Debian AMD64 freeze !
Dear maintainers, somebody wrote about Debian AMD64 complete freeze. Yes, I can confirm this behaviour ! This is what I watched: During normal working, everything froze: mouse, keyboard, window, everything. Even, when I watched a movie, this happened twice. This behaviour is similar to BUG#379480. But what is more important: This behaviour is on my 32-bit-machine, too ! And both machines do have differnent hardware: 32-bit computer with AMD Athlon XP and Nvidia-Card, the 64-bit computer with AMD64 Turion and ATI-Card ! But both use kernel 2.6.18 ! On 32-bit the Debian-original-kernel, on 64-Bit a selfcompiled out of the Debian-sources. O.k., I tested RAM on both = o.k. I checked the logs, and I discovered this: Oct 28 19:45:29 protheus2 kernel: dbus-launch[2857]: segfault at rip 2ba3403ed590 rsp 7fff6aa4d188 error 4 Maybe this is the reason, although these messages appear on kernel 2.6.17, too. On 2.6.17 everything went fine. So, as both machines behave the same, I suppose a kernel problem. And last but not least, another hint: The machines do freeze everytime, whenever no one worked on it, so, when there were no keyboard or other input. I hope, my little desription will help to find the bug. Best regards Hans P.S. This mail is related to i386, too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian AMD64 freeze !
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:00:14 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: And last but not least, another hint: The machines do freeze everytime, whenever no one worked on it, so, when there were no keyboard or other input. Could you try opening your sshd server and try to connect to the frozen machine when that happens? It would rule out kernel problems and it would concentrate the problem on X. Do you use proprietary drivers? That might be another issue: try using only Xorg drivers. -- Best Regards, Jack Linux user #264449 Powered by Debian PPC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jabref with sun-java5-jre
Hi everybody, Are any of you successfully using Jabref (bibtex file editor) in AMD64? I had sun-java5-jre installed, and Jabref has this in its Depends: Depends: sun-java5-jre | j2re1.4 | j2re1.5 | sun-j2sdk1.5 Both of them installed without any problems, but when trying to run Jabref, I get: --cut here---start- Unable to create graphical interface. Importing in unknown format: Error opening file '' --cut here---end--- It seems to be a message from java, but googling for the first line of text, I get a meager 2 hits, none related to Debian or Jabref. I tried installing the package in my 32-bit chroot, and it runs fine from there, but I'd prefer to run in the main AMD64 system. Any clues welcome, and apologies if this is a bit off-topic. Cheers, -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jabref with sun-java5-jre
Seb wrote: Hi everybody, Are any of you successfully using Jabref (bibtex file editor) in AMD64? I had sun-java5-jre installed, and Jabref has this in its Depends: Depends: sun-java5-jre | j2re1.4 | j2re1.5 | sun-j2sdk1.5 Both of them installed without any problems, but when trying to run Jabref, I get: --cut here---start- Unable to create graphical interface. Importing in unknown format: Error opening file '' --cut here---end--- I run JabRef fine with 64-bit java (this one: ii sun-java5-jre1.5.0-08-1 Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0) using the .jar file downloaded from the site. Never tried with the Debian package. (I didn't even know there was a Debian package for it...) -- Signs of crime: screaming or cries for help. -- The Brown University Security Crime Prevention Pamphlet Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://move.to/hpkb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian AMD64 freeze !
