Re: quiet dual dual-core opteron
Quoting Peter A. H. Peterson: I've started a wiki for K8N-DL information if anyone cares: http://tastytronic.net/k8ndlis/ So, my quiet 4-way dual-core Opteron system is up and running. * ASUS K8N-DL motherboard because of it's smallish size and it's support for dual-core CPUs and NUMA. * 2x 400GB SATA disks in RAID1 configuration. * 4GB RAM (2GB on each CPU). * Antec Sonata II case with an Antec NeoPower HE 550 PSU (sold seperately). I am currently using the stock AMD coolers because they fit the Sonata wind tunnel better than the Zalmans. ...and the system is very quiet! The trick with the K8N-DL motherboards is to get the BIOS flashed up -- they often ship with rev 1003 which does not support dual-core CPUs (you have to boot with 1 CPU to flash up) but the EZ Flash utility included is great -- put the new BIOS on a CD and hit Alt+F2 while POSTing and the motherboard will find the file and flash it automatically. It wasn't working at first but that's because I was booting with two dual cores on an older BIOS. I'll keep this thread up to date... not because it's gripping drama, but just for posterity and future searches. Thanks for all your suggestions... unclepedro -- Peter A. H. Peterson, technician and musician. ---=[ http://tastytronic.net/~pedro/ ]=--- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is testing not getting build ?
Ernest jw ter Kuile [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thursday 06 April 2006 07:09, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: I'm assuming you are talking about the official Debian archive, right? correct. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/mirror/debian/dists% grep-dctrl -F Architecture amd64 etch/main/binary-amd64/Packages nothing There seem to be some packages available in the mirror I can see from here. Most packages have been obsoleted/localized (ie not available in repository), but then that was what my question was about. If even a few packages are indeed there, I will assume the mechanisme for building is in place, but has stalled somehow. Seems like amd64 is excluded from moving into etch. Cheer up! We waited long enough. we can wait a bit longer. After some more fact finding I can say that the situation is like this: - Etch amd64 contains all architecture all packages present in Debian etch. They are present in all architectures no matter what. - The official buildd has no etch chroot yet (where would that come from?) and does not build any etch-proposed-updates yet. But keep in mind that it is very uncommon for something to get uploaded directly to etch so this doesn't hurt us. - Packages are moved from sid to etch when they are installable in etch (after the move), have no more bugs than the old etch version and are old enough (between 2-10 days depending on urgency). Further packages with udebs are put on hold as they need to be moved manualy in coordination with Debian-Installer updates. Now, what does that mean for us? The libc6 in sid is newer than the libc6 in etch and it will take at least 10 days for the age limit to allow this new libc6 into etch. At that point it will also need a manual push due to the libc6.udeb. Since everything has a Depends on libc6 none of the other packages can move to etch before that (they would be uninstallable). There are more such doorstoppers but libc6 is the biggest one. They probably get all solved together with (or shortly after) libc6. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia building from source (2.6.15)
Sebastian Haase wrote: On Wednesday 05 April 2006 23:43, Jo Shields wrote: Sebastian Haase wrote: snip Thanks (I'm back ...) - Sebastian Haase Build one. Add a normal 32-bit mirror's deb-src to /etc/apt/sources.list (e.g. deb-src http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian unstable non-free). Install some building-related bits bobs (apt-get build-dep nvidia-glx). Download the package source (apt-get source nvidia-glx). Change to that folder (cd nvidia*). If building 7174 on Sarge, tweak debian.binary/rules (change DH_COMPAT to some smaller number like 3 or 2). Run dpkg-buildpackage. Change down a folder (cd ..). Install the kernel source package (dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-source_*_amd64.deb). Install module-assistant and build-essential - and an appropriate GCC if not using your standard system gcc for kernels (e.g. on Sarge, you must install gcc-3.4 here or you'll get misleading rivafb errors - use cat /proc/version to check; aptitude install module-assistant build-essential). Compile install the kernel module (m-a a-i nvidia). Load the module (If you've an older module loaded, then run modprobe -r nvidia first. Then, modprobe nvidia echo nvidia /etc/modules). Install the driver packages (dpkg -i nvidia-glx*). Tell X to use nvidia instead of nv (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-(xfree86|xorg)). Restart X (/etc/init.d/*dm restart). Building non-free packages isn't automatic, especially on unofficial architectures, which is why this sort of thing becomes neccessary. --Jo Shields Thanks Jo, for the details. OK - I found nvidia-installer --uninstall You remind(claim?) that nvidia only works (well) when built with gcc-3.4 !? But just /installing/ gcc-3.4 would not be enough ! How and at what step can I tell the build-chain to really use 3.4 ?? It doesn't really matter what GCC you use, as long as the compiler used for the kernel (as detailed by cat /proc/version) is installed. All Sarge kernels on AMD64 use GCC 3.4 - however, due to a bug in rdonald's build scripts, if you don't have the right compiler installed, you are given a useless error message (telling you that rivafb is compiled into your kernel). You merely need to have it INSTALLED - the build script automatically selects uses the correct version. Also: your line modprobe nvidia echo nvidia /etc/modules suprises me: In the past I never needed this for nvidia ! It just gets auto-loaded when X starts ! (I thought it was not according to debian policy to change /etc/modules anyway ;-) ) The module is auto-loaded when something tries to play with /dev/nvidia* - however, the /dev/nvidia* device nodes, on a modern udev-based system, are only created when there are nvidia-related entries in /sys. nvidia stuff only appears in /sys AFTER the module is already loaded. --Jo Shields -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ram/raid1
