
 DirecPC/Direcway (http://www.direcway.com/) because that was
 really his only option.  He says the speed is decent (equivalent
 to slower DSL or cable modem service) but that the latency is
 pretty high.  That's to be expected when the first and last leg
 of every route adds an additional 40,000 miles or so to the total
 distance!

But I certainly wouldn't want to host any high traffic
 services on such a connection.  It would be much better to lease
 a dedicated server elsewhere for this type of service, although
 prices are pretty high going this route too.  Unmetered 20Mbps
 service starts around $239USD to give you an idea.

If only I had the raw, untamed $$$

  Sorry, ISPs are a major sore-spot of mine...  yeah, you should
  certainly make an effort to host a mirror.  What locale would your
  mirror be in?  the US?  I think that there's a lack of mirrors in the
  US personally...  I would love to remedy that, but as I said before,

The mirror will be in Texas.  As long as you have a
 decent connection at home, your downlink will most likely be
 saturated from this end.

Yeah, with my current mirrors, I get about 56K on average.  Not that great

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Re: 32 bit firefox on amd64 system

2005-10-30 Thread Jochen Sprickerhof
Hi Nathan,

* Nathan O. Siemers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-10-30 03:30]:
 Related to recent threads (installation of flash on firefox, etc).  I've 
 got a debootstrap ia32 system installed in /emul.  The intent is to 
 install firefox (i386) from tarballs at mozilla.org and use it without 
 chrooting.

I used the amd64-archive package (still the 0.2 version) to install the
32Bit firefox.

 I got past an initial missing libgtk-x11 library by installing it in the 
 /emul area (by chrooting into the /emul/ia32-linux area and running apt) 
 and running ldconfig.
 
 The next issue may be tricker - firefox/gtk seems to be looking in an 
 exact location for pango libraries, finding the x86-64 versions, and 
 failing:
 
 (firefox-bin:18830): Pango-WARNING **: 
 /usr/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so: cannot open shared 
 object file: No such file or directory
 
 Failed to load Pango module for id: 'BasicScriptEngineFc'
 
 (firefox-bin:18830): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion 
 `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
 
 (firefox-bin:18830): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_engine_shape_shape: 
 assertion `PANGO_IS_FONT (font)' failed
 
 NOTE: /usr/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so exists on the amd64 
 host system.

Pango has a librarypath of it's own, so you have to change this. First
you need the 32Bit Pango libraries (libpango1.0-0 I think) and it's
dependencies. Next you have to make a new modulesfile, I think I've just
copied and changed the /etc/pango/pango.modules to point to the right
ones. But there is also a pango-querymodules which could generate a new
one, but I don't remember how. I placed the new files in the firefox dir
btw. but that's not necessary.
Next you have to make a pangorc with the two lines:

--%--
[Pango]
ModuleFiles=/path/to/pango.modules
--%--

and the last thing is to get firefox use this pangorc by doing a 

export PANGO_RC_FILE=/path/to/pangorc

before you start it. I did it by adding it into
/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox.

 I'm considering some hacking like:  symlinking /emul/ia32-linux to the 
 root directory of the ia32 distribution, modifying ld.so.conf (ia32) to 
 point only to these symlinked library areas, and running ldconfig (ia32 
 chroot).  I have a funny feeling this is not going to work.  Anyone with 
 experience with these types of problems: any advice is appreciated.  If 
 I have any success I'll let folks know.
 
 Nathan

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Re: JRE

2005-10-30 Thread lee_martin
On Friday 28 October 2005 09:08 pm, mikepolniak wrote:
 On 16:23 Thu 27 Oct , lee_martin wrote:
  Hi friends, I'm pretty sure I've seen a JRE somewhere, I'm almost
  positive it was from Sun, but I can't seem to find it there now..Could
  someone please be so kind as to educate me please on the whereabouts of
  this package please.

  I d/l from here:

 ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian/pool/n
on-free/j/j2se1.4-amd64/

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply, it is much appreciated...

Lee


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Server syncing crashed ?

2005-10-30 Thread Hans
Hi all,

I have two questions:
First, 
I just wondered, why the two servers ftp.de.debian/.. and 
ftp2.de.debian/ are not identical. In my opinion that should be the 
same contents.

