Re: Solved: Problem loggin in via ssh AND ldap

2005-11-23 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Heinrich Rebehn wrote:
 Heinrich Rebehn wrote:
 
Hi all,

this is my first post to this list. I searched the archives for this
problem but could not find anything.

I installed Debian Sarge on an Athlon64 3000+ from amd64.debian.net.
I configured the machine to use ldap for authentication and
automounting. This setup is working fine on our i386 machines running Sarge.
Relevant packages installed:
autofs-ldap4.1.3+4.1.4bet LDAP map support for autofs
ldap-utils 2.2.23-8   OpenLDAP utilities
libldap-2.2-7  2.2.23-8   OpenLDAP libraries
libldap2   2.1.30-8   OpenLDAP libraries
libnss-ldap238-1  NSS module for using LDAP as a naminservic
ssh3.8.1p1-8.sarg Secure rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement(OpenSSH)

The following things work:
- login as root (localuser) or rebehn (ldap user) via console
- login as root via ssh

The following does *not* work:
- login as rebehn via ssh

/var/log/auth.log shows:

sshd[17022]: Illegal user rebehn from :::134.102.176.10
sshd[17022]: (pam_unix) check pass; user unknown
sshd[17022]: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0
tty=ssh ruser= rhost=bremerhaven.ant.uni-bremen.de
sshd[17022]: error: PAM: User not known to the underlying authentication
module for illegal user rebehn from bremerhaven.ant.uni-bremen.de
sshd[17022]: Failed keyboard-interactive/pam for illegal user rebehn
from :::134.102.176.10 port 57494 ssh2

getent is working:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # getent passwd rebehn
rebehn:crypted pwd:232:1020:Heinrich Rebehn:/home/rebehn:/bin/bash


How does all this fit together? Why do getent and login via console work
whereas login via ssh does not?
It cannot be a ldap problem because i can login as rebehn via console.
It also cannot be a ssh problem because i can login as root via ssh.

I did not change any of the pam config files.

Can anyone help? Need more info?

 
 
 Problem solved. A simple reboot did the trick. Normally a reboot after
 system changes is only rquired with another widely used OS ;-)
 
 Nevertheless i am happy now :-)
 
 Sorry for the noise,
 
 Heinrich
 
 
Update: I was able to reproduce the problem with a new install.
After installing libnss-ldap and configuring /etc/nsswitch.com to use
ldap, one has to do a 'pkill -HUP sshd'.
Just for the records.

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Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Soenke von Stamm
Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2005 04:30 schrieb Hamish Moffatt:
 Also, don't forget swap. RAID1 is good for that too.

RAID1 for swap? What use would that be? With hot swappable disks perheaps? 
RAID0 would be faster and reliability is not an issue - if one disk dies, 
loss of swapped RAM is not the real issue. Better yet is setting up two swap 
partitions with same size (one on each disk) and giving them the same 
priority - this is the same as RAID0, only there is one software layer less 
involved, thus faster/ less CPU intensive.

Sönke



Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 11:26:36AM +0100, Soenke von Stamm wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2005 04:30 schrieb Hamish Moffatt:

 Also, don't forget swap. RAID1 is good for that too.

 RAID1 for swap? What use would that be?

If you are trying to construct a system that will survive a disk
failure, you need swap to be redundant, too. Else programs that have
swapped pages to the wrong disk will die when they need those pages
again.

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2005-11-23 Thread Mark McBride
My notebook has crashed again this time the hdd 
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Re: Problem with NICs on Amd64 installer

2005-11-23 Thread David Goodenough
On Friday 18 November 2005 16:48, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 10:08:40AM +, David Goodenough wrote:
  Of course I could not do an lspci with the installer, as it is not
  present (why, it would be so useful), so I used Knoppix instead.
 
  The raid card is:
 
  1044:a511 RAID controller Adaptec (formerly DPT) SmartRAID V Controller
  rev 1
 
  and the network cards:-
 
  14e4:1640 Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5704.
 
  With your driver in exprt mode it correctly identified the cards and the
  drivers that were needed for them, but said they could not be loaded.

 Hmm, well the raid card appears to be supported by the i2o drivers, so
 perhaps if you manually modprobe those from console 2 it would work.  I
 haven't worked with i2o myself, but I know I included them on my
 installer cd.

 ie: drivers/message/i2o/pci.c:{PCI_DEVICE(PCI_VENDOR_ID_DPT, 0xa511)}

Len,

I tried loading this manually (I notice in expert mode that there is a message
saying that it needed this driver but could not find it) but it does not 
appear to be there.  My guess (but only a guess) is that it is not in the
initrd image.  It certainly is not in the 
/lib/modules/2.6.12.../kernel/drivers/scsi directoryat the time that it
comes to load the CD driver.

