Re: is it em64t ?

2006-01-07 Thread Jerome Warnier
Le jeudi 05 janvier 2006 à 11:09 +0100, Erik Mouw a écrit :
 On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 10:22:51AM +0100, Koen Vermeer wrote:
  On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 17:04 +0800, zzz haha wrote:
   i have a p4 machine. how can i know if it has em64t?
  
  A somewhat stupid but nevertheless possibly useful suggestion: Try to
  boot the Debian x86-64 installation CD. If it works, you either have an
  em64t or an amd64 processor. Since you state your machine is a p4, you
  may safely rule out the latter possibility.
  
  Alternatively, try to find out what processor is in there, and check the
  Intel website. Maybe there's also a flag in /proc/cpuinfo that indicates
  em64t capabilities.
 
 The lm flag in /proc/cpuinfo tells the CPU can do long mode, which
 means it has the 64 bit extensions.
By the way: I need to work on a Xeon machine remotely, and I wondered if
it had multiple processors (it is not a dual-core) or simply
HyperThreading. How can I distinguish? Here is /proc/cpuinfo:
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 4
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 3001.253
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm
pni monitor ds_cpl cid
bogomips: 5947.39

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 4
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 3001.253
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm
pni monitor ds_cpl cid
bogomips: 5996.54

Thanks

 Erik

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Re: is it em64t ?

2006-01-07 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Jerome Warnier wrote:

By the way: I need to work on a Xeon machine remotely, and I wondered if
it had multiple processors (it is not a dual-core) or simply
HyperThreading. How can I distinguish? Here is /proc/cpuinfo:

flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm
pni monitor ds_cpl cid
  


I'm no expert in processors, but I'd guess that ht there in the flags
means it has HyperThreading support.


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Re: is it em64t ?

2006-01-07 Thread Michal Schmidt

Jerome Warnier wrote:

By the way: I need to work on a Xeon machine remotely, and I wondered if
it had multiple processors (it is not a dual-core) or simply
HyperThreading. How can I distinguish? Here is /proc/cpuinfo:
processor   : 0
...
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
...

processor   : 1
...
physical id : 0
siblings: 2


You can see two logical processors (numbered 0 and 1), which are both 
parts of a single physical processor (with physical id 0). Each 
processor is one of 2 siblings.

= this is a single hyperthreaded processor

Michal


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Re: is it em64t ?

2006-01-07 Thread Jerome Warnier
Le samedi 07 janvier 2006 à 21:46 +1100, Hamish Moffatt a écrit :
 On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 08:34:31AM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
  Jerome Warnier wrote:
  
  By the way: I need to work on a Xeon machine remotely, and I wondered if
  it had multiple processors (it is not a dual-core) or simply
  HyperThreading. How can I distinguish? Here is /proc/cpuinfo:
  
  flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
  mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm
  pni monitor ds_cpl cid
  
  I'm no expert in processors, but I'd guess that ht there in the flags
  means it has HyperThreading support.
 
 It does, but what if HyperThreading was present but disabled in the
 BIOS? I don't know how you would tell in that case.
Or SMP support disabled in the kernel.


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Re: is it em64t ?

2006-01-07 Thread Jerome Warnier
Le samedi 07 janvier 2006 à 11:56 +0100, Michal Schmidt a écrit :
 Jerome Warnier wrote:
  By the way: I need to work on a Xeon machine remotely, and I wondered if
  it had multiple processors (it is not a dual-core) or simply
  HyperThreading. How can I distinguish? Here is /proc/cpuinfo:
  processor   : 0
  ...
  physical id : 0
  siblings: 2
  ...
  
  processor   : 1
  ...
  physical id : 0
  siblings: 2
 
 You can see two logical processors (numbered 0 and 1), which are both 
 parts of a single physical processor (with physical id 0). Each 
 processor is one of 2 siblings.
 = this is a single hyperthreaded processor
Thanks, this is all I wanted to know, exactly the way I wanted it.

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Re: is it em64t ?

2006-01-07 Thread Ernest jw ter Kuile
On Saturday 07 January 2006 11:46, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 It does, but what if HyperThreading was present but disabled in the
 BIOS? I don't know how you would tell in that case.

Most of these flags are not set simply because the kernel found a certain type 
of processor. They are the result of elaborate startup tests which detect 
these capabilities. 