I also experienced those freezes. I noticed it started when upgrading from nvidia's proprietary driver 8774 to 8776. I've switched to nv 3 days ago and the problem went away. Anyone else observed that? -Pascal On 10/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 08:33:41PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Dear maintainers, somebody wrote about Debian AMD64 complete freeze. Yes, I can confirm this behaviour ! Was it me? Details at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=379480 This is what I watched: During normal working, everything froze: mouse, keyboard, window, everything. Even, when I watched a movie, this happened twice. This behaviour is similar to BUG#379480. If it seems to be the same problem, it could help if details were sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've found the keyboard still works to a limited extent. If I have a text tntry window open at the moment of freeze, it continues to accept input. If it's an open shell window. I can even execute commands. But if anything happens to terminate input (such as hitting return on a URL entry window in a browser) the freeze becomes complete. I'm not sure whether it is still possible to ssh in from another system when it freezes. IN any case when it was possible, it was too slow to be usable (keypress echo in excess of 15 seconds, protocol delays enough to time out during initial connection) -- hendrik But what is more important: This behaviour is on my 32-bit-machine, too ! Fails on my AMD64 in 32-bit mode, too. And both machines do have differnent hardware: 32-bit computer with AMD Athlon XP and Nvidia-Card, the 64-bit computer with AMD64 Turion and ATI-Card ! My workaround has been to use Ubuntu dapper drake. But all the other systems on my network use Debian, so it's an anomaly. But both use kernel 2.6.18 ! On 32-bit the Debian-original-kernel, on 64-Bit a selfcompiled out of the Debian-sources. O.k., I tested RAM on both = o.k. I checked the logs, and I discovered this: Oct 28 19:45:29 protheus2 kernel: dbus-launch[2857]: segfault at rip 2ba3403ed590 rsp 7fff6aa4d188 error 4 Maybe this is the reason, although these messages appear on kernel 2.6.17, too. On 2.6.17 everything went fine. Fails on evry kernel I've used. So, as both machines behave the same, I suppose a kernel problem. And last but not least, another hint: The machines do freeze everytime, whenever no one worked on it, so, when there were no keyboard or other input. I don't recall ever getting a freeze when no one was using the machine (except as a file server). I hope, my little desription will help to find the bug. Best regards Hans P.S. This mail is related to i386, too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Homepage (http://organact.mine.nu) Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) École de technologie supérieure (http://www.etsmtl.ca)
Re: Debian AMD64 freeze !
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 04:37:12PM -0400, Pascal Giard wrote: I also experienced those freezes. I noticed it started when upgrading from nvidia's proprietary driver 8774 to 8776. I've switched to nv 3 days ago and the problem went away. Anyone else observed that? Bugger just upgraded to 8776-1, been up for 2 days no freezes yet -Pascal On 10/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 08:33:41PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Dear maintainers, somebody wrote about Debian AMD64 complete freeze. Yes, I can confirm this behaviour ! Was it me? Details at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=379480 This is what I watched: During normal working, everything froze: mouse, keyboard, window, everything. Even, when I watched a movie, this happened twice. This behaviour is similar to BUG#379480. If it seems to be the same problem, it could help if details were sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've found the keyboard still works to a limited extent. If I have a text tntry window open at the moment of freeze, it continues to accept input. If it's an open shell window. I can even execute commands. But if anything happens to terminate input (such as hitting return on a URL entry window in a browser) the freeze becomes complete. I'm not sure whether it is still possible to ssh in from another system when it freezes. IN any case when it was possible, it was too slow to be usable (keypress echo in excess of 15 seconds, protocol delays enough to time out during initial connection) -- hendrik But what is more important: This behaviour is on my 32-bit-machine, too ! Fails on my AMD64 in 32-bit mode, too. And both machines do have differnent hardware: 32-bit computer with AMD Athlon XP and Nvidia-Card, the 64-bit computer with AMD64 Turion and ATI-Card ! My workaround has been to use Ubuntu dapper drake. But all the other systems on my network use Debian, so it's an anomaly. But both use kernel 2.6.18 ! On 32-bit the Debian-original-kernel, on 64-Bit a selfcompiled out of the Debian-sources. O.k., I tested RAM on both = o.k. I checked the logs, and I discovered this: Oct 28 19:45:29 protheus2 kernel: dbus-launch[2857]: segfault at rip 2ba3403ed590 rsp 7fff6aa4d188 error 4 Maybe this is the reason, although these messages appear on kernel 2.6.17, too. On 2.6.17 everything went fine. Fails on evry kernel I've used. So, as both machines behave the same, I suppose a kernel problem. And last but not least, another hint: The machines do freeze everytime, whenever no one worked on it, so, when there were no keyboard or other input. I don't recall ever getting a freeze when no one was using the machine (except as a file server). I hope, my little desription will help to find the bug. Best regards Hans P.S. This mail is related to i386, too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Homepage (http://organact.mine.nu) Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) École de technologie supérieure (http://www.etsmtl.ca) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Jabref with sun-java5-jre
