raid metadata version - grub-pc 1.99-27+deb7u1 (grub2 wheezy)
Back in 2011-sep-29 There was a problem booting from a raid partition with raid mdam metadata version 1.2. There was a workaround - but I'm trying to update some documentation for wheezy. It looks like this has not been dealt with? At issue is working with modern drives that are now larger than 2TB that require a gpt partition. I think that currently this still is rather messy. ( Best work around - put your system on a pair of raided SSD using 0.90 metadata and boot off of these smaller drives - plant your large drive at /home Or where ever ). Does anyone know if this has changed? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://secure.transtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Socialism is just another form of stealing. Government takes, by the threat of force, what isn't rightfully theirs to take. kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/520d99fc.1040...@xtronics.com
Re: Wheezy: mcelog not getting notified of ECC errors anymore?
This is serious - I sure hope you wrote up a bug report? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://secure.transtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Truth is mighty and will prevail. There is nothing wrong with this, except that it ain't so. --Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51acef57.6010...@xtronics.com
Re: nvidia 9800 GT with nouveau on wheezy
Nvidia's refusal to be Linux friendly is well known and they leave messes behind - but back to my original question: does anyone use nouveau on later nvidia cards ? How well does it work? ( I've read that it supports dual heading ) .. I saw a few more kernel bugs for nouveau listed while I was debugging my wheezy upgrade.. My hunch is it is very close to being usable. If not - I will look into moving to AMD if I can find cards that support dual-head 1920 x 1200 res for each output.. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://secure.transtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Truth is mighty and will prevail. There is nothing wrong with this, except that it ain't so. --Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/517aae0c.30...@xtronics.com
Re: nvidia 9800 GT with nouveau on wheezy
On 04/24/2013 12:00 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Don't use the nvidia package from debian for googleearth. They do not work, as the 32-bit-libs of nvidia have dependency problems. Obviously no one cared for this at the moment. Just download the installer from the nvidia website and execute it - works like a charm! Not the issue - I want to transition to nouveau if it is workable - best to have a pure Debian system. It looks as if the nouveau have confidence as there is this: nvidia-installer-cleanup Which removes the system corrupting mess the proprietary installs. The debian way listed here is the best way to install the proprietary kernel modules. http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://secure.transtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Truth is mighty and will prevail. There is nothing wrong with this, except that it ain't so. --Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5177fda1.7070...@xtronics.com
nvidia 9800 GT with nouveau on wheezy
: [44406.928460] [drm] nouveau :09:00.0: c: core 555MHz shader 1350MHz memory 900MHz voltage 1000mV fanspeed 34% Apr 21 13:37:47 singapore kernel: [44409.011575] [TTM] Finalizing pool allocator Apr 21 13:37:47 singapore kernel: [44409.011581] [TTM] Finalizing DMA pool allocator Apr 21 13:37:47 singapore kernel: [44409.011750] [TTM] Zone kernel: Used memory at exit: 0 kiB Apr 21 13:37:47 singapore kernel: [44409.018049] nouveau: probe of :09:00.0 failed with error -16 Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://secure.transtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Truth is mighty and will prevail. There is nothing wrong with this, except that it ain't so. --Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5176ebb2.5060...@xtronics.com
Re: kde Desktop on wheezy - nvidiacard - production ready?
On 02/14/2013 10:47 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I do expect that these problems will be mostly sorted out by the time wheezy gets close to being stable. That is really the basic question - wheezy is close - down to 211 bugs http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ I'm wondering if I can jump the gun and move my desktop system to wheezy now? Or will I regret it? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://secure.transtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Don't cheat people; the government doesn't want the competition. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/511e5c26.8040...@xtronics.com
kde Desktop on wheezy - nvidiacard - production ready?
