Re: Software RAID5

2006-06-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Dan Serban [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Recent kernels and mdadm have support for rebuilding a raid
 now. Better to use that where possible.
 
 MfG
 Goswin
 
 

 To say.. move from RAID1 to RAID6?  I wasn't aware, seeing that the
 number of devices changes, and the filesystem has to be modified.  Cool
 if true.  I'll go rtfm.

I doubt that is ready yet. But other transformations are, raid5 with n
disks to n+1 disks and such. None of those will do filesystem
transformations and they don't need to. They just rearange the
underlying block device to the new scheme. If the device size changes
you have to resize the FS yourself.

MfG
Goswin


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k8-smp

2006-06-06 Thread Francesco Pietra
After the installation of amd64 etch with generic kernel, I chose a kernel for 
multi dual opteron.
uname -a reports:
Linux debian 2.6.15-1 amd64-k8-smp # SMP

In view of compilation, I I wonder about the following:

Dual (or more) Opteron designs are not SMP (Symmetric Multi Processor), but 
NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Architecture). With SMP the two CPUs share the same 
bus to memory, but with NUMA each CPU hassome local memory connected to a 
local memory bus. The other CPU can still get to that memory, but it's a bit 
slower. If you would only putin 1x 2GB, you will severely slow down the other 
CPU cause it has to go through the other CPU to do memory accesses. See 
ftp://ftp.tyan.com/datasheets/d_s2895_101.pdf 
The cpu design may have a bearing for the compilation of programs for 
multiprocessor systems, like mpqc (in the compilation notes, mpqc refers 
to symmetric multiprocessor, see 
http://www.mpqc.org/mpqc-snapshot-html/compile.html.

Do smp specified on kernel and NUMA for the opteron characteristics fit 
together? I can imagine that SMP specified on the kernel chosen simply refers 
to the presence of more than one dual-opteron. Anyway, it is a bit confusing 
because it might be seen in conflict with the NUMA characteristics of 
opteron.

If it is a silly question, I beg pardon.

francesco pietra


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Re: k8-smp

2006-06-06 Thread Jo Shields

Francesco Pietra wrote:
After the installation of amd64 etch with generic kernel, I chose a kernel for 
multi dual opteron.

uname -a reports:
Linux debian 2.6.15-1 amd64-k8-smp # SMP

In view of compilation, I I wonder about the following:

Dual (or more) Opteron designs are not SMP (Symmetric Multi Processor), but 
NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Architecture). With SMP the two CPUs share the same 
bus to memory, but with NUMA each CPU hassome local memory connected to a 
local memory bus. The other CPU can still get to that memory, but it's a bit 
slower. If you would only putin 1x 2GB, you will severely slow down the other 
CPU cause it has to go through the other CPU to do memory accesses. See 
ftp://ftp.tyan.com/datasheets/d_s2895_101.pdf 
The cpu design may have a bearing for the compilation of programs for 
multiprocessor systems, like mpqc (in the compilation notes, mpqc refers 
to symmetric multiprocessor, see 
http://www.mpqc.org/mpqc-snapshot-html/compile.html.
  


It's called SMP for traditional reasons - don't worry, it's perfectly 
appropriate for NUMA systems like Itanium and Opteron



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Problems with package verification

2006-06-06 Thread Aaron Stromas
Greetings,After changing my /etc/apt/sources.list to containdeb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-freeI am having problems with verifying packages:
# apt-get updateGet:1 http://http.us.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B]Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing ReleaseErr 
http://http.us.debian.org testing ReleaseGet:2 http://http.us.debian.org testing Release [35.4kB]Ign 
http://http.us.debian.org testing ReleaseHit http://http.us.debian.org testing/main PackagesHit http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free PackagesFetched 35.6kB in 2s (15.8kB/s)Reading package lists... DoneW: GPG error: 
http://http.us.debian.org testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5FW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
Also, if I attempt to run apt-setup, my selection are again mirror.espri.arizona.edu and debian.csail.mit.edu/. How can I get myself realigned again? TIA,
-a


Re: Problems with package verification

2006-06-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,

get the key 010908312D230C5F
 from a keyserver with gpg --recv-keys 010908312D230C5F  and import it
with apt-key add.

So use the following command:
gpg --recv-keys 010908312D230C5F sks.keyserver.penguin.de | apt-key add
-

Replace the keyserver with a more suitable server inside the U.S.
And after that you shouldn't bother anymore with missing keys.