David


 As for the network, those might be among the broadcoms that require the
 bcm5700 driver instead of the tg3 driver.  That one is not included in
 the kernel at all, but has to be installed from the bcm5700-source
 package after installing.  Insert a more standard NIC to do the install
 with until you can get the broadcom working I guess.

 Len Sorensen


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Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 12:30:45PM +0100, Soenke von Stamm wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2005 12:16 schrieb Lionel Elie Mamane:
  If you are trying to construct a system that will survive a disk
  failure, you need swap to be redundant, too. Else programs that have
  swapped pages to the wrong disk will die when they need those pages
  again.
 
 That's what I suggested with With hot swappable disks perheaps? 

I think all SATA is hot-swappable...?

Admittedly not everyone will need the system to not even crash if a disk
dies. But since you're RAID1ing the rest of the system, might as well
add the swap too. With modern RAM prices, hopefully you're hardly using
the swap anyway.

Hamish
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taskset on amd64

2005-11-23 Thread Ron Owens
I am trying to get a process to run on the second CPU. 



I do :



taskset -p  0x0002 2170



but it returns:



pid 2170's current affinity mask: 3

pid 2170's new affinity mask: 3



i.e. it doesn't change its affinity... 



Is this a bug or is there another way to handle processor affinity?-- ___Ron Owens


Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Dave Ewart
On Wednesday, 23.11.2005 at 23:53 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 [...] With modern RAM prices, hopefully you're hardly using the swap
 anyway.

Even with lots of RAM, performance can be improved by having swap of
course.  Even if it's rarely used.

Dave.
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Re: Why are only 2.2 or 2.4 kernels available to me?

2005-11-23 Thread Jo Shields

Craig Hagerman wrote:


Hi,

I have just done a reinstall of my debian system. I did a net install
using a chroot from within a Ubuntu amd64 live cd. uname -r gives me:
2.6.10-5-amd64-generic

I want to install a different kernel in order to install the nvidia
driver. I tried following the instructions on
http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html but
none of the (4) methods works. I need a less-new kernel, or compile my
own kernel.

I decided to compile my own kernel using information found here:
http://www.debianuniverse.com/readonline/chapter/21

However, apt-cache search kernel-source only gives me options for
older 2.2 or 2.4 kernels. My sources.list is OK. Why on earth would
the only kernels available to me be 2.2 or 2.4?

Craig

 


You're using Woody (Debian 3.0, obsolete as of quite a long time ago)?

AMD64 debian doesn't even have 2.4, let alone 2.2

Why not do a proper install with a Debian amd64 install CD?


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Problems upgrading ia32-libs in sid: conflicts with ia32-libs-gtk?

2005-11-23 Thread Michelasso
Hello everybody,
today when I have tried to do an upgrade of my sid I got the following error:



aquila:/home/user# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  arts libarts1-dev libartsc0 libartsc0-dev
The following packages will be upgraded:
  ia32-libs
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
4 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/9366kB of archives.
After unpacking 73.7kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
Reading package fields... Done
Reading package status... Done
Retrieving bug reports... Done
(Reading database ... 157784 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace ia32-libs 1.4 (using .../ia32-libs_1.5_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement ia32-libs ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_1.5_amd64.deb
(--unpack):
  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib32', which is also in package ia32-libs-gtk
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_1.5_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


I had installed some time ago ia32-libs-gtk_7_amd64.deb from Ubuntu to
have Acrobat Reader working without chrooting.

Any suggestion? Should I remove ia32-libs-gtk and then reinstall it to
solve this problem or is this a kind of bug of this version of
ia32-libs?



Re: Why are only 2.2 or 2.4 kernels available to me?

2005-11-23 Thread Craig Hagerman
On 11/23/05, Jo Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You're using Woody (Debian 3.0, obsolete as of quite a long time ago)?

 AMD64 debian doesn't even have 2.4, let alone 2.2

I don't think so. As I said, I did a net install from a chroot, like this:

% apt-get install debootstrap
% debootstrap sid /mnt/debian http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64
 etc. etc.

uname -rm tells me:
2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64

So I AM running a 2.6 kernel. The weird thing is that there are no
OTHER 2.6 kernels appearing in apt for installation.


 Why not do a proper install with a Debian amd64 install CD?

Because I already had an Ubuntu amd64 live CD burned for
troubleshooting, meanign it was easier to do a net install from a
chroot instead of downloading, burning and booting an install CD. I
would have assumed that the system would be the same. Further, I don't
think that there IS an install CD for sid ... just for sarge. The
links on:
https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html
 for sid point to an install CD for testing (etch) not unstable (sid).

