Re: Installing cinelerra on sid

2006-03-28 Thread sonic_th
Hi andrea,

i've never installed the binary packages, i've always built it from the source.

I have this sources.list:
deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://amd64.debian.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

# Fuentes del cinelerra
deb-src http://www.kiberpipa.org/~minmax/cinelerra/builds/sid/ ./

# Repositorio de marillat para amd64
deb http://spello.sscnet.ucla.edu/marillat/ sid main
# Para el dvdcss
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main

# Sources Marillat
deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main

I'm not sure if cinelerra sources (via apt-get source cinelerra) come from
marillat or kiberpipa, anyway...

Before the compilation starts i've always changed the command for ./configure
in debian/rules, this is my line modified:

CFLAGS=$(CFLAGS) CXXFLAGS=$(CXXFLAGS) \
./configure --prefix=/usr --with-pic

And the CFLAGS is:
CFLAGS=-ffast-math -O3 -march=athlon64

I hope this can help you.


On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:01:21 +0200
Andrea Tacchetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Installing cinelerra on sid

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Re: Installing cinelerra on sid

2006-03-28 Thread valentina messeri
 Hi every one,

   I'm trying to install cinelerra on sid, I'm following this
   guide :

   http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html

   Although it fails in solving some dependencies, here is some
   output from apt:

 $ sudo apt-get update

 Hit ftp://ftp.it.debian.org unstable Release.gpg
 Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release.gpg
 Hit ftp://ftp.it.debian.org unstable Release
 Get:1 ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release [2864B]
 Hit ftp://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/main Packages
 Hit ftp://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages
 Hit ftp://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages
 Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid/main Packages
 Hit ftp://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/main Sources
 Hit ftp://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/contrib Sources
 Hit ftp://ftp.it.debian.org unstable/non-free Sources
 Ign http://hackitectura.net ./ Release.gpg
 Ign http://hackitectura.net ./ Release
 Ign http://hackitectura.net ./ Packages
 Ign http://hackitectura.net ./ Sources
 Hit http://hackitectura.net ./ Packages
 Hit http://hackitectura.net ./ Sources
 Scaricato 2864B in 16s (173B/s)
 Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso...

 $ sudo apt-get install cinelerra

 Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso...
 Generazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso...
 Alcuni pacchetti non possono essere installati. Questo può voler
 dire che è stata richiesta una situazione impossibile oppure, se
 si sta usando la distribuzione unstable, che alcuni pacchetti
 richiesti non sono ancora stati creati o rimossi da incoming.

 Poiché è stata richiesta solo una singola operazione è molto facile che
 il pacchetto semplicemente non sia installabile, si consiglia
 di inviare un bug report per tale pacchetto.
 Le seguenti informazioni possono aiutare a risolvere la situazione:

 I seguenti pacchetti hanno dipendenze non soddisfatte:
   cinelerra: Dipende: liblame0 (= 3.96.1-1) ma non è installabile
  Dipende: libmjpegtools0 (= 1:1.8.0) ma non è installabile
  Dipende: libquicktimehv (= 1:2.0.0) ma non sta per essere
 installato
  Dipende: libquicktimehv (= 1:2.0.0-1svn20060213) ma non sta
 per essere installato

hi.well, i'm italian too and the amd64 packaging manteiner.i think
you only need to add marillat source in order to get and libfame and
libmjpegtools0...then everything should work:

deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main
deb http://spello.sscnet.ucla.edu/marillat/ sid main
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main

sto attenta a la listacommentami qualunque problema, ciao

vale




 Sorry for the italian lines, it basically says it failes in finding
 thoes packages.
 (cinelerra: Depenso on: [...] but it's not installable / it's not going
 to be installed)

 Has anyone of you out there succeded in installing cinelerra under sid?
 Please let me know how you have done that, or how you think I might
 solve my problem.

 Thank you, greetings
   Takke




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Re: Installing cinelerra on sid

2006-03-28 Thread valentina messeri


 I seguenti pacchetti hanno dipendenze non soddisfatte:
   cinelerra: Dipende: liblame0 (= 3.96.1-1) ma non è installabile
  Dipende: libmjpegtools0 (= 1:1.8.0) ma non è installabile
Dipende: libquicktimehv (= 1:2.0.0) ma non sta per essere
 installato
  Dipende: libquicktimehv (= 1:2.0.0-1svn20060213) ma non sta
 per essere installato

hi.well, i'm italian too and the amd64 packaging manteiner.i think
you only need to add marillat source in order to get and libfame and
libmjpegtools0...then everything should work:

deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main
deb http://spello.sscnet.ucla.edu/marillat/ sid main
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main

sto attenta a la listacommentami qualunque problema, ciao

vale




 Sorry for the italian lines, it basically says it failes in finding
thoes packages.
 (cinelerra: Depenso on: [...] but it's not installable / it's not going
to be installed)

 Has anyone of you out there succeded in installing cinelerra under sid?
Please let me know how you have done that, or how you think I might
solve my problem.