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 06:59:29AM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: n setting up a workstation with --two amd6a 265 opterons dual core --Tyan K8WE S2895SA3NRF main board --two 360GB raid1 hd (raid 1 software by debian) --ram 2GB (Kingston KVR400D4R3A/2G - DDR 400 Ecc Registered), is any reason to prefer two slots of memories 1GB each instead of a single 2GB slot? Most certainly. The technician here maintains that two slots are needed to have needed two channels for raid1; it is unclear to me. The memory slots have nothing to do with the RAID. The reason you want 2x 1GB is that dual (or more) Opteron designs are not SMP (Symmetric Multi Processor), but NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Architecture). With SMP the two CPUs share the same bus to memory, but with NUMA each CPU has some local memory connected to a local memory bus. The other CPU can still get to that memory, but it's a bit slower. If you would only put in 1x 2GB, you will severely slow down the other CPU cause it has to go through the other CPU to do memory accesses. To see what I mean, get the board datasheet at ftp://ftp.tyan.com/datasheets/d_s2895_101.pdf and look at the block diagram on the second page. The Linux virtual memory subsystem is NUMA aware, especially in the latest kernels (i.e.: 2.6.15 and better): it will take care managing the memory in such a way to minimize the amount of traffic between the CPUs. Incidentally, the 2GB Kingston is charged in Italy six hundred euros, that is more than twice the price in US. This is to recognize that we can circumvent the market leader software houses (and be more efficient) but we cannot avoid the system in our country which favors handlers against citizen (and against scientific research activities). The results of such policy are under the eyes. You can order memory everywhere in the EU, that's what the no obstacles for trading goods rules are for. If you can find memory cheaper in (for example) Germany, buy it over there and have it shipped to Italy. Be sure to let your Italian vendor know that he missed a sale. Erik -- +-- Erik Mouw -- www.harddisk-recovery.com -- +31 70 370 12 90 -- | Lab address: Delftechpark 26, 2628 XH, Delft, The Netherlands -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT (was Re: ram/raid1)
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Erik Mouw wrote: You can order memory everywhere in the EU, that's what the no obstacles for trading goods rules are for. If you can find memory cheaper in (for example) Germany, buy it over there and have it shipped to Italy. Be sure to let your Italian vendor know that he missed a sale. Yes, you can do that if you are buying it for yourself as a private citizen or company. If you are buying it for a public institution, than you will require italian invoices and the like, which by and large means you have to buy in Italy. I know, unfortunately. I had to buy a (way) suboptimal laptop for my work, despite what I wanted (amd 64 based, large screen resolution, more than 2GB ram...) being easily available elsewhere, just for this reason. I had either to fork money out of my own pocket or buy something worse and more expensive. After many years of complaining (and having chosen many times before to spend my own money) I finally gave up and settled for the worse, more expensive solution with the office money (what the heck!). And, of course, companies _know_ this situation and exploit it, making very different commercial offers for different national markets (see e.g. differences in HP offers on the web, just for an example, between US and EU). Bye Giacomo -- _ Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 _ When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are (Freddy Mercury) _ -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT (was Re: ram/raid1)
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:45:17AM +0200, Giacomo Mulas wrote: On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Erik Mouw wrote: You can order memory everywhere in the EU, that's what the no obstacles for trading goods rules are for. If you can find memory cheaper in (for example) Germany, buy it over there and have it shipped to Italy. Be sure to let your Italian vendor know that he missed a sale. Yes, you can do that if you are buying it for yourself as a private citizen or company. If you are buying it for a public institution, than you will require italian invoices and the like, which by and large means you have to buy in Italy. I know, unfortunately. I had to buy a (way) suboptimal laptop for my work, despite what I wanted (amd 64 based, large screen resolution, more than 2GB ram...) being easily available elsewhere, just for this reason. I had either to fork money out of my own pocket or buy something worse and more expensive. After many years of complaining (and having chosen many times before to spend my own money) I finally gave up and settled for the worse, more expensive solution with the office money (what the heck!). That sounds like an abuse of EU rules. A German/Dutch/French/Spanish/etc company should have no problem selling stuff to Italian public institutions. If Italian public institutions require invoices from Italian companies, that is an unnecessary burden for equal access to markets. There is however a workaround, we sometimes used it at our university in order to work around silly internal accounting rules (invoices over 5k EUR had to be OK'ed by the dean, even if the money came from an EU RACE project): one of my colleagues with an own company bought the complete stuff, and resold it (in quantities less than 5 kEUR) to the university. And, of course, companies _know_ this situation and exploit it, making very different commercial offers for different national markets (see e.g. differences in HP offers on the web, just for an example, between US and EU). Complain to the EU, this is not supposed to happen. Erik -- +-- Erik Mouw -- www.harddisk-recovery.com -- +31 70 370 12 90 -- | Lab address: Delftechpark 26, 2628 XH, Delft, The Netherlands -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question about /etc/network/interfaces
