Re: dvd film and K3b

2005-12-07 Thread A J Stiles
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 20:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did a dvd film backup using K3b dvd data option resulting now in dvd
 I'm not able to play using common dvd player such mplayer or xine. I
 tried vobcopy without succes.

 I'm running Debian Sarge amd64 unofficial port however I don't think
 that problem it's platform related.

 Is there a way to play that dvd film? I tried to play using m$ windows
 apps (don't remember which) and that works g.

First question:  does it play on a standalone DVD-player?

I have a TV-recorder which used DVD+RW and DVD+R discs, and I have discovered 
that it is possible to copy a keeper recording from +RW to +R just using 
K3B to generate an ISO image.  The resulting disc plays fine in my recorder 
and in standalone DVD-players.  I have noticed that play-only machines have 
trouble with +R discs from my recorder that are not yet finalised, but K3B 
seems to finalise the +R.  I guess that because +RW is rewritable, it can 
finalise after every programme, then just un-finalise the disc when it is 
time for the next recording.

One amusing thing is that when the recorder is playing a +RW disc and stopped 
mid-programme, not at the menu, then it will record the title, chapter and 
frame somewhere on the disc so you can resume playback from the same point -- 
e.g., if you swap discs to record something else then put back the one you 
were watching, the moment you hit PLAY it will start again from that point.  
Copying the +RW onto a +R copies absolutely everything.  So I have a few 
discs that never start at the beginning, and need to be stopped and 
restarted, simply because I did not realise what was happening!

Another thing I noticed is that the files on the DVD+RW do not seem to 
correspond in any way with programmes recorded.  For example, on a disc with 
all six episodes of BlackAdder II, I find only five files; and when I try 
to view them individually, the starting points are not the starts of the 
individual episodes.

So I can't find any obvious way to separate recorded programmes.  I could get 
around this is by just recording from my portable DVD-player to the recorder 
using the AV-cables, but of course this is lossy {as the information is being 
compressed twice} and it takes just as long as it would take to watch the 
programme.

I am sure there must be a way to extract just one programme from a DVD+RW and 
burn it to another disc, so that I can keep episodes of the same series 
together on the same disc, in order  {maybe with the advertisements omitted 
into the bargain; though my recorder has the ability to add chapter markers 
anywhere, so I just need to place one at the end of each advert-break before 
copying, then hit next chapter to skip the adverts}.  Has anyone any 
suggestions?

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Re: why is amd64 still separate?

2005-12-07 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Adam Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Except that the first I described sounds an awful lot like Ubuntu .

Except that Ubuntu also only supports a subset (ie. the packages in
Ubuntu main) of the packages Debian currently has. This is not a snide
at Ubuntu, I think that is a good choice for Ubuntu (and for the Linux
community), as it allows them to release more often than Debian can.

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Re: why is amd64 still separate?

2005-12-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tuesday 06 December 2005 13:15, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  It's deemed necessary to split the archive into popular/less-popular
  architectures before any more can be added -- not just amd64. The
  current single archive is too big for mirrors. That work is in progress.
 
  I don't understand the problem there.  Each mirror already can decide
  which architectures to mirror.
 
  Matthias

 The first argument is: All primary mirrors must have all archs.

 The second: Excluding archs is to hard for mirror admins, they will
 drop debian complety instead of excluding archs.


 Both arguments I can't agree with and some primary mirrors already
 droped archs. But that were the reasons given.

 MfG
 Goswin

 I can see real benefits in the idea of supporting many architectures, but of 
 course this means more to look after.  Problems with a package on one 
 architecture can hold up its release in other architectures.  It's all rather 
 like cooking a big meal:  the more items you have on the stove, the harder it 
 gets to time everything so it all comes ready at once.  

Which is completly irelevant to the topic.

MfG
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Re: junk showing up in /emul/ia32-linux

2005-12-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Larry Doolittle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Friends -

 I have a really nice amd64 sid machine, which has run
 solidly for over a year now.  I really appreciate all
 the really hard work behind the scenes that keeps Debian
 unique and useful.

 I have never run a 32-bit binary on this computer, and
 don't see any reason to ... ever.  If it's not built from
 published, 64-bit clean source code, it doesn't belong on 
 my computer.

 Recently files have started showing up in /emul/ia32-linux.
 Offending packages are libg2c0-dev, fakeroot, and
 libgfortran0-dev.  I tried submitting bug reports for
 the first two: #341786 and #341788.  The latter got
 merged with the inverse bug (amd64 junk showing up on
 i386 machines), #323285, and tagged minor and wontfix.

