flashplayer on debian-amd64 (sid)

2008-12-13 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Dear maintainers,

I tested some flash plugins onm my amd64 system.

According to this, I found out, flashplugin-nonfree either from sid or 
experimental is not working. This is because it is using nspluginwrapper and 
the 32-bit version of flashplayer10.

I have found out a better solution. Two opportunities:

---
First solution:

1. install flashplugin-nonfree from sid.

2. download 64-bit alpha version of flashplayer from the Adobe site.

3. unpack the tar.gz and copy the file libplayerflash.so 
to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/


Second solution (the recommended one):

1. Do NOT install flashplugin-nonfree (as you do NOT need nspluginwrapper!)

2. download 64-bit alpaversion as above.

3. unpack the tar.gz and copy the file libplayerflash.so 
to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins  (so it will be found)

This works perfectly for me in Iceweasel and Opera. Konqueror seems to be able 
to use it, too, but it does somehwo interfere with other plugins (maybe 
gnash?). I still could not find out, why it is sometimes working and 
sometimes not.


I recommend and like to ask the package maintainers, to build the package 
flashplugin-nonfree in that way, that it:

1. downloads the 64-bit version of flashplayer

2. nspluginwrapper is no more installed.


Please try it out for yourself, it works perfectly for me.

Cheers

Hans
 
 
  


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Re: flashplayer on debian-amd64 (sid)

2008-12-13 Thread Ivan Marin
2008/12/13 Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de:
 Dear maintainers,

 I tested some flash plugins onm my amd64 system.

 According to this, I found out, flashplugin-nonfree either from sid or
 experimental is not working. This is because it is using nspluginwrapper and
 the 32-bit version of flashplayer10.

 I have found out a better solution. Two opportunities:

 ---
 First solution:
 1. install flashplugin-nonfree from sid.

 2. download 64-bit alpha version of flashplayer from the Adobe site.

 3. unpack the tar.gz and copy the file libplayerflash.so
 to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/


 Second solution (the recommended one):

 1. Do NOT install flashplugin-nonfree (as you do NOT need nspluginwrapper!)

 2. download 64-bit alpaversion as above.

 3. unpack the tar.gz and copy the file libplayerflash.so
 to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins  (so it will be found)

 This works perfectly for me in Iceweasel and Opera. Konqueror seems to be able
 to use it, too, but it does somehwo interfere with other plugins (maybe
 gnash?). I still could not find out, why it is sometimes working and
 sometimes not.


 I recommend and like to ask the package maintainers, to build the package
 flashplugin-nonfree in that way, that it:

 1. downloads the 64-bit version of flashplayer

 2. nspluginwrapper is no more installed.


 Please try it out for yourself, it works perfectly for me.

 Cheers

 Hans



Second solution worked like a charm, both iceweasel and opera. No luck
with konqueror. Anybody had luck to use java on a amd64 browser?


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Re: flashplayer on debian-amd64 (sid)

2008-12-13 Thread Matteo Vescovi
On 12/13/2008 01:33 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
[...]
 Second solution (the recommended one):
 
 1. Do NOT install flashplugin-nonfree (as you do NOT need nspluginwrapper!)
 
 2. download 64-bit alpaversion as above.
 
 3. unpack the tar.gz and copy the file libplayerflash.so 
 to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins  (so it will be found)
 
 This works perfectly for me in Iceweasel and Opera. Konqueror seems to be 
 able 
 to use it, too, but it does somehwo interfere with other plugins (maybe 
 gnash?). I still could not find out, why it is sometimes working and 
 sometimes not.
[...]

Right, second solution works here as well.
(just tried iceweasel, not the others)

HTH.

mfv


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Re: flashplayer on debian-amd64 (sid)

2008-12-13 Thread David Witbrodt


 Dear maintainers,
 
 I tested some flash plugins onm my amd64 system.
 
 According to this, I found out, flashplugin-nonfree either from sid or 
 experimental is not working. This is because it is using nspluginwrapper and 
 the 32-bit version of flashplayer10.
 
 I have found out a better solution. Two opportunities:

[snip]

  For those interested in a more Debianly-correct solution, I will share my
latest experience from yesterday, after trying to get the 64-bit Flash
plugin working using 'flashplugin-nonfree' from the experimental
repositories:

  First, I began having problems with Flash this Fall with the 1.7.x series
of 'flashplugin-nonfree'.  The maintainer of the package, Bart Martens,
realized that it was a violation of Debian policy for the installer scripts
to touch anything in the Debian alternatives system when installing the
plugin, and removed the script code that sets the 'flash-mozilla.so' link
in /etc/alternatives to auto mode if it (for any reason) gets set to
manual.
  When I installed versions of 'flashplugin-nonfree' in the 1.7.x series,
Flash was broken.  I was holding the package at 1.6.3 for a long time until
I found some time to do some reading on the bug tracking system -- where I
found out about the issue with the Debian alternatives system.
  Sure enough, something had set 'flash-mozilla.so' to manual on my
system, and updates of the Flash plugin in 1.7.x were not being recognized
after being installed because of that.  The alternatives system _was_
properly indicating that the newly-installed version was the preferred
version, but the manual status was keeping the links from being updated
to the new version.  (Current status can be checked by running
'update-alternatives --display flash-mozilla.so'.)
  The fix was to run 'update-alternatives --auto flash-mozilla.so'.  After
that, Flash was working fine for me again.

  Yesterday, I installed the experimental version of 'flashplugin-nonfree',
version 2 (actually 1:2, with the epoch prefixed) -- which uses the 64-bit
beta from Adobe's website, and has NO dependency on 'nspluginwrapper' -- to
see if it would work for me.
  After installing it, I had no Flash support at all... and the Iceweasel
Tools-Add-ons-Plugins menu confirmed that with no listing for Shockwave
Flash.  I had taken notes on my problems describe above during the Fall,
and re-read those notes.  After investigating the dates of 'libflashplayer.so'
in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree, I realized that
cruft was left behind on my system because not all of these files end up
getting tracked properly by the Debian packaging system when stuff from
Adobe gets installed in the filesystem.
  Furthermore, the alternatives link to 'flash-mozilla.so' was set to
manual again, but the alternatives system was correctly identifying the
new, version 2, Flash player as the preferred version.  Simply running

update-alternatives  --auto  flash-mozilla.so

was enough to allow Iceweasel to use the new Flash player, and it is
working great for me!

  This really needs to be documented somewhere -- nothing relevant appears
in /usr/share/doc/flashplugin-nonfree, though the changelog includes some
hints -- and I would argue that the debconf system could be used to ask
for user input if the 'flash-mozilla.so' link in the alternatives is set
to manual.  The sort of grief demonstrated by the post to which I am
responding could be lessened or avoided entirely with a little helpful
information!


Hope that helps someone,
Dave W.


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Java on amd64 (was: Re: flashplayer on debian-amd64 (sid))

2008-12-13 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

Ivan Marin wrote:
[ fullquote snipped. please quote sanely. thanks. ]
 Second solution worked like a charm, both iceweasel and opera. No luck
 with konqueror. Anybody had luck to use java on a amd64 browser?

Yes. icedtea6-plugin from experimental.
(You might need to fix the symlink/alternatives youself ]

Grüße/Regards,

René
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Re: flashplayer on debian-amd64 (sid)

2008-12-13 Thread Sam Varghese
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 01:33:26PM +0100 Hans-J. Ullrich said:
 Dear maintainers,
 
 I tested some flash plugins onm my amd64 system.
 
snip

The 64-bit alpha plugin from Adobe works on both IceWeasel and Epiphany
for me.

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