Hello Yesterday, I noticed a problem with my network configuration. When the network start, I've got this error : addr=192.168.0.1,name=;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file : # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 network 192.168.0.0 #auto dsl-provider auto dsl-provider iface dsl-provider inet ppp provider dsl-provider Thanks for your help. Regards. -- Sylvain Archenault -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about /etc/network/interfaces
what is the address of your gateway? eg.gateway 192.168.0.xxx Sylvain Archenault wrote: Hello Yesterday, I noticed a problem with my network configuration. When the network start, I've got this error : addr=192.168.0.1,name=;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file : # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 network 192.168.0.0 #auto dsl-provider auto dsl-provider iface dsl-provider inet ppp provider dsl-provider Thanks for your help. Regards. -- J. Paul Bissonnette http://canadian-dream.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ram
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 06:57:06AM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: In setting up a workstation with --two amd6a 265 opterons dual core --Tyan K8WE S2895SA3NRF main board --two 360GB raid1 hd (raid 1 software by debian) --ram 2GB (Kingston KVR400D4R3A/2G - DDR 400 Ecc Registered), is any reason to prefer two slots of memories 1GB each instead of a single 2GB slot? The technician here maintains that two slots are needed to have needed two channels. Incidentally, the 2GB Kingston is charged in Italy six hundred euros, that is more than twice the price in US. This is to recognize that we can circumvent the market leader software houses (and be more efficient) but we cannot avoid the system in our country which favors handlers against citizen (and against scientific research activities). The results of such policy are under the eyes. With 2 * 1GB, you get 6.4GB/s memory bandwidth. With 1 * 2GB, you get 3.2GB/s memory bandwidth. I think that is a reason to prefer the pair 1GB sticks Socket 939/940 AMD's have dual channel memory controllers to get double memory bandwidth, but only if you put in at least two sticks of memory (and into the right slots on the board). Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ram
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 09:02:45AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 06:57:06AM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: In setting up a workstation with --two amd6a 265 opterons dual core --Tyan K8WE S2895SA3NRF main board --two 360GB raid1 hd (raid 1 software by debian) --ram 2GB (Kingston KVR400D4R3A/2G - DDR 400 Ecc Registered), is any reason to prefer two slots of memories 1GB each instead of a single 2GB slot? The technician here maintains that two slots are needed to have needed two channels. Incidentally, the 2GB Kingston is charged in Italy six hundred euros, that is more than twice the price in US. This is to recognize that we can circumvent the market leader software houses (and be more efficient) but we cannot avoid the system in our country which favors handlers against citizen (and against scientific research activities). The results of such policy are under the eyes. With 2 * 1GB, you get 6.4GB/s memory bandwidth. With 1 * 2GB, you get 3.2GB/s memory bandwidth. I think that is a reason to prefer the pair 1GB sticks Socket 939/940 AMD's have dual channel memory controllers to get double memory bandwidth, but only if you put in at least two sticks of memory (and into the right slots on the board). Actually since you are using 2 cpus, you really would want at least 4 sticks of identical memory to get full performance from the system since each cpu has a dual channel memory controller. You need need memory in each channel of each cpu if you want the maximum performance. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about /etc/network/interfaces
J. Paul Bissonnette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what is the address of your gateway? eg.gateway 192.168.0.xxx Sylvain Archenault wrote: Hello Yesterday, I noticed a problem with my network configuration. When the network start, I've got this error : addr=192.168.0.1,name=;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file : # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 network 192.168.0.0 #auto dsl-provider auto dsl-provider iface dsl-provider inet ppp provider dsl-provider ^^^ I bet his dsl provides the Gateway. Thanks for your help. Regards. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ram
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 09:02:45AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 06:57:06AM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
In setting up a workstation with
--two amd6a 265 opterons dual core
--Tyan K8WE S2895SA3NRF main board
--two 360GB raid1 hd (raid 1 software by debian)
--ram 2GB (Kingston KVR400D4R3A/2G - DDR 400 Ecc Registered), is any reason
to
prefer two slots of memories 1GB each instead of a single 2GB slot?
The technician here maintains that two slots are needed to have needed two
channels.
Incidentally, the 2GB Kingston is charged in Italy six hundred euros, that
is
more than twice the price in US. This is to recognize that we can
circumvent
the market leader software houses (and be more efficient) but we cannot
avoid
the system in our country which favors handlers against citizen (and
against
scientific research activities). The results of such policy are under the
eyes.
With 2 * 1GB, you get 6.4GB/s memory bandwidth. With 1 * 2GB, you get
3.2GB/s memory bandwidth. I think that is a reason to prefer the
pair 1GB sticks
Socket 939/940 AMD's have dual channel memory controllers to get double
memory bandwidth, but only if you put in at least two sticks of memory
(and into the right slots on the board).
Wouldn't this mean that, in a dual CPU system, one should better use 4 mem
modules?