But... perhaps I should start over with the install CD. It is VERY
weird that no 2.6 kernel-sources are showing up for me.

Craig



Re: Why are only 2.2 or 2.4 kernels available to me?

2005-11-23 Thread Craig Hagerman
On 11/23/05, Aethon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The package names have changed, try linux-source.

  Aethon


Arrrggg..!! THAT explains it. I have been hunting all over the
internet and all the instructions I come across seem to be talking
about kernel-sources  none I read mentioned the change. Thanks. I
will try that instead.

Craig

PS - big thanks for the quick response!



Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Alexander Nagel
Am Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:50:13 +0100 schrieb Jack Malmostoso:

 Hi there list,
 
 I am planning to buy me a new system based on an AMD64 X2 3800+ and an
 ASUS A8N-E motherboard.
 
Hi,

Be careful with newer ASUS boards. I have a K8V SE Deluxe and it sucks. I
don't know for your board. But if ASUS build it with the same
effort, good night. 
(Problems with BIOS, disk, NIC, etc) Read the ASUS forum
first.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/bbs.aspx?SLanguage=en-usmodel=A8N-E

Of course probably there are problems with other boards. 
It's just advice.

greets
Alex


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Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Soenke von Stamm
Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2005 13:53 schrieb Hamish Moffatt:
 I think all SATA is hot-swappable...?

Nope. Only SATA2 and only if the driver really supports it of course.

 Admittedly not everyone will need the system to not even crash if a disk
 dies. But since you're RAID1ing the rest of the system, might as well
 add the swap too. With modern RAM prices, hopefully you're hardly using
 the swap anyway.

But IF it's used, it has to be as fast as possible on a high-load server - 
otherwise you'll have a breakdown (as load further increases) very easily.


 Sönke



Nice server board for AMD64/EM64T?

2005-11-23 Thread Sven Mueller
Hi.

I'm going to replace a server (keeps crashing due to some unknown reason
since about a month, ran for 1year rocksolid before - I was able to
limit the source to be one of mainboard, processor or RAM), and because
I definately want hardware RAID and already have 8 HDs in the old server
(a total of approx. 0.9TB usable), I will need an additional controller
anyway, even without doing hardware RAID.
Anyway: Can anyone give me recommendations for a nice board which features:
1) 2 Gigabit Ethernet ports
2) at least one PCI-X slot (if no GB-Ethernet available: 2 PCI-X slots)
3) support for a AMD64/EM64T processor
Alternatively, I would be interested in recommendations for a nice SATA
controller with at least 8 channels. I currently tend to a 3ware 9005-8
or -12 because I had a very good experience with my current 3ware 7508.
However, if someone can recommend a good (and obviously: Linux
supported) SATA controller for PCIe, I would be interested in a
recommendation for a matching mainboard.
Price is of course important, but stability and Linux support are far
more important. I.e. given the choice between a 250$ combination of
mainboard and SATA controller which runs only _mostly_ stable, and a
1000$ combination which runs _completely_ stable, I would choose the latter.

cu,
sven


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Re: Problem with NICs on Amd64 installer

2005-11-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 11:47:43AM +, David Goodenough wrote:
 Len,
 
 I tried loading this manually (I notice in expert mode that there is a message
 saying that it needed this driver but could not find it) but it does not 
 appear to be there.  My guess (but only a guess) is that it is not in the
 initrd image.  It certainly is not in the 
 /lib/modules/2.6.12.../kernel/drivers/scsi directoryat the time that it
 comes to load the CD driver.

i2o is in drivers/message/

Who knows why.  If it isn't on the CD, I am pretty confused.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Cups On 64bit - Is it running?

2005-11-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 12:22:46PM +, studio-64 wrote:
 HI
 Ok I think I removed Cupsys(?)
 
 But this is what I get when I try and install
 Cupsys and what I thnk I need
  (there seems to be a large amount of stuff for cups)
 
 
 
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   cupsys: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-22 is to be installed

That means it is trying to install cupsys from testing/unstable but you
have libc from stable.  That doesn't work.  Don't mix releases unless
you know what you are doing.

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Re: Cups On 64bit - Is it running?

2005-11-23 Thread studio-64

HI Clive
I'm running 64Studio which is based on testing I think.


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb file:///cdrom/ etch main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 64 Studio _Etch_ - Unofficial amd64 Binary-1 
(20050707)]/ unstable main


# Security updates
deb http://packages.64studio.com/64studio 64studio main/updates

# Bleeding-edge packages
#deb http://packages.64studio.com/64studio 64studio main

# Debian official archive
deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64 testing main



I think I'll have to wait and keep an eye on the lists to see when these 
things ported to the 64 packages.