I am still using squeeze - I want to jump the gun and upgrade to wheezy - Most likely problems would have to do with nvidia. Is anyone running wheezy today? (down to 211 release critical bugs !! ) Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://secure.transtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Lawsuits are form of the game of chicken, played at speeds approaching $1000/hour. kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/511d66b0.5070...@xtronics.com
Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
I found a better way to get later versions of iceweasel http://mozilla.debian.net/ Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The worst thing about growing old is the point where you realize you scare small children. They are frightened and rightfully so; they don't want to grow old either. kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eefc090.2030...@xtronics.com
Need a html5 browser for squeeze
Not sure which way to approach this: backports does not have a more recent iceweasel. I could try to install from iceweasel 8.0 from unstable, but last time I did that it produced a big mess - wanting to bring in updated packages that would break other packages.. I could also try to install mozilla's Linux version. Wondered if anyone else has gone down this road? -- Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 What kind of society isn’t structured on greed? The problem of social organization is how to set up an arrangement under which greed will do the least harm; capitalism is that kind of a system. - Milton Freidman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee29cba.4080...@xtronics.com
Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
On 12/09/2011 10:14 PM, Jaime Ochoa Malagón wrote: Backports have iceweasel 8 Not finding it - do you have a link? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Reynolds’ Law: “Subsidizing the markers of status doesn’t produce the character traits that result in that status; it undermines them.” -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee2ee50.7000...@xtronics.com
Re: About gdm3
On 11/17/2011 04:41 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: That is just what I want (the method I used not to start gdm does not work with gdm3, of course). Could you provide the details/ Thanks a lot francesco gdm3 is just another daemon See: http://www.bergek.com/2009/02/22/control-debian-daemons/ the advantage of sysv-rc-conf is it runs from the command line. install the sysv-rc-conf - read the man page - run the command. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Karl Schmidtk...@xtronics.com wrote: On 11/16/2011 02:44 PM, Francesco Pietra wrote: Hello With my i386 wheezy desktop I had the surprise of gdm3 display manager, whereby now the X server is started automatically, without startx gnome-session. How should I manage not to have the same situation with one of my cpu-gpu servers? It is usually used for chemical computations from the console, while there is also a dormant X server to be used occasionally with a gpu-enabled graphic program. The X server has not to be started in order that the cpu-gpu calculation can be run. You can tell Debian not to start gdm3 ( or kdm etc..) via sysv. I use the sysv-rc-conf package to control what starts. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 A suit does not make one a man - nor does a degree make one educated. kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ec4ab2d.4050...@xtronics.com -- Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The lack of a middle class is a good indicator of how corrupt a government is. kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ec5680e.1080...@xtronics.com
Re: About gdm3
On 11/16/2011 02:44 PM, Francesco Pietra wrote: Hello With my i386 wheezy desktop I had the surprise of gdm3 display manager, whereby now the X server is started automatically, without startx gnome-session. How should I manage not to have the same situation with one of my cpu-gpu servers? It is usually used for chemical computations from the console, while there is also a dormant X server to be used occasionally with a gpu-enabled graphic program. The X server has not to be started in order that the cpu-gpu calculation can be run. You can tell Debian not to start gdm3 ( or kdm etc..) via sysv. I use the sysv-rc-conf package to control what starts. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 A suit does not make one a man - nor does a degree make one educated. kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ec4ab2d.4050...@xtronics.com
What groups does a desktop power-user need to belong to?
I've googled a bit and not found satisfying answers - hope someone here can help. What groups does a desktop power-user need to belong to? Many of the groups are only used by the system (example shadow, - some of the groups are obviously of use for a desktop user ( cdrom, dialout ). I have a list of these groups at: http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Debian_Linux#User_Groups_Permissions But I want to sort them for desktop users, sys only and sysadmin. Several groups would not be useful for any human user. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The government can print money - they can't print wealth. kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e3d6c86.2090...@xtronics.com
Re: Sound from a java applet running in iceweasel
On 12/07/2010 10:40 AM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 12:43:42AM -0600, Karl Schmidt wrote: Not sure how to fix this one. The possible source of the problem is iceweasel, alsa, java, amd64.. I can't find much other than other people saying it didn't work. Flash works fine - I understand it talks directly to alsa. I'm seeing that others are talking about using pulseaudio - I’m hesitant to start down yet another audio path. I've got no idea if pulseaudio replaces alsa or works with alsa. Here is a java sound test - can anyone get this to work via iceweasel/squeeze on amd64? Alsa is a sound driver, pulseaudio is not, so it certainly is no replacement for alsa. Best I can tell pulseaudio is a replacement for esd and/or artsd. I can't tell why I would want it or either of the other two on my system. Recently I couldn't get rhythmbox to play sound. Killing (and eventually uninstalling to prevent it restarting) pulseaudio fixed it. Good riddance. Interesting - Pulse audio seems to be being pushed as a new sound server There is this from wikipedia http://www.javasonics.com/support/check_play.html I'm not understanding the whole of the sound picture in the Linux world - I thought ALSA was the sound 'system' which included the server function? If it is only the driver part - providing a software interface to the sound hardware that clears up a bit. If ALSA is not a sound server what is alasmixer doing? But then what are esd and arts, jack? I wish I could find someplace that clearly defined the roles of these sound packages. It appears there is a lot of over lapping functionality. It is not clear if the sound servere or the application should be responsible for setting levels and routing sound to the correct hardware. In the mean time, it appears that java/iceweasel does not know how to talk to alsa or arts? Or am I wrong? Debian has embraced ALSA but how/when will a sane API for sound appear. Were you able to play that test clip? http://www.javasonics.com/support/check_play.html There are many remote radio tuners such as this http://194.29.11.10/ that provide java audio.. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The State is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else. -- Frederic Bastiat, French economist of the 19th Century -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cfe7104.6070...@xtronics.com
Sound from a java applet running in iceweasel
Not sure how to fix this one. The possible source of the problem is iceweasel, alsa, java, amd64.. I can't find much other than other people saying it didn't work. Flash works fine - I understand it talks directly to alsa. I'm seeing that others are talking about using pulseaudio - I’m hesitant to start down yet another audio path. I've got no idea if pulseaudio replaces alsa or works with alsa. Here is a java sound test - can anyone get this to work via iceweasel/squeeze on amd64? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Wishful thinking: Time wounds all heels. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cfdd79e.7050...@xtronics.com
64-bit nvidia beta flash
I installed and it seems to work well - you may have to uninstall nswrapper first. Anyone else played with it? http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 We can't tax and sue each other into prosperity. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd1a4e1.4020...@xtronics.com
Re: Changing from stable to testing.....
