Re: Why does this happen ?

2007-06-26 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 11:01:05AM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 Oh sorry, I did not prezise my question corretly. I know that both conflict. 
 This is clear for me. What I want to know is, WHY such a conflict happens. 
 Why can (in my case) nexuis not access to libcurl4 and the other ones stay 
 access to libcurl3 ? This was my question, as IMO both libs seem independent 
 for me. 
 
 On the other hand I wondered, why apt does not inhibit the deinstallation of 
 the other programs or the installation of libcurl 4. Is it, because the 
 philosophy says, in linux everything is allowed to be done and controlled by 
 root ?  
 
 My question aimed less to the technical side, but to the philosophical side.
 

You want to install libcurl4 which conflicts with your installed
libcurl3.  Lets assume that they both contain identially named files
that would overwrite each other on installation.  They may not be
destined for eventual coexistance so that is not planned for in their
namespace.

So apt will remove libcurl3.

However, your packages A, B, and C depend on libcurl3 (which is now
removed).

So apt will remove A, B, and C.

Sounds like you're running unstable.  Things like this should never
happen in stable.  

The maintainers for A, B, and C can't update them to work with libcurl4
until its available.  So the timeline looks like this:

libcurl4 becomes available.

New package D needs libcurl4.

A, B, and C already exist and need libcurl3.

Maintainers for A, B, and C, start to transition their packages to use
the new libcurl4.  

Here's where you're at now.

Eventually, A, B, C, and D will all depend on libcurl4 and libcurl3 will
be obsolete.

So philosophically, one must be philosophical about problems when
running unstable.  

Doug.


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Re: [UWAGA SPAM] Re: debian on sun x4200

2007-06-26 Thread Bill Jones

PMFJI (I haven't read the whole thread) and since it has been 'years' since
I have run Debian on SUN please take what I write with caution.

Are the proper SUN disk labels still in effect?  The SUN version of a BIOS
will not bless a Hard Drive unless it has the proper disk labels.  We are
talking about Debian AMD64 on this [
http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/x4200/specs.xml ] X4200 system?

Is it the X4200 or the X4200 M2 -- I'm not sure if the AMD Opteron 2000
series chips are supported?

HTH/Bill


On 6/24/07, Maciej Jan Broniarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Does it load LILO/GRUB?
No, it doesn't

 Does it start loading the kernel? Which kernel
No.





 I am trying to install debian on Sun X4200 server.


Re: opteron 175: only one core recognized

2007-06-26 Thread Bill Jones

Unless I am mis-reading the AMD spec this chip is a 1-way:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8796_9240,00.html

The current kernels should work, but will likely show up as only 1 CPU.
Bill

On 6/25/07, Tom Vier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I tried to search the archives, but i got an internal server error from
lists.debian.org.

Looks like there's no seperate smp kernel anymore. 2.6.18-4 seems to
support
smp, but it doesn't recognize my dual core 175. I don't see any newer
kernels.

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 35
model name  : AMD Hammer Family processor - Model Unknown
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 2210.803
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 1
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm
3dnowext 3dnow up pni
bogomips: 4424.24
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp


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Re: opteron 175: only one core recognized

2007-06-26 Thread Tim Yang

2007/6/27, Bill Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Unless I am mis-reading the AMD spec this chip is a 1-way:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8796_9240,00.html

The current kernels should work, but will likely show up as only 1 CPU.
Bill




Well, from the AMD spec I think 1-way means you can only put 1 chip on
the motherboard, but it is still dual-core.

Tim


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