S
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nfs-kernel-server init script
Hello. Well, I've just apt-get updated my boxes and compliled a new 2.6.16 kernel for them. After that, my amd64's nfsd refuses to start from the init.d script. The problem is the check that /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server does to verify apropiate support compiled in the kernel, line 66: # See if our running kernel supports the NFS kernel server if [ -f /proc/kallsyms ] ! grep -q nfsd_version /proc/kallsyms; then echo Not starting $DESC: no support in current kernel. exit 0 fi Now, homero:/proc# zgrep NFS config.gz ONFIG_NFS_FS=y CONFIG_NFS_V3=y # CONFIG_NFS_V3_ACL is not set CONFIG_NFS_V4=y CONFIG_NFS_DIRECTIO=y CONFIG_NFSD=y CONFIG_NFSD_V3=y # CONFIG_NFSD_V3_ACL is not set CONFIG_NFSD_V4=y CONFIG_NFSD_TCP=y CONFIG_NFS_COMMON=y but grep nfsd_version /proc/kallsyms founds nothing. This is the reason why nfs-kernel-server fails. So I looked the same thing in a ia32 box (debian unstable, kernel 2.6.16, very similar kernel config), and grepping for nfsd_version in kallsyms: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep nfsd_version /proc/kallsyms e0baed8c b nfsd_versions[nfsd] e0bacab0 d nfsd_version [nfsd] e0bad7c0 d nfsd_version4[nfsd] e0bacd20 d nfsd_version2[nfsd] e0bad420 d nfsd_version3[nfsd] So the symbols exported by the amd64 kernel are different. Is this a bug in nfs-kernel-server package? Regards, -- Fernando M. Maresca - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cel: 221 15 545 8196 Tel: 221 489 8196 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Which linux flavor for amd64?
I had a Win98/knoppix p2 machine that was flooded by katrina. I have a new system: cpu AMD Athlon 64 3200+ mb evga 133-k8-nf41-xx uses the nForce4 chipset pcie video card nVidia GeForce 6600LE (do not intend to use SLI functionality) OS WinXP Home + SP2 preinstalled on a 160GB SATA HD Use dual (VGA) monitors under win Finished my break-in period with XP, and I'd like to establish a dual boot system with linux. I think I can hack resizing the ntfs volume, repartition the disk, install linux and manage the boot loader. My initial questions concern which linux version should I install? Constraints/desires: 1. I have a dialup connection, therefore I need to install from cd/dvd. 2. I'd like to use the dual vga monitors off the nVidia card using xinerama (not nVidia's TwinView) 3. Other hardware: Agere Systems PCI Soft Modem using SV92PL-T00 chipset, (can hook up a serial Creative Modem Blaster if the soft modem can't function under linux), an external usb hd, and a Samsung scx-4216f printer/fax/copy/scanner using either usb/parallel. Options considered: 1. Live CD Knoppix v4.0.2 provides a hd-installer, but some Knoppers say if you are going to install Debian anyway, you are better off doing a straight Debian install. Moreover Live Knoppix detects neither the soft modem nor the printer. Haven't made the effort with the xf86conf file to see if I can get dual monitors driven by the one card before deciding between these options. 2. Install official stable (sarge) Debian v3.1r1 i386. DVDs easy to purchase. 3. Install unofficial (sarge) Debian v3.1r01 amd64. CDs (or DVDs?) can be purchased. 4. Install testing (etch) Debian which supposedly has internal amd64 support. Can DVDs/CDs be found? Additonal notes that may/may not be applicable to the above options: a) Samsung has a linux driver for their printer which may give functionality under any of the above options. b) nVidia has a NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0319-pkg1.run which adds support for (nVidia)AMD64 nForce 430/410 mbs. I suppose this might add support for my mb too? c) nVidia has a NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run which adds i386 and/or amd64/em64t support for their GeForce 6xxx video cards. Suggestions on which linux flavor and which add-on drivers I should install are welcomed. _ Call Anyone, Anytime, Anywhere in the World - FREE! Free Internet calling from NetZero Voice Visit http://www.netzerovoice.com today!
Re: Which linux flavor for amd64?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a Win98/knoppix p2 machine that was flooded by katrina. I have a new system: cpu AMD Athlon 64 3200+ mb evga 133-k8-nf41-xx uses the nForce4 chipset pcie video card nVidia GeForce 6600LE (do not intend to use SLI functionality) OS WinXP Home + SP2 preinstalled on a 160GB SATA HD Use dual (VGA) monitors under win Finished my break-in period with XP, and I'd like to establish a dual boot system with linux. I think I can hack resizing the ntfs volume, repartition the disk, install linux and manage the boot loader. My initial questions concern which linux version should I install? Constraints/desires: 1. I have a dialup connection, therefore I need to install from cd/dvd. 2. I'd like to use the dual vga monitors off the nVidia card using xinerama (not nVidia's TwinView) 3. Other hardware: Agere Systems PCI Soft Modem using SV92PL-T00 chipset, (can hook up a serial Creative Modem Blaster if the soft modem can't function under linux), an external usb hd, and a Samsung scx-4216f printer/fax/copy/scanner using either usb/parallel. Options considered: 1. Live CD Knoppix v4.0.2 provides a hd-installer, but some Knoppers say if you are going to install Debian anyway, you are better off doing a straight Debian install. Moreover Live Knoppix detects neither the soft modem nor the printer. Haven't made the effort with the xf86conf file to see if I can get dual monitors driven by the one card before deciding between these options. 2. Install official stable (sarge) Debian v3.1r1 i386. DVDs easy to purchase. 3. Install unofficial (sarge) Debian v3.1r01 amd64. CDs (or DVDs?) can be purchased. 4. Install testing (etch) Debian which supposedly has internal amd64 support. Can DVDs/CDs be found? Additonal notes that may/may not be applicable to the above options: a) Samsung has a linux driver for their printer which may give functionality under any of the above options. b) nVidia has a NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0319-pkg1.run which adds support for (nVidia)AMD64 nForce 430/410 mbs. I suppose this might add support for my mb too? c) nVidia has a NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run which adds i386 and/or amd64/em64t support for their GeForce 6xxx video cards. As has been recently discussed on the list, never ever touch driver packages from nvidia.com - they overwrite assorted dpkg-managed system files without warning, which can come back later bite you in the arse. The motherboard packages are unneccessary (as ethernet sound work with open-source in-kernel drivers), and there are .deb files for the 3d drivers which are less breaky Suggestions on which linux flavor and which add-on drivers I should install are welcomed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ram
