Re: [ot] lacking public keys on debian servers

2007-03-15 Thread Tomasz Kaźmierczak
Hi.

Updating the keyring packages helped with the public keys.
Thanks!

Now I will try to fix the kernel...

Tomek


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Re: ETA amd-64 Java And Flash

2007-03-15 Thread Karl Schmidt

Jérôme Warnier wrote:


Well, some people would argue that Flash is hardly used for anything
else than stupid games and advertisement while Java is not.


Wish that was true in our experiance - we have to deal with many sites that are stupidly 
flash only!




But we tend to see everyday less Java applets (while Java is really used
on webapps containers, but this surely works for ages on AMD64).


If you buy things off the web - you will find that about 1/3 of the shopping carts require 
Java ...  Perhaps 1 in 10 require Flash - but what if it is the only place that has what you 
need?






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Re: [ot] lacking public keys on debian servers

2007-03-15 Thread Don Montgomery


Alex, thank you

On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Alex Samad wrote:

On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:59:58AM -0500, Don Montgomery wrote:


Tomek, in the past, I have seen some posts to this list
about how to update/fix keys as a discrete process.  For
my part, since I was already doing a fresh install, I just
did a wholesale reinstall (I keep /home on a separate
partition/disk).

Don


ii  debian-archive-keyring 2007.02.19 GnuPG archive keys of the Debian
archive
ii  debian-keyring 2005.05.28 GnuPG (and obsolete PGP) keys of
Debian Deve

I believe these 2 package are the ones that need updating





On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz Ka=BCmierczak ?= wrote:

U?ytkownik Don Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa?:

Tomek, I am not sure it is related, but I recently tried
to reinstall with a dated (January vintage) d-i image.
A lot failed, and subsequent apt-get often failed to find
previously available packages.  It turned out that the
previous year's public key had expired, and using a fresh
d-i image fixed it.

Don



So, if I understand right, I should update those keys manually?
But apt-key update does not update the keys (apt-get list says that I have
3
expired keys)

Tomek





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Re: ETA amd-64 Java And Flash

2007-03-15 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le mercredi 14 mars 2007 à 13:15 +1100, Hamish Moffatt a écrit :
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 08:22:33PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote:
> > Sadly, there are way to many sites that >require< flash and java is just 
> > unavoidable.
> 
> ? Java is more avoidable than flash, IME.
Well, some people would argue that Flash is hardly used for anything
else than stupid games and advertisement while Java is not.
But we tend to see everyday less Java applets (while Java is really used
on webapps containers, but this surely works for ages on AMD64).

> Hamish
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Re: [ot] lacking public keys on debian servers

2007-03-15 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:59:58AM -0500, Don Montgomery wrote:
> 
> Tomek, in the past, I have seen some posts to this list 
> about how to update/fix keys as a discrete process.  For 
> my part, since I was already doing a fresh install, I just 
> did a wholesale reinstall (I keep /home on a separate 
> partition/disk).
> 
> Don

ii  debian-archive-keyring 2007.02.19 GnuPG archive keys of the Debian
archive 
ii  debian-keyring 2005.05.28 GnuPG (and obsolete PGP) keys of
Debian Deve 
 
I believe these 2 package are the ones that need updating



> 
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz Ka=BCmierczak ?= wrote:
> >U?ytkownik Don Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa?:
> >>Tomek, I am not sure it is related, but I recently tried
> >>to reinstall with a dated (January vintage) d-i image.
> >>A lot failed, and subsequent apt-get often failed to find
> >>previously available packages.  It turned out that the
> >>previous year's public key had expired, and using a fresh
> >>d-i image fixed it.
> >>
> >>Don
> >>
> >
> >So, if I understand right, I should update those keys manually?
> >But apt-key update does not update the keys (apt-get list says that I have 
> >3
> >expired keys)
> >
> >Tomek
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [ot] lacking public keys on debian servers

2007-03-15 Thread Don Montgomery


Tomek, in the past, I have seen some posts to this list 
about how to update/fix keys as a discrete process.  For 
my part, since I was already doing a fresh install, I just 
did a wholesale reinstall (I keep /home on a separate 
partition/disk).


Don

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz Ka=BCmierczak ?= wrote:

U?ytkownik Don Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa?:

Tomek, I am not sure it is related, but I recently tried
to reinstall with a dated (January vintage) d-i image.
A lot failed, and subsequent apt-get often failed to find
previously available packages.  It turned out that the
previous year's public key had expired, and using a fresh
d-i image fixed it.

