Re: Problem creating ia32 chroot
On 11/30/05, Jo Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > copy your /etc/resolv.conf into your chroot That got everything working. Thanks Aethon
etch graphical installer
having just installed fedora *shudder* in my quest to make my 3d card work, can i suggest that for newer nvidia cards that the 'vesa' driver be used not the 'nv'. the 'nv' turning my computer into a jibbering mess. this is with a 6600gt, i presume newer cards will have similar problems. ive since hacked around fedora and got it working... which has reminded me why i use debian. but anyway, tell that to nvidia support monkeys. Dean -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia: Unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion
there was, there may not be any more Dean Colin Ingram wrote: These sources provide the 7676 driver in (hopefully) easy to compile/install packages. deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/amd64/ deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/all/ Is there a difference between these packages and whats in experimental -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia: Unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion
> These sources provide the 7676 driver in (hopefully) easy to > compile/install packages. > > deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/amd64/ > deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/all/ Is there a difference between these packages and whats in experimental -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: about the advantage of 64 bit processor
Thanks for the answer. I'll try "test" the programs in this link: about video editing and enconding. I'll make a competition beetwen that application and win32bit application. If the summary result favorable to 64 bit then I will post it.=) Else I'll post the fake summary, wich contain the proof of the 64bits is much better than 32 bits. (I payed us$ 100 more for my processor ) Thanks again. (I hope understand my message) On 12/1/05, Mike Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Search google for it, it's a long and argumentative answer. > > I've run debian 64 and ubuntu 64 and everything works just fine for me. > Things that don't work. > ndiswrapper wifi drivers that are for windows 32bit (note open source native > drivers work fine, atheros for example) > > things that require a chroot: > win32codecs (to play binary copied windows codecs) > flash (open source versions available, but not a complete replacement for > macromedia) > openoffice(ubuntu has a hack to get it running without a chroot, but it is > suposidly "dirty" and is still running 32 bit) > > Aside from that I've had trouble with the newest Kino from Ubuntu, crashes > on save. Uriquen masters (game) doesn't work in AMD64, though these look > like simple bugs > > A side note, see the amd64 guide. It has details on how to creat a chroot. > I think it was pretty easy, cut and paste about 6 commands and you are set. > Then you can install 32 programs using aptitude, and you have a plain sarge > x86 distribution (just can't run 32 drivers on your 64bit kernel) > > As far as why you would run amd64? Probably so you can brag to your > friends. For most things I guess you can see 1-2% speed increase from using > the extra registers in the amd64. Encoders/compressors/encrypters and the > like can reap the benefits causing something like a 20% increase. The speed > difference will get better once amd64 gets more popular. Even unreal > tournament runs on amd64 now, but some benchmarks show it running slower > than the 32 bit version (as per lack of optimizations). > > > - Original Message - > From: "JULIO Cayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:20 PM > Subject: about the advantage of 64 bit processor > > > Hi, I don't speak Inglish, but I try. > I have an amd64 (+3200) processor (512 mb) , and obviusly , debian > sarge amd64. My question is: which program do you experiment a big > difference beetwen 32 bit and 64 bit. > I use a common aplication and the performce is equal to 32 bit program. > Thanks. > > Sorry for my Inglish. > > >
Re: Open office
> is this the reason, it doesn't work? > Any suggestions, what I can do? > had to downgrade all openoffice-files to sarge... now it works fine. happy to have openoffice again, sigi.