Cheers and thanks for the help, as a Digital Audio Workstation I cant 
fault this setup, it's just seems faster than the same stuff on 32 bit.


Cheers
Bob






Clive Menzies wrote:

On (23/11/05 12:22), studio-64 wrote:


Clive Menzies wrote:


Yeah! Ah well now we are at least close to the problem and hopefully
near to a solution.

I suggest you use aptitude to add and remove packages:

As root or sudo do:

# aptitude reinstall cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client

it should throw in a few dependencies

I always find this doc handy when playing with printing - coincidentally
I've just been sorting out a client's printing problem with a debian
print server and MacOSX and windows clients:

http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing.html

A lot of it won't be relevant but there's some good stuff in there :)

BTW - I'm copying this to the list - just in case somebody needs the
same info.  It's also customary on this list to post your answers below
so others can follow the thread.



Ok I think I removed Cupsys(?)

But this is what I get when I try and install
Cupsys and what I thnk I need
(there seems to be a large amount of stuff for cups)



The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 cupsys: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-22 is to be installed
 Depends: libcupsys2 (= 1.1.23-1) but it is not going to be 
installed
 Depends: libgnutls12 (= 1.2.5) but it is not going to be 
installed

 Depends: xpdf-utils but it is not going to be installed
 cupsys-driver-gimpprint: Depends: cupsys-driver-gutenprint (= 
4.3.99+cvs20050901-1) but it is not going to be installed
 gnome-cups-manager: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-22 is 
to be installed
 Depends: libcupsys2 (= 1.1.23-1) but it is not 
going to be installed
 Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.8.0) but 2.6.5-1 is 
to be installed
 Depends: libgnome-keyring0 (= 0.4.3) but 0.4.2-1 
is to be installed
 Depends: libgnomecupsui1.0-1 (= 0.31) but it is 
not going to be installed
 Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (= 2.10.0-0) but 2.8.4-4 
is to be installed
 Depends: libpango1.0-0 (= 1.8.2) but 1.8.1-1 is 
to be installed
 Depends: libxml2 (= 2.6.21) but 2.6.16-7 is to 
be installed

 hpoj: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-22 is to be installed
   Depends: libgcc1 (= 1:4.0.1) but 1:4.0.0-9 is to be installed
   Depends: libsnmp9 (= 5.2.1.2-3) but it is not going to be 
installed

   Depends: libstdc++6 (= 4.0.2) but 4.0.0-9 is to be installed
   Depends: libsane (= 1.0.15-7) but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
64studio:~#




Which release are you running? stable(sarge), testing(etch) or
unstable(sid); if you're not sure post the output of:

# cat /etc/apt/sources.list

It looks as though you're running etch or sid; in which case you may
have to wait for these dependencies to be resolved.  If you're
unfamiliar with Debian, you would be better of starting on sarge and
then upgrading when you're more comfortable with the 'Debian way'.

Am I right in thinking there isnt a Deb64 printing system for these 'all 
in one' HP things,  its a PSC 1205.



I don't know :(


Here is the output from the command:

# aptitude reinstall cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client



Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
cupsys is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled.
cupsys-bsd is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled.
The following packages have been kept back:
 dbus-1 dvd+rw-tools gs-esp hpoj html2text libcupsimage2 libfribidi0
 libhal0 libjackasyn0 libmpeg2-4 libslp1 libtar libxine1 make ripperx
 samba samba-common samba-dbg totem-xine xmms-jackasyn
The following packages will be REINSTALLED:
 cupsys-client
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 
20 not upgraded.

Need to get 0B/111kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Writing extended state information... Done
Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 64 Studio 
_Etch_ - Unofficial amd64 Binary-1 (20050707)' in the 

Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 10:29:20PM +0100, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
 Thank you very much.
 As for LVM I am not really sure I want to use it, mainly because I haven't
 really understood it yet. I should read the LVM howto probably :)
 
 As this will be my first RAID setup, I guess I'll just stick to one thing
 at a time.
 Again, thanks for your advice!

LVM allows me to resize my partitions if I need to without the issue
of moving the others around since LVM doesn't care about physical
location of blocks.  If I shrinkg one volume I can expand another no
matter where they are physically stored in the LVM, while with
partitions you can only do this with adjacent partitions.  I can also
add more disks to the LVM later and expand existing partitions to start
using the space on the new drives.

I like the flexibility.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 02:30:18PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 03:58:24PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
  d-i can do software raid1 just fine.  Just don't try to setup the
  fakeraid in the bios, it won't use that, and you don't want to either.
  