 Shall I rm -rf /emul after every apt-get upgrade?
 Shouldn't there be a way to separate out compatibility
 cruft, either at the package or installer level?

  - Larry

libg2c0-dev and libgfortran0-dev need stuff in /emul to be able to
compile 32bit code. Splitting those few K of libs out into seperate
debs just so your /emul stays empty is probably more work and waste
then saved.

fakeroot absolutely needs the 32bit wraper libs so packages with 32bit
code still compile. Or do you want to give up lilo and grub and be
unable to boot in the future? Again, splitting the few K out into a
fakeroot32 is just unreasonable.

If you realy don't want the stuff use dpkg-divert to tell dpkg to
ignore those files.

MfG
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Re: junk showing up in /emul/ia32-linux

2005-12-07 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 10:29 -0800, Larry Doolittle wrote:
[...]
 I have a really nice amd64 sid machine, which has run
[...]
 I have never run a 32-bit binary on this computer, and
 don't see any reason to ... ever.  If it's not built from

You apparently do not need OpenOffice.org.

 published, 64-bit clean source code, it doesn't belong on 
 my computer.

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Re: One stage rsync

2005-12-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Olleg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 That said, what happens when e.g. the rsync stops halfway?

 I make experiment, kill rsync server on transfer.

 Does it update the files it already has?
 No
 Does it keep the files delayed and resume on the next run?
 Does it remove the updates and start fresh the next time?
 Keep files delayed in .~tmp~ subdir by default, don't remove it on
 error. (IMHO this is bug of rsync.) But on rsync next time don't use
 it, simple rewrite.

 --
 Olleg

Keeping the incomplete file isn't an error. On restart rsync should
add the block checksums of the incomplete file to the existing files
blocklist and reuse that data. But that might make thinks more
complicated.

MfG
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Re: junk showing up in /emul/ia32-linux

2005-12-07 Thread Jo Shields

Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:


On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 10:29 -0800, Larry Doolittle wrote:
[...]
 


I have a really nice amd64 sid machine, which has run
   


[...]
 


I have never run a 32-bit binary on this computer, and
don't see any reason to ... ever.  If it's not built from
   



You apparently do not need OpenOffice.org.

 

published, 64-bit clean source code, it doesn't belong on 
my computer.
   



Bernd
 


or lilo/grub


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Re: [SPAM] Re: why is amd64 still separate?

2005-12-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 12:59:35AM -0900, Fielder George Dowding wrote:
 Regarding splitting the archives: it has taken eight days (640 kb/s DSL)
 to build my local Debian AMD64 mirror. I also keep a local mirror for
 the i386 architecture. I use these mirrors to install and update half a
 dozen computers. It is much faster than the Internet even when I have a
 DSL or cable connection.

I find that using a proxy server to cache the files is a lot faster than
trying to mirror everything since 90% of it you won't ever use on any
machine.

Len Sorensen


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DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-07 Thread Lars Schimmer
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Hi!

Just for a quick note:
anyone has a suggestion for a dual-Opteron board for Dualcore opterons
which works flawless under debian amd64?
E.G. the Tyan Tiger K8WE looks nice for me, but does it run flawless
with debian amd64?
At least this board has to power up 4 firewire bus for us here.

Cya
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Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-07 Thread mike
I run Tyan dual-Opterons - not dual-core yet, but I would expect them
to run great. They use pretty standard chipsets. I'd suggest them
every time. Debian-amd64 works great on them.

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 E.G. the Tyan Tiger K8WE looks nice for me, but does it run flawless
 with debian amd64?
 At least this board has to power up 4 firewire bus for us here.

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Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-07 Thread Gilles
Hello.

 anyone has a suggestion for a dual-Opteron board for Dualcore opterons
 which works flawless under debian amd64?
 E.G. the Tyan Tiger K8WE looks nice for me, but does it run flawless
 with debian amd64?

I have a Tiger K8W (what does the supplementary E stand for?), and it
has worked since February.

Gilles


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Re: ISO Burning problems

2005-12-07 Thread Gnu-Raiz
On 14:46, Tue 06 Dec 05, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 01:26:17PM -0600, Mike Reinehr wrote:
  I ran into this the first time that I burned a DVD image of Libranet's new, 
  3.0 release. Growisofs output indicated a successful burn, but the new 
  image 
  failed the md5sum test. I finally noticed that the dvd image was several 
  kilobytes larger than the original image. Eventually, using dd  od I 
  determined that the difference appeared to consist of several blocks of 
  binary zeros appended to the end of the original image. As a test of this 
  theory, I used dd to truncate the extra blocks and the resulting image 
  passed 
  the md5sum test.
 
 cd and dvd are supposed to be padded at the end with zeros.  Reading
 them raw is not supported since there is not official end to the track,
 only the filesystem knows how far to expect reads to work.
 