Re: Open office
Hi, > The posted package has a missing Depends on grep-dctrl and won't do > anything without it. Try the following: > > apt-get install reprepro gnupg ucf debian-keyring devscripts grep-dctrl > fakeroot > dpkg -i amd64-archive*.deb > > That should give some output as it converts each deb. > now I tried this on my machine - but it still does not work. I followed your instructions here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/07/msg00663.html and your lines above. but apt always says that openoffice.org depends on openoffice.org-bin, which should not installed... if I type apt-get install openoffice.org-bin it says, this depends on ia32-libdb4.2 and ia32-libxinerama1 which are both not available if I make a apt-get update, it says Hole:1 file: etch Release.gpg [189B] but later on Ign file: etch Release Ign file: etch/main Packages Ign file: etch/contrib Packages Ign file: etch/non-free Packages is this the reason, it doesn't work? Any suggestions, what I can do? regards, sigi. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ydpdict: fails to run on AMD64
Package: ydpdict Version: 0.63-1 Severity: important Tags: patch Ydpdict have problems with 'long' size on 64-bit little endian systems. Program builds, but dictionary is interpreted in wrong way (junk in word list). Big endian 64-bit systems are (probably) not affected. Upstream fixed this issue already, but Debian still have outdated package. Please apply patch or (better) update package to current upstream version. -- Krzysztof Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (900, 'testing'), (800, 'stable'), (700, 'unstable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.14-techie64 Locale: LANG=pl_PL, LC_CTYPE=pl_PL (charmap=ISO-8859-2) Versions of packages ydpdict depends on: ii libc6 2.3.5-8.1 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ydpdict recommends no packages. -- no debconf information HEY "Echosystem Tour": Katowice, Wrocław, Poznań, Toruń, Szczecin, Białystok, Warszawa, Lublin, Rzeszów, Bydgoszcz, Gdynia, Łódź, Kraków. Start 19 listopada! http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fadv.reklama.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fhey.html&sid=592 ydpdict-0.63_amd64-fixup.patch Description: Binary data
Re: Re: Building amd64 kernels on i386
Make note of all the packages installed and remove them afterwards. <<< Or use aptitude which will automatically take care of removing additional packages you've installed due to dependencies that you no longer need. Carl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: about the advantage of 64 bit processor
Search google for it, it's a long and argumentative answer. I've run debian 64 and ubuntu 64 and everything works just fine for me. Things that don't work. ndiswrapper wifi drivers that are for windows 32bit (note open source native drivers work fine, atheros for example) things that require a chroot: win32codecs (to play binary copied windows codecs) flash (open source versions available, but not a complete replacement for macromedia) openoffice(ubuntu has a hack to get it running without a chroot, but it is suposidly "dirty" and is still running 32 bit) Aside from that I've had trouble with the newest Kino from Ubuntu, crashes on save. Uriquen masters (game) doesn't work in AMD64, though these look like simple bugs A side note, see the amd64 guide. It has details on how to creat a chroot. I think it was pretty easy, cut and paste about 6 commands and you are set. Then you can install 32 programs using aptitude, and you have a plain sarge x86 distribution (just can't run 32 drivers on your 64bit kernel) As far as why you would run amd64? Probably so you can brag to your friends. For most things I guess you can see 1-2% speed increase from using the extra registers in the amd64. Encoders/compressors/encrypters and the like can reap the benefits causing something like a 20% increase. The speed difference will get better once amd64 gets more popular. Even unreal tournament runs on amd64 now, but some benchmarks show it running slower than the 32 bit version (as per lack of optimizations). - Original Message - From: "JULIO Cayo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:20 PM Subject: about the advantage of 64 bit processor Hi, I don't speak Inglish, but I try. I have an amd64 (+3200) processor (512 mb) , and obviusly , debian sarge amd64. My question is: which program do you experiment a big difference beetwen 32 bit and 64 bit. I use a common aplication and the performce is equal to 32 bit program. Thanks. Sorry for my Inglish. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/
On 12/1/05, Lars Schimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like in the other Email, it didn't start. > But now I solved it: > Your skype package misses the dependancy of skype on lib32xft2. > I installed the lib32xft2 package and it worked well enough like before. This is not right since I uploaded an updated ia32-libs (1.5-200511xx). I forgot to change skype deps to install it. Please remove lib32xft2, upgrade ia32-libs and retry it!
Re: Skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/
Lars Schimmer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Has anyone beside me problems with the latest .deb for skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/ ? Here skype won't start at all, but the first version of skype from that rep did work well enough. Cya Lars - -- Brother had problems with upgrades on Windows since Ebay took over.His solution was to use gizmo, unfortunately still proprietary, but conforms to sip standrd and is cross platform. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open office
Hi, > Some ms-office compatibility is nice, fortunately openoffice is not > needed for that. I chuck the .doc/.rtf at abiword, and gnumeric handles > the excel stuff. About a hundred times faster than openoffice, which > I only ever use to read the _openoffice_ documents people occationally > send me. But abiword doesn't support doc/rtf-files as good as openoffice does. There are lots of misrepresentations here... sigi.