If a capability is disabled in the bios, two things can happen

1) the kernel does not detect it at all; in which case the relevant flag is 
not set;

2) the kernel detects the capability but switched off; in which case the 
kernel will attempt to switch it on (if it can of course). If this succeeds 
the flag is set, if not you will often see an error and the flag is not 
switched on.

I have been told, however, that a few processor capabilities are so bound to 
the a certain type of cpu that their flag is simply set if that cpu is found.

I don't know under which category the hyperthreading flag falls, but knowing 
that hyperthreading can be disabled in the bios, I would not expect the 
kernel to simply set that flag blindly.

Ernest.


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Re: Qt 4.1 for debian amd64?

2006-01-07 Thread Ernest jw ter Kuile

qt 4.1 is in unstable.

On Friday 06 January 2006 12:13, Lars Schimmer wrote:
 Hi!

 Is there any package for Qt4.1 out there ?
 I try to built OpenWengoNG and this piece of Software really needs Qt
 4.1

 Cya
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How PGP-key update

2006-01-07 Thread Hans
Hello all,

are there no pgp keys for testing or unstable ? Why will apt-get update do not 
update the keys ? Any clue ?

This is, what apt-get update is telling me:

- snip 

OK   ftp://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/non-free Sources
Es wurden 1513B in 21s geholt (71B/s)
W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de unstable Release: The following signatures 
couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 
BB5E459A529B8BDA
W: GPG error: ftp://debian.tu-bs.de testing Release: The following signatures 
couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 
010908312D230C5F
W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release: The following signatures 
couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 
07DC563D1F41B907
W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing Release: The following 
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: 
NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F
W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.de.debian.org unstable Release: The following 
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: 
NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F
E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Die Ressource ist 
zur Zeit nicht verfügbar)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another 
process using it?

-  snap  


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Re: Anyone willing to seed sarge amd64 isos?

2006-01-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 08:56:35AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:

 Given the number of very fast mirrors debian has for http and ftp, jigdo
 is actually a rather efficient method.

Well, in the past I had quite the opposite experiences. Jigdo downloads
a lot of small files, and one extra HTTP query per file presents a
_huge_ overhead. Downloading an image with jigdo is at least 2-4 times
slower than downloading the single ISO image from the very same mirror.
The interesting effect is that the faster your network connection the
bigger the difference in speed will be.

You can help somewhat if you increase the number of files to process in
a batch (back when I played with it I had to edit the jigdo script for
this; I don´t remember the numbers but about a 10 times increase
noticably reduced the download time).

Jigdo helps only if you already have an older version of the image and
there are not much updates.

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Re: How PGP-key update

2006-01-07 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
Hi,

On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 01:49:21PM +0100, Hans wrote:
 are there no pgp keys for testing or unstable ? Why will apt-get update do
 not update the keys ? Any clue ?
apt-get update should never ever update the keys automagically.
There is you (The Administrator) who declare trusted sites.
apt-get update can only refetch the {Release,Package,Source}.gpg and check
signatures.

Warnings you got from apt-get update just says that those repositories
are not trusted.
To trust declare the repository as trusted just should fetch a key
for the repository, make sure it is a valid key then run apt-key add.
For example, to make an official Debian repository trusted you should run:
wget http://ftp-master.debian.org/ziyi_key_2006.asc
apt-key add ziyi_key_2006.asc

If you just want to declare a repository as trusted just run:

gpg --recv-key KEY_ID  gpg -a --export KEY_ID | apt-key add -

where KEY_ID is a string after NO_PUBKEY. For example for Blackdown
at ftp.gwdg.de you should replace KEY_ID with BB5E459A529B8BDA.

And last but not least.
To be precise: by adding a key to apt-get keyring you will trust
_all_ repositories signed with this key.

 W: GPG error: ftp://debian.tu-bs.de testing Release: The following signatures 
 couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 
 010908312D230C5F
pub   1024D/2D230C5F 2006-01-03 [expires: 2007-02-07]
uid  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

Well, you have a 32bit Debian on your box, isn't it?
Only officially released architecures are signed with
Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key. This key is change every year and you
should check http://ftp-master.debian.org/ for updates.

