Re: kernel 2.6.15, PPP, keyboard failure and freezing

2006-01-27 Thread Brendon Higgins
Hi again.

By having a look at syslog after a freeze I discovered that the kernel was 
oopsing:

Jan 28 09:05:16 phi kernel: skb_over_panic: text:8876790c len:1 put:1 
head:810022437000 data:810122437000 tail:810122437001 
end:810022437600 dev:
Jan 28 09:05:16 phi kernel: --- [cut here ] - [please bite 
here ] -
Jan 28 09:05:16 phi kernel: Kernel BUG at net/core/skbuff.c:94
Jan 28 09:05:16 phi kernel: invalid operand:  [1] SMP
Jan 28 09:05:16 phi kernel: CPU 1
[...etc...]

On the suggestion of Christoph Fassbach I gave wvdial a whirl to see if it 
behaved similarly. It seemed to work flawlessly, until a couple of minutes 
after connecting when the machine froze, much like it had done when using 
KPPP. wvdail seems to give a delayed reaction. A similar result appears in 
syslog.

A bit of googling with the syslog stuff and I found that this problem is known 
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=347711, 
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5857), has been discussed 
(http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/1/15/113), and a patch exists 
(http://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=7086&action=view).

I'll add a note to the Debian bug shortly.

Peace,
Brendon


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Re: Bug#309072: azureus: crashes on startup. An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot VM:SIGSEGV

2006-01-27 Thread EXT-Kizhakkedathmana, Deepak


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Re: Re-install grub.

2006-01-27 Thread Marcin Dębicki
Thierry LARMIER kiedys napisal:

> 2d solution
> # mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/root
> # chroot /mnt/root   > I have an error here
> # grub-install /dev/hda
> # exit
> 
> 
> I think it's not working because knoppix run in 32bit.
Yes, it works because of that. Use 64bit live system. I don't know if you've
done it but after making chroot go to / and type mount -t proc proc proc or
mount -a. You need proc to run grub-install

Done a couple times with SuSE rescue system (the 64bit live I have)
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Re: is it em64t ?

2006-01-27 Thread Marcin Dębicki
zzz haha kiedys napisal:

> If I have a HT cpu, should I use smp kernel image?
Yes, you should if you want two logical cpus

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Re: SATA, RAID, A8N-E, 3800+ help

2006-01-27 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Helge Hafting wrote:

> The fact that you _need_ a raid driver in window is a strong hint that the
> raid is implemented in software - a hw raid controller can be made to look
> like a single disk on a standard controller - both linux and windows can
> then handle it without special drivers.

Most all true hardware raid cards require drivers. At least under Linux,
and I believe under Windows as well.


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aic79xx and hotswap

2006-01-27 Thread Andreas Gredler
Hi,

Today I installed amd64 on a IBM x346. Everything works fine, except the
hostraid. Anyway, I prefer mdadm, so I left the RAID unconfigured.
When I started to test hot swap by removing one HD I realized that the
aic79xx module seems to crash sometimes. In the worst case the whole
kernel crashed. I also tried a 2.6.15 kernel, which didn't make it
better.
How did I test: I removed the hd, then I used scsiadd to remove the hd.
After inserting the hd I executed scsiadd again. Also tried to use the
rescan-scsi-bus script, which didn't work at all.

Did someone make the same experiences or has even found a solution?

greets Jimmy

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Re: fakeroot problem on AMD 64

2006-01-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi,

> I am getting the following error, when I use the fakeroot (version 1.5.6) on
> AMD opteron machine.
> 
> "error while loading shared libraries: libfakeroot.so.0: cannot open shared
> object file: No shuch file or directory."
> 
> Can you please suggest a way out for this problem.

You probably need a bit more context


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Re: udev+amd64

2006-01-27 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 05:05:17PM +0100, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote:
> Hi 
>I am trying to run a program using USB hardware. I added the following 
> lines to /etc/udev/permissions.rules:
> SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device",GROUP="plugdev", \
> SYSFS{idVendor}=="0abf", SYSFS{idProduct}=="3370"
> Since then I have upgraded udev to 0.82-1 and reastarted my computer but the 
> program only works when run as root. A normal user does not have the 
> permissions to write to the device ( I am in the plugdev group ).
>I do run the same program on an i386 machine and there everything works 
> when run as a normal user with the same lines in /etc/udev/permissions.rules.