I did the upgrade from lenny to squeeze without any problems - if you read the wiki, you are supposed to upgrade apt dpkg and aptitude first - then the kernel - then distupgrade. It worked - but - there is always some cruft that accumulates - so if you have time, you might want to bkup your old etc and home - then move to a new install - migrating configs one at a time. Some of my cruft dated back to sarge... On the other hand - with a nvidia card and dual head monitors - kde4 is amazing - I think we just left windoze in the rear view mirror.. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Subtle recursive jokes in signatures are funny. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cc647aa.3010...@xtronics.com
Re: Changing from stable to testing.....
On 10/25/2010 09:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 09:10:09PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: I did the upgrade from lenny to squeeze without any problems - if you read the wiki, you are supposed to upgrade apt dpkg and aptitude first - then the kernel - then distupgrade. And was your system up and usable during pretty well the entire install? Except during the reboot for the new kernel, of course. I'm talking of network services, such as mail forwarding, NFS service, etc. I've done that with two production servers going from sarge to lenny on a Sunday night --- of course you have to restart services - a couple services were down for a few minutes while the con-figs were tweaked. On servers, the right way is to set DNS ttl very low a week ahead of the move. Then set up a new system and move one service at a time. - Draw up a plan and a list ahead of time - save it for next time. Desk top moves get more complicated.. If so, I'll probably copy the entire system (so I have a fallback just in case) and then upgrade as above. It worked - but - there is always some cruft that accumulates - so if you have time, you might want to bkup your old etc and home - then move to a new install - migrating configs one at a time. Some of my cruft dated back to sarge... On the other hand - with a nvidia card and dual head monitors - kde4 is amazing - I think we just left windoze in the rear view mirror.. Only one monitor, but I have nvidia on the motherboard. Looking forward to it. -- hendrik -- !!! INCLUDE ALL TEXT IN TECHNICAL SUPPORT EMAIL REPLIES!!! Please reply in plain-text mode Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The lawyer was about two bubbles off plumb. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cc649bb.3060...@xtronics.com
SDIO wifi support?
I was thinking of getting a card like this for my camera: http://www.amazon.com/Eye-Fi-Class-Wireless-Memory-EYE-FI-8PC/dp/B002UT42UI Having a hard time figuring out if there is support for these in squeeze? Has anyone been down this road? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 From NPR - National Propaganda Radio we get the following: One Side Considered or All Things Distorted -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c856da5.9060...@xtronics.com
Re: status of skype amd64
Lennart Sorensen wrote: Until some day skype decides to open their protocol and actually play nice with anyone else, rather than try to build a VoIP monopoly, it simply won't happen. I just tell people to not use skype. :) Everyone else uses SIP. Is there a provider that provides a SIP to land-line jump like skype but using SIP..? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 While understanding one's problems may be a good thing; it doesn't make them go away. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c26bdcf.9010...@xtronics.com
What is the state of testing?
