Re: ia32-apt-get and dependencies errors
Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de writes: So I guess the question is how to we organise to get it back into the repro's - the debian way ? I think, if people wish for it, then ftp-master should be asked to put it back again. However, I underrstand, it might cause trouble (as other packages might cause, too!), but this is the kind of experimental! or unstable, just as its name is expressing. Actuaky the Debian CTTE would be better as I asked them to review the matter. I probably wouldn't hurt to let them know you miss ia32-apt-get. :) I understand well, there are efforts to chose other ways, so ia32-apt-get should not block the other ways. Well, which one will win at last will show the future. IMO ia32-apt-get is a good way at the moment, and I think, even Goswin would not mourne if some day a better way will be found and ia32-apt- get will disappear. The future will show us. ia32-apt-get will disapear and was always ment to disapear with multiarch. I also always intended to make that transition as smooth as possible. The multiarch people fear that ia32-apt-get might conflict with multiarch, and currently they are right. The existing packages would conflicht with future multiarch packages. But to resolve that some of the multiarch features have to be added to dpkg first and then ia32-apt-get can be updated to use those features for a smooth upgrade. So from my side there is a solid plan in place how to do a smooth upgrade to multiarch. No blocks in sight. As far as i understood the policies of debian, there are rules to get a package into the official repository. If ia32-apt-get does not break those rules, I see no reason, why to put this software into the repository. All software is free, and every software should be handled even. True democracie Well, I suggest, to handle ia32-apt-get just as other software in debian. Another for way testing might be, to use an own repository, besides the debian official ones. IMO this is the worse way, because it might be worse to maintain (dependencies and so on). These are my thoughts about it, feel free to comment it. Cheers Hans P.S. As you may have remarked: I hate everything, which is deminuishing freedom! Sorry for that! MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ia32-apt-get and dependencies errors
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote: Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de writes: So I guess the question is how to we organise to get it back into the repro's - the debian way ? I think, if people wish for it, then ftp-master should be asked to put it back again. However, I underrstand, it might cause trouble (as other packages might cause, too!), but this is the kind of experimental! or unstable, just as its name is expressing. Actuaky the Debian CTTE would be better as I asked them to review the matter. I probably wouldn't hurt to let them know you miss ia32-apt-get. :) we miss ia32-apt-get I understand well, there are efforts to chose other ways, so ia32-apt-get should not block the other ways. Well, which one will win at last will show the future. IMO ia32-apt-get is a good way at the moment, and I think, even Goswin would not mourne if some day a better way will be found and ia32-apt- get will disappear. The future will show us. ia32-apt-get will disapear and was always ment to disapear with multiarch. I also always intended to make that transition as smooth as possible. The multiarch people fear that ia32-apt-get might conflict with multiarch, and currently they are right. The existing packages would conflicht with future multiarch packages. But to resolve that some of the multiarch features have to be added to dpkg first and then ia32-apt-get can be updated to use those features for a smooth upgrade. So from my side there is a solid plan in place how to do a smooth upgrade to multiarch. No blocks in sight. there are good news :-) As far as i understood the policies of debian, there are rules to get a package into the official repository. If ia32-apt-get does not break those rules, I see no reason, why to put this software into the repository. All software is free, and every software should be handled even. True democracie Well, I suggest, to handle ia32-apt-get just as other software in debian. Another for way testing might be, to use an own repository, besides the debian official ones. IMO this is the worse way, because it might be worse to maintain (dependencies and so on). These are my thoughts about it, feel free to comment it. Cheers Hans P.S. As you may have remarked: I hate everything, which is deminuishing freedom! Sorry for that! MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different selves that are actively involved in a given relationship. Carl Sagan (Contact) Jaime Ochoa Malagón Arquitecto de Soluciones Cel: +52 (55) 1021 0774 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ia32-apt-get and dependencies errors
Jaime Ochoa Malagón chp...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote: Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de writes: So I guess the question is how to we organise to get it back into the repro's - the debian way ? I think, if people wish for it, then ftp-master should be asked to put it back again. However, I underrstand, it might cause trouble (as other packages might cause, too!), but this is the kind of experimental! or unstable, just as its name is expressing. Actuaky the Debian CTTE would be better as I asked them to review the matter. I probably wouldn't hurt to let them know you miss ia32-apt-get. :) we miss ia32-apt-get The Debian CTTE reads on debian-c...@lists.debian.org. :) I understand well, there are efforts to chose other ways, so ia32-apt-get should not block the other ways. Well, which one will win at last will show the future. IMO ia32-apt-get is a good way at the moment, and I think, even Goswin would not mourne if some day a better way will be found and ia32-apt- get will disappear. The future will show us. ia32-apt-get will disapear and was always ment to disapear with multiarch. I also always intended to make that transition as smooth as possible. The multiarch people fear that ia32-apt-get might conflict with multiarch, and currently they are right. The existing packages would conflicht with future multiarch packages. But to resolve that some of the multiarch features have to be added to dpkg first and then ia32-apt-get can be updated to use those features for a smooth upgrade. So from my side there is a solid plan in place how to do a smooth upgrade to multiarch. No blocks in sight. there are good news :-) If ftp-master lets me. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ia32-apt-get and dependencies errors
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Jaime Ochoa Malagón chp...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote: Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de writes: I understand well, there are efforts to chose other ways, so ia32-apt-get should not block the other ways. Well, which one will win at last will show the future. IMO ia32-apt-get is a good way at the moment, and I think, even Goswin would not mourne if some day a better way will be found and ia32-apt- get will disappear. The future will show us. ia32-apt-get will disapear and was always ment to disapear with multiarch. I also always intended to make that transition as smooth as possible. The multiarch people fear that ia32-apt-get might conflict with multiarch, and currently they are right. The existing packages would conflicht with future multiarch packages. But to resolve that some of the multiarch features have to be added to dpkg first and then ia32-apt-get can be updated to use those features for a smooth upgrade. So from my side there is a solid plan in place how to do a smooth upgrade to multiarch. No blocks in sight. there are good news :-) If ftp-master lets me. I thought 'ia32-apt-get' was removed by accident, and you were merely waiting for a sponsor to get it added back. Was it actually removed intentionally? Dave W. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