AMD64 is not yet a part of official Debian release and it is
signed with different key you can fetch from:
ftp://debian.tu-bs.de:/debian-amd64/archive.key

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Re: install ifort 9.0 with alien...

2006-01-07 Thread Daniel Grimwood

Hi,

I just stumbled across the post (via a google search) on 13 Dec 2005 by 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] about getting the Intel em64t compilers to work on amd64 
debian.  I got this to work a couple of days ago so am just sharing how I did 
it...

Two points - first is the ia32-libs package needs to be installed (as Len 
Sorensen had suggested to Fred).
Second - dh_gencontrol does not know that em64t and amd64 are the same.  A 
solution is to manually change em64t to amd64 during the alien conversion of 
the Intel rpm.
1. alien -gsk to build a directory with all the necessary files - see the -g 
flag of alien in the man page.
2. edit the debian/control file and change the architecture from em64t to 
amd64.
3. run debian/rules binary to build the package.  It complains about some 
libstdc++ dependencies but apart from that it works for me.

Regards,
Daniel

On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 08:39:10PM +0100, fred wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I attempt to install intel fortran compiler 9.0 amd64/EM64T
 (intel-iforte9-9.0-021.em64t.rpm) with alien.
 
 But alien fails :
 alien intel-iforte9-9.0-021.em64t.rpm
 Package build failed. Here's the log:
 dh_testdir
 dh_testdir
 dh_testroot
 dh_clean -k -d
 dh_installdirs
 dh_installdocs
 dh_installchangelogs
 find . -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -not -name debian -print0 | \
 xargs -0 -r -i cp -a {} debian/intel-iforte9
 dh_compress
 dh_makeshlibs
 objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libcprts.so: File
 format not recognized
 objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libcxa.so: File
 format not recognized
 objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libcxaguard.so: File
 format not recognized
 objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libifcore.so: File
 format not recognized
 objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libifcoremt.so: File
 format not recognized
 objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libifport.so: File
 format not recognized
 objdump: debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/lib/libunwind.so: File
 format not recognized
 dh_installdeb
 dh_shlibdeps
 /usr/bin/ldd: line 1: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory
 ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with unknown exit code (127)
 dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: ldd on
 `debian/intel-iforte9/opt/intel/fce/9.0/bin/codecov' gave error exit
 status 1
 dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code 256
 make: [binary-arch] Error 1 (ignored)
 dh_gencontrol
 dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear
 in package's list (em64t)
 dh_gencontrol: command returned error code 65280
 make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1
 find: intel-iforte9-9.0: No such file or directory
 
 In fact, several *.so file are ascii text :
 cat libunwind.so
 INPUT ( libunwind.so.5 )
 
 I could link these files alien would erase them.
 
 What's wrong ?


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Re: How PGP-key update

2006-01-07 Thread Hans
Am Samstag, 7. Januar 2006 15:21 schrieb Artur R. Czechowski:
 Hi,

 On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 01:49:21PM +0100, Hans wrote:
  are there no pgp keys for testing or unstable ? Why will apt-get update
  do not update the keys ? Any clue ?

Hi Artur, that help was great !

It is working now ! Thank you very much !

 apt-get update should never ever update the keys automagically.
 There is you (The Administrator) who declare trusted sites.
 apt-get update can only refetch the {Release,Package,Source}.gpg and check
 signatures.

 Warnings you got from apt-get update just says that those repositories
 are not trusted.
 To trust declare the repository as trusted just should fetch a key
 for the repository, make sure it is a valid key then run apt-key add.
 For example, to make an official Debian repository trusted you should run:
 wget http://ftp-master.debian.org/ziyi_key_2006.asc
 apt-key add ziyi_key_2006.asc

 If you just want to declare a repository as trusted just run:

 gpg --recv-key KEY_ID  gpg -a --export KEY_ID | apt-key add -

I did so !

 where KEY_ID is a string after NO_PUBKEY. For example for Blackdown
 at ftp.gwdg.de you should replace KEY_ID with BB5E459A529B8BDA.

Yes, I understand now the mechanismen.

 And last but not least.
 To be precise: by adding a key to apt-get keyring you will trust
 _all_ repositories signed with this key.

  W: GPG error: ftp://debian.tu-bs.de testing Release: The following
  signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:
  NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F

 pub   1024D/2D230C5F 2006-01-03 [expires: 2007-02-07]
 uid  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Well, you have a 32bit Debian on your box, isn't it?