But on ftp2.de.debian I missed the whole kernel brunch with version 
2.6.12... Only 2.6.8 was found. I suppose, there would be a reason, 
does it ?

Second,

since in 32-bit the kernel with version 2.6.14... is available, I wondered, 
why in amd64 still the latest kernel is version 2.6.12. Maybe it is not 
finished ? Wil the next version be 2.6.13 or will it be 2.6.14, too ?

Best regards

Hans


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Re: JRE

2005-10-30 Thread Marcin Dębicki
lee_martin kiedys napisal:

 On Friday 28 October 2005 09:08 pm, mikepolniak wrote:
 On 16:23 Thu 27 Oct , lee_martin wrote:
  Hi friends, I'm pretty sure I've seen a JRE somewhere, I'm almost
  positive it was from Sun, but I can't seem to find it there now..Could
  someone please be so kind as to educate me please on the whereabouts of
  this package please.

  I d/l from here:


ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian/pool/n
on-free/j/j2se1.4-amd64/
 
 Thank you very much for taking the time to reply, it is much
 appreciated...
 
 Lee
 
 
Also you can add 
deb http://tamir.nooms.de/ubuntu/ hoary restricted 
to sources and you can get Sun JRE/JDK 1.5 but it doesn't contain Mozilla
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Eclipse

2005-10-30 Thread Marcin Dębicki
Can someone explain me why Eclipse depends on gij not java-virtual-machine
or java-runtime. I can get Eclipse working with Sun/Blackdown Java too

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Re: udev hotplug

2005-10-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 06:23:29PM +0200, Albert Dengg wrote:
 You could also edit udev config to omit the modules...
 so that they are loaded by module-init-tools again...

Or change the order that they start in /etc/rcS.d. It's OK to remove /
rename / add links there, as that directory is considered configuration.

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nvidia drivers not working in linux-2.6.14

2005-10-30 Thread trango
Hi friends,
I've just installed the new kernel as I heard (I think) it solved the
problems with smp in amd64 with the clock and everything went
completely normal  until i recompiled the nvidia module for this new
kernel to startx. it doesn't load the module saying telling me about
an inexpected symbol.
I followed the usual instructions:
- make-kpkg modules_image
- dpkg -i nvidia_blabla.deb
- (i even tried uninstalling the previous module although i was sure
it wasnt going to do any better)
- (i also tried reinstalling nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev)

and i didn't make it. does anyone know a solution?

thank you


trango



Re: nvidia drivers not working in linux-2.6.14

2005-10-30 Thread Dean Hamstead

did you apply all the patches from the nvidia support forums?

youll need to
apt-get source nvidia-graphics-drviers
(from rdonald's stuff)
build them and install
then go to /usr/src/ and unpack the nvidia-kernel-souce
cd into the directory
then grab all the patches and patch with 'patch -p1 patch.patch'
re tar all that back to the original file name
then run module-assistant etc

there may be a way to tell module-assistant not to untar your
file but anyway.

Dean

trango wrote:

Hi friends,
I've just installed the new kernel as I heard (I think) it solved the
problems with smp in amd64 with the clock and everything went
completely normal  until i recompiled the nvidia module for this new
kernel to startx. it doesn't load the module saying telling me about
an inexpected symbol.
I followed the usual instructions:
- make-kpkg modules_image
- dpkg -i nvidia_blabla.deb
- (i even tried uninstalling the previous module although i was sure
it wasnt going to do any better)
- (i also tried reinstalling nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev)

and i didn't make it. does anyone know a solution?

thank you


trango





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Re: Eclipse

2005-10-30 Thread Marc Petit-Huguenin
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Dalibor Topic wrote:
 Marcin Dębicki wrote:
 
 Can someone explain me why Eclipse depends on gij not
 java-virtual-machine
 or java-runtime.
 
 
 
 In order to move into main, eclipse needs to build and run with free
 software in main. gcj/gij are in main, the proprietary software you
 mentioned is not.

How a virtual package can be considered, as you said, as a prorietary
software?

http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt

 
 cheers,
 dalibor topic
 
 


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