  The way I tend to do it is:
  make 3 partitions on each drive (identical) like:
  sda1/sdb1 128M (for boot raid1)
  sda2/sdb2 10G (for root raid)
 
 What's the benefit in splitting / and /boot, when both are on RAID1
 anyway? I have a 200G / on RAID1 with no issue at all (no /boot).

Ehm, until sometime early this year grub couldn't boot from raid, so I
used to manually mirror sda1 and sdb1 with dd everytime I made a change
to one of them. :(  Now that you can run grub with raid1, there is no
good reason for seperate /boot anymore.  Old habits die hard I guess. :)

 Also, don't forget swap. RAID1 is good for that too.

Hence why I have swap on lvm on raid (So I can resize swap if I want
to).

Len Sorensen


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Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 11:26:36AM +0100, Soenke von Stamm wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2005 04:30 schrieb Hamish Moffatt:
  Also, don't forget swap. RAID1 is good for that too.
 
 RAID1 for swap? What use would that be? With hot swappable disks perheaps? 
 RAID0 would be faster and reliability is not an issue - if one disk dies, 
 loss of swapped RAM is not the real issue. Better yet is setting up two swap 
 partitions with same size (one on each disk) and giving them the same 
 priority - this is the same as RAID0, only there is one software layer less 
 involved, thus faster/ less CPU intensive.

Loss of swapped ram WILL crash the system.  It is a big deal.  I run
raid so that I don't have unexpected downtime.

Loss of swapped ram can cause all sorts of interesting filesystem
corruption too.

Speed of swap doesn't matter anymore.  Add more ram.  It's cheap.  Swap
is for unusual events, not normal operation.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 12:30:45PM +0100, Soenke von Stamm wrote:
 That's what I suggested with With hot swappable disks perheaps? 
 Ok, yeah, I see the question mark too ;)
 
 In that case I usually utilize a hardware RAID adaptor so hotswap is possible 
 with IDE or SATA1.

I don't mind shutting down to change disk, but I want the shutdown to
be on _my_ schedule, not right after the first disk fails and some of
swap disappeared.  That might not be a convinient time to change disks
for me.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Nice server board for AMD64/EM64T?

2005-11-23 Thread Soenke von Stamm
Tyan Thunder K8SR S2881. I have one of them running under Linux in a high load 
mail server for months now without any problems. Using Opteron 248s (bought 
it when those were the 2nd fastest Optis). Chipset is also AMD, long in 
production, very reliable. NICs: two Broadcom BCM5704C, GBit.
Plus we have close to 20 of them running under W* with two Opteron 265s. 
Stable as can be. They eat every Intel offering in every respect - power 
draw, performance, price.

The board starts at €404, this ones is for 1U with only two slots. There are 
almost identical boards with more slots like Thunder K8SD Pro S2882. I found 
this one for only €370, -D version is recommended as it supports DualCore (I 
think the non-D have disappered from the market).

For SATA RAID, I use LSI MegaRAID SATA 300-8X, becuase 3ware 95xx doesn't fit 
into the Tyan 1U chassis (too long with SATA cables connected). The LSI so 
far runs perfectly (kernel  2.6.11 needed) so far, but only for some weeks 
by now.


Sönke



Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 02:46:34PM +0100, Alexander Nagel wrote:
 Be careful with newer ASUS boards. I have a K8V SE Deluxe and it sucks. I
 don't know for your board. But if ASUS build it with the same
 effort, good night. 
 (Problems with BIOS, disk, NIC, etc) Read the ASUS forum
 first.

My A8V Deluxe runs great.  In my experience Asus boards are usually
great, although I have never bought any of the budget boards (which I
consider socket 754 boards to be).  I have still not found a reason to
stop buying asus boards for all my machines (I have been doing so for 13
years now, but if they stop working great for me, I will find something
else.  That is how I went from ati to nvidia for videocards 6 years
ago).

 http://vip.asus.com/forum/bbs.aspx?SLanguage=en-usmodel=A8N-E
 
 Of course probably there are problems with other boards. 
 It's just advice.

Bios problems are common, and some makers will fix them, others won't.
Asus tends to fix them.  I won't say they always do, but they do tend
to.

Certainly people have said on this list in the past that tha A8N-SLI
runs linux for them, and the A8N-E is certainly related to it, so
hopefully it will work similarly.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Intel SE7230 + ICH7

2005-11-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:54:31PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 09:16:54AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
  Unless the board is high end and has some other chip on board, then no.
  Intel does not make a hardware raid chip that I am aware of.  The
  intel960 is used on some other companies raid cards, but I have never
  seen it on a motherboard.  Certainly the ICH7 is not a hardware raid
  chip.
 