I have both on different computers: desktop is 32-bit (still) and notebook is 
64-bit (AMD)

 Only officially released architecures are signed with
 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key. This key is change every year and you
 should check http://ftp-master.debian.org/ for updates.

 AMD64 is not yet a part of official Debian release and it is
 signed with different key you can fetch from:
 ftp://debian.tu-bs.de:/debian-amd64/archive.key

Yes, this works, too !

 Best regards
   Artur


Thanks a lot !

Best regards

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Re: First Kernel Build Attempt Failed was: Re: 3ware 9550 SATA RAID controller problems

2006-01-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 06:37:43PM -0500, Stephen Woodbridge wrote:
 Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 01:11:04AM -0500, Stephen Woodbridge wrote:
 
 Tried to build my first kernel, but no joy. This is what I did ...
 
 cd /usr/src
 wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.15.tar.bz2
 
 
 Try getting the linux-source package from unstable instead.  It has
 debian's patches and such.  You can also get the config file from one of
 the newer kernels for your cpu as a start for oldconfig.  It's a big
 jump from 2.6.8 to 2.6.15.  A lot has changed.
 
 For that matter, you could probably see if there is a new linux-image
 package already for your cpu in unstable.  Would be even simpler.
 
 Len Sorensen
 
 
 I tried to install it:
 
 sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-em64t-p4-smp
 
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   linux-image-2.6.15-1-em64t-p4-smp: Depends: yaird but it is not going 
 to be installed or
   initramfs-tools but it is 
 not going to be installed or
   linux-initramfs-tool
 
 I tried to install yaird:
 
 sudo apt-get install yaird
 
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   yaird: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-22 is to be installed
 
 yaird is at backports.org but there are no amd64 arch packages at 
 backports.org.
 
 Someone mentioned back porting yaird, how would I go about doing that if 
 that is the right thing to do?

apt-get source -b yaird

If it has any build dependancies, do those too.

It only depends on libc6 2.3.5-1 because it was build on sid not sarge.

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Re: is it em64t ?

2006-01-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 11:00:44AM +0100, Jerome Warnier wrote:
 processor   : 0
[snip]
 physical id : 0
 siblings: 2
[snip]
 processor   : 1
 physical id : 0
 siblings: 2
[snip]

Both CPUs are physical ID 0 and both say they are part of a set of 2
siblings.  I am quite sure that means it is using hyperthreading, and is
not dual core or dual cpu.  Just hyperthreading.

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Re: Anyone willing to seed sarge amd64 isos?

2006-01-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 02:16:40PM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote:
 Well, in the past I had quite the opposite experiences. Jigdo downloads
 a lot of small files, and one extra HTTP query per file presents a
 _huge_ overhead. Downloading an image with jigdo is at least 2-4 times
 slower than downloading the single ISO image from the very same mirror.
 The interesting effect is that the faster your network connection the
 bigger the difference in speed will be.

wget uses persistent connections for every 10 files for jigdo, and the
overhead is maybe 100bytes per file.  There are not very many files in
debian where this will work out to more than 1% overhead.

 You can help somewhat if you increase the number of files to process in
 a batch (back when I played with it I had to edit the jigdo script for
 this; I don?t remember the numbers but about a 10 times increase
 noticably reduced the download time).

So change it to do 100 files at a time.  The few seconds for each batch
of 10 for the connection certainly could add up, and the persistent
connection used longer could help that.  Increases temp disk space
slightly of course.

 Jigdo helps only if you already have an older version of the image and
 there are not much updates.

Well for that it is very good.  It also doesn't use any outgoing
bandwidth, or depend on other people to be doing something special.
Much more reliable that way.  I find it no problem to saturate a decent
connection with jigdo, although upping the 10 files at a time does help.

Len Sorensen


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How do I know if...

2006-01-07 Thread Robert Cates

Hi,

I have not yet successfully installed an AMD64 port (tried several 
times, but keep getting a kernel panic for some reason), but when I do, 
I'd like to know and be sure that I'm using 64-bit mode, and not 32-bit 
mode.  How can I check this to make sure I'm running the AMD64 port 
installation in 64-bit mode?


Thanks much!
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Xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2 20060107025648

2006-01-07 Thread Angus Mackenzie
It's good to see this appear in the unstable repository.

