Question: package listing with apt

2006-10-09 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi all,
how can I list all installed packages in the shell ? I suppose it can be done 
using apt, but with apt-cache or apt-show I could not find a way. What did I 
miss ?

Regards

Hans


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Re: LVM root?

2006-10-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Albert Dengg) writes:

> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 03:01:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> > Part.  mount  size
>> > ==
>> > 1  /boot  32 MB
>> > 5  /  200 MB
>> 
>> Merge them and maybe give it some extra space. When you collect a few
>> different kernels the /lib/modules dir grows on you. A bit of
>> breathing room saves you from having to clean up on every kernel
>> upgrade.
> i would not merge them since grub does not support lvm at the moment...
> (there are rumours about lvm2 support in grub2 though i havent
> tried/tested it
>
> yours
> albert

That suggestion was obviously under the assumption of / not on
lvm. Otherwise it wouldn't be partition 5 in the first place.

MfG
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Re: writing dvd problem

2006-10-09 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón

I see one time this error if my memory is working right and means your
kernel must support the filesystem in the DVD...

On 10/9/06, Andrew Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 11:50:09PM +1000, garrone wrote:
> Hi,
>  Writing to dvd's appears to work as normal, but reading them back
>  fails, with the following appearing from dmesg
>
>  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!

What do you mean by "reading them back"?  Mounting them?  I've never
seen that error message when mount fails.

>  I am running 2.6.17, testing distribution, with version 6.1-3 of
>  dvd+rw-tools package.
>
>  I can boot up to 2.6.11 recovery mode, running an old ubuntu distro,
>  and am able to write and read back OK then. I also definitely did
>  a backup with an amd64 setup, but cannot recall the version. It may
>  have been the stable version.
>
>  If I attempt to boot to recovery mode and write, I get the message
>  on the console:
>
> :-( Unable to anonymously mmap 33554432: resource temporarily
> unavailable.

I used to get this all the time.  I don't really know what made it go
away, but eventually it did.  Either a kernel upgrade or a libc upgrade
or something.  That was quite a few months ago now.

a


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Re: Google Earth woes

2006-10-09 Thread Seb
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:19:06 +0100,
Jo Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[...]

> The nvidia-installer indiscriminately overwrites key files in /usr,
> leading to major system death in the event of upgraded X-related
> packages.

> The Debian packages come in three parts that you need care about.
> nvidia-glx contains the driver for your current architecture. In order
> to function, it requires a kernel module, provided by
> nvidia-kernel-NVIDIAVERSION. This package doesn't actually exist - you
> create one, by compiling against your specific kernel, using
> "module-assistant" and "nvidia-kernel-source". More specifically, "m-a
> prepare && m-a a-i nvidia" will download everything required to compile
> an nvidia kernel module, create the .deb, and install it (or will use
> your local nvidia-kernel-source package if it's newer than your mirror).

> With your nvidia-kernel-NVIDIAVERSION installed, you can install
> nvidia-glx. You may also wish to add nvidia-glx-ia32 (32-bit driver, for
> use with 32-bit apps) and nvidia-settings (control panel thing to
> control card settings) to the mix.


Thanks Jo for these very helpful suggestions.  Before tackling that
though, I tried to uninstall the Nvidia driver I installed with Nvidia's
own script using (thanks to a previous poster):

sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8774-pkg2.run --uninstall

But this sort of wrecked my system because next time I tried to reboot, X
would not come up with the usual dialog to log in.  I had to install it
again.  Can I proceed as you suggest and then uninstall NVidia's driver
like above?


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Re: Google Earth woes

2006-10-09 Thread Jo Shields
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 09:56 -0500, Seb wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:02:34 +0530,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alok G. Singh) wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > There is a beta 9625 driver out which fixes the problem on my
> > 6200TC. The debs are in experimental. You'll also need nvidia-glx.
> 
> Thanks, yes, I had an interesting off-list exchange with somebody that
> pointed this out to me as well.  However, I'm now unsure about how to
> uninstall my non-Debian Nvidia driver that I got directly from Nvidia.
> I couldn't find any directions on how to do this on their documentation.
> Can somebody please provide some pointers on how to do this?  In fact, the
> only reason I didn't go with the Debian package to start with is because I
> wasn't sure which package to install (there are several nvidia-* packages
> and it's not clear which one is needed for any particular system).  So any
> help on making this choice is appreciated.

The nvidia-installer indiscriminately overwrites key files in /usr,
leading to major system death in the event of upgraded X-related
packages.

The Debian packages come in three parts that you need care about.
nvidia-glx contains the driver for your current architecture. In order
to function, it requires a kernel module, provided by
nvidia-kernel-NVIDIAVERSION. This package doesn't actually exist - you
create one, by compiling against your specific kernel, using
"module-assistant" and "nvidia-kernel-source". More specifically, "m-a
prepare && m-a a-i nvidia" will download everything required to compile
an nvidia kernel module, create the .deb, and install it (or will use
your local nvidia-kernel-source package if it's newer than your mirror).