Kind regards,
Marko Kaiser



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Re: Software RAID5

2006-06-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:25:48AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 I doubt that is ready yet. But other transformations are, raid5 with n
 disks to n+1 disks and such. None of those will do filesystem
 transformations and they don't need to. They just rearange the
 underlying block device to the new scheme. If the device size changes
 you have to resize the FS yourself.

Rearanging the underlying blocks is a major job, and if interrupted in
the middle, leaves a huge mess (unless it cleverly maintains the state
of the data somewhere).  The filesystem part on top is trivial to deal
with afterwards.

On the other hand, moving from raid5 with n disks to raid6 with n+1
disks, ought to be easier, although still not trivial.

Resizing raids is one of the few places a good hardware raid card seems
to have an advantage.

Len Sorensen


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Re: k8-smp

2006-06-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 10:12:33AM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 After the installation of amd64 etch with generic kernel, I chose a kernel 
 for 
 multi dual opteron.
 uname -a reports:
 Linux debian 2.6.15-1 amd64-k8-smp # SMP
 
 In view of compilation, I I wonder about the following:
 
 Dual (or more) Opteron designs are not SMP (Symmetric Multi Processor), but 
 NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Architecture). With SMP the two CPUs share the same 
 bus to memory, but with NUMA each CPU hassome local memory connected to a 
 local memory bus. The other CPU can still get to that memory, but it's a bit 
 slower. If you would only putin 1x 2GB, you will severely slow down the other 
 CPU cause it has to go through the other CPU to do memory accesses. See 
 ftp://ftp.tyan.com/datasheets/d_s2895_101.pdf 
 The cpu design may have a bearing for the compilation of programs for 
 multiprocessor systems, like mpqc (in the compilation notes, mpqc refers 
 to symmetric multiprocessor, see 
 http://www.mpqc.org/mpqc-snapshot-html/compile.html.

They _are_ SMP.  Every processor is identical and of the same speed.
The fact memory access speed is not symetric doesn't mean the CPUs
aren't.

 Do smp specified on kernel and NUMA for the opteron characteristics fit 
 together? I can imagine that SMP specified on the kernel chosen simply refers 
 to the presence of more than one dual-opteron. Anyway, it is a bit confusing 
 because it might be seen in conflict with the NUMA characteristics of 
 opteron.

SMP simply refers to more than one cpu thread/core/whatever executes
code.  Intel's hyper threading, dual core, multiple processors, all
require SMP.

 If it is a silly question, I beg pardon.

Not silly.  It is getting somewhat confusing.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Software RAID5

2006-06-06 Thread Matthias Julius
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I doubt that is ready yet. But other transformations are, raid5 with n
 disks to n+1 disks and such. None of those will do filesystem
 transformations and they don't need to. They just rearange the
 underlying block device to the new scheme. If the device size changes
 you have to resize the FS yourself.

That sounds very promising.  I wonder how LVM deals with a grown disk
used as PV.

Matthias


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Re: Software RAID5

2006-06-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:58:24AM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote:
 That sounds very promising.  I wonder how LVM deals with a grown disk
 used as PV.

Well I don't think I have tried that.  I have tried moving all LVM data
to other drives, then removing the PV, resizing it, and readding the
larger PV, and then adding it back to LVM.

I would hope LVM deals with resizing PVs though, but I did not want to
risk trying it.

Len Sorensen


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gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Francesco Pietra
Why with amd64 debian etch

$gcc -v
$gcc --version
are unrecognized and there is no
$man gcc
page?

While
#dselect
reveals that both
gcc-4.1 and make 
are installed from base installation.

Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use of queries 
with respect to 32bit etch.

thank you
francesco pietra


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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 Why with amd64 debian etch
 
 $gcc -v
 $gcc --version
 are unrecognized and there is no
 $man gcc
 page?
 
 While
 #dselect
 reveals that both
 gcc-4.1 and make 
 are installed from base installation.
 
 Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use of 
 queries 
 with respect to 32bit etch.

Is gcc installed?  gcc-4.1 provides gcc-4.1, gcc depends on the current
gcc, and provides the gcc link to the current version.

# dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc

Len Sorensen


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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi Len:
perhaps better for me to go for a jogging, or make a cup of strong green tea, 
because I am getting really confused:

#dselect
shows that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed (blank*** with the last * 
highlighted, as for packages that work, like apt)

In contrast (?)
#dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc
dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc not found

but see below from a perusal of directories

Installation was in differet partitions and raid1: /, /usr, /var/ 
swap, /home, /tmp

/usr/bin includes, inter alia, g++-4.1, gcc-4.1, gccbug-4.1

Previously I was trying to compile a program that has Makefile only:
$make
gcc -g -02 -c -o active.o active.c
make: *** [active.o] Error 127

thank you
francesco pietra

On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:00, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
  Why with amd64 debian etch
 
  $gcc -v
  $gcc --version
  are unrecognized and there is no
  $man gcc
  page?
 
  While
  #dselect
  reveals that both
  gcc-4.1 and make
  are installed from base installation.
 
  Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use of
  queries with respect to 32bit etch.

 Is gcc installed?  gcc-4.1 provides gcc-4.1, gcc depends on the current
 gcc, and provides the gcc link to the current version.

 # dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc
 gcc: /usr/bin/gcc

 Len Sorensen


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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Jo Shields

Francesco Pietra wrote:

Hi Len:
perhaps better for me to go for a jogging, or make a cup of strong green tea, 
because I am getting really confused:


#dselect
shows that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed (blank*** with the last * 
highlighted, as for packages that work, like apt)


In contrast (?)
#dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc
dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc not found

but see below from a perusal of directories

Installation was in differet partitions and raid1: /, /usr, /var/ 
swap, /home, /tmp


/usr/bin includes, inter alia, g++-4.1, gcc-4.1, gccbug-4.1

Previously I was trying to compile a program that has Makefile only:
$make
gcc -g -02 -c -o active.o active.c
make: *** [active.o] Error 127

thank you
francesco pietra

On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:00, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
  

On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:


Why with amd64 debian etch

$gcc -v
$gcc --version
are unrecognized and there is no
$man gcc
page?

While
#dselect
reveals that both
gcc-4.1 and make
are installed from base installation.

Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use of
queries with respect to 32bit etch.
  

Is gcc installed?  gcc-4.1 provides gcc-4.1, gcc depends on the current
gcc, and provides the gcc link to the current version.

# dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc

Len Sorensen



gcc is a symbolic link, provided by the gcc package. Since you don't 
have the gcc package, you have no gcc.


Either compile your app using gcc-4.1 instead of gcc, or install the 
gcc package.



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Re: Software RAID5

2006-06-06 Thread Matthias Julius
Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:58:24AM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote:
 That sounds very promising.  I wonder how LVM deals with a grown disk
 used as PV.

 Well I don't think I have tried that.  I have tried moving all LVM data
 to other drives, then removing the PV, resizing it, and readding the
 larger PV, and then adding it back to LVM.

Unfortunately my RAID5 is the only volume in my LVM.  So it is not
really possible here to move the date somewhere else.


 I would hope LVM deals with resizing PVs though, but I did not want to
 risk trying it.

I would be willing to risk that (since I have a backup).  I just would
like to know before whether and how LVM is supposed to deal with that.

I guess I should go back and RTFM.

Matthias


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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi Joe:
Thank you. Because gcc is called by $make, I tried to install gcc:

#apt-get install gcc
gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (=4.0.2-5) but is not installable
E: Broken packages.

francesco pietra

On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:45, Jo Shields wrote:
 Francesco Pietra wrote:
  Hi Len:
  perhaps better for me to go for a jogging, or make a cup of strong green
  tea, because I am getting really confused:
 
  #dselect
  shows that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed (blank*** with the last *
  highlighted, as for packages that work, like apt)
 
  In contrast (?)
  #dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc
  dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc not found
 
  but see below from a perusal of directories
 
  Installation was in differet partitions and raid1: /, /usr, /var/
  swap, /home, /tmp
 
  /usr/bin includes, inter alia, g++-4.1, gcc-4.1, gccbug-4.1
 
  Previously I was trying to compile a program that has Makefile only:
  $make
  gcc -g -02 -c -o active.o active.c
  make: *** [active.o] Error 127
 
  thank you
  francesco pietra
 
  On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:00, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
  Why with amd64 debian etch
 
  $gcc -v
  $gcc --version
  are unrecognized and there is no
  $man gcc
  page?
 
  While
  #dselect
  reveals that both
  gcc-4.1 and make
  are installed from base installation.
 
  Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use of
  queries with respect to 32bit etch.
 
  Is gcc installed?  gcc-4.1 provides gcc-4.1, gcc depends on the current
  gcc, and provides the gcc link to the current version.
 
  # dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc
  gcc: /usr/bin/gcc
 
  Len Sorensen

 gcc is a symbolic link, provided by the gcc package. Since you don't
 have the gcc package, you have no gcc.

 Either compile your app using gcc-4.1 instead of gcc, or install the
 gcc package.


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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Matthew Robinson




Francesco Pietra wrote:

  Hi Joe:
Thank you. Because gcc is called by $make, I tried to install gcc:

#apt-get install gcc
gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (=4.0.2-5) but is not installable
E: Broken packages.

francesco pietra

On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:45, Jo Shields wrote:
  
  
Francesco Pietra wrote:


  Hi Len:
perhaps better for me to go for a jogging, or make a cup of strong green
tea, because I am getting really confused:

#dselect
shows that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed (blank*** with the last *
highlighted, as for packages that work, like apt)

In contrast (?)
#dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc
dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc not found

but see below from a perusal of directories

Installation was in differet partitions and raid1: /, /usr, /var/
swap, /home, /tmp

/usr/bin includes, inter alia, g++-4.1, gcc-4.1, gccbug-4.1

Previously I was trying to compile a program that has Makefile only:
$make
gcc -g -02 -c -o active.o active.c
make: *** [active.o] Error 127

thank you
francesco pietra

On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:00, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
  
  
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:


  Why with amd64 debian etch

$gcc -v
$gcc --version
are unrecognized and there is no
$man gcc
page?

While
#dselect
reveals that both
gcc-4.1 and make
are installed from base installation.

Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use of
queries with respect to 32bit etch.
  

Is gcc installed?  gcc-4.1 provides gcc-4.1, gcc depends on the current
gcc, and provides the gcc link to the current version.

# dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc
gcc: /usr/bin/gcc

Len Sorensen

  

"gcc" is a symbolic link, provided by the "gcc" package. Since you don't
have the "gcc" package, you have no "gcc".

Either compile your app using "gcc-4.1" instead of "gcc", or install the
"gcc" package.

  
  

  

How about alias:

alias gcc="gcc-4.1" make

or a symlink:

ln -s `which gcc-4.1` /usr/local/bin/gcc






Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 03:41:33PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 Hi Len:
 perhaps better for me to go for a jogging, or make a cup of strong green tea, 
 because I am getting really confused:
 
 #dselect
 shows that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed (blank*** with the last * 
 highlighted, as for packages that work, like apt)

Does dselect show gcc (not gcc-4.1) as installed?

Does 'dpkg -l gcc' say gcc is installed?

Does 'apt-get install gcc' do anything?

 In contrast (?)
 #dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc
 dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc not found

So you don't have a /usr/bin/gcc which probably means you don't have the
gcc (no version) package installed.

 but see below from a perusal of directories
 
 Installation was in differet partitions and raid1: /, /usr, /var/ 
 swap, /home, /tmp
 
 /usr/bin includes, inter alia, g++-4.1, gcc-4.1, gccbug-4.1

 Previously I was trying to compile a program that has Makefile only:
 $make
 gcc -g -02 -c -o active.o active.c
 make: *** [active.o] Error 127

Makes sense.  If only gcc-4.1 is installed, then you only have
/usr/bin/gcc-4.1, not /usr/bin/gcc since the gcc package provides that.

As far as I can tell, gcc still depends on gcc-4.0 since the transition
isn't done to gcc 4.1, so using gcc will currently use gcc-4.0.3 until
it is transitioned and the gcc package updated to default to gcc-4.1.