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:34:51 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I run JabRef fine with 64-bit java (this one: ii sun-java5-jre 1.5.0-08-1 Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0) using the .jar file downloaded from the site. Never tried with the Debian package. (I didn't even know there was a Debian package for it...) Checking the FAQ led me to do update-alternatives --config java and choosing the sun java version, as it was set to something else. This solved the issue. Cheers, -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install: choose kernel
On Saturday 28 October 2006 22:00, Douglas Tutty wrote: I'm at the point of choosing which kernel to install: linux-image-2.6-amd64-generic linux-image-2.6.17-2amd64 linux-image-2.6-amd64 There is absolutely no difference :-) In fact the only real kernel image package in that list is: linux-image-2.6.17-2amd64. the others are just meta packages that pull in that one. When in doubt, go with the default (and don't install in expert mode unless you really need to). Cheers, FJP pgpHleTc7SLMP.pgp Description: PGP signature
install: choose kernel
I'm in the midst of a new install on my new computer: Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 motherboard AMD Athlon 3800+ CPU Asus EN7300GT graphics card 1 GB ram 2 Seagate 7200 80 GB SATA drives in raid1 with lvm. Using the netinst.iso image via usb stick boot hd-media. I'm at the point of choosing which kernel to install: linux-image-2.6-amd64-generic linux-image-2.6.17-2amd64 linux-image-2.6-amd64 The installer doesn't give any hints other than showing the generic selected. It would be nice if there was some guidance but there isn't, so I'm asking here. What is the difference and what would you recommend? Thanks, Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian AMD64 freeze !
On 10/28/06, Alexander Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 04:37:12PM -0400, Pascal Giard wrote: I also experienced those freezes. I noticed it started when upgrading from nvidia's proprietary driver 8774 to 8776. [...] Bugger just upgraded to 8776-1, been up for 2 days no freezes yet hmmm... once I built the kernel module and installed it, it took about 2hrs before i got the first freeze... so it seems you won't have that problem. perhaps the problem only shows up in correlation with linux-image-2.6.18-1-amd64_2.6.18-3 ? btw, i filled a bugreport about my freezes...[1] -Pascal [1] http://bugs.debian.org/395818 -- Homepage (http://organact.mine.nu) Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) École de technologie supérieure (http://www.etsmtl.ca)
Re: dq965gf
Hi Dean,
give it a whirl, see what happens!
Ah... ok! I wouldn't resist it anyway. :)
But I will do it with a Fedora backup :P. Not that I like Fedora that
much... but I need to get the machine working...
if fedora and ubuntu are installing debian should be fine.
if a sarge disk wont boot, try a nightly net install disk.
Good hint. I'll try the latest CDs... maybe one of them already has the
2.6.18 kernel, reported to work with these boards.
Since its sort of new hardware, perhaps I should post a report
on my etch installation later? Do you know where should I post it?
Robson
Dean
Robson Francisco de Souza {S} wrote:
Hi,
I just bought an Intel DQ965GF board and was considering whether Etch
could be installed on it. I browse through the Net and all succefull
installations seem to be based either in Fedora Core 6 or, perhaps,
Ubuntu.
I think debian its much more interisting (and use it all the time), but
when this new machine arrives (1 week from now), I need to set it up and
running very fast so, is there any chance a Debian installation will
work?
The machine is a E6600 on an Intel DQ965GF board, 320GB Sata disk and
DVD/RW ATA drives.
Thanks,
Robson
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Re: dq965gf
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 08:11:06PM -0300, Robson Francisco de Souza {S} wrote:
Good hint. I'll try the latest CDs... maybe one of them already has the
2.6.18 kernel, reported to work with these boards.
Since its sort of new hardware, perhaps I should post a report
on my etch installation later? Do you know where should I post it?
Robson
See the installation report section of the installation manual.
www.debian.org, release info, testing, debian-installer page
installation guide.
choose the one for your arch in the format you wish.