 The correct way to verify a CD/DVD is to compare the contents in
 general, or to use readcd or equivalant specifying the number of blocks
 to read to match the original size.
 
 Len Sorensen
 
 
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What I don't understand is why all the fuse, I thought you
were supposed to check the md5sums after you downloaded them
from the source. Once you have them verified then you know
it's clean, and a proper source.

If you then burn them, or use them or modify them on your
computer then its a totally different story. The only
exception might be a rootkit, but that is somewhat out of
character of a root kit, as they usually want to control the
local machine, and not modify itself to change how a dvd
burn works.

I must admit that using diff, and your other suggestions for
the list was a good refresher of cmd line tools. I never did
like k3b that much, everytime I used it it give's weird
results or crashed.  So I stuck with growisofs, and the
other basis tools that all the gui's depend on.

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Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-07 Thread Austin Denyer

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:25:38 +0100
Lars Schimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Just for a quick note:
 anyone has a suggestion for a dual-Opteron board for Dualcore opterons
 which works flawless under debian amd64?
 E.G. the Tyan Tiger K8WE looks nice for me, but does it run flawless
 with debian amd64?
 At least this board has to power up 4 firewire bus for us here.

I'm not running dual-core, but I do run dual-processor (Opteron 246) on
the K8WE, and it runs great.

You will probably want to use Len's 2.6.12 install cd though.

Regards,
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Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-07 Thread Elaine Tsiang YueLien
Hi,

I have been running sarge amd64
(2.6.8-11 kernel only) for 2 months on

Supermicro H8DAR-8 (AMD chipset)
with SCSI: 2x aic7902
NI: 2x tg3

http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron/8132/H8DAR-T.cfm

Every development tool/library I tried worked as advertised so far. But
I am not trying to run popular desktop applications, nor do anything
fancy with peripheral devices.

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 E.G. the Tyan Tiger K8WE looks nice for me, but does it run flawless
 with debian amd64?
 At least this board has to power up 4 firewire bus for us here.
 
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Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-07 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 11:45:18AM -0500, Austin Denyer wrote:
 
 On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:25:38 +0100
 Lars Schimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Just for a quick note:
  anyone has a suggestion for a dual-Opteron board for Dualcore opterons
  which works flawless under debian amd64?
  E.G. the Tyan Tiger K8WE looks nice for me, but does it run flawless
  with debian amd64?
  At least this board has to power up 4 firewire bus for us here.
 
 I'm not running dual-core, but I do run dual-processor (Opteron 246) on
 the K8WE, and it runs great.
 
 You will probably want to use Len's 2.6.12 install cd though.

I am running dual 265s on a K8WE, it is quite flawless.  I installed
with the standard netinst iso, the installation went w/o a hitch.  I'm
running with a 2.6.12 something kernel that it installed with, and I
haven't had reason to upgrade.  lm-sensors worked right out of the box
as well as the dual gigabit NICs.

Cheers,

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Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 12:53:01PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
 I am running dual 265s on a K8WE, it is quite flawless.  I installed
 with the standard netinst iso, the installation went w/o a hitch.  I'm
 running with a 2.6.12 something kernel that it installed with, and I
 haven't had reason to upgrade.  lm-sensors worked right out of the box
 as well as the dual gigabit NICs.

Well sarge installs with 2.6.8 normally, so you either used another
installer or upgraded afterwards.

Len Sorensen


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Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-07 Thread mike
 I believe there is an issue with kernels  2.6.14-2 with Opteron SMP.
 That is why I'm running 2.6.14-2 myself.

 The issue was an AMD errata rather than a bug with the kernel -
 2.6.14-2 contained a workaround.

I think that's all that NUMA stuff right? It wasnt optimized properly
or something...



Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-07 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 03:58:19PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 12:53:01PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
  I am running dual 265s on a K8WE, it is quite flawless.  I installed
  with the standard netinst iso, the installation went w/o a hitch.  I'm
  running with a 2.6.12 something kernel that it installed with, and I
  haven't had reason to upgrade.  lm-sensors worked right out of the box
  as well as the dual gigabit NICs.
 
 Well sarge installs with 2.6.8 normally, so you either used another
 installer or upgraded afterwards.

etch

Cheers,

a


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Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 01:04:43PM -0800, mike wrote:
  I believe there is an issue with kernels  2.6.14-2 with Opteron SMP.
  That is why I'm running 2.6.14-2 myself.
 