Unfortunately I get a blank screen with it.

The video card is an ATI Radeon 9600 (RV350 AP) on an ASUS K8V-X main board

Kernel 2.6.15-1-amd64-k8. Processor AMD 64 3400+

SSH from another machine shows that the Xorg process is running at 99% or 
thereabouts. Console switching doesn't work and although kdm is called from 
the boot screen it doesn't get as far as appearing in the process table

In the process of trying to get to a usable screen I appear to have lost any 
helpful Xorg.0.log messages in favour of No screens found when trying fbdev 
before settling for vesa. But having just swapped xorg.conf files again I 
can't see many warnings other than dri being experimental and missing font 
directories; in particular it finishes with some routine looking warnings 
about already registered font renderers rather than any error messages or 
warnings.

I was looking forward to having my card supported by Xorg; no doubt in a few 
days it will be.

Did I post to the right place, and would you like me to post an affected log?

Angus Mackenzie


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Re: dpkg blows up on etch amd64

2006-01-07 Thread Ernest jw ter Kuile
On Saturday 07 January 2006 20:55, Aaron Stromas wrote:
 Greetings,

 Pid: 17468, comm: dpkg Not tainted 2.6.12-1-amd64-generic

is the Oops systematic ? (every time you do the upgrade), or sporadic ? in the 
second case you might have a hardware problem. possibly memory. Try checking 
it with memtest86+ (apt-get install memtest86+)

If it is systematic, as you are running an older kernel there is probably no 
point in sending this in as a kernel problem. Upgrading is your best bet.

What you could do on a short notice is change the kernel you use from the 
generic one to one of the specific kernels for your processor.

Etch has these other two kernel :

linux-image-2.6.12-10-em64t-p4
linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 

the first one runs best on Intel, the other one on AMD.

Cheers,

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Re: dpkg blows up on etch amd64

2006-01-07 Thread Aaron Stromas
On 1/7/06, Ernest jw ter Kuile [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 07 January 2006 20:55, Aaron Stromas wrote: Greetings, Pid: 17468, comm: dpkg Not tainted 2.6.12-1-amd64-genericis the Oops systematic ? (every time you do the upgrade), or sporadic ? in the
second case you might have a hardware problem. possibly memory. Try checkingit with memtest86+ (apt-get install memtest86+)If it is systematic, as you are running an older kernel there is probably nopoint in sending this in as a kernel problem. Upgrading is your best bet.
Systematic. What you could do on a short notice is change the kernel you use from the
generic one to one of the specific kernels for your processor. This is an AMD Athlon 3000 box running linux-image-2.6-amd64-generic kernel
Etch has these other two kernel :linux-image-2.6.12-10-em64t-p4linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8
the first one runs best on Intel, the other one on AMD.linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8, then? I'll give it a shot. Many thanks,-a
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SOLVED: dpkg blows up on etch amd64

2006-01-07 Thread Aaron Stromas
On 1/7/06, Ernest jw ter Kuile [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 07 January 2006 20:55, Aaron Stromas wrote: Greetings, Pid: 17468, comm: dpkg Not tainted 2.6.12-1-amd64-genericEtch has these other two kernel :linux-image-2.6.12-10-em64t-p4
linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8the first one runs best on Intel, the other one on AMD.Installing linux-image-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 (I have AMD Athlon) allows me to run apt-get. Thanks a 1M Ernest!
 -a


Re: How do I know if...

2006-01-07 Thread Aritz Beraza Garayalde [Rei]
2006/1/7, Robert Cates [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 I have not yet successfully installed an AMD64 port (tried several
 times, but keep getting a kernel panic for some reason), but when I do,

Maybe you have sata devices. You can have a punch of solutions to many
problems that appear during debian amd64 installation in the list
archive.

 I'd like to know and be sure that I'm using 64-bit mode, and not 32-bit
 mode.  How can I check this to make sure I'm running the AMD64 port
 installation in 64-bit mode?


I belive there's nothing like a switch or command to do this. Debian
AMD64 is a port based in a 64 bit kernel that supports either 32 and
64bit executables. Up till now all* the binary packages in debian
AMD64 are 64bit so you will be what you call 64bit mode. But with the
correct configuration and libs you can also run 32bit apps.