Last time I did an install I ended up with having to pull mostly from unstable and enought things were broken that I ended up reinstalling lenny. Is anyone finding it usable as a desktop machine at this point? What is the state of KD4? ( the special backport went away last time..) Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Suits, fancy titles, and pajamas are all an incredible waste of time. --kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bc2933e.6090...@xtronics.com
kde4
Anyone running KDE4? Any AMD64 issues? Can it be loaded running lenny? Is it stable enough to use now? I want to load it up on a working system - don't want to make a mess of it if it is too soon - a couple of bugs here and there would be OK - as long as it is currently usable. Is there any thing special to do to migrate from kde3 - to kde4? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 I was seldom able to see an opportunity until it had ceased to be one. -- Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
U3 and other firmware USB thumbdrives
Last time I messed with this, there was only U3 - it appears that there are a bunch of different systems now. There was a U3 removal tool at that time - what is the situation today? Is there a particular brand that just provides storage and non of this garbage? I need to find a 32GB USB drive that I can dd copy with - without having troubles with some embedded firmware.. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Truth is mighty and will prevail. There is nothing wrong with this, except that it ain't so. --Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: AMD vs Intel in 2009
Heinz Diehl wrote: On 17.06.2009, Lennart Sorensen wrote: I don't care if it is AMD or intel, as long as it is a good design and gives me good value for the money. You probably should've read http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html The only way to boykott this is NOT to buy TXT enabled hardware and components, and this is just what you do when you buy the latest Intel CPUs/Mainboards... This is rather dis-informative - Linux could very well use this feature for positive security purposes. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 If you shake a politician's hand, be sure count your fingers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
AMD vs Intel in 2009
I'm looking at replacing a few boxes with some new Tyan boards - not too long ago AMD was pulling ahead - not so sure anymore. Like to get the take of some others here with wider experience than I have. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The lack of money is the root of all evil. -- Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: flashplayer in amd64 (the never ending story)
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 06:54:46PM +0100, Christian Hammers wrote: Hallo There's even a flashplayer-mozilla (version 10) package on www.debian-multimedia.org! It's using the the 32bit version together with nspluginwrapper but easy to install and working well. There appears to be some confusion here and misinformation -- The version in sid is 10.0.21.1 - AKA version 10. So there is no reason to gum up your system with non Debian installs. Works well with AMD64 - no need for any nswrapper etc... There is an issue - (that may have to do with attempted exploits?) that causes pluginreg.dat it get messed up and will cause flash to stop working. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Don't cheat people; the government doesn't want the competition. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: flashplayer on debian-amd64 (sid)
The problem I see is it works for a few days - but then if I want it to work again I have to stop iceweasel and : mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old and restart iceweasel - then the fun of reinstalling extensions etc... time passes It appears to be something in pluginreg.dat - if I delete everything past line 104 - things work again??? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Never put off till to-morrow what you can do day after to-morrow just as well. -- Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How to tell when a hardware RAID disk goes bad?
Not sure about the Adaptec 5805(looking at the data sheet I don't see anywhere that it claims to do data correction in hardware - AKA hardware-raid). Most raid controllers are really just multiple SATA interfaces and the RAID stuff is done in the driver software. Turns out that the mdadm tools work BETTER than the proprietary drivers (from all the tests I've seen) and the best option is to use the overpriced hardware as plain-old multiple disk interfaces and use the normal mdadm tools. (People used to Redmond software might not be able to resist making something simple more complicated than it need to be.) There are real hardware raid devices, but from a KISS prospective there is no reason to pay and deal with the headaches they bring with them. With the mdadm tools there is an option to start a monitoring daemon or you can look at /proc/mdstat I don't see much value in raid other than raid-1 (mirror) anymore with the huge, cheap drives available. There are times with RAID-0 (striping) is used for speed. What you may save in cost using raid-5 you end up spending in electricity and headaches today. What ever system you end up using, test and rebuild a few times (making sure you can boot no matter what drive goes down) and write down the needed steps to rebuild BEFORE putting it in any production use. See http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/raid-lvm.php http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Raid Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Assumption is the mother of mistakes. Buckaroo Banzai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: SATA CDROM/DVD fails to mount CDROM