I always have to re-do my permissions.rules file after an upgrade.
Check that your mods are still present.  Aside from that possibility, I
have no idea.

Cheers,

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Re: [SPAM] Re: apt-get: Where to get the gpg-key?

2006-01-27 Thread Fielder George Dowding
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Ha! Yes, my mistake. Apparently the package debian-archive-keyring was
already installed on my amd64 (HP Pavilion zv6000 series - zv6100 in
bios, zv6201cl on paper label), but it just popped up in the i386
mirror. My error. fgd.

J. Paul Bissonnette wrote:
> I know it is in the i32 repository, have used it with the amd64 yet.
> Just got a amd64, haven't had much time to get the 64 bit OS running.
> 
> Sorry for all the posting, I hit Reply to all by mistake, try not to do
> that again, I hope. :)
> 
> Fielder George Dowding wrote:
> 
> Hmmm... it appears that the package debian-archive-keyring is new at
> least to my local mirror which I have just updated today. fgd.
> 
> J. Paul Bissonnette wrote:
>  
> 
 rainer herrendoerfer wrote:

   

> Hi,
> During
>
> # apt-get update
>
> I received the
>
> "GPG error ...  NO_PUBKEY 22DB56F984478DDF"
>
> I tried
>
> # gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 22DB56F984478DDF
>
> but:
> gpg: requesting key 84478DDF from hkp server wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net
> gpgkeys: key 22DB56F984478DDF not found on keyserver
>
> keyring.debian.org worked neither. What did I miss?
>
> Raina
>
>
>
>
> 

 try
 apt-get install debian-archive-keyring
 then apt-get update

 Paul

   
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Re: Debian ADM64 Etch (testing/unstable) system freeze

2006-01-27 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 01:57:59AM +0200, Rami Saarinen wrote:
> On Thursday 26 January 2006 15:21, Andrew Syrewicze wrote:
> > I wouldn't rule out the possibility of your processor getting to hot. The
> > newcastle cores aren't as solid as venice cores, and i hear they run a
> > little hotter too. I use a venice core and i can overclock the crap out of
> > that thing. (with a huge thermaltake fan on it of course ) :-P.
> >
> > Anyway i would start by checking your cpu temp. I would first check in
> > BIOS.
> 
> Froze two times again today. First time I was moving a 2.1 Gb file to another 
> location on the disk and the second time I was doing the same as in the my 
> previous post. This time I was lucky as there was actually some output. 
> 
> First time froze with: "kernel stack segment  [1]"
> and the second: "general protection fault "
> 
> Afrer reboot I checked the temperature from BIOS - 32 celsius, so it is not 
> overheating issue. 
> 
> I doubt the memory issue also as I'd expect alternating symptoms like 
> programs 
> crashing etc. not just full system freeze every time. (?)
> Thanks for everyone for help. 

I don't know why you would assume that.  Memory problems can cause
any/all of these symptoms, but don't have to cause any particular one.
It sure sounds like a hardware/memory problem to me.

Cheers,

a



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Re: How big will the 32-bit chroot end up being? What goes in these days?

2006-01-27 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 09:50:10AM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Thomas Steffen wrote:
> 
> >On 1/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>So, as I understand it, the following stuff would need to go into the
> >>32-bit chroot (assuming one wants/needs these things):
> >>
> >>- Sun's J2RE
> >>
> >>- OpenOffice
> >>
> >>- Flash
> >>
> >>- RealPlayer/Helix/whatever
> >>
> >>- win32codecs + other misc A/V codecs one might scrounge up elsewhere
> >>
> >>- Any web browser that you want to be able to use Java/Flash/embedded
> >>AV stuff in
> >>
> >>- the Acrobat Reader
> >>
> >>- cdrecord/cdrdao plus whatever front end you're using to call them
> >>
> >>Is that correct?  Anything I'm missing?
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Don't forget all the dependencies that all pulled in by these apps.
> >You might end up with nearly a typical Linux installation.
> > 
> >
> Not quite that bad.  There is no need for the xserver for example,
> as the 32-bit processes have no problem talking to the 64-bit server.
> And of course the chroot don't need any utilities, bootup scripts,
> window managers, printing subsystem, login software . . .