 Thank you, greetings
   Takke






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AMD64 nvidia kernels in only some distributions

2006-03-28 Thread hendrik
I searched for nvidia-kernel-source and discovered
  1.0.7174-3: amd64 for stable
  1.0.7174-3: amd64 for unstable

Is there any reason I should fear why the same package is not in 
testing?  Or is it just a mistake or inertia resulting from Debian 
slow-migration policies?

-- hendrik


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Re: AMD64 nvidia kernels in only some distributions

2006-03-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 10:35:15AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I searched for nvidia-kernel-source and discovered
   1.0.7174-3: amd64 for stable
   1.0.7174-3: amd64 for unstable
 
 Is there any reason I should fear why the same package is not in 
 testing?  Or is it just a mistake or inertia resulting from Debian 
 slow-migration policies?

Well if it was following debian, it would have 8178 in unstable right
now.  non-free is all manual, until it joins debian fully.  I hope that
finishes soon.

Len Sorensen


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Re: AMD64 nvidia kernels in only some distributions

2006-03-28 Thread hendrik
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 10:38:27AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 10:35:15AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I searched for nvidia-kernel-source and discovered
1.0.7174-3: amd64 for stable
1.0.7174-3: amd64 for unstable
  
  Is there any reason I should fear why the same package is not in 
  testing?  Or is it just a mistake or inertia resulting from Debian 
  slow-migration policies?
 
 Well if it was following debian, it would have 8178 in unstable right
 now.  non-free is all manual, until it joins debian fully.  I hope that
 finishes soon.
 
 Len Sorensen

Thanks.  Nothing scary, then.

-- hendrik


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howto says up to 2.6.11 -- is this outdated?

2006-03-28 Thread hendrik
The Debian GNU/Linux AMD64 HOW-TO from 
http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html 
says in the section Is nvidia card supported

 for sarge, or using a stock kernel up to 2.6.11: go to 
 /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 (or whatever headers you 
 installed) after you unpacked the nvidia-kernel-source tarball in 
 /usr/src and run

 MAKEFLAGS=CC=gcc-3.4 make-kpkg --append-to-version -11-amd64-k8 
 modules_image

 again, replace -11-amd64-k8 with the flavour of your kernel.

Is the restriction on kernels up to 2.6.11 serious? Or is it just 
out-of-date or extra careful.
I'm running etch with 
linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-generic_2.6.12-10_amd64.deb
The X I'm trying to get up is xorg.

By the way, the system is doing what I got it for just perfectly.
It's the most reliable system on my net  Getting X up on it would be 
the icing on the cake.

-- hendrik


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Re: howto says up to 2.6.11 -- is this outdated?

2006-03-28 Thread Alexander Sieck
Hello Hendrik,

I guess it is just outdated.
The debianized nvidia driver (1.0.8178-1) works on my AMD64
with kernel 2.6.15-1-amd64-k8 and Xorg 6.9.0 without any problems so
far.

deb64a:~$ Xorg -version

X Window System Version 6.9.0 (Debian 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 20060117044708
Frederik Schüler [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.9
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.15-1-amd64-k8-smp x86_64 [ELF] 
Current Operating System: Linux deb64a 2.6.15-1-amd64-k8 #2 Tue Mar 7
06:53:26 UTC 2006 x86_64
Build Date: 17 January 2006

@deb64a:~$ ls /usr/src/modules/
nvidia-kernel  nvidia-kernel-2.6.15-1-amd64-k8_1.0.8178-1_amd64.deb

Alexander


On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 11:26:57AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Debian GNU/Linux AMD64 HOW-TO from 
 http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html 
 says in the section Is nvidia card supported
 
  for sarge, or using a stock kernel up to 2.6.11: go to 
  /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 (or whatever headers you 
  installed) after you unpacked the nvidia-kernel-source tarball in 
  /usr/src and run
 
  MAKEFLAGS=CC=gcc-3.4 make-kpkg --append-to-version -11-amd64-k8 
  modules_image
 
  again, replace -11-amd64-k8 with the flavour of your kernel.
 
 Is the restriction on kernels up to 2.6.11 serious? Or is it just 
 out-of-date or extra careful.
 I'm running etch with 
 linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-generic_2.6.12-10_amd64.deb
 The X I'm trying to get up is xorg.
 
 By the way, the system is doing what I got it for just perfectly.
 It's the most reliable system on my net  Getting X up on it would be 
 the icing on the cake.
 
 -- hendrik
 
 
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scsi controller for external devices

2006-03-28 Thread Francesco Pietra
building a workstation with amd64 dual opterons on mainboard tyan k8we 
s2895sa3nrf and debian testing/unstable, i need a one-connector (fifty pin 
half pitch) fast scsi controller for external chain of cd, scanner, and 
backup hd.

same chain currently works perfectly  with fast scsi controller adaptec 
aic-7850 (no more available in my country) on AMD Athlon debian 32 
testing/unstable.

thanks for helping
francesco pietra


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Re: howto says up to 2.6.11 -- is this outdated?

2006-03-28 Thread Jack Malmostoso
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:30:21 +0200, hendrik wrote:

 Is the restriction on kernels up to 2.6.11 serious?