Re: Skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 v0n0 wrote: > On 12/1/05, v0n0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>On 12/1/05, Lars Schimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>>Hash: SHA1 >>> >>>Hi! >>> >>>Has anyone beside me problems with the latest .deb for skype from >>>http://v0n0.altervista.org/ ? >>>Here skype won't start at all, but the first version of skype from that >>>rep did work well enough. > > > Which problems do you experience? Like in the other Email, it didn't start. But now I solved it: Your skype package misses the dependancy of skype on lib32xft2. I installed the lib32xft2 package and it worked well enough like before. Cya Lars - -- - - TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel.: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xB87A0E03 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDjvTfVguzrLh6DgMRAmlKAJ41pt0S6qPzHLUTDe3C1qT4ntnuhwCcCuNc SucPHU9+e4KwZmap+Ug/YG4= =BBTK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: dvd burning
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 00:28, koham zaku wrote: > I've checked on the web, found "growisofs" but it seems not to be in > debian's amd64 repositry. growisofs is in the dvd+rw-tools package. It is in the debian amd64 repository. Later Lee pgp6pMMK09j1D.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dvd burning
oh, ok,, thanks :) koh Jo Shields a écrit : > koham zaku wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> I'm looking for tools to burn dvd (backup) with bash only and under >> debian amd64 (x86_64 GNU/Linux) >> >> I've checked on the web, found "growisofs" but it seems not to be in >> debian's amd64 repositry. >> >> >> thanks for your help. >> >> koh >> >> >> >> > dvd+rw-tools, which contains growisofs, is part of main on Sarge (and > on Sid) > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd burning
koham zaku wrote: Hi all I'm looking for tools to burn dvd (backup) with bash only and under debian amd64 (x86_64 GNU/Linux) I've checked on the web, found "growisofs" but it seems not to be in debian's amd64 repositry. thanks for your help. koh dvd+rw-tools, which contains growisofs, is part of main on Sarge (and on Sid) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dvd burning
Hi all I'm looking for tools to burn dvd (backup) with bash only and under debian amd64 (x86_64 GNU/Linux) I've checked on the web, found "growisofs" but it seems not to be in debian's amd64 repositry. thanks for your help. koh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open office
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, studio-64 wrote: Hi I'm trying to install Abiword (For the many Docs I get) It seems when I atp-get install it wants to uninstall: gnome-applets gnome-core Do you know if it's safe to lose these on a Gnome desktop machine? install abiword-gnome instead of abiword, if you want a gnome-friendly version. bye Giacomo -- _ Giacomo Mulas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 _ "When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are" (Freddy Mercury) _ -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open office
Helge Hafting wrote: Lars Schimmer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Stiles wrote: On Tuesday 22 November 2005 08:09, Rob van Kraanen wrote: A lot of people think they need OOo for the same reason that a lot of people think they need MS Office, or Windows. Because it IS used. We are all NOT private persons and if you are at office, you NEED some software which IS stable for some years and which works nicely with MS Office docs and produces some nice files. And you need something which works on nearly all platforms, Apple OS X, Windows XP AND Linux. Some ms-office compatibility is nice, fortunately openoffice is not needed for that. I chuck the .doc/.rtf at abiword, and gnumeric handles the excel stuff. About a hundred times faster than openoffice, which I only ever use to read the _openoffice_ documents people occationally send me. Helge Hafting Hi I'm trying to install Abiword (For the many Docs I get) It seems when I atp-get install it wants to uninstall: gnome-applets gnome-core Do you know if it's safe to lose these on a Gnome desktop machine? Cheers Bob Bearmusic hearmymusic.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/
On 12/1/05, v0n0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/1/05, Lars Schimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi! > > > > Has anyone beside me problems with the latest .deb for skype from > > http://v0n0.altervista.org/ ? > > Here skype won't start at all, but the first version of skype from that > > rep did work well enough. Which problems do you experience?