You will need the printing client software, however.  I discovered that
when I tried to print from OO the other day.

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Re: How big will the 32-bit chroot end up being? What goes in these days?

2006-01-27 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 03:39:09AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi; thanks for your reply.  No need to cc me; I read the list.
> 
> Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 05:34:13AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> So, as I understand it, the following stuff would need to go into the
> >> 32-bit chroot (assuming one wants/needs these things):
> >> 
> >> - Sun's J2RE
> > 
> > There is 64bit java as far as I know.  Not sure about browser plugins.
> 
> Heh.  I had assumed that Sun didn't have an AMD64 version out; but
> I just went and looked, and there it is.  Thanks for the tip.

You forgot I guess that Sun sells tons and tons of these machines now,
so amd64 is likely to be well supported by their software.

Cheers,

a


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Re: No swap on my Debian Sid system

2006-01-27 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 08:51:01PM +0100, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
> Ok, this is funny. I doublechecked some things on my system, and here's a
> couple of useful outputs:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
> DEVICE partitions
> ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid1 num-devices=2 
> UUID=9dae3f6b:a3e79fbb:6044c75b:9f1939bd
> ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 
> UUID=6f583480:58ae2560:eac2cfa7:882022da
> ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2
> UUID=877c34c4:dfed29c7:4338e75f:35082da1
> 
> So, /dev/md1 (the one created during installation for swap raid) exists,
> but:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dmesg | grep md1
> md: md1 stopped.
> 
> I asked myself why:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /sbin/mdadm -Q /dev/md1
> Password:
> /dev/md1: is an md device which is not active
> /dev/md1: is too small to be an md component.
> 
> And mdstat says:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/mdstat
> Personalities : [raid1]
> md2 : active raid1 sda3[0] sdb3[1]
>   229046656 blocks [2/2] [UU]
> 
> md0 : active raid1 sda1[0] sdb1[1]
>   14651136 blocks [2/2] [UU]
> 
> unused devices: 
> 
> I looked for bugs on Debian and this one looks quite right (and s long
> to read):
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=294404

Yeah, udev and raid have a few problems to work out, although it works
pretty well now.  Mostly.  For md0 anyway.  I had a problem where my
machine got power-outed, and when I booted it back up, the md0 raid device
(root device) was running degraded.  I never got the email, either ~:^)
The tip off was that I was very used to the super fast read performance,
which wasn't there anymore.  When the box seemed "slow" I started poking
around for the reason.  Bottom line, you have to check your raid devices
after a boot to make sure they're all up and running correctly.

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Re: is it em64t ?

2006-01-27 Thread zzz haha
If I have a HT cpu, should I use smp kernel image?

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 4
model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 2661.169
cache size  : 1024 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm
pni monitor ds_cpl tm2 cid cx16 xtpr
bogomips: 5325.45

Thanks



Re: is it em64t ?

2006-01-27 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:38:08PM -0400, Peter Cordes wrote:
>  I think that's all wrong.  The flags are more or less a decoding of the
> CPUID result codes.
> 
>  As for HT, my dad's old laptop 1.7GHz P4-mobile (Northwood) has the ht
> flag, but it sure as hell doesn't have two logical CPUs.  I looked at (but
> didn't really come close to understanding ;P) the relevant kernel code, and I

Nak.  Are you sure you are running an SMP kernel on it?  The ht flag means
that the processor is hyperthreading capable.  If your dad's lappy doesn't
show 2 cpus, it may be because HT is disabled in the BIOS.  If the BIOS
doesn't have an option for enabling HT, then check for a BIOS update!
Some manufacturers actually shipped machines with HT capable processors
in the early days that couldn't do HT.  Doesn't mean the processor wasn't
capable of it.

Cheers,

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Re: high load average?

2006-01-27 Thread Matthias Julius
"michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When a server is completely idle, shouldn't the load average be 0.00 ?
> and only showing 1 total tasks running? This one flips between 2 and 1 all 
> the time. (at idle times)

You don't have any daemons running?

> Is there any other way to figure out what that other process might be?

top itself maybe?