 The i960 is a processor from many years ago (not x86 compatible).

That's right.  Used in many postscript printers and a number of raid
cards to do the work.

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Re: Nice server board for AMD64/EM64T?

2005-11-23 Thread David Goodenough
On Wednesday 23 November 2005 15:35, Soenke von Stamm wrote:
 Tyan Thunder K8SR S2881. I have one of them running under Linux in a high
 load mail server for months now without any problems. Using Opteron 248s
 (bought it when those were the 2nd fastest Optis). Chipset is also AMD,
 long in production, very reliable. NICs: two Broadcom BCM5704C, GBit.
 Plus we have close to 20 of them running under W* with two Opteron 265s.
 Stable as can be. They eat every Intel offering in every respect - power
 draw, performance, price.

 The board starts at €404, this ones is for 1U with only two slots. There
 are almost identical boards with more slots like Thunder K8SD Pro S2882. I
 found this one for only €370, -D version is recommended as it supports
 DualCore (I think the non-D have disappered from the market).

 For SATA RAID, I use LSI MegaRAID SATA 300-8X, becuase 3ware 95xx doesn't
 fit into the Tyan 1U chassis (too long with SATA cables connected). The LSI
 so far runs perfectly (kernel  2.6.11 needed) so far, but only for some
 weeks by now.


 Sönke
How did you get this installed.  We have one of these with SCSI RAID using
the DPT RAID card, and none of the Debian installers seem to have the right
driver in the initrd.  I am thinking of putting an old IDE drive in just to
bootstrap myself.

Also which driver do you use for he BCM5704C?  The tg3 module does not seem
to work and the bcm5700 driver is not build into the kernel so you have a 
chicken and egg problem to get it installed (I do not have a spare 3V PCI 
ethernet card I can put in to get me started, and USB ethernet adapters are
not supported by the installer kernel).

David


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Re: Nice server board for AMD64/EM64T?

2005-11-23 Thread Soenke von Stamm
Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2005 17:01 schrieb David Goodenough:
 How did you get this installed.  We have one of these with SCSI RAID using
 the DPT RAID card, and none of the Debian installers seem to have the right
 driver in the initrd.  I am thinking of putting an old IDE drive in just to
 bootstrap myself.

I don't know about DPT and for mine I transfered a completely installed system 
with 2.6.12 kernel (from unstable) from onboard SATA to LSI RAID (using a 
Live CD like knoppix I think ... or was it another disk with fresh install?).

 Also which driver do you use for he BCM5704C?  The tg3 module does not seem
 to work and the bcm5700 driver is not build into the kernel so you have a
 chicken and egg problem to get it installed (I do not have a spare 3V PCI
 ethernet card I can put in to get me started, and USB ethernet adapters are
 not supported by the installer kernel).

Er, I currently only have acces to a machine with 2.6.8-9-amd64-k8-smp 
running, it uses the tg3 driver which says :
eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95704A7) rev 2003 PHY(5704)] (PCIX:100MHz:64-bit) 
10/100/1000BaseT Ethernet 00:e0:81:xx:xx:xx

Somebody pointed to an installer image (netinstall) with 2.6.12 kernel in this 
list. You might want to search for it in the archive.


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Re: Why are only 2.2 or 2.4 kernels available to me?

2005-11-23 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Craig Hagerman wrote:

Arrrggg..!! THAT explains it. I have been hunting all over the
internet and all the instructions I come across seem to be talking
about kernel-sources  none I read mentioned the change. Thanks. I
will try that instead.

  

Just for the record, kernel-package works perfectly with kernel sources
downloaded by yourself from http://www.kernel.org or anywhere else.


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Re: Nice server board for AMD64/EM64T?

2005-11-23 Thread David Goodenough
On Wednesday 23 November 2005 17:05, Soenke von Stamm wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2005 17:01 schrieb David Goodenough:
  How did you get this installed.  We have one of these with SCSI RAID
  using the DPT RAID card, and none of the Debian installers seem to have
  the right driver in the initrd.  I am thinking of putting an old IDE
  drive in just to bootstrap myself.

 I don't know about DPT and for mine I transfered a completely installed
 system with 2.6.12 kernel (from unstable) from onboard SATA to LSI RAID
 (using a Live CD like knoppix I think ... or was it another disk with fresh
 install?).

I suspect that putting a little IDE drive on to boostrap it will help.  


  Also which driver do you use for he BCM5704C?  The tg3 module does not
  seem to work and the bcm5700 driver is not build into the kernel so you
  have a chicken and egg problem to get it installed (I do not have a spare
  3V PCI ethernet card I can put in to get me started, and USB ethernet
  adapters are not supported by the installer kernel).

