Re: kde4

2009-09-23 Thread Sam Varghese
On Thu, September 24, 2009 05:12, Karl Schmidt wrote:
> Anyone running KDE4?  Any AMD64 issues?

None at all. Running on testing for the last few months.

> Can it be loaded running lenny?

Not sure. I'm running testing.

> Is it stable enough to use now?

Is it ever!

> I want to load it up on a working system - don't want to make a mess of it
> if it is too soon - a
> couple of bugs here and there would be OK - as long as it is currently
> usable.

I use it on my workstation (AMD64 single-core) and laptop (ancient
Thinkpad). No issues at all.

> Is there any thing special to do to migrate from kde3 - to kde4?

This may be of interest:

http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kaboom.html

Sam



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Re: kde4

2009-09-23 Thread Robert Isaac
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Karl Schmidt  wrote:
> Anyone running KDE4?  Any AMD64 issues?
>
> Can it be loaded running lenny?

All of the backporting projects that I have seen stopped around 4.1.
You could probably backport it yourself if you have the time, or
remember to configure everything to install in /usr/local to save your
future upgrade path.


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Re: kde4

2009-09-23 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Ivan Marin  wrote:

>
>
> 2009/9/23 Karl Schmidt 
>
>> Anyone running KDE4?  Any AMD64 issues?
>>
>
> Running fine with Sid on amd64.
>
>
>>
>> Can it be loaded running lenny?
>>
>
lenny + depends


>
> Dunno.
>
>
>>
>> Is it stable enough to use now?
>>
>
> Very, very stable, both the environment and the applications, like Dolphin,
> Okular and company.
>

for months now...


>
>
>>
>> I want to load it up on a working system - don't want to make a mess of it
>> if it is too soon - a couple of bugs here and there would be OK - as long as
>> it is currently usable.
>>
>
> I'm using it on my workstation and laptop, on my production machines.
>
>
>>
>> Is there any thing special to do to migrate from kde3 - to kde4?
>>
>
> AFICT, there is a tool for the kde3 to kde4 migration.
>
>
>>
>>
>> 
>> Karl Schmidt  EMail k...@xtronics.com
>> Transtronics, Inc.  WEB http://xtronics.com
>> 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089
>> Lawrence, KS 66049  FAX (785) 841-0434
>>
>> I was seldom able to see an opportunity until it had ceased to be one. --
>> Mark Twain
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Re: kde4

2009-09-23 Thread Ivan Marin
2009/9/23 Karl Schmidt 

> Anyone running KDE4?  Any AMD64 issues?
>

Running fine with Sid on amd64.


>
> Can it be loaded running lenny?
>

Dunno.


>
> Is it stable enough to use now?
>

Very, very stable, both the environment and the applications, like Dolphin,
Okular and company.


>
> I want to load it up on a working system - don't want to make a mess of it
> if it is too soon - a couple of bugs here and there would be OK - as long as
> it is currently usable.
>

I'm using it on my workstation and laptop, on my production machines.


>
> Is there any thing special to do to migrate from kde3 - to kde4?
>

AFICT, there is a tool for the kde3 to kde4 migration.


>
>
> 
> Karl Schmidt  EMail k...@xtronics.com
> Transtronics, Inc.  WEB http://xtronics.com
> 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089
> Lawrence, KS 66049  FAX (785) 841-0434
>
> I was seldom able to see an opportunity until it had ceased to be one. --
> Mark Twain
>
>
> 
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kde4

2009-09-23 Thread Karl Schmidt

Anyone running KDE4?  Any AMD64 issues?

Can it be loaded running lenny?

Is it stable enough to use now?

I want to load it up on a working system - don't want to make a mess of it if it is too soon - a 
couple of bugs here and there would be OK - as long as it is currently usable.


Is there any thing special to do to migrate from kde3 - to kde4?


Karl Schmidt  EMail k...@xtronics.com
Transtronics, Inc.  WEB http://xtronics.com
3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089
Lawrence, KS 66049  FAX (785) 841-0434

I was seldom able to see an opportunity until it had ceased to be one. -- Mark 
Twain




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Re: googleearth

2009-09-23 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Mittwoch 23 September 2009 schrieb Michael:
> Weird enough, i was able to reanimate googleearth by installing
>  nvidia-glx-ia32, additional to nvidia-glx (in a debian legacy setup). The
>  window started up before but didn't draw the actual graphics, just a blank
>  screen.
> 
> Sad thing is that since few month, GE 4.2 doesn't run anymore, which had
>  the one-mouse-'copter' navigation mode (Ctrl-G), the most genial thing on
>  earth (since the linux kernel), and which they removed soon afterwards.
>  4.2. seems to miss libbase.so. and i guess it's just no more compatible,
>  finally.
> 

ia32-apt-get isn't no more active and no more in the repository (pity of 
that). Just install ia32-libs and build googleearth again. You will also need 
nvidia-glx-ia32.

Good luck!

Hans


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googleearth

2009-09-23 Thread Michael
Weird enough, i was able to reanimate googleearth by installing 
nvidia-glx-ia32, additional to nvidia-glx (in a debian legacy setup). The 
window started up before but didn't draw the actual graphics, just a blank 
screen.

Sad thing is that since few month, GE 4.2 doesn't run anymore, which had the 
one-mouse-'copter' navigation mode (Ctrl-G), the most genial thing on earth 
(since the linux kernel), and which they removed soon afterwards. 4.2. seems to 
miss libbase.so. and i guess it's just no more compatible, finally.


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Re: Updating system with ia32-apt-get

2009-09-23 Thread Michael
I can see that ia32-apt is a valid concept, and perhaps the first step toward 
real multiarch.
But left aside that i'm deliberately running Sid and used to screw the system 
since many years, let me speak on behalf of a desktop user. Then i just would 
expect more integration, namely: A converter (script) that installs all ia32 
libs in use (depending on the packages installed) automaticly and cares for the 
incompatibility somehow (for example by setting up global aliases ?), so that 
even synaptics would be fine.

The 'upgrade' is smooth when users aren't urged to figure out how they can get 
what they had before, again. It also should offer a way to turn back safely 
without manual re-configuration.
That's what i would expect from a 'package management'.
For example, the upgrade to grub2 is a good demonstration.

As you can see I'm not talking about the library packages in the first place. I 
believe todays' user i won't care too much if there are 50 M more or less 
installed.

Now when we're talking about a 'clean system' then tell me that a system with 
two incompatible administration tools is clean! And future major changes in 
'legacy' apt would probably mean another manual workload (as always with apps 
outside mainstream), including the time needed just to figure what's up.

That said, it's clear that Goswins packages are a step in the right direction. 
I actually wonder, Goswin, didn't you consider to engage in the apt upstream 
directly to work on multiarch ? Maybe they'd appreciate your help.






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