* I think there's a package with the 32bit version of Openoffice and
another package with 32bit librarys to easy the usage of 32 bit apps.

Regards
Aritz Beraza [Rei]
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Re: How do I know if...

2006-01-07 Thread David L. Johnson
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 01:18:12 +0100
Aritz Beraza Garayalde [Rei] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2006/1/7, Robert Cates [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi,
 
  I have not yet successfully installed an AMD64 port (tried several
  times, but keep getting a kernel panic for some reason), but when I do,
 
 Maybe you have sata devices. You can have a punch of solutions to many
 problems that appear during debian amd64 installation in the list
 archive.

Yeah, I had that fun.  But I did not get kernel panics, instead the
installation could not find the drive at all.  Unless the installation used a
newer kernel than was installed, this shouldn't have been the problem.
 
  I'd like to know and be sure that I'm using 64-bit mode, and not 32-bit
  mode.  How can I check this to make sure I'm running the AMD64 port
  installation in 64-bit mode?

uname -a

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Re: install ifort 9.0 with alien...

2006-01-07 Thread Daniel Grimwood

Giacomo Mulas wrote:


Yes, it works but... it will litter your nice standard debian filesystem
with foreign directories, such as /opt and friends which are so 
standard on
red hat, fedora and similar. I suggest (as I did myself) to add a 2.5 
step

in which you move files and directories to some decent debian-conforming
place. This also involves minimal editing of the executable scripts, 
but you
will get a clean, debian-conforming filesystem hierarchy, with no 
things in

odd places.


Yes that would be easy to do.  The executable scripts need editing 
anyway, so it's not much extra work.  I should rewrite my conversion 
script to do this properly.


I asked Joey Hess about em64t vs amd64 and he said it is fixed in alien 
8.61.


Regards,
Daniel.

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Re: is it em64t ?

2006-01-07 Thread Markus Boas
Just an example

powerrechner:/# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 4
model name  :   Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 3000.261
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm syscall nx lm 
constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr
bogomips: 6007.19
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 128
address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 4
model name  :   Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 3000.261
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 3
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm syscall nx lm 
constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr
bogomips: 6000.44
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 128
address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor   : 2
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 4
model name  :   Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 3000.261
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm syscall nx lm 
constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr
bogomips: 6000.42
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 128
address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor   : 3
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 4
model name  :   Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 3000.261
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 3
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm syscall nx lm 
constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr
bogomips: 6000.44
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 128
address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

This is a dual Xeon with ht.
Also an em64t.

Am Samstag 07 Januar 2006 20:43 schrieb Lennart Sorensen:
 On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 11:00:44AM +0100, Jerome Warnier wrote:
  processor   : 0

 [snip]

  physical id : 0
  siblings: 2

 [snip]

  processor   : 1
  physical id : 0
  siblings: 2

 [snip]

 Both CPUs are physical ID 0 and both say they are part of a set of 2
 siblings.  I am quite sure that means it is using hyperthreading, and is
 not dual core or dual cpu.  Just hyperthreading.

 Len Sorensen


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Re: First Kernel Build Attempt Failed was: Re: 3ware 9550 SATA RAID controller problems

2006-01-07 Thread Stephen Woodbridge
Fixed the cross-compile problem by adding --arch=amd64 to the make-kpkg 
command and the kernel compiles but of the package is strange and it 
will not install.


fakeroot make-kpkg --arch=amd64 --initrd --append-to-version=.20060107 
kernel-image


The package name is:

linux-image-2.6.15.20060107_2.6.15.20060107-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb

which is strange because I gave the target as kernel-image not 
linux-image and 2.6.15.20060107 is added to the name twice.


and yaird failed on the install see below.

-Steve

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src$ sudo dpkg -i 
linux-image-2.6.15.20060107_2.6.15.20060107-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb

Password:
Selecting previously deselected package linux-image-2.6.15.20060107.
(Reading database ... 41199 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking linux-image-2.6.15.20060107 (from 
linux-image-2.6.15.20060107_2.6.15.20060107-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb) ...