  The issue was an AMD errata rather than a bug with the kernel -
  2.6.14-2 contained a workaround.
 
 I think that's all that NUMA stuff right? It wasnt optimized properly
 or something...

Probably the assumption that TSCs were synced between cores in a dual
core, which they apparently are not.

Len Sorensen


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Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-07 Thread Austin Denyer

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 13:04:43 -0800
mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I believe there is an issue with kernels  2.6.14-2 with Opteron
  SMP. That is why I'm running 2.6.14-2 myself.
 
  The issue was an AMD errata rather than a bug with the kernel -
  2.6.14-2 contained a workaround.
 
 I think that's all that NUMA stuff right? It wasnt optimized properly
 or something...

It was the TLB flush filtering issue.

Here's a link.  It's long, so I've reproduced the clip below.

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/ChangeLog-2.6.14-rc2

quote
 commit bc5e8fdfc622b03acf5ac974a1b8b26da6511c99
 Author: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   Sat Sep 17 15:41:04 2005 -0700

 x86-64/smp: fix random SIGSEGV issues

 They seem to have been due to AMD errata 63/122; the fix is to
 disable TLB flush filtering in SMP configurations.

 Confirmed to fix the problem by Andrew Walrond [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [ Let's see if we'll have a better fix eventually, this is the QD
   let's get this fixed and out there version ]

 Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/quote

And here's another link:

http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/9/20/207

quote
Date  Tue, 20 Sep 2005 10:30:48 -0700 (PDT)
  From  Linus Torvalds 
  Subject  Re: x86-64 bad pmds in 2.6.11.6
  
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Charles McCreary wrote:

 Another datapoint for this thread. The box spewing the bad pmds
 messages is a dual opteron 246 on a TYAN S2885 Thunder K8W
 motherboard. Kernel is 2.6.11.4-20a-smp.

This is quite possibly the result of an Opteron errata (tlb flush
filtering is broken on SMP) that we worked around as of 2.6.14-rc4.

So either just try 2.6.14-rc2, or try the appended patch (it has since 
been confirmed by many more people).

Linus
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Re: DualCore Dual-Opteron Board - suggestion?

2005-12-07 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 04:06:54PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 01:04:43PM -0800, mike wrote:
   I believe there is an issue with kernels  2.6.14-2 with Opteron SMP.
   That is why I'm running 2.6.14-2 myself.
  
   The issue was an AMD errata rather than a bug with the kernel -
   2.6.14-2 contained a workaround.
  
  I think that's all that NUMA stuff right? It wasnt optimized properly
  or something...
 
 Probably the assumption that TSCs were synced between cores in a dual
 core, which they apparently are not.

Like I said, it's been working flawlessly, and, when I'm not home sick
with the @[EMAIL PROTECTED] flu, I routinely work all four cores pretty hard
during the day.  No oopses, nothing.  In fact, the only time it's
been down was when I had to put it in a case.  Sad day, that.

Cheers,

a


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Re: dvd film and K3b

2005-12-07 Thread Robert Isaac
 I am sure there must be a way to extract just one programme from a DVD+RW and
 burn it to another disc, so that I can keep episodes of the same series
 together on the same disc, in order  {maybe with the advertisements omitted
 into the bargain; though my recorder has the ability to add chapter markers
 anywhere, so I just need to place one at the end of each advert-break before
 copying, then hit next chapter to skip the adverts}.  Has anyone any
 suggestions?


You could always rip the chapters that you want as individual mpeg
files then use mpgtx to join the mpeg's into one monolithic file, then
use the transcode + dvdauthor method to create your DVD.



fresh.install

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Wakefield
Greetings all,

gonna do a fresh install of debian-amd64 testing ; what's the best 
filename.img to use?

Thanks,
Chris w.


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Re: fresh.install

2005-12-07 Thread Dean Hamstead

use a nightly install cd

Dean

Chris Wakefield wrote:

Greetings all,

gonna do a fresh install of debian-amd64 testing ; what's the best 
filename.img to use?


Thanks,
Chris w.





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Re: fresh.install

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Langley
I used the image below and then updated to unstable.

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-amd64-netinst.iso

There's a list of images you can use on http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/

It's best to look around and figure out what you need.

On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:26:47 -0800
Chris Wakefield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greetings all,
 
 gonna do a fresh install of debian-amd64 testing ; what's the best 
 filename.img to use?
 
 Thanks,
 Chris w.
 
 
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