Matthias


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added mainboard on wiki page

2006-01-27 Thread Steven Haslam
I just installed debian-amd64, and I've added my motherboard
(GA-7VT890-9) to the Mainboards wiki.debian.org page, since it wasn't
there already. No problems, except a couple of odd spurious warnings
from ReiserFS which don't seem to have had any effect, and haven't
happened since.. hmm. NB I put in to use the sk98lin from SysKonnect
since that worked for i386-- I haven't got round to doing it for amd64
yet, but it was already on the page for other boards so I assume it's OK.

I find myself doing an ldd on something every now and then just to see :)

SRH


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high load average?

2006-01-27 Thread michael
hello,
Have amd64 sarge installed with a 2.6.15 em64t kernel.
I was noticing that top was showing some processes running and thought it was 
a little high. I took a copy of the top command and pasted below.
This server was sitting doing nothing at that time, but shows I have 2 
running. 
When a server is completely idle, shouldn't the load average be 0.00 ?
and only showing 1 total tasks running? This one flips between 2 and 1 all 
the time. (at idle times)
Is there any other way to figure out what that other process might be?

Thanks for any help!
cheers,
Mike



top - 08:10:02 up 3 days, 23:12,  1 user,  load average: 0.40, 0.41, 0.41
Tasks:  83 total,   2 running,  81 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.0% us,  0.0% sy,  0.0% ni, 100.0% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Mem:   2060168k total,  2038336k used,21832k free,23124k buffers
Swap:0k total,0k used,0k free,  1540540k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
1 root  16   0  2664  564  480 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.19 init
2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
3 root  RT   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 watchdog/0
4 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 events/0
5 root  13  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 khelper
6 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthread
8 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.22 kblockd/0
   11 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 khubd
   13 root  20  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kacpid
  153 root  18  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 aio/0
  152 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   1:04.95 kswapd0
  755 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kseriod
  853 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ata/0
  857 root  11  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 scsi_eh_0
  858 root  11  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 scsi_eh_1
  927 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:03.29 md1_raid1
  959 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:03.47 md2_raid1


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udev+amd64

2006-01-27 Thread Gudjon I. Gudjonsson
Hi 
   I am trying to run a program using USB hardware. I added the following 
lines to /etc/udev/permissions.rules:
SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device",GROUP="plugdev", \
SYSFS{idVendor}=="0abf", SYSFS{idProduct}=="3370"
Since then I have upgraded udev to 0.82-1 and reastarted my computer but the 
program only works when run as root. A normal user does not have the 
permissions to write to the device ( I am in the plugdev group ).
   I do run the same program on an i386 machine and there everything works 
when run as a normal user with the same lines in /etc/udev/permissions.rules.

Thanks
Gudjon


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Re: apt-get: Where to get the gpg-key?

2006-01-27 Thread J. Paul Bissonnette
I know it is in the i32 repository, have used it with the amd64 yet. 
Just got a amd64, haven't had much time to get the 64 bit OS running.


Sorry for all the posting, I hit Reply to all by mistake, try not to do 
that again, I hope. :)


Fielder George Dowding wrote:


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Hmmm... it appears that the package debian-archive-keyring is new at
least to my local mirror which I have just updated today. fgd.

J. Paul Bissonnette wrote:
 


rainer herrendoerfer wrote:

   


Hi,
During

# apt-get update

I received the

"GPG error ...  NO_PUBKEY 22DB56F984478DDF"

I tried

# gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 22DB56F984478DDF

but:
gpg: requesting key 84478DDF from hkp server wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net
gpgkeys: key 22DB56F984478DDF not found on keyserver

keyring.debian.org worked neither. What did I miss?

Raina




 


try
apt-get install debian-archive-keyring
then apt-get update

Paul

   



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Re: [a-users] Re: ITP: fmit -- free music instrument tuner

2006-01-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi,

I'm trying to debug why 'fmit' is so unstable on my unstable amd64
box.  Backtrace is looking suspiciously too qt to be application
specific.  Anyone seen this kind of backtrace recently? At first sight
it looks like some allocator bug.