 Er, I currently only have acces to a machine with 2.6.8-9-amd64-k8-smp
 running, it uses the tg3 driver which says :
 eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95704A7) rev 2003 PHY(5704)] (PCIX:100MHz:64-bit)
 10/100/1000BaseT Ethernet 00:e0:81:xx:xx:xx
Oddly the tg3 driver loads on my system but the device never detects the link
even though the light on the front lights.

 Somebody pointed to an installer image (netinstall) with 2.6.12 kernel in
 this list. You might want to search for it in the archive.
I have tried this and it did not work any better than the debian-installer
build.

David


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Re: amd64 on HP zv6130us notebook

2005-11-23 Thread pier
Dave Jacobs wrote:
 Does anyone have any experience with installing
 debian-31r0a-amd64-netinst.iso on an HP zv6130us notebook?
 
 I just bought one, and on booting from the Debian netinst CD, I get the
 splash screen, hit ENTER to boot, and the usual boot messages scroll
 by for about 1-2 seconds, then suddenly the screen goes completely black
 and the machine hangs until forcibly rebooted (power button). 
 Unfortunately, I can't see what the last message logged is, as it's on
 screen for only a brief moment.
 
 In the absence of info on this configuration, if anyone could recommend
 how to see the console messages which are being cleared away, I'd at
 least have a way to proceed with debugging this.
Hi.
I have a zv6169AE notebook.
To install debian i passed these options:

linux26 acpi=off (or was noacpi??) vga=791

As soon as you can, install a new kernel (at least 2.6.12) so you can
avoid the timer problem by passing to the kernel the option
no_timer_check.


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Re: Nice server board for AMD64/EM64T?

2005-11-23 Thread Sven Mueller
Soenke von Stamm wrote on 23/11/2005 16:35:
 Tyan Thunder K8SR S2881. I have one of them running under Linux in a high 
 load 
[...]
 The board starts at €404, this ones is for 1U with only two slots. There are 
 almost identical boards with more slots like Thunder K8SD Pro S2882. I found 
 this one for only €370, -D version is recommended as it supports DualCore (I 
 think the non-D have disappered from the market).

Nice. Thanks for the hint.

 For SATA RAID, I use LSI MegaRAID SATA 300-8X, becuase 3ware 95xx doesn't fit 
 into the Tyan 1U chassis (too long with SATA cables connected). The LSI so 
 far runs perfectly (kernel  2.6.11 needed) so far, but only for some weeks 
 by now.

How well is it supported in Linux? Are there monitoring tools to check
the RAID (and optionally individual drive) status? Does the Debian
installer know it?

cu,
sven



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Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
Mercredi 23 novembre 2005, 18:05:19 CET, Jack Malmostoso a écrit :
 
 On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:30:19 +0100, Alexander Nagel wrote:
 
  Problems with BIOS
 
 Here is a nice question: how do I update BIOS? Should I install at least
 FreeDOS or are ASUS BIOSes old school, i.e. a bootable floppy?
 It's 5 years I don't buy a new PC (and my iBook does not count ;)) and I
 am a little out of touch :)

New Asus bioses can be flashed from a system-less floppy or a cd-rom¹
(and perharps even a usb key) : just put the file on the media and press
the magic keys while booting (something like Ctrl-F2 instead of F2, check
the manual).

¹ my manual only talked about a floppy but as I have none, I tried a
dvd-rw: I just unzipped the update, copied both zip and unzipped files on
the dvd (didn't know which one was necessary), rebooted and the bios
flashed itself. Automagical ;o)

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Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:

 On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 02:30:18PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 03:58:24PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
  d-i can do software raid1 just fine.  Just don't try to setup the
  fakeraid in the bios, it won't use that, and you don't want to either.
  
  The way I tend to do it is:
  make 3 partitions on each drive (identical) like:
  sda1/sdb1 128M (for boot raid1)
  sda2/sdb2 10G (for root raid)
 
 What's the benefit in splitting / and /boot, when both are on RAID1
 anyway? I have a 200G / on RAID1 with no issue at all (no /boot).

 Ehm, until sometime early this year grub couldn't boot from raid, so I
 used to manually mirror sda1 and sdb1 with dd everytime I made a change
 to one of them. :(  Now that you can run grub with raid1, there is no
 good reason for seperate /boot anymore.  Old habits die hard I guess. :)

You could also use grub on raid1. The problem is installing it. You
had to trick it to believe you were installing on sda1 (and once more
for sdb1) and that would be hd0 on boot (where the mbr resides). That
way both disks are bootable.

I hope the latest grub-install script does that for you now.

 Also, don't forget swap. RAID1 is good for that too.