Re: Skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/
On 12/1/05, Lars Schimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi! > > Has anyone beside me problems with the latest .deb for skype from > http://v0n0.altervista.org/ ? > Here skype won't start at all, but the first version of skype from that > rep did work well enough. > > Cya > Lars > - -- > - - > TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung > Tel.: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PGP-Key-ID: 0xB87A0E03 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFDjtVdVguzrLh6DgMRAuEsAJ4uQ3V8w+X0exA8tERSWYYuXtXHfQCfQzVx > I2fviE/h8/hRpNV86sj2J50= > =QZ4i > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Has anyone beside me problems with the latest .deb for skype from http://v0n0.altervista.org/ ? Here skype won't start at all, but the first version of skype from that rep did work well enough. Cya Lars - -- - - TU Graz, Institut für ComputerGraphik & WissensVisualisierung Tel.: +43 316 873-5405 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xB87A0E03 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDjtVdVguzrLh6DgMRAuEsAJ4uQ3V8w+X0exA8tERSWYYuXtXHfQCfQzVx I2fviE/h8/hRpNV86sj2J50= =QZ4i -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building amd64 kernels on i386
On 11/30/05, Brice Figureau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not having gcc on a machine is imho a quite good layer of protection, as > it will defeat any rootkit script that compiles some custom tools (trust > me there are more than you would have tought first, I just got my eyes > on one a few days ago that wanted to be installed through a mambo > server). Not having gcc is about as good for security as ROT13 encoding the names of all executables. Sure, it will confuse every script that tries to install something, but is it worth it? If you still have doubts, you can install gcc for compiling the kernel and then remove it afterwards. Cross-compiling is experimental at best, if it works at all. I would certainly not try the result of the cross-compilation on a production server :-). Thomas
Re: Open office
Lars Schimmer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Stiles wrote: On Tuesday 22 November 2005 08:09, Rob van Kraanen wrote: A lot of people think they need OOo for the same reason that a lot of people think they need MS Office, or Windows. Because it IS used. We are all NOT private persons and if you are at office, you NEED some software which IS stable for some years and which works nicely with MS Office docs and produces some nice files. And you need something which works on nearly all platforms, Apple OS X, Windows XP AND Linux. Some ms-office compatibility is nice, fortunately openoffice is not needed for that. I chuck the .doc/.rtf at abiword, and gnumeric handles the excel stuff. About a hundred times faster than openoffice, which I only ever use to read the _openoffice_ documents people occationally send me. Helge Hafting -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changed ownership of / by mistake...
Craig Hagerman wrote: Thanks for the replies Gilles and Cameron. I tried the suggestion to do apt-get --reinstall -u install and it does seem to have gotten things back ALMOST to where they should be. still a couple of obvious problems. I have no sound for some reason. I checked and things like /dev/audio0 ARE correct (root:audio) now. I get an errror message when I try to open the volume control and volume is greyed out on something like totem. Not really sure what might still be wrong to prevent audio from working Ok, the device file has correct ownership. Ownership of "/dev" and "/" is ok too? How about the sounddriver module, probably in /lib/modules/... somewhere? Or the module loader, /sbin/insmod or modprobe? Use the "find" command to find files owned by craig outside of /home. Then change them or reinstall the package. Don't forget directories not supposed to be owned by craig. If "chown root:root *" fails, try "chown 0:0 *". Looking up names like "root" may very well fail on a hosed system, numbers tend to work. And root always has UID 0. Make sure any suid binaries in /bin, /usr/sbin, and /usr/bin are all owned by root. If they're owned by craig then they will switch uid to craig when run, loose their privileges and then fail. . . The second thing I have noticed is that the terminal doesn't work. I CAN open up the terminal (gui), but there is an error message saying "cannon open child process", and the terminal itself is unusable. There is no prompt and I can't actually type anything in it. (Still going in by ssh from a remote machine.) Ownership of the xterm/gterm/kterm/rxvt binary is ok? Check ownerships in /dev - nothing should be owned by craig, but not all stuff is supposed to be owned by root:root either. Consider recreating /dev using makedev. Any ideas on these anyone? By the way Cameron, I did try knoppix, but since it is only a 32 bit OS I can't chroot into my existing filesystem. No need to chroot. Just mount the fs under /mnt, then go into /mnt and use chown to set ownership correctly. Then umount the fs and reboot. Helge Hafting -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
