Re: AMD vs Intel in 2009
On 17.06.2009, Lennart Sorensen wrote: I don't care if it is AMD or intel, as long as it is a good design and gives me good value for the money. You probably should've read http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html The only way to boykott this is NOT to buy TXT enabled hardware and components, and this is just what you do when you buy the latest Intel CPUs/Mainboards... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: AMD vs Intel in 2009
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 06:06:41PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 17.06.2009, Lennart Sorensen wrote: I don't care if it is AMD or intel, as long as it is a good design and gives me good value for the money. You probably should've read http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html The only way to boykott this is NOT to buy TXT enabled hardware and components, and this is just what you do when you buy the latest Intel CPUs/Mainboards... Who the hell cares? Should this EVER come into actual use, AMD will add it too. Fortunately, it seems no one (other than possibly Mac OS X) uses this stuff for anything yet as far as I have been able to tell. Are you boycotting everything with HDCP support too? Good luck on that. If you don't like DRM stuff, then don't buy it. I don't buy songs from itunes with their DRM, nor blue ray disks. I put up with DVD since those play just fine on linux anyhow given the totally broken DRM they used. If everyone avoids DRM protected stuff (not the hardware that could be used to implement DRM), then sooner or later the media companies will clue in to the fact that stuff sells better when you don't assume the customer is a criminal. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: AMD vs Intel in 2009
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Lennart Sorensenlsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 06:06:41PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 17.06.2009, Lennart Sorensen wrote: I don't care if it is AMD or intel, as long as it is a good design and gives me good value for the money. You probably should've read http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html The only way to boykott this is NOT to buy TXT enabled hardware and components, and this is just what you do when you buy the latest Intel CPUs/Mainboards... Who the hell cares? Should this EVER come into actual use, AMD will add it too. Fortunately, it seems no one (other than possibly Mac OS X) uses this stuff for anything yet as far as I have been able to tell. Are you boycotting everything with HDCP support too? Good luck on that. If you don't like DRM stuff, then don't buy it. I don't buy songs from itunes with their DRM, nor blue ray disks. I put up with DVD since those play just fine on linux anyhow given the totally broken DRM they used. If everyone avoids DRM protected stuff (not the hardware that could be used to implement DRM), then sooner or later the media companies will clue in to the fact that stuff sells better when you don't assume the customer is a criminal. -- Len Sorensen Thank's This is information that really matter. This corporations are completed paranoiac !!! Hope one day we have a nice processor coming from outside of paranoiac corporations country's. Silvino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: AMD vs Intel in 2009
Heinz Diehl wrote: On 17.06.2009, Lennart Sorensen wrote: I don't care if it is AMD or intel, as long as it is a good design and gives me good value for the money. You probably should've read http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html The only way to boykott this is NOT to buy TXT enabled hardware and components, and this is just what you do when you buy the latest Intel CPUs/Mainboards... This is rather dis-informative - Linux could very well use this feature for positive security purposes. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 If you shake a politician's hand, be sure count your fingers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: AMD vs Intel in 2009
On 17.06.2009, Karl Schmidt wrote: This is rather dis-informative - Linux could very well use this feature for positive security purposes. This isn't disinformation, you can decide on your own. The op claimed that full Intel systems are not significantly cheaper than AMD ones, and that's just not real. An AMD mainboard is generally cheaper, and so is the CPU. The peripherals are priced the same on both worlds. What will be the ooverall result? In addition, you support TXT. AMD will follow? Fine, but they has not done so per today. http://lwn.net/Articles/333940/ (No, I'm not working for AMD or Intel...) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