Here is the state of my machine right now:
debian:~# dpkg -l gcc\*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
|
Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
uppercase=bad)
||/ Name  Version
Description
+++-=-=-==
ii  gcc   4.0.3-4 The GNU C compiler
un  gcc-2.95  none (no description available)
un  gcc-3.2   none (no description available)
ii  gcc-3.3-base  3.3.6-13 The GNU Compiler Collection 
(base package)
un  gcc-3.5   none (no description available)
un  gcc-3.5-base  none (no description available)
ii  gcc-4.0   4.0.3-3 The GNU C compiler
ii  gcc-4.0-base  4.0.3-3 The GNU Compiler Collection (base 
package)
un  gcc-4.0-doc   none (no description available)
un  gcc-4.0-locales   none (no description available)
ii  gcc-4.1   4.1.1-2 The GNU C compiler
ii  gcc-4.1-base  4.1.1-2 The GNU Compiler Collection (base 
package)
un  gcc-4.1-doc   none (no description available)
un  gcc-4.1-locales   none (no description available)
un  gcc-doc   none (no description available)

So I have installed the packages:
gcc gcc-3.3-base gcc-4.0 gcc-4.0-base gcc-4.1 gcc-4.1-base

Len Sorensen


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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi Matthew:
Thank you. However:

$alias gcc=gcc-4.1 make
-bash: alias: make: not found

$man alias
No manual entry for alias

I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea

francesco pietra

On Tuesday 06 June 2006 18:20, Matthew Robinson wrote:
 Francesco Pietra wrote:
  Hi Joe:
  Thank you. Because gcc is called by $make, I tried to install gcc:
 
  #apt-get install gcc
  gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (=4.0.2-5) but is not installable
  E: Broken packages.
 
  francesco pietra
 
  On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:45, Jo Shields wrote:
  Francesco Pietra wrote:
  Hi Len:
  perhaps better for me to go for a jogging, or make a cup of strong
  green tea, because I am getting really confused:
 
  #dselect
  shows that both gcc-4.1 and make are installed (blank*** with the last
  * highlighted, as for packages that work, like apt)
 
  In contrast (?)
  #dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc
  dpkg: /usr/bin/gcc not found
 
  but see below from a perusal of directories
 
  Installation was in differet partitions and raid1: /, /usr, /var/
  swap, /home, /tmp
 
  /usr/bin includes, inter alia, g++-4.1, gcc-4.1, gccbug-4.1
 
  Previously I was trying to compile a program that has Makefile only:
  $make
  gcc -g -02 -c -o active.o active.c
  make: *** [active.o] Error 127
 
  thank you
  francesco pietra
 
  On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:00, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 02:57:53PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
  Why with amd64 debian etch
 
  $gcc -v
  $gcc --version
  are unrecognized and there is no
  $man gcc
  page?
 
  While
  #dselect
  reveals that both
  gcc-4.1 and make
  are installed from base installation.
 
  Of course my question is not merely related to that, but to the use
  of queries with respect to 32bit etch.
 
  Is gcc installed?  gcc-4.1 provides gcc-4.1, gcc depends on the
  current gcc, and provides the gcc link to the current version.
 
  # dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc
  gcc: /usr/bin/gcc
 
  Len Sorensen
 
  gcc is a symbolic link, provided by the gcc package. Since you don't
  have the gcc package, you have no gcc.
 
  Either compile your app using gcc-4.1 instead of gcc, or install the
  gcc package.

 How about alias:

 alias gcc=gcc-4.1 make

 or a symlink:

 ln -s `which gcc-4.1` /usr/local/bin/gcc


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Re: Software RAID5

2006-06-06 Thread Paul Brook
  I would hope LVM deals with resizing PVs though, but I did not want to
  risk trying it.

 I would be willing to risk that (since I have a backup).  I just would
 like to know before whether and how LVM is supposed to deal with that.

man pvresize

Paul


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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 Hi Matthew:
 Thank you. However:
 
 $alias gcc=gcc-4.1 make
 -bash: alias: make: not found
 
 $man alias
 No manual entry for alias
 
 I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea

I think that should have been:
# alias gcc=gcc-4.1
# make

Not sure make can use shell aliases though.

So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not
currently installable for some reason on your system.

What output/errors do you get from:
apt-get install gcc-4.0

Len Sorensen


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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Francesco Pietra
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 20:13, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
  Hi Matthew:
  Thank you. However:
 
  $alias gcc=gcc-4.1 make
  -bash: alias: make: not found
 
  $man alias
  No manual entry for alias
 
  I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea

 I think that should have been:
 # alias gcc=gcc-4.1
 # make
Retrying as you suggest as root, the first command returns the root prompt
#make
gcc - g -02  -c -o active.o active.c
make: gcc: Command not found
make: *** [active.o] Error 127
that is, as if the alis was not activated.


 Not sure make can use shell aliases though.

 So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not
 currently installable for some reason on your system.