With your nvidia-kernel-NVIDIAVERSION installed, you can install
nvidia-glx. You may also wish to add nvidia-glx-ia32 (32-bit driver, for
use with 32-bit apps) and nvidia-settings (control panel thing to
control card settings) to the mix.

--Jo


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Re: i386 or amd64?

2006-10-09 Thread Frank Hart
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 04:07:47PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What software packages available for i386 will not be ready for AMD64
> when Etch becomes stable and is released (in December?)?

I use both amd64 and i386 and I don't notice a performance difference.
What I do find annoying is that there is no (good) java plugin for
firefox and there are no w32codecs available. None of which is Debian's
fault but it is inconvenient. I rather switch completely to amd64 but
for now I only use it for my servers.

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Re: writing dvd problem

2006-10-09 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 11:50:09PM +1000, garrone wrote:
> Hi,
>  Writing to dvd's appears to work as normal, but reading them back
>  fails, with the following appearing from dmesg
> 
>  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!

What do you mean by "reading them back"?  Mounting them?  I've never
seen that error message when mount fails.

>  I am running 2.6.17, testing distribution, with version 6.1-3 of
>  dvd+rw-tools package.
> 
>  I can boot up to 2.6.11 recovery mode, running an old ubuntu distro,
>  and am able to write and read back OK then. I also definitely did
>  a backup with an amd64 setup, but cannot recall the version. It may
>  have been the stable version.
> 
>  If I attempt to boot to recovery mode and write, I get the message
>  on the console:
> 
> :-( Unable to anonymously mmap 33554432: resource temporarily
> unavailable.

I used to get this all the time.  I don't really know what made it go
away, but eventually it did.  Either a kernel upgrade or a libc upgrade
or something.  That was quite a few months ago now.

a


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Re: i386 or amd64?

2006-10-09 Thread Thomas Steffen

On 10/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Other than non-free stuff like flash and openoffice,
is there anything in the main section of i386 that isn't in the main
section of AMD64?


A few minor things are missing, such as memtest86, partimage, and of
course wine. Also note that most java-packages come without the plugin
in 64bit.


In other words, what are people having to use a chroot i386 for?


Closed software such as acrobat reader, flash, skype, vmware, picasa,
googleearth etc. Most can be installed without a change root, but that
is a bit of a struggle.

Since you have only 1 GB of RAM, you can go with i386 without any
obvious penalty. With amd64 you can get a little bit more performance,
but you are also more likely to run into problems, such as the ones
mentioned here.

Thomas


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Re: Google Earth woes

2006-10-09 Thread Alok G. Singh
On  9 Oct 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> However, I'm now unsure about how to uninstall my non-Debian Nvidia
> driver that I got directly from Nvidia.

I think there is an --uninstall option. It should be there in the
README anyway.

> In fact, the only reason I didn't go with the Debian package to
> start with is because I wasn't sure which package to install (there
> are several nvidia-* packages and it's not clear which one is needed
> for any particular system).

First off, it is better that you use the only the debian packages. You
need just two packages -- nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-glx[1]. I use
module-assistant to compile the nvidia.ko kernel module. You'll need
the kernel source tree matching your kernel[2]. The tree has to be
configured -- make-kpkg configure should be enough.

There is a README in the nvidia-kernel-source package. Personally, I
do it as:

$ m-a update
$ m-a build nvidia-kernel-source

You get a deb package that you can install 

$ sudo dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-.deb

Check http://nvnews.net for more information. 

Footnotes: 

[1] And the nvidia-glx-dev package if you building OpenGL
programs. Take all three from experimental.
[2] If you are running a debian kernel linux-tree-
matching your running kernel should be enough.

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Re: Google Earth woes

2006-10-09 Thread Seb
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:02:34 +0530,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alok G. Singh) wrote:

[...]

> There is a beta 9625 driver out which fixes the problem on my
> 6200TC. The debs are in experimental. You'll also need nvidia-glx.

Thanks, yes, I had an interesting off-list exchange with somebody that
pointed this out to me as well.  However, I'm now unsure about how to
uninstall my non-Debian Nvidia driver that I got directly from Nvidia.
I couldn't find any directions on how to do this on their documentation.
Can somebody please provide some pointers on how to do this?  In fact, the
only reason I didn't go with the Debian package to start with is because I
wasn't sure which package to install (there are several nvidia-* packages
and it's not clear which one is needed for any particular system).  So any
help on making this choice is appreciated.


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Re: i386 or amd64?