At the time of the writing 2.6.11 was the newest kernel. I am running the
nvidia drivers with a 2.6.16 kernel.

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Linux User #264449
Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64


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Re: howto says up to 2.6.11 -- is this outdated?

2006-03-28 Thread Stefano Simonucci
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 20:34 +0200, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:30:21 +0200, hendrik wrote:
 
  Is the restriction on kernels up to 2.6.11 serious?
 
 At the time of the writing 2.6.11 was the newest kernel. I am running the
 nvidia drivers with a 2.6.16 kernel.
 
 -- 

I am not tried to install the nvidia drivers from
http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia/  but I get an error in the
kernel modules compilation

/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c:1640: error: 'mem_map' undeclared
(first use in this function)
/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c:1640: error: (Each undeclared
identifier is reported only once
/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c:1640: error: for each function it
appears in.)

Then the compilation stops. 

Stefano


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Re: scsi controller for external devices

2006-03-28 Thread Greg Madden
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 10:25, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 tyan k8we

Fast MB, unless you have all the  (external) devices left over, I would't 
bother with fast scsi as I/O. With that board you have USB2, Firewire 
400, and with an add in card firewire 800. That card ad or the devices 
attched to it becomes the bottleneck for perfornance. If you have to go 
scsi I would get a cheaper card, I have used a Tekram DC-315U and a SIIG 
AP-10, both supported by Etch.
-- 
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Re: scsi controller for external devices

2006-03-28 Thread Francesco Pietra
thanks a lot for pointing out the bottleneck. is that bottleneck also when no 
external device is attached to the scsi controller? i intend to connect the 
scsi chain to the workstation only occasionally for scanning and backup to 
have access to data by an ordinary pc. normally the scsi chain is connected 
to the pc. 

if the scsi controller causes a bottleneck per se, what about accessing the 
scsi devices attached to the pc from the workstation through the zyxel adsl 
rooter?

i need that motherboard to get the best floating point for the money. with 
that workstation i am already at the lower limit to do ab inition quantum 
chemical calculations for large molecules. 

thank you again
francesco pietra

On Wednesday 29 March 2006 00:30, Greg Madden wrote:
 On Tuesday 28 March 2006 10:25, Francesco Pietra wrote:
  tyan k8we

 Fast MB, unless you have all the  (external) devices left over, I would't
 bother with fast scsi as I/O. With that board you have USB2, Firewire
 400, and with an add in card firewire 800. That card ad or the devices
 attched to it becomes the bottleneck for perfornance. If you have to go
 scsi I would get a cheaper card, I have used a Tekram DC-315U and a SIIG
 AP-10, both supported by Etch.
 --
 Greg Madden


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Re: kernel 2.6.16 and nvidia?

2006-03-28 Thread paul wiesbauer
this i a knowen bug, nvidia has a patch for this problem

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62021






On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 09:32 -0500, Andrew Schulman wrote:
  I grabbed latest 2.6.16 kernel source today from experimental and tried
  to compile the available nvidia kernel module.
  I got:
  usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-linux.h:535:2: #error vmap()
  appears to be unavailable in this kernel!
  /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-linux.h:715:2: warning: #warning
  conftest.sh failed, assuming remap_page_range(4)!
  
  Anyone has a hint for me?
 
 Hint: search the archives of this list for 'nvidia' within the 3 days or so.
 
 


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Re: scsi controller for external devices

2006-03-28 Thread Greg Madden
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 12:56, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 thanks a lot for pointing out the bottleneck. is that bottleneck also
 when no external device is attached to the scsi controller? i intend to
 connect the scsi chain to the workstation only occasionally for
 scanning and backup to have access to data by an ordinary pc. normally
 the scsi chain is connected to the pc.

 if the scsi controller causes a bottleneck per se, what about accessing
 the scsi devices attached to the pc from the workstation through the
 zyxel adsl rooter?

 i need that motherboard to get the best floating point for the money.
 with that workstation i am already at the lower limit to do ab inition
 quantum chemical calculations for large molecules.

 thank you again
 francesco pietra

 On Wednesday 29 March 2006 00:30, Greg Madden wrote:
  On Tuesday 28 March 2006 10:25, Francesco Pietra wrote:
   tyan k8we
 
  Fast MB, unless you have all the  (external) devices left over, I
  would't bother with fast scsi as I/O. With that board you have USB2,
  Firewire 400, and with an add in card firewire 800. That card ad or
  the devices attched to it becomes the bottleneck for perfornance. If
  you have to go scsi I would get a cheaper card, I have used a Tekram
  DC-315U and a SIIG AP-10, both supported by Etch.
  --
  Greg Madden

The card won't cause an issue when the devices are not being used. It is 
just when using the devices, with fast scsi you have to wait for the 
results, if applicable, of those operations. It all depends on what you 
do with your system, I.E. scanning high res color photo photos can create 
a large file that takes (x)time to transfer over scsi, while the USB2  
would transfer much faster 480Mbs or 60MB/s vs the 10-20? MB/s for fast 
scsi, same with a hard drive. Of course if you don't use those 
peripherals that much it isn't an issue.

-- 
Greg Madden


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