Just to detail what errors:
#apt-get install gcc
gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (=4.0.2-5) but it is not installable.
E: Broken packages.

 What output/errors do you get from:
 apt-get install gcc-4.0

#apt-get install gcc-4.0
Reading..
Building dependency tree...
Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may 
mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available 
from another source.
However the following packages replace it:
gcc-4.0-locales
W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at http:...
E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate.

My sources.list from which the net installation was carried out with only main 
and the row end (subsequently, apt-get update did nothing):
deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
deb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free

thanks a lot for your interest and kind advice

francesco pietra

 Len Sorensen


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Re: sarge3 kernel build r3

2006-06-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 21:32, dann frazier wrote:
 I don't think its very likely that amd64/sarge will be added to
 debian.org,

I did not mean to imply that of course.

 but this is a good question for the amd64.debian.net maintainers. 

The main reason we need to know is that the d-i source needs to be updated 
for the ABI change and so we need to know if this update should happen 
for AMD64 as well as for the other arches *before* we _upload_ it.

Also, from a CD building point of view amd64 is the same as other arches, 
even if its packages reside on a different mirror. CDs for amd64 are 
normally built at the same time as other arches and it would be nice if 
they could follow the same timeline as the main archive.

If need be, the _build_ of the new installer images and the build of CDs 
for AMD64 could be delayed, but preferably not.


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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Alexander Samad
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 08:11:01PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 June 2006 20:13, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
   Hi Matthew:
   Thank you. However:
  
   $alias gcc=gcc-4.1 make
   -bash: alias: make: not found
  
   $man alias
   No manual entry for alias
  
   I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea
 
  I think that should have been:
  # alias gcc=gcc-4.1
  # make
 Retrying as you suggest as root, the first command returns the root prompt
 #make
 gcc - g -02  -c -o active.o active.c
 make: gcc: Command not found
 make: *** [active.o] Error 127
 that is, as if the alis was not activated.
 
 
  Not sure make can use shell aliases though.
 
  So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not
  currently installable for some reason on your system.
 
 Just to detail what errors:
 #apt-get install gcc
 gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (=4.0.2-5) but it is not installable.
 E: Broken packages.
 
  What output/errors do you get from:
  apt-get install gcc-4.0
 
 #apt-get install gcc-4.0
 Reading..
 Building dependency tree...
 Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may 
 mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available 
 from another source.
 However the following packages replace it:
 gcc-4.0-locales
 W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at http:...
 E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate.
 
 My sources.list from which the net installation was carried out with only 
 main 
 and the row end (subsequently, apt-get update did nothing):
 deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

Think you have to change your repository to the main debain ones, as
etch has been moved to there

something like 
ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free



 
 deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
 
 thanks a lot for your interest and kind advice
 
 francesco pietra
 
  Len Sorensen
 
 
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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 08:11:01PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 June 2006 20:13, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
   Hi Matthew:
   Thank you. However:
  
   $alias gcc=gcc-4.1 make
   -bash: alias: make: not found
  
   $man alias
   No manual entry for alias
  
   I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea
 
  I think that should have been:
  # alias gcc=gcc-4.1
  # make
 Retrying as you suggest as root, the first command returns the root prompt
 #make
 gcc - g -02  -c -o active.o active.c
 make: gcc: Command not found
 make: *** [active.o] Error 127
 that is, as if the alis was not activated.
 
 
  Not sure make can use shell aliases though.
 
  So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not
  currently installable for some reason on your system.
 
 Just to detail what errors:
 #apt-get install gcc
 gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (=4.0.2-5) but it is not installable.
 E: Broken packages.
 
  What output/errors do you get from:
  apt-get install gcc-4.0
 
 #apt-get install gcc-4.0
 Reading..
 Building dependency tree...
 Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may 
 mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available 
 from another source.
 However the following packages replace it:
 gcc-4.0-locales
 W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at http:...
 E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate.
 
 My sources.list from which the net installation was carried out with only 
 main 
 and the row end (subsequently, apt-get update did nothing):
 deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

That is not a valid source anymore.  It isn't maintained.  You can use:

http://location/debian etch main contrib non-free

or http://location/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free

Only sarge is maintained on the old unofficial amd64 sites.  etch and
sid are no longer updated.  You have to move to the official debian
mirrors with /debian dir instead.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Software RAID5

2006-06-06 Thread Matthias Julius
Paul Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 man pvresize

Ahh, this is new in testing.  I didn't know that since I am running
Sarge.  And there is no pvresize.