Hi Len: a lucid lesson from you. Thank you Francesco Pietra On Friday 07 April 2006 15:05, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 09:02:45AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 06:57:06AM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: In setting up a workstation with --two amd6a 265 opterons dual core --Tyan K8WE S2895SA3NRF main board --two 360GB raid1 hd (raid 1 software by debian) --ram 2GB (Kingston KVR400D4R3A/2G - DDR 400 Ecc Registered), is any reason to prefer two slots of memories 1GB each instead of a single 2GB slot? The technician here maintains that two slots are needed to have needed two channels. Incidentally, the 2GB Kingston is charged in Italy six hundred euros, that is more than twice the price in US. This is to recognize that we can circumvent the market leader software houses (and be more efficient) but we cannot avoid the system in our country which favors handlers against citizen (and against scientific research activities). The results of such policy are under the eyes. With 2 * 1GB, you get 6.4GB/s memory bandwidth. With 1 * 2GB, you get 3.2GB/s memory bandwidth. I think that is a reason to prefer the pair 1GB sticks Socket 939/940 AMD's have dual channel memory controllers to get double memory bandwidth, but only if you put in at least two sticks of memory (and into the right slots on the board). Actually since you are using 2 cpus, you really would want at least 4 sticks of identical memory to get full performance from the system since each cpu has a dual channel memory controller. You need need memory in each channel of each cpu if you want the maximum performance. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about /etc/network/interfaces
Le Vendredi 7 Avril 2006 12:32, Sylvain Archenault a écrit : Hello Yesterday, I noticed a problem with my network configuration. When the network start, I've got this error : addr=192.168.0.1,name=;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file : # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 network 192.168.0.0 #auto dsl-provider auto dsl-provider iface dsl-provider inet ppp provider dsl-provider Thanks for your help. Regards. -- Sylvain Archenault Maybe a DNS problem ? What does /etc/resolv.conf say ? look for dns-* options in man interfaces... Dominique Leducq
Re: Which linux flavor for amd64?
On Friday 07 Apr 2006 13:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had a Win98/knoppix p2 machine that was flooded by katrina. I have a new
system: cpu AMD Athlon 64 3200+
mb evga 133-k8-nf41-xx uses the nForce4 chipset
pcie video card nVidia GeForce 6600LE (do not intend to use SLI
functionality) OS WinXP Home + SP2 preinstalled on a 160GB SATA HD
Use dual (VGA) monitors under win
Finished my break-in period with XP, and I'd like to establish a dual boot
system with linux. I think I can hack resizing the ntfs volume,
repartition the disk, install linux and manage the boot loader. My initial
questions concern which linux version should I install?
Constraints/desires:
1. I have a dialup connection, therefore I need to install from cd/dvd.
2. I'd like to use the dual vga monitors off the nVidia card using xinerama
(not nVidia's TwinView) 3. Other hardware: Agere Systems PCI Soft Modem
using SV92PL-T00 chipset, (can hook up a serial Creative Modem Blaster if
the soft modem can't function under linux), an external usb hd, and a
Samsung scx-4216f printer/fax/copy/scanner using either usb/parallel.
Options considered:
1. Live CD Knoppix v4.0.2 provides a hd-installer, but some Knoppers say if
you are going to install Debian anyway, you are better off doing a straight
Debian install. Moreover Live Knoppix detects neither the soft modem nor
the printer. Haven't made the effort with the xf86conf file to see if I
can get dual monitors driven by the one card before deciding between these
options. 2. Install official stable (sarge) Debian v3.1r1 i386. DVDs easy
to purchase. 3. Install unofficial (sarge) Debian v3.1r01 amd64. CDs (or
DVDs?) can be purchased. 4. Install testing (etch) Debian which supposedly
has internal amd64 support. Can DVDs/CDs be found?
Additonal notes that may/may not be applicable to the above options:
a) Samsung has a linux driver for their printer which may give
functionality under any of the above options. b) nVidia has a
NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0319-pkg1.run which adds support for (nVidia)AMD64
nForce 430/410 mbs. I suppose this might add support for my mb too? c)
nVidia has a NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run which adds i386 and/or
amd64/em64t support for their GeForce 6xxx video cards.
Suggestions on which linux flavor and which add-on drivers I should install
are welcomed.
They're half right about Knoppix. It's a great way to test a system for
compatibility. {There's another liveCD that I often use for compatibility
testing, but I shan't mention its name on a Debian list.} It's not so good
for flexibility with package selection, though you could put in
an /etc/apt/sources.list file . except you really need a proper internet
connection for that. I used apt-get over dial-up once. Never again.
Whatever you do, *only* ever install *open source* drivers. Drivers have to
be intimate with the kernel, and as such are subject to crash the system if
poorly written; there is no way to know how well closed source code has been
written, so you should always assume the worst.