2006-10-09 Thread Matthias Julius
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I've just about finished building my new computer and need to decide
> which Debian port to install (i386 vs AMD64).
>
> Hardware:
>   Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe motherboard
>   AMD AM2 Athlon 64 3800+ (The best AM2 not on long back-order)
>   One 1-GB stick of 800 MHz ECC ram

Just a note: Board and CPU support dual channel RAM.  It probably
takes a performance hit if you give it only one memory module.

Matthias


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writing dvd problem

2006-10-09 Thread garrone
Hi,
 Writing to dvd's appears to work as normal, but reading them back
 fails, with the following appearing from dmesg

 cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!

 I am running 2.6.17, testing distribution, with version 6.1-3 of
 dvd+rw-tools package.

 I can boot up to 2.6.11 recovery mode, running an old ubuntu distro,
 and am able to write and read back OK then. I also definitely did
 a backup with an amd64 setup, but cannot recall the version. It may
 have been the stable version.

 If I attempt to boot to recovery mode and write, I get the message
 on the console:

:-( Unable to anonymously mmap 33554432: resource temporarily
unavailable.

I normally use the command

$ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=

but the gnome dvd creator fails also.

So if anyone has any ideas here, would be grateful

Peter Garrone


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Re: LVM root?

2006-10-09 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:21:42AM +0200, Albert Dengg wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 03:01:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > Part.  mount  size
> > > ==
> > > 1  /boot  32 MB
> > > 5  /  200 MB
> > 
> > Merge them and maybe give it some extra space. When you collect a few
> > different kernels the /lib/modules dir grows on you. A bit of
> > breathing room saves you from having to clean up on every kernel
> > upgrade.
> i would not merge them since grub does not support lvm at the moment...
> (there are rumours about lvm2 support in grub2 though i havent
> tried/tested it

Perhaps more to the point, make sure you have room for several
kernels in /boot. You don't have to uninstall a kernel in order
to install a new one.  If you are careful with your lilo, or grub,
you can get a choice of kernels at boot time.  This in invaluable
if the new kernel doesn't work!

I've found 50MB for / to be too cramped at times.

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Re: Google Earth woes

2006-10-09 Thread Alok G. Singh
On  8 Oct 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Reading the references it does seem to be an Nvidia driver bug,
> which they say will be fixed in the next release.  Sounds like we'll
> just have to wait for that.

There is a beta 9625 driver out which fixes the problem on my
6200TC. The debs are in experimental. You'll also need
nvidia-glx.

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Re: i386 or amd64?

2006-10-09 Thread Rene Engelhard
Am Sonntag, 8. Oktober 2006 03:09 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:21:43PM +0200, HXC wrote:
> > My advice: go for amd64. It meets for 99% my needs (the other 1% can 
> > easily be done with an chroot envirnoment)
>  
> Other than non-free stuff like flash and openoffice, 

OOo is not non-free.
At least not generally.

Regards,

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Re: i386 or amd64?

2006-10-09 Thread Giacomo Mulas

On Sat, 7 Oct 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:21:43PM +0200, HXC wrote:

Other than non-free stuff like flash and openoffice,
is there anything in the main section of i386 that isn't in the main
section of AMD64?


openoffice.org IS free. The need for a chroot arises solely because it is
not (yet) completely 64-bit clean, which means that the 64 bit version is
not (yet) completely stable. Things are improving fast, though.


In other words, what are people having to use a chroot i386 for?


As you said, only for i386-only software, in my case mainly: openoffice (but
maybe I will give the 64-bit version a new spin shortly), flash, skype, some
commercial scientific software I need. Very few things indeed.

Bye
Giacomo

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Re:Gnome 2.16

2006-10-09 Thread Vitezslav Kotrla
> is it possible install gnome 2.16.(0|1) on debian via repository?

See http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-2.16-status.html,
most of packages reached experimental only, maybe you will want
to wait a bit till it gets to unstable.

Vit


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Re: LVM root?

2006-10-09 Thread Manuele Rampazzo
Ciao,

Albert Dengg disse:
> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 03:01:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> > Part.  mount  size
>> > ==
>> > 1  /boot  32 MB
>> > 5  /  200 MB
>> Merge them and maybe give it some extra space.
> i would not merge them since grub does not support lvm at the moment...

The example above was with / on a phisical partition... You _DON'T_ need
lvm support in grub if you _DON'T_ put / (with /boot inside it) on lvm.

Ciao,
Manuele

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Re: LVM root?

2006-10-09 Thread Albert Dengg
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On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 03:01:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > Part.  mount  size
> > ==
> > 1  /boot  32 MB
> > 5  /  200 MB
> 
> Merge them and maybe give it some extra space. When you collect a few
> different kernels the /lib/modules dir grows on you. A bit of
> breathing room saves you from having to clean up on every kernel
> upgrade.
i would not merge them since grub does not support lvm at the moment...
(there are rumours about lvm2 support in grub2 though i havent
tried/tested it

yours
albert

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