Thanks,

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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Matthias Julius
Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I think that should have been:
 # alias gcc=gcc-4.1
 # make

What also might work (depending on Makefile):

# CC=gcc-4.1 make

or

# ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.1 /usr/local/bin/gcc
(if /usr/local/bin is in $PATH)


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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Francesco Pietra
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 00:05, Matthias Julius wrote:
 Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I think that should have been:
  # alias gcc=gcc-4.1
  # make

 What also might work (depending on Makefile):

 # CC=gcc-4.1 make

# CC=gcc-4.1 make
make: gcc: Command not found
make: *** [active.o] Error 127

 or

 # ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.1 /usr/local/bin/gcc
 (if /usr/local/bin is in $PATH)


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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Francesco Pietra
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 23:24, Alexander Samad wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 08:11:01PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
  On Tuesday 06 June 2006 20:13, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
   On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
Hi Matthew:
Thank you. However:
   
$alias gcc=gcc-4.1 make
-bash: alias: make: not found
   
$man alias
No manual entry for alias
   
I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea
  
   I think that should have been:
   # alias gcc=gcc-4.1
   # make
 
  Retrying as you suggest as root, the first command returns the root
  prompt #make
  gcc - g -02  -c -o active.o active.c
  make: gcc: Command not found
  make: *** [active.o] Error 127
  that is, as if the alis was not activated.
 
   Not sure make can use shell aliases though.
  
   So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not
   currently installable for some reason on your system.
 
  Just to detail what errors:
  #apt-get install gcc
  gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (=4.0.2-5) but it is not installable.
  E: Broken packages.
 
   What output/errors do you get from:
   apt-get install gcc-4.0
 
  #apt-get install gcc-4.0
  Reading..
  Building dependency tree...
  Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This
  may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only
  available from another source.
  However the following packages replace it:
  gcc-4.0-locales
  W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at
  http:... E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate.
 
  My sources.list from which the net installation was carried out with only
  main and the row end (subsequently, apt-get update did nothing):
  deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib
  non-free deb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main
  contrib non-free

 Think you have to change your repository to the main debain ones, as
 etch has been moved to there

 something like
 ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free

Now tried:
#apt-get update (or upgrade) with sources.list
 deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
 deb-src ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
 deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
fails to give access to either sources or security updates and no 
update/upgrade occurs at all

Then also tried:
#apt-get update (or upgrade) with sources.list
 deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
 deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
 deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
fails to give access to either sources or security updates and no 
update/upgrade occurs at all

(installation was from etch beta 2 release installer; netinstall from 
debian.inode.at) 

francesco pietra

___

  deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
 
  thanks a lot for your interest and kind advice
 
  francesco pietra
 
   Len Sorensen
 
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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Francesco Pietra
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 23:24, Alexander Samad wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 08:11:01PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
  On Tuesday 06 June 2006 20:13, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
   On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
Hi Matthew:
Thank you. However:
   
$alias gcc=gcc-4.1 make
-bash: alias: make: not found
   
$man alias
No manual entry for alias
   
I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea
  
   I think that should have been:
   # alias gcc=gcc-4.1
   # make
 
  Retrying as you suggest as root, the first command returns the root
  prompt #make
  gcc - g -02  -c -o active.o active.c
  make: gcc: Command not found
  make: *** [active.o] Error 127
  that is, as if the alis was not activated.
 
   Not sure make can use shell aliases though.
  
   So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not
   currently installable for some reason on your system.
 
  Just to detail what errors:
  #apt-get install gcc
  gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (=4.0.2-5) but it is not installable.
  E: Broken packages.
 
   What output/errors do you get from:
   apt-get install gcc-4.0
 
  #apt-get install gcc-4.0
  Reading..
  Building dependency tree...
  Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This
  may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only
  available from another source.
  However the following packages replace it:
  gcc-4.0-locales
  W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at
  http:... E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate.
 