Check out the Samsung driver, and make sure it has absolutely no proprietary
components. Check the licence file; if it's pure GPL or BSD, you're fine
{but watch out; I have seen software offered supposedly under a BSD licence
but without source code being available, although permission was granted to
distribute it -- go figure}. Unpack the tarball and look for files ending in
.o, .ko or .so -- if you see any of those, avoid.
The open source nv drivers in XFree86 / XOrg work perfectly for me but I
have only ever tried with a single monitor. I have no experience of nForce
ethernet chipsets so haven't tried the open source forcedeth driver; but I
haven't heard much to de-recommend these mobos so they can't be all that bad.
--
AJS
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Re: ram/raid1
Hi Erik: thank you from both the scientific and the commercial point of view Francesco Pietra On Friday 07 April 2006 11:18, Erik Mouw wrote: On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 06:59:29AM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: n setting up a workstation with --two amd6a 265 opterons dual core --Tyan K8WE S2895SA3NRF main board --two 360GB raid1 hd (raid 1 software by debian) --ram 2GB (Kingston KVR400D4R3A/2G - DDR 400 Ecc Registered), is any reason to prefer two slots of memories 1GB each instead of a single 2GB slot? Most certainly. The technician here maintains that two slots are needed to have needed two channels for raid1; it is unclear to me. The memory slots have nothing to do with the RAID. The reason you want 2x 1GB is that dual (or more) Opteron designs are not SMP (Symmetric Multi Processor), but NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Architecture). With SMP the two CPUs share the same bus to memory, but with NUMA each CPU has some local memory connected to a local memory bus. The other CPU can still get to that memory, but it's a bit slower. If you would only put in 1x 2GB, you will severely slow down the other CPU cause it has to go through the other CPU to do memory accesses. To see what I mean, get the board datasheet at ftp://ftp.tyan.com/datasheets/d_s2895_101.pdf and look at the block diagram on the second page. The Linux virtual memory subsystem is NUMA aware, especially in the latest kernels (i.e.: 2.6.15 and better): it will take care managing the memory in such a way to minimize the amount of traffic between the CPUs. Incidentally, the 2GB Kingston is charged in Italy six hundred euros, that is more than twice the price in US. This is to recognize that we can circumvent the market leader software houses (and be more efficient) but we cannot avoid the system in our country which favors handlers against citizen (and against scientific research activities). The results of such policy are under the eyes. You can order memory everywhere in the EU, that's what the no obstacles for trading goods rules are for. If you can find memory cheaper in (for example) Germany, buy it over there and have it shipped to Italy. Be sure to let your Italian vendor know that he missed a sale. Erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
install prob
i a trying to install amd64 etch on my new hp pavillion dv5057ea notebook.(turion) but i am not able to access internet during the installation process to download from archives as the new beta version doesnt install base system(so i cant use the command telnet in another console to connect to internet server) i tried older version of sarge netinst but wont boot with or without vga=771 . anyone please let me know how can iover come this problem of connecting to internet in beta version thanx -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/install-prob-t1412985.html#a3806707 Sent from the debian-amd64 forum at Nabble.com. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which linux flavor for amd64?
Jo Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Options considered: 1. Live CD Knoppix v4.0.2 provides a hd-installer, but some Knoppers say if you are going to install Debian anyway, you are better off doing a straight Debian install. Moreover Live Knoppix detects neither the soft modem nor the printer. Haven't made the effort with the xf86conf file to see if I can get dual monitors driven by the one card before deciding between these options. 2. Install official stable (sarge) Debian v3.1r1 i386. DVDs easy to purchase. 3. Install unofficial (sarge) Debian v3.1r01 amd64. CDs (or DVDs?) can be purchased. 4. Install testing (etch) Debian which supposedly has internal amd64 support. Can DVDs/CDs be found? Nuber 4 is no option. We are a few weeks away from having an installable etch amd64 in Debian. Probably month from getting the usual amount of software to migrate to etch. Only option for now would be unstable. Additonal notes that may/may not be applicable to the above options: a) Samsung has a linux driver for their printer which may give functionality under any of the above options. b) nVidia has a NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0319-pkg1.run which adds support for (nVidia)AMD64 nForce 430/410 mbs. I suppose this might add support for my mb too? c) nVidia has a NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run which adds i386 and/or amd64/em64t support for their GeForce 6xxx video cards. As has been recently discussed on the list, never ever touch driver packages from nvidia.com - they overwrite assorted dpkg-managed system files without warning, which can come back later bite you in the arse. The motherboard packages are unneccessary (as ethernet sound work with open-source in-kernel drivers), and there are .deb files for the 3d drivers which are less breaky For nvidia drivers on amd64 _always_ use the packages from debian non-free. The nvidia installer is not prepared for the way debian organises the libraries (lib64 links to lib) and will utterly fail. The non-free buildd is just about to get setup so it will take a while get started. So you have to fetch the nvidia source package and build it yourself but that is not much of a showstopper. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT (was Re: ram/raid1)
Hi Giacomo: It is poll time in Italy. However, I am not sure whether any politician to vote is aware of the situation, or he just likes that privileges are not touched. Politicians seek for votes, not for national wealth. Think about how many privileges exist (untouched) in Italy. I am not making a list not to irritate too many. Francesco On Friday 07 April 2006 11:45, Giacomo Mulas wrote: On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Erik Mouw wrote: You can order memory everywhere in the EU, that's what the no obstacles for trading goods rules are for. If you can find memory cheaper in (for example) Germany, buy it over there and have it shipped to Italy. Be sure to let your Italian vendor know that he missed a sale. Yes, you can do that if you are buying it for yourself as a private citizen or company. If you are buying it for a public institution, than you will require italian invoices and the like, which by and large means you have to buy in Italy. I know, unfortunately. I had to buy a (way) suboptimal laptop for my work, despite what I wanted (amd 64 based, large screen resolution, more than 2GB ram...) being easily available elsewhere, just for this reason. I had either to fork money out of my own pocket or buy something worse and more expensive. After many years of complaining (and having chosen many times before to spend my own money) I finally gave up and settled for the worse, more expensive solution with the office money (what the heck!). And, of course, companies _know_ this situation and exploit it, making very different commercial offers for different national markets (see e.g. differences in HP offers on the web, just for an example, between US and EU). Bye Giacomo -- _ Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 _ When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are (Freddy Mercury) _ -- Il messaggio e' stato analizzato alla ricerca di virus o contenuti pericolosi da MailScanner, ed e' risultato non infetto. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about /etc/network/interfaces