[21:53:00]dancer64:trunk> gdb /usr/bin/fmit
GNU gdb 6.4-debian
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[New Thread 47596280818048 (LWP 16294)]
Free Music Instrument Tuner version 0.96.4 built at Jan 27 2006 21:51:28
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#7  0x2b49de6aaa37 in __nss_passwd_lookup () from /lib/libc.so.6
#8  0x2b49de65f4cc in getpwuid_r@@GLIBC_2.2.5 () from /lib/libc.so.6
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#10 0x2b49dd9814b9 in QSessionManager::setRestartCommand () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#11 0x2b49dd981990 in QSessionManager::setRestartCommand () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#12 0x2b49dc8ba43a in _SmcProcessMessage () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6
#13 0x2b49dc9c784d in IceProcessMessages () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6
#14 0x2b49dd97bb9f in QSmSocketReceiver::socketActivated () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
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/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
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/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#17 0x2b49dda61d8b in QObject::activate_signal () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#18 0x2b49dddca052 in QSocketNotifier::activated () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#19 0x2b49dda805aa in QSocketNotifier::event () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#20 0x2b49dd9fb000 in QApplication::internalNotify () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#21 0x2b49dd9fb264 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#22 0x2b49dd98bc6a in QApplication::sendEvent () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#23 0x2b49dd9ed711 in QEventLoop::activateSocketNotifiers () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#24 0x2b49dd99f45f in QEventLoop::processEvents () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#25 0x2b49dda12cde in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#26 0x2b49dda12be7 in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#27 0x2b49dd9f9de6 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#28 0x00421435 in main ()


regards,
junichi
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Re: SATA, RAID, A8N-E, 3800+ help

2006-01-27 Thread thierry

Keith Ballantyne wrote:


Hi,

I recently bought an Asus A8N-E mobo and AMD64 3800+ CPU.  I then 
bought RAM, a case, and an ATI 300-based PCI Express 16 video card.  I 
used netinstall sarge and managed to install 32-bit using the 2.6 
kernel (as the 2.4 kernel wouldn't recognize my network card).


...a few days passed, and I realized that I wanted the 64-bit core.  I 
recompiled the kernel, and then realized there was a 64-bit 
distribution, so I downloaded both the testing release (Etch) and the 
31r1a netinstalls. 31r1a didn't recognize my onboard network, but Etch 
did.


For the 31r1a to recognize your network, if it went as in my case, the 
installer shouldhave proposed you with a list of network modules. You 
have to choose something call nforether,I believe.





...a few more days passed and I decided to buy 4 SATA II drives in an 
attempt to run RAID 0+1.  I configured the BIOS and ran the installer, 
but the installer sees hda through hdd rather than a single RAID 
drive.  In subsequent research (including this list archive) it 
appears that the BIOS RAID is considered 'inferior' to the software 
RAID support in Linux.  So, my questions are:


   1) Why is the ASUS BIOS RAID inferior to software RAID on Linux?
   2) Is it possible to install 31r1a instead of the Etch release (I'm 
not overly keen on working with Etch, but will do it if it's a better 
64-bit option...In the few days I played with 64-bit Etch it seemed to 
work well, but I didn't have most of the utilties I need available 
from the installer/package manager).

   3) Do I need to flash the BIOS for things to work?
   4) Is ATI 300 support better in Etch?

Thanks,

ihcfan




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Re: SATA, RAID, A8N-E, 3800+ help

2006-01-27 Thread Helge Hafting

Keith Ballantyne wrote:


Hi,

I recently bought an Asus A8N-E mobo and AMD64 3800+ CPU.  I then 
bought RAM, a case, and an ATI 300-based PCI Express 16 video card.  I 
used netinstall sarge and managed to install 32-bit using the 2.6 
kernel (as the 2.4 kernel wouldn't recognize my network card).


...a few days passed, and I realized that I wanted the 64-bit core.  I 
recompiled the kernel, and then realized there was a 64-bit 
distribution, so I downloaded both the testing release (Etch) and the 
31r1a netinstalls. 31r1a didn't recognize my onboard network, but Etch 
did.


...a few more days passed and I decided to buy 4 SATA II drives in an 
attempt to run RAID 0+1.  I configured the BIOS and ran the installer, 
but the installer sees hda through hdd rather than a single RAID 
drive.  In subsequent research (including this list archive) it 
appears that the BIOS RAID is considered 'inferior' to the software 
RAID support in Linux.  So, my questions are:


   1) Why is the ASUS BIOS RAID inferior to software RAID on Linux?