Don



So, if I understand right, I should update those keys manually?
But apt-key update does not update the keys (apt-get list says that I have 3
expired keys)

Tomek





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Re: kernel 2.6.18-4-amd64 hangs

2007-03-15 Thread dam
> "Constantine" == Constantine Kousoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> something wrong.  But what I suggest is that you insert the
>> install CD and boot the computer (without installing anything)
>> Then you go to a shell ctrl F2 and do the following #mkdir mnt
>> #mount /dev/hda3 #chroot /mnt #mount -a then you can use
>> dselect to install and repair what is needed. I recommend that
>> you reinstall the linux-image.
>> 
>> Hope it helps and be careful.
>> 
>> /Gudjon

Constantine> I followed Gudjon's advice and manualy removed
Constantine> package linux-image-2.6.18-4 via the 'apt-get remove
Constantine> linux-image-2.6.18-4' command and then reinstalled it
Constantine> via 'apt-get install linux-image-2.6.18-4'. The
Constantine> problem persists. :(

... if you are using grub, it can find the bootable images on the
partition for you, so if you still have a kernel in /boot that is
usable, grub will find it, and can use it to boot from.  You need to
enter command line mode when the grub prompt appears, and type root
(hd , then hit the tab key and it will list out the partitions and
disk choices.  then you pick a kernel, by typing kernel /boot
and press the tab key and it will list out all the kernel images it
finds in /boot, and you pick one... then do the same with the initrd
image, by typing initrd/boot/ini and pick the
corresponding initrd, and boot.  If you only had one kernel installed,
this might be a problem, and you have to do the boot from cd again.
I have a similar problem when I try to use a vga= command line
argument that the kernel can't handle, and it does not actually lock
 up, but does not display anything while it is booting.  you can fix
this in grub by getting rid of the vga= kernel option.  
Usually debian puts a failsafe boot entry into grub that boots single
user, have you tried that, or do you not have?  If none of these work,
install a different kernel using the aforementioned methods, and be
sure to not have a vga= line in your menu.lst for that kernel.  You
can install several and try them all, and their may be one more suited
to your particular cpu, as there is a linux-image-2.6-amd64-generic,
linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8, linux-image-2.6-em64t-p4-smp, -xen-amd64...
(in unstable, in stable and testing there are multiple choices also)

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Re: [ot] lacking public keys on debian servers

2007-03-15 Thread Tomasz Kaźmierczak
Użytkownik Don Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał:
>Tomek, I am not sure it is related, but I recently tried 
>to reinstall with a dated (January vintage) d-i image. 
>A lot failed, and subsequent apt-get often failed to find 
>previously available packages.  It turned out that the 
>previous year's public key had expired, and using a fresh 
>d-i image fixed it.
>
>Don
>

So, if I understand right, I should update those keys manually?
But apt-key update does not update the keys (apt-get list says that I have 3
expired keys)

Tomek


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Re: [ot] lacking public keys on debian servers

2007-03-15 Thread Don Montgomery


Tomek, I am not sure it is related, but I recently tried 
to reinstall with a dated (January vintage) d-i image. 
A lot failed, and subsequent apt-get often failed to find 
previously available packages.  It turned out that the 
previous year's public key had expired, and using a fresh 
d-i image fixed it.


Don

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz Ka=BCmierczak ?= wrote:


Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:10:57 +0100
From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Tomasz Ka=BCmierczak ?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org
Subject: [ot] lacking public keys on debian servers
Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:11:21 -0500 (CDT)
Resent-From: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org

Sorry for the off topic, but I've noticed something weird.

I wanted to install a new kernel on one of my debian systems. After
apt-get update
I got an error telling me that there are no public keys for security.debian.org 
and
for my local Debian repository (ftp.pl.debian.org). I've ignored it and 
installed
the new kernel but after reboot the system didn't boot up. I've tried the new 
and
the old kernel and the result was the same.
Now I know what was the problem - the automatically generated grub menu.lst
was incorrect, but before noticing that I've tried to update from several other
servers (not only Polish) and there always was the same error - no public key.

Is there something wrong with the repos?

Tomek





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Re: Re: kernel 2.6.18-4-amd64 hangs

2007-03-15 Thread Constantine Kousoulos

Hi
I had the same problem but I was quite sure I  had done something wrong. 
But what I suggest is that you insert the install CD and boot the computer 
(without installing anything)

Then you go to a shell ctrl F2 and do the following
#mkdir mnt
#mount /dev/hda3
#chroot /mnt
#mount -a
then you can use dselect to install and repair what is needed. I recommend 
that you reinstall the linux-image.


Hope it helps and be careful.

/Gudjon


I followed Gudjon's advice and manualy removed package 
linux-image-2.6.18-4 via the 'apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.18-4' 
command and then reinstalled it via 'apt-get install 
linux-image-2.6.18-4'. The problem persists. :(



Constantine


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[ot] lacking public keys on debian servers

2007-03-15 Thread Tomasz Kaźmierczak
Sorry for the off topic, but I've noticed something weird.

I wanted to install a new kernel on one of my debian systems. After
apt-get update
I got an error telling me that there are no public keys for security.debian.org 
and
for my local Debian repository (ftp.pl.debian.org). I've ignored it and 
installed
the new kernel but after reboot the system didn't boot up. I've tried the new 
and
the old kernel and the result was the same.
Now I know what was the problem - the automatically generated grub menu.lst
was incorrect, but before noticing that I've tried to update from several other
servers (not only Polish) and there always was the same error - no public key.

Is there something wrong with the repos?

Tomek


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