Hello, /etc/resolv.conf is automatically generated when I connect to internet. It contains 2 dns nameserver. I didn't see any dns-* option in man interfaces. Regards. Dominique Leducq wrote: Le Vendredi 7 Avril 2006 12:32, Sylvain Archenault a écrit : Hello Yesterday, I noticed a problem with my network configuration. When the network start, I've got this error : addr=192.168.0.1,name=;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file : # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 network 192.168.0.0 #auto dsl-provider auto dsl-provider iface dsl-provider inet ppp provider dsl-provider Thanks for your help. Regards. -- Sylvain Archenault Maybe a DNS problem ? What does /etc/resolv.conf say ? look for dns-* options in man interfaces... Dominique Leducq -- Sylvain Archenault -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about /etc/network/interfaces
Le 07.04.2006 18:40:07, Sylvain Archenault a écrit : Hello, /etc/resolv.conf is automatically generated when I connect to internet. It contains 2 dns nameserver. which kind of modem do you use ? Jean-Luc pgppVrWG5ypkO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which linux flavor for amd64?
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 12:58:46PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a Win98/knoppix p2 machine that was flooded by katrina. I have a new system: cpu AMD Athlon 64 3200+ mb evga 133-k8-nf41-xx uses the nForce4 chipset pcie video card nVidia GeForce 6600LE (do not intend to use SLI functionality) OS WinXP Home + SP2 preinstalled on a 160GB SATA HD Use dual (VGA) monitors under win Finished my break-in period with XP, and I'd like to establish a dual boot system with linux. I think I can hack resizing the ntfs volume, repartition the disk, install linux and manage the boot loader. My initial questions concern which linux version should I install? Constraints/desires: 1. I have a dialup connection, therefore I need to install from cd/dvd. Hmm, tricky. I used to maintain a debian unstable system up to date on dial up. Every night I connected and asked it to download the updated packages and hangup afterwards. Worked great. Install I did at my parents place using cable modem. 2. I'd like to use the dual vga monitors off the nVidia card using xinerama (not nVidia's TwinView) You can run xinerama on the nvidia. I know people doing that. 3. Other hardware: Agere Systems PCI Soft Modem using SV92PL-T00 chipset, (can hook up a serial Creative Modem Blaster if the soft modem can't function under linux), an external usb hd, and a Samsung scx-4216f printer/fax/copy/scanner using either usb/parallel. Soft modems are usually a pain. External serial would work great. I see no support for the printer. No idea what would be involved or what their driver does and how it would integrate with something normal like cupsys. Options considered: 1. Live CD Knoppix v4.0.2 provides a hd-installer, but some Knoppers say if you are going to install Debian anyway, you are better off doing a straight Debian install. Moreover Live Knoppix detects neither the soft modem nor the printer. Haven't made the effort with the xf86conf file to see if I can get dual monitors driven by the one card before deciding between these options. 2. Install official stable (sarge) Debian v3.1r1 i386. DVDs easy to purchase. Won't install on hardware that new. 3. Install unofficial (sarge) Debian v3.1r01 amd64. CDs (or DVDs?) can be purchased. Not sure anyone has made disks of it. And it won't install on hardware that new. 4. Install testing (etch) Debian which supposedly has internal amd64 support. Can DVDs/CDs be found? No DVD/CDs for testing. Netinstall cds exist, which can grab actual needed packages from internet. Discs are usually only made near to release time, which is at least 8 or 9 months away for etch (testing). Additonal notes that may/may not be applicable to the above options: a) Samsung has a linux driver for their printer which may give functionality under any of the above options. b) nVidia has a NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0319-pkg1.run which adds support for (nVidia)AMD64 nForce 430/410 mbs. I suppose this might add support for my mb too? Any recent system already supports the majority of devices on nforce4 boards. I wouldn't touch that one from nvidia. c) nVidia has a NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run which adds i386 and/or amd64/em64t support for their GeForce 6xxx video cards. Some distributions have packages of those drives, which work very well. Nvidia's installer makes a nice mess of many systems, due to making assumptions about the layout of the system. Suggestions on which linux flavor and which add-on drivers I should install are welcomed. Well I am a debian fanatic, so that's what I would run. :) Sarge is probably too old to install on that hardware, but testing ought to work well, and they like people testing the beta2 for testing's installer (named etch). Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install prob
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 09:21:30AM -0700, panini wrote: i a trying to install amd64 etch on my new hp pavillion dv5057ea notebook.(turion) but i am not able to access internet during the installation process to download from archives as the new beta version doesnt install base system(so i cant use the command telnet in another console to connect to internet server) i tried older version of sarge netinst but wont boot with or without vga=771 . anyone please let me know how can iover come this problem of connecting to internet in beta version Well most Turion systems seem to use the dreadful ati chipset, which seems to require at least 2.6.12 kernel to have a chance. There are unofficial sarge installers with newer kernels (someone maintains a 2.6.15 based sarge installer, but I can't remember the url right now. It has been mentioned on the list recently though). Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install prob
the new beta version of installer seem to recognise the hardware but my problem is i am not getting how to configure my network during the installation stage so that i will hve internet connection and proceed with the installation. now the installation gets stuck when it asks me to choose apt mirrors and then tries to download release files.it goes through the same routine even when i use the full cd set for installation!!..so please let me know how can i get my internet connection running after installer detects my hardwares and configures my network using dhcp. i use LAN to access my uni server for internet.(as base system is not available in new beta installer) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/install-prob-t1412985.html#a3809803 Sent from the debian-amd64 forum at Nabble.com. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which linux flavor for amd64?