  My sources.list from which the net installation was carried out with only
  main and the row end (subsequently, apt-get update did nothing):
  deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib
  non-free deb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main
  contrib non-free

 Think you have to change your repository to the main debain ones, as
 etch has been moved to there

 something like
 ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free

Now tried:
#apt-get update (or upgrade) with sources.list
 deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
 deb-src ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
 deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
fails to give access to either sources or security updates and no 
update/upgrade occurs at all

Then also tried:
#apt-get update (or upgrade) with sources.list
 deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
 deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
 deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
fails to give access to either sources or security updates and no 
update/upgrade occurs at all

(installation was from etch beta 2 release installer; netinstall from 
debian.inode.at) 

TO ADD that with either 'au' or without in the sources.list, the result of gcc 
trial install is the same as with debian.inode.at, i.e.:

#apt-get install gcc-4.0
Reading..
Building dependency tree...
Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may 
mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available 
from another source.
However the following packages replace it:
gcc-4.0-locales
W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at http:...
E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate.

francesco pietra

___

  deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
 
  thanks a lot for your interest and kind advice
 
  francesco pietra
 
   Len Sorensen
 
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Re: Problems with package verification

2006-06-06 Thread Aaron Stromas

On 6/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

get the key 010908312D230C5F
 from a keyserver with gpg --recv-keys 010908312D230C5F  and import it
with apt-key add.

So use the following command:
gpg --recv-keys 010908312D230C5F sks.keyserver.penguin.de | apt-key add
-

Replace the keyserver with a more suitable server inside the U.S.
And after that you shouldn't bother anymore with missing keys.


Thanks for the advice but it seems that key isn't found. For example,

velo# gpg --recv-keys 010908312D230C5F keyserver.pgp.com | apt-key add
gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory
gpg: keyserver.pgp.com not a key ID: skipping
gpg: requesting key 2D230C5F from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
gpg: key 2D230C5F: Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:  unchanged: 1

I tries a couple other keyservers with the same results. What else can
I try? TIA,

-a


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Re: gcc

2006-06-06 Thread Scott Lair
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 06:15 pm, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 June 2006 23:24, Alexander Samad wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 08:11:01PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
   On Tuesday 06 June 2006 20:13, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 04:38:20PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 Hi Matthew:
 Thank you. However:

 $alias gcc=gcc-4.1 make
 -bash: alias: make: not found

 $man alias
 No manual entry for alias

 I am making a cup of doubly strong green tea
   
I think that should have been:
# alias gcc=gcc-4.1
# make
  
   Retrying as you suggest as root, the first command returns the root
   prompt #make
   gcc - g -02  -c -o active.o active.c
   make: gcc: Command not found
   make: *** [active.o] Error 127
   that is, as if the alis was not activated.
  
Not sure make can use shell aliases though.
   
So your real problem is that gcc-4.0 which gcc depends on is not
currently installable for some reason on your system.
  
   Just to detail what errors:
   #apt-get install gcc
   gcc: Depends: gcc-4.0 (=4.0.2-5) but it is not installable.
   E: Broken packages.
  
What output/errors do you get from:
apt-get install gcc-4.0
  
   #apt-get install gcc-4.0
   Reading..
   Building dependency tree...
   Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
   This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is
   only available from another source.
   However the following packages replace it:
   gcc-4.0-locales
   W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at
   http:... E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate.
  
   My sources.list from which the net installation was carried out with
   only main and the row end (subsequently, apt-get update did nothing):
   deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib
   non-free deb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main
   contrib non-free
 
  Think you have to change your repository to the main debain ones, as
  etch has been moved to there
 
  something like
  ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free

 Now tried:
 #apt-get update (or upgrade) with sources.list
  deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
  deb-src ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
  deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
 fails to give access to either sources or security updates and no
 update/upgrade occurs at all

 Then also tried:
 #apt-get update (or upgrade) with sources.list
  deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
  deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
  deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
 fails to give access to either sources or security updates and no
 update/upgrade occurs at all

 (installation was from etch beta 2 release installer; netinstall from
 debian.inode.at)

 TO ADD that with either 'au' or without in the sources.list, the result of
 gcc trial install is the same as with debian.inode.at, i.e.:

 #apt-get install gcc-4.0
 Reading..
 Building dependency tree...
 Package 4.0 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This
 may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only
 available from another source.
 However the following packages replace it:
 gcc-4.0-locales
 W. (a series of warnings that Couldn't stat source package list at http:...
 E: Package gcc-4.0 has no installation candidate.

 francesco pietra

 ___

   deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
   deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
  
   thanks a lot for your interest and kind advice
  
   francesco pietra
  
Len Sorensen
  
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May as well try this

# alias gcc=gcc-4.1
# export gcc
# make


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