Done.
Setting up linux-image-2.6.15.20060107 (2.6.15.20060107-10.00.Custom) ...
Finding valid ramdisk creators.
Using mkinitrd.yaird to build the ramdisk.
yaird error: unknown kernel version: 2.6.15.20060107 (fatal)
mkinitrd.yaird failed to create initrd image.
Failed to create initrd image.
dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.15.20060107 (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 9
Errors were encountered while processing:
 linux-image-2.6.15.20060107
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src$ sudo dpkg -P linux-image-2.6.15.20060107
(Reading database ... 41349 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing linux-image-2.6.15.20060107 ...
Running postrm hook /sbin/update-grub .
Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub .
Purging configuration files for linux-image-2.6.15.20060107 ...
Running postrm hook /sbin/update-grub .
Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub .
dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.15.20060107 (--purge):
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 128
Errors were encountered while processing:
 linux-image-2.6.15.20060107



Stephen Woodbridge wrote:
OK, I am making some progress ... I found this link and it seems pretty 
clean and straight forward.


http://www.dominik-epple.de/Sarge-Linux_2.6.14-yaird/

and I have followed these steps except I'm using 2.6.15, ie:

Backporting yaird, texi2html, make, kernel-package

I spent all day going through menuconfig and follow an example config 
file the Andrew sent me.


But when I try to compile the kernel it looks like it thinks it should 
be trying to cross compile. I'm wonder if it is somehow confused by the 
packages I backported?


$ fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=.20060107 kernel-image

[snip]

/usr/bin/make  EXTRAVERSION=.20060107  ARCH=x86_64 \
CROSS_COMPILE=x86_64-linux- bzImage
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.15'
  CHK include/linux/version.h
  CC  scripts/mod/empty.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/mod/mk_elfconfig
  MKELF   scripts/mod/elfconfig.h
  HOSTCC  scripts/mod/file2alias.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/mod/modpost.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/mod/sumversion.o
  HOSTLD  scripts/mod/modpost
  HOSTCC  scripts/kallsyms
  HOSTCC  scripts/conmakehash
  CC  init/main.o
  CHK include/linux/compile.h
  UPD include/linux/compile.h
  CC  init/version.o
  CC  init/do_mounts.o
  CC  init/do_mounts_rd.o
  CC  init/do_mounts_initrd.o
  LD  init/mounts.o
/bin/sh: line 1: x86_64-linux-ld: command not found
make[2]: *** [init/mounts.o] Error 127
make[1]: *** [init] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.15'
make: *** [debian/stamp-build-kernel] Error 2





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Re: Anyone willing to seed sarge amd64 isos?

2006-01-07 Thread cmetzler

Am following the discussion of jigdo with interest -- but in the meantime,
no need to cc: me directly on all the posts; I'm subscribed to the list.

Thanks!

-c





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Re: How do I know if...

2006-01-07 Thread Carl Johnson
David L. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 01:18:12 +0100
 Aritz Beraza Garayalde [Rei] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  2006/1/7, Robert Cates [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Hi,
  
   I have not yet successfully installed an AMD64 port (tried several
   times, but keep getting a kernel panic for some reason), but when I do,
  
  Maybe you have sata devices. You can have a punch of solutions to many
  problems that appear during debian amd64 installation in the list
  archive.
 
 Yeah, I had that fun.  But I did not get kernel panics, instead the
 installation could not find the drive at all.  Unless the installation used a
 newer kernel than was installed, this shouldn't have been the problem.
  
   I'd like to know and be sure that I'm using 64-bit mode, and not 32-bit
   mode.  How can I check this to make sure I'm running the AMD64 port
   installation in 64-bit mode?
 
 uname -a

No, that will just tell you if you have a 64-bit kernel, but that
kernel can be used for 32-bit installations as well.  I think you
might have to resort to something like 'file $SHELL' and look for
'64-bit'.

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Re: First Kernel Build Attempt Failed - PROGRESS and new problem

2006-01-07 Thread Stephen Woodbridge

Progress of sorts ...

If I haven't mentioned it, I would like to say thanks to all for there 
comments, suggestions and support and special thanks Lennart and Andrew.