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 12:58:46PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a Win98/knoppix p2 machine that was flooded by katrina. I have a new system: cpu AMD Athlon 64 3200+ mb evga 133-k8-nf41-xx uses the nForce4 chipset pcie video card nVidia GeForce 6600LE (do not intend to use SLI functionality) OS WinXP Home + SP2 preinstalled on a 160GB SATA HD Use dual (VGA) monitors under win Finished my break-in period with XP, and I'd like to establish a dual boot system with linux. I think I can hack resizing the ntfs volume, repartition the disk, install linux and manage the boot loader. My initial questions concern which linux version should I install? Constraints/desires: 1. I have a dialup connection, therefore I need to install from cd/dvd. Hmm, tricky. I used to maintain a debian unstable system up to date on dial up. Every night I connected and asked it to download the updated packages and hangup afterwards. Worked great. Install I did at my parents place using cable modem. 2. I'd like to use the dual vga monitors off the nVidia card using xinerama (not nVidia's TwinView) You can run xinerama on the nvidia. I know people doing that. 3. Other hardware: Agere Systems PCI Soft Modem using SV92PL-T00 chipset, (can hook up a serial Creative Modem Blaster if the soft modem can't function under linux), an external usb hd, and a Samsung scx-4216f printer/fax/copy/scanner using either usb/parallel. Soft modems are usually a pain. External serial would work great. I see no support for the printer. No idea what would be involved or what their driver does and how it would integrate with something normal like cupsys. Options considered: 1. Live CD Knoppix v4.0.2 provides a hd-installer, but some Knoppers say if you are going to install Debian anyway, you are better off doing a straight Debian install. Moreover Live Knoppix detects neither the soft modem nor the printer. Haven't made the effort with the xf86conf file to see if I can get dual monitors driven by the one card before deciding between these options. 2. Install official stable (sarge) Debian v3.1r1 i386. DVDs easy to purchase. Won't install on hardware that new. 3. Install unofficial (sarge) Debian v3.1r01 amd64. CDs (or DVDs?) can be purchased. Not sure anyone has made disks of it. And it won't install on hardware that new. 4. Install testing (etch) Debian which supposedly has internal amd64 support. Can DVDs/CDs be found? No DVD/CDs for testing. Netinstall cds exist, which can grab actual needed packages from internet. Discs are usually only made near to release time, which is at least 8 or 9 months away for etch (testing). I have just done an etch amd64 install from DVD's built via jigdo (http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta2/amd64/jigdo-dvd/). If you can get a high bandwidth connection to build those discs, or a friend with access to burn them for you, then it is possible to get a basic system installed. A few packages have to come over the net, but mostly it installs from the DVDs. It needs a bit of expertize, so I wouldn't recommend it without previous experience of Debian. I was installing on machine with a high bandwidth connection, but I think it will probably be possible to get the few missing or broken packages over a dialup line. As amd64 etch is undergoing rapid evolution just now, you would want to update your DVDs, probably using jigdo, in the next month or two to save bandwidth. While etch is testing, just routine apt-get updates will be rather slow on dialup. ael -- Dr A E Lawrence http://www.lboro.ac.uk/departments/co/people/acad_staff/lawrence.html http://www-staff.lboro.ac.uk/~coael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nfs-kernel-server init script
Fernando M. Maresca [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this a bug in nfs-kernel-server package? Yes, http://bugs.debian.org/361026 . (It's already been fixed, though.) -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT a valid e-mail address) for more info. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about /etc/network/interfaces
Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: Le 07.04.2006 18:40:07, Sylvain Archenault a écrit : Hello, /etc/resolv.conf is automatically generated when I connect to internet. It contains 2 dns nameserver. which kind of modem do you use ? I use a pppoe modem connected via an ethernet interface. More precisely, it's a neuf box. Jean-Luc -- Sylvain Archenault -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