 Hence why I have swap on lvm on raid (So I can resize swap if I want
 to).

If I need to resize swap that is always temporary for me and then I
just add a swpafile.

 Len Sorensen

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Problems upgrading ia32-libs in sid: conflicts with ia32-libs-gtk?

2005-11-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Michelasso [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello everybody,
 today when I have tried to do an upgrade of my sid I got the following error:



 aquila:/home/user# apt-get upgrade
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree... Done
 The following packages have been kept back:
   arts libarts1-dev libartsc0 libartsc0-dev
 The following packages will be upgraded:
   ia32-libs
 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
 4 not fully installed or removed.
 Need to get 0B/9366kB of archives.
 After unpacking 73.7kB disk space will be freed.
 Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
 Reading package fields... Done
 Reading package status... Done
 Retrieving bug reports... Done
 (Reading database ... 157784 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace ia32-libs 1.4 (using .../ia32-libs_1.5_amd64.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement ia32-libs ...
 dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_1.5_amd64.deb
 (--unpack):
   trying to overwrite `/usr/lib32', which is also in package ia32-libs-gtk
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_1.5_amd64.deb
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


 I had installed some time ago ia32-libs-gtk_7_amd64.deb from Ubuntu to
 have Acrobat Reader working without chrooting.

 Any suggestion? Should I remove ia32-libs-gtk and then reinstall it to
 solve this problem or is this a kind of bug of this version of
 ia32-libs?

ia32-libs-gtk would be to blame, if only it were a debian package. But
this is just an incompatibility between ubuntu and debian (and imho a
dpkg bug, but that is another story).

Don't be surprised to hit problems when you mix and mingle.

MfG
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Re: apt-get update continues to push the same patches

2005-11-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Chris DiVirgilio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm having a bit of a problem with apt-get upgrade.

 Every night cron runs

 apt-get update  apt-get -s upgrade | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I would use apt-get -d dist-upgrade here. Download the debs already
for near instant installs the next morning.

 which emails the day's new patches to me.  The next day I look at the
 patches and install them with an apt-get upgrade.


 One morning I get an email with:

 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 The following packages will be upgraded:
apache2-utils libapr0 lynx
 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Inst libapr0 [2.0.54-5] (2.0.54-5 Debian-Security:3.1/stable)
 Inst apache2-utils [2.0.54-5] (2.0.54-5 Debian-Security:3.1/stable)
 Inst lynx [2.8.5-2sarge1] (2.8.5-2sarge1 Debian-Security:3.1/stable)
 Conf libapr0 (2.0.54-5 Debian-Security:3.1/stable)
 Conf apache2-utils (2.0.54-5 Debian-Security:3.1/stable)
 Conf lynx (2.8.5-2sarge1 Debian-Security:3.1/stable)

The amd64 archive did recompile some security fixes because it didn't
copy them from security.debian.org. This results in two different
packages with the same version to be available, one from security.d.o
and one from amd64.d.n.

Now apt-get want to install the package from the first source in your
sources.list while you already have the package from the second source
installed. You also (and here I guess) still have the package from the
second source in your apt cache. Now apt has a little bug that it
won't fetch the file if the cache already has it so it reinstalls the
one from the cache (second source) again and again.


If I'm guessing right a simple apt-get clean will solve the problem.

MfG
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Re: Suggestions for a new AMD64 system

2005-11-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 08:19:47PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 You could also use grub on raid1. The problem is installing it. You
 had to trick it to believe you were installing on sda1 (and once more
 for sdb1) and that would be hd0 on boot (where the mbr resides). That
 way both disks are bootable.
 
 I hope the latest grub-install script does that for you now.

I just run grub-install /dev/sda and /dev/sdb and it seems to make both
bootable with a raid1 for /boot.

 If I need to resize swap that is always temporary for me and then I
 just add a swpafile.

Certainly reasonable too.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Open office

2005-11-23 Thread Nico Jochens

On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 08:59:00AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 11:58:20AM -0900, Greg Madden wrote:
To sum up, there won't be a 64 bit OOo.org any time soon. 32 bit chroots are 
beyond  what a user can be expected to setup. The AMD64 cpu can run 32  64 
bit  apps at the same time, all is needed are the correct libraries installed 
for the 32 bit apps. This last point is what Ubuntu and others have used to 
run OpenOffice on 64 bit. Does Debian amd64 have such a plan for running 
OpenOffice ?


You can use Goswin's unofficial amd64-archive package to get this working.
It builds amd64 debs of enough library and binary packages to get it
running, though it's running 32-bit behind the scenes. Very nice.


Do you have a link? I have not found on google-search.


sunny greetings from Norderstedt

Nico


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