This is still broken in 2.6.26-1-amd64 Karl Schmidt wrote: SATA CDROM/DVD fails to mount CDROM on machine with 4G of memory RE:http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2008/04/msg00339.html It isn't fixed in 2.6.25-2-amd64 I don't seem to be getting this into the right hands.. Can someone get me the email of the Debian maintainer of sata_nv? I'm not sure how else to report problems with modules - I would be glad to help test it. Robert Hancock wrote: Karl Schmidt wrote: Mounting CDROMS on a cdrom/dvd/-rw used to work. At first I had a plextor 712s and thought it had failed. I replaced it with an Optotrac and now a LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1L. (These are all SATA drives) Wonder what I need to back out of lenny to get it to work again? This was a known sata_nv problem with ATAPI devices and more than 4GB of RAM. It should be fixed in 2.6.25. It isn't fixed in 2.6.25-2-amd64 #1 SMP This was supposed to be a fix: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=293360 links: http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/11/6 http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2007-11/msg07780.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg14797.html There is a patch around #55 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351451 Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA CDROM/DVD fails to mount CDROM
SATA CDROM/DVD fails to mount CDROM on machine with 4G of memory RE:http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2008/04/msg00339.html It isn't fixed in 2.6.25-2-amd64 I don't seem to be getting this into the right hands.. Can someone get me the email of the Debian maintainer of sata_nv? I'm not sure how else to report problems with modules - I would be glad to help test it. Robert Hancock wrote: Karl Schmidt wrote: Mounting CDROMS on a cdrom/dvd/-rw used to work. At first I had a plextor 712s and thought it had failed. I replaced it with an Optotrac and now a LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1L. (These are all SATA drives) Wonder what I need to back out of lenny to get it to work again? This was a known sata_nv problem with ATAPI devices and more than 4GB of RAM. It should be fixed in 2.6.25. It isn't fixed in 2.6.25-2-amd64 #1 SMP This was supposed to be a fix: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=293360 links: http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/11/6 http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2007-11/msg07780.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg14797.html There is a patch around #55 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351451 Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Assumption is the mother of mistakes Buckaroo Banzai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA CDROM/DVD fails to mount CDROM
Robert Hancock wrote: I haven't seen any reports since 2.6.25. Are there updated details (dmesg output, etc) posted anywhere? 2.6.25-2-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Jul 14 11:05:23 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux mount cdrom0 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so From /var/log/syslog Jul 21 21:28:47 singapore kernel: [12910.116398] UDF-fs: No VRS found dmesg |grep ata2 [2.469173] ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1438 ctl 0x1430 bmdma 0x1418 irq 20 [3.619308] ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300) [3.799006] ata2.00: ATAPI: LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1L, BL05, max UDMA/100 [3.986485] ata2.00: configured for UDMA/100 [3.810292] ata2: DMA mask 0x, segment boundary 0x, hw segs 127 modinfo sata_nv filename: /lib/modules/2.6.25-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_nv.ko version:3.5 license:GPL description:low-level driver for NVIDIA nForce SATA controller author: NVIDIA srcversion: 001ED09BD96CB48E9879BF0 alias: pci:v10DEd03F7sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd03F6sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd03E7sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd037Fsv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd037Esv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd0267sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd0266sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd003Esv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd0036sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd0055sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd0054sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd00EEsv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd00E3sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v10DEd008Esv*sd*bc*sc*i* depends:libata vermagic: 2.6.25-2-amd64 SMP mod_unload parm: adma:Enable use of ADMA (Default: true) (bool) parm: swncq:Enable use of SWNCQ (Default: false) (bool) Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 It looks like both parties are now playing the tax Peter to buy Paul's vote game. This won't end well. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update to iceweasel 3.0~rc2-2
Karl Schmidt wrote: Not again.. - upgraded to Iceweasel 3.0 today - flash has stopped - anyone with a work around? ii flashplayer-mozilla 9.0.124.0-0.0 Macromedia Flash Player Not sure what fixed it - I moved .mozilla to .mozilla-old and then things worked. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Assumption is the mother of mistakes Buckaroo Banzai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Update to iceweasel 3.0~rc2-2
Not again.. - upgraded to Iceweasel 3.0 today - flash has stopped - anyone with a work around? ii flashplayer-mozilla 9.0.124.0-0.0 Macromedia Flash Player Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C.P.U. suggestions.
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:20:28PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: I had great success with JFS except that I switch away from it when told by the maintainer that IBM didn't recommend using it anymore. Could that be that they want you to use something they make that you have to pay for? IBM isn't supporting it, but it is supported by the kernel team - battle hardened and completely stable. I've had less trouble with jfs than ext3. No. The email is in the debian-user archives. It was in one of those which fs is best threads that come up from time to time. In the midst of that thread, I received a private email from the jfsutils maintainer who forwarded me an email he received from the one person IBM has remaining to support JFS in Linux. IBM has cut the team from a few full-time to one half-time assignment. It is IBM's official position that they don't recommend JFS on Linux for new projects. Note that the kernel team aren't the ones who have to maintain the tools, and its the tools that have to do the fscking. OK - IBM only has one person supporting a reliable, well tested, and quite mature file system - sounds