intel i3 processor

2010-07-19 Thread Siddharth Ravikumar
I am planning to build my own computer . I have choosen to use intel
i3 as my processor , I just want to know whether debian amd64 will be
the right debian port If am to use intel i3 ? .

i have not yet bought the processor , so I would like to know whether
32-bit processor or 64-bit processor is recommended given the fact
that I use only GNU/Linux based operating system .

Thanks for your help !

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Re: intel i3 processor

2010-07-19 Thread Christopher Browne
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Siddharth Ravikumar
rsiddharth.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am planning to build my own computer . I have choosen to use intel
 i3 as my processor , I just want to know whether debian amd64 will be
 the right debian port If am to use intel i3 ? .

 i have not yet bought the processor , so I would like to know whether
 32-bit processor or 64-bit processor is recommended given the fact
 that I use only GNU/Linux based operating system .

There's somewhat more software that runs on IA-32 than on x86_64.  The
sorts of things that people find missing on x86_64 are:

- Adobe Flash
- Possibly Skype
- Third party things provided in binary form (e.g. - no sources)

If you care about those sorts of applications a lot, then that should
certainly influence your decision, probably towards 32 bit.

If not, then there's still often not *strong* reason to prefer 64 bit
- it's not vastly superior on all kinds of workloads, though there are
considerable advantages for applications that can really use a lot of
memory.


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Re: intel i3 processor

2010-07-19 Thread Siddharth Ravikumar
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Christopher Browne cbbro...@gmail.com wrote:
 i have not yet bought the processor , so I would like to know whether
 32-bit processor or 64-bit processor is recommended given the fact
 that I use only GNU/Linux based operating system .

 There's somewhat more software that runs on IA-32 than on x86_64.  The
 sorts of things that people find missing on x86_64 are:

 - Adobe Flash
 - Possibly Skype
 - Third party things provided in binary form (e.g. - no sources)

 If you care about those sorts of applications a lot, then that should
 certainly influence your decision, probably towards 32 bit.

 If not, then there's still often not *strong* reason to prefer 64 bit
 - it's not vastly superior on all kinds of workloads, though there are
 considerable advantages for applications that can really use a lot of
 memory.
 I don't use Flash and Skpype. I need emacs and Java OpenJDK 6 , these
are the two most important things . If  they are already ported to
amd64 . Then its good news .


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Re: intel i3 processor

2010-07-19 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:28:57AM -0400, Christopher Browne wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Siddharth Ravikumar
 rsiddharth.m...@gmail.com wrote:
  I am planning to build my own computer . I have choosen to use intel
  i3 as my processor , I just want to know whether debian amd64 will be
  the right debian port If am to use intel i3 ? .
 
  i have not yet bought the processor , so I would like to know whether
  32-bit processor or 64-bit processor is recommended given the fact
  that I use only GNU/Linux based operating system .
 
 There's somewhat more software that runs on IA-32 than on x86_64.  The
 sorts of things that people find missing on x86_64 are:
 
 - Adobe Flash

Well at the moment 64bit flash is broken but it is possible to install
and use.  Flash on linux is in general rather bad though.

 - Possibly Skype
 - Third party things provided in binary form (e.g. - no sources)
 
 If you care about those sorts of applications a lot, then that should
 certainly influence your decision, probably towards 32 bit.
 
 If not, then there's still often not *strong* reason to prefer 64 bit
 - it's not vastly superior on all kinds of workloads, though there are
 considerable advantages for applications that can really use a lot of
 memory.

If you want to use more than 3GB ram efficiently, or get the most out
of your system, use 64bit.  For a bit less hassles, use 32bit.

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Re: intel i3 processor

2010-07-19 Thread Siddharth Ravikumar
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Lennart Sorensen
lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote:


 If you want to use more than 3GB ram efficiently, or get the most out
 of your system, use 64bit.  For a bit less hassles, use 32bit.

I am actually quiet happy with 32bit , but it looks like the future is
going to be 64bit. So if I build my comp this year , I will be using
it for the next 3 - 4 years or so . I am under a confusion whether to
go for 32bit or 64bit.

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Re: intel i3 processor

2010-07-19 Thread brian m. carlson
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:07:47PM +0530, Siddharth Ravikumar wrote:
  I don't use Flash and Skpype. I need emacs and Java OpenJDK 6 , these
 are the two most important things . If  they are already ported to
 amd64 . Then its good news .

Those work just fine on amd64.  I use OpenJDK 6 all the time, and while
I don't use emacs, I'm quite certain I'd have heard if it didn't work.

According to [0], all Core i3 models support the amd64 architecture
(which Intel calls Intel 64).  Personally, if you don't need proprietary
32-bit programs, I certainly encourage you to go with amd64: it can
provide small general speed improvements overall as well as very
significant ones in some applications.  32-bit programs can be run very
easily on an amd64 Debian system if they only use libraries installed by
the ia32-libs* packages.

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i3_microprocessors

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Re: intel i3 processor

2010-07-19 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:14:17PM +0530, Siddharth Ravikumar wrote:
 I am actually quiet happy with 32bit , but it looks like the future is
 going to be 64bit. So if I build my comp this year , I will be using
 it for the next 3 - 4 years or so . I am under a confusion whether to
 go for 32bit or 64bit.

Well personally I have 64bit on my laptop, my work desktop, and two out
of three desktops at home (one is an old athlon so it wasn't an option).

So I run 64bit if possible on the hardware.

If proprietary binaries are important to you, then you might want 32bit
instead.

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