Not necessarily inferior, but _unnecessary_.

As others have pointed out, this is not a real raid controller. The bios 
does

software raid, and the windows driver for the card does software raid
for windows (if you use windows at all, that is.)

The fact that you _need_ a raid driver in window is a strong hint that the
raid is implemented in software - a hw raid controller can be made to look
like a single disk on a standard controller - both linux and windows can
then handle it without special drivers.

So, in order to use a raid with this controller you need a software driver
for it.  And one exist - the linux software raid (md).  It offers raid 
0+1, among

other things.  You can get more space from your 4 disks with raid-5, but
raid 0+1 will probably have better performance if you get the stripe 
size right.


Note that bios raid and linux sw raid isn't compatible, so you have to
turn bios raid off in order to use linux sw raid.  There is no loss 
involved in

doing this though.

   2) Is it possible to install 31r1a instead of the Etch release (I'm 
not overly keen on working with Etch, but will do it if it's a better 
64-bit option...In the few days I played with 64-bit Etch it seemed to 
work well, but I didn't have most of the utilties I need available 
from the installer/package manager).

   3) Do I need to flash the BIOS for things to work?


No - linux doesn't use the bios.  The bios is only used to set up some 
hardware at

power-on time, and to load the linux kernel which then takes over everything
with its own drivers.  Flashing the bios is sometimes useful if the old
bios has bugs.  Or if you want to do something radical like running 
linuxbios.



   4) Is ATI 300 support better in Etch?


I haven't tried, but I have the impression that unstable/experimental
have more and better support for 3D.  But of course there are more
bugs to stumble over as well. You may want to try xserver-xorg  
6.9.0.dfsg.1-4.

(Also upgrade all the accompagnying libx... packages, xserver-common,
libdrm and mesa packages. 
Write down the list of packages upgraded, so you can back out if

you hit some showstopper bug.


Helge Hafting


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Re: How big will the 32-bit chroot end up being? What goes in these days?

2006-01-27 Thread Helge Hafting

Thomas Steffen wrote:


On 1/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


So, as I understand it, the following stuff would need to go into the
32-bit chroot (assuming one wants/needs these things):

- Sun's J2RE

- OpenOffice

- Flash

- RealPlayer/Helix/whatever

- win32codecs + other misc A/V codecs one might scrounge up elsewhere

- Any web browser that you want to be able to use Java/Flash/embedded
AV stuff in

- the Acrobat Reader

- cdrecord/cdrdao plus whatever front end you're using to call them

Is that correct?  Anything I'm missing?
   



Don't forget all the dependencies that all pulled in by these apps.
You might end up with nearly a typical Linux installation.
 


Not quite that bad.  There is no need for the xserver for example,
as the 32-bit processes have no problem talking to the 64-bit server.
And of course the chroot don't need any utilities, bootup scripts,
window managers, printing subsystem, login software . . .

Most of the dependencies are libraries.  You could end up with a
sizable chunk of those though.

Also consider 64-bit equivalents.  CD burning can be done in 64-bit.
Frontend software can always be 64-bit even if it controls a 32-bit
program doing the work. (Browser+plugin is different, as the plugin
isn't a freestanding program.  It links into the browser.)

Adobe acrobat has a 64-bit alternative in xpdf.  Xpdf sure looks
different - maybe it isn't a perfect replacement - but it is fine
for reading and printing pdf documents.

32-bit java is also something you may be able to do without.
64-bit java is fine for all non-browser use - but of course there is
no plugin for mozilla.  For java in a 64-bit webbrowser, use
64-bit konqueror and 64-bit java 1.5.0-4 from Sun.  It passes the
test at http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml,
and works with java games at www.darkfish.com.  I have not
been able to use it for internet banks that use java, but only a
stupid bank forces the customers like that - there are other banks!

Some people need openoffice, but there are certainly good alternatives.
I use lyx for writing (better typography and much faster)
gnumeric for spreadsheets (much faster, and just as excel-compatible)
and abiword (much faster) when I need to exchange
something word-compatible with others.

Helge Hafting


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