After more reading and more attempts,

I added to:

/etc/kernel-img.conf:

ramdisk = /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird


and I changed my make-kpkg params to:

fakeroot make-kpkg --arch=amd64 --append-to-version=.20060107  kernel-image

eg: I dropped the --initrd option as the kernel is monolithic with no 
modules and the kernel built and installed!


reboot produces lots of messages the fly by to fast to read and ends up 
with:


VFS: Cannot open root device sda1 or unknown-block (8,1)
Please append a correct root= boot option.
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 
unknown-block (8,1)


sda1 is the root device on the old kernel, and I'm guessing that (8,1) 
is probably the 3ware controller. It is possible that I have not 
configured the correct drivers for the hardware. My working 2.6.8 kernel 
has:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
ipv6  280552  18
3w_9xxx36100  0
ext3  121616  5
jbd64176  1 ext3
mbcache11400  1 ext3
tsdev   9472  0
mousedev   12628  0
evdev  11648  0
psmouse20108  0
genrtc 11516  0
sd_mod 22400  7
usb_storage69184  0
e1000  83588  0
ide_cd 42784  0
cdrom  39848  1 ide_cd
ide_disk   21504  0
ide_generic 2816  0
generic 6528  0
ide_core  154688  5 
usb_storage,ide_cd,ide_disk,ide_generic,generic

floppy 65104  0
fbcon  32164  70
vga16fb14464  1
vgastate   10240  1 vga16fb
usbserial  33008  0
usbkbd  8960  0
ehci_hcd   32132  0
uhci_hcd   33056  0
thermal15116  0
processor  15224  1 thermal
fan 5512  0
ata_piix9988  6
libata 42888  1 ata_piix
scsi_mod  131072  4 3w_9xxx,sd_mod,usb_storage,libata
unix   32032  26
font   10112  1 fbcon
vesafb  7984  0
cfbcopyarea 5120  2 vga16fb,vesafb
cfbimgblt   4352  2 vga16fb,vesafb
cfbfillrect 5248  2 vga16fb,vesafb

I have attached the config-workinprogress.txt file.
#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
# Linux kernel version: 2.6.15.20060107
# Sun Jan  8 02:05:29 2006
#
CONFIG_X86_64=y
CONFIG_64BIT=y
CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_SEMAPHORE_SLEEPERS=y
CONFIG_MMU=y
CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CALIBRATE_DELAY=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y
CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_CLEAN_COMPILE=y
CONFIG_LOCK_KERNEL=y
CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=
# CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO is not set
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y
CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT_V3 is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
# CONFIG_AUDIT is not set
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
CONFIG_KOBJECT_UEVENT=y
# CONFIG_IKCONFIG is not set
# CONFIG_CPUSETS is not set
CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE=
# CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE is not set
# CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set
CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y
# CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set
CONFIG_PRINTK=y
CONFIG_BUG=y
CONFIG_BASE_FULL=y
CONFIG_FUTEX=y
CONFIG_EPOLL=y
CONFIG_SHMEM=y
CONFIG_CC_ALIGN_FUNCTIONS=0
CONFIG_CC_ALIGN_LABELS=0
CONFIG_CC_ALIGN_LOOPS=0
CONFIG_CC_ALIGN_JUMPS=0
# CONFIG_TINY_SHMEM is not set
CONFIG_BASE_SMALL=0

#
# Loadable module support
#
# CONFIG_MODULES is not set

#
# Block layer
#
# CONFIG_LBD is not set

#
# IO Schedulers
#
CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y
# CONFIG_DEFAULT_AS is not set
# CONFIG_DEFAULT_DEADLINE is not set
CONFIG_DEFAULT_CFQ=y
# CONFIG_DEFAULT_NOOP is not set
CONFIG_DEFAULT_IOSCHED=cfq

#
# Processor type and features
#
# CONFIG_MK8 is not set
CONFIG_MPSC=y
# CONFIG_GENERIC_CPU is not set
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_BYTES=128
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=7
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
# CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set
CONFIG_X86_MSR=y
CONFIG_X86_CPUID=y
CONFIG_X86_HT=y
CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y
CONFIG_MTRR=y
CONFIG_SMP=y
# CONFIG_SCHED_SMT is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL is not set
# CONFIG_NUMA is not set
CONFIG_ARCH_FLATMEM_ENABLE=y
CONFIG_SELECT_MEMORY_MODEL=y
CONFIG_FLATMEM_MANUAL=y
# CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM_MANUAL is not set
# CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_MANUAL is not set
CONFIG_FLATMEM=y
CONFIG_FLAT_NODE_MEM_MAP=y
# CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_STATIC is not set
CONFIG_SPLIT_PTLOCK_CPUS=4