You should read these pages and the manual anyway before trying the
install.
Doug.
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Re: Debian AMD64 freeze !
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 04:37:12PM -0400, Pascal Giard wrote: I also experienced those freezes. I noticed it started when upgrading from nvidia's proprietary driver 8774 to 8776. I've switched to nv 3 days ago and the problem went away. Anyone else observed that? I've tried nv, and even the framebuffer. No difference. Mind you, that was a while ago. I'll have to try again. -Pascal On 10/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 08:33:41PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Dear maintainers, somebody wrote about Debian AMD64 complete freeze. Yes, I can confirm this behaviour ! Was it me? Details at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=379480 This is what I watched: During normal working, everything froze: mouse, keyboard, window, everything. Even, when I watched a movie, this happened twice. This behaviour is similar to BUG#379480. If it seems to be the same problem, it could help if details were sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've found the keyboard still works to a limited extent. If I have a text tntry window open at the moment of freeze, it continues to accept input. If it's an open shell window. I can even execute commands. But if anything happens to terminate input (such as hitting return on a URL entry window in a browser) the freeze becomes complete. I'm not sure whether it is still possible to ssh in from another system when it freezes. IN any case when it was possible, it was too slow to be usable (keypress echo in excess of 15 seconds, protocol delays enough to time out during initial connection) -- hendrik But what is more important: This behaviour is on my 32-bit-machine, too ! Fails on my AMD64 in 32-bit mode, too. And both machines do have differnent hardware: 32-bit computer with AMD Athlon XP and Nvidia-Card, the 64-bit computer with AMD64 Turion and ATI-Card ! My workaround has been to use Ubuntu dapper drake. But all the other systems on my network use Debian, so it's an anomaly. But both use kernel 2.6.18 ! On 32-bit the Debian-original-kernel, on 64-Bit a selfcompiled out of the Debian-sources. O.k., I tested RAM on both = o.k. I checked the logs, and I discovered this: Oct 28 19:45:29 protheus2 kernel: dbus-launch[2857]: segfault at rip 2ba3403ed590 rsp 7fff6aa4d188 error 4 Maybe this is the reason, although these messages appear on kernel 2.6.17, too. On 2.6.17 everything went fine. Fails on evry kernel I've used. So, as both machines behave the same, I suppose a kernel problem. And last but not least, another hint: The machines do freeze everytime, whenever no one worked on it, so, when there were no keyboard or other input. I don't recall ever getting a freeze when no one was using the machine (except as a file server). I hope, my little desription will help to find the bug. Best regards Hans P.S. This mail is related to i386, too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Homepage (http://organact.mine.nu) Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) ?cole de technologie sup?rieure (http://www.etsmtl.ca) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian AMD64 freeze !
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 05:28:20PM -0400, Pascal Giard wrote: On 10/28/06, Alexander Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 04:37:12PM -0400, Pascal Giard wrote: I also experienced those freezes. I noticed it started when upgrading from nvidia's proprietary driver 8774 to 8776. [...] Bugger just upgraded to 8776-1, been up for 2 days no freezes yet hmmm... once I built the kernel module and installed it, it took about 2hrs before i got the first freeze... so it seems you won't have that problem. perhaps the problem only shows up in correlation with linux-image-2.6.18-1-amd64_2.6.18-3 ? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l 'linux-image-2.6.*' | grep ^ii ii linux-image-2.6.15-1-amd64-k8-smp 2.6.15-7 Linux kernel 2.6.15 image on AMD64 K8 SMP ma ii linux-image-2.6.16-1-amd64-k8-smp 2.6.16-12 Linux kernel 2.6.16 image on AMD64 K8 SMP ma ii linux-image-2.6.17-1-amd64-k8-smp 2.6.17-4 Linux kernel 2.6.17 image on AMD64 K8 SMP ma ii linux-image-2.6.18-1-amd642.6.18-3 Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64 btw, i filled a bugreport about my freezes...[1] -Pascal [1] http://bugs.debian.org/395818 -- Homepage (http://organact.mine.nu) Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org) École de technologie supérieure (http://www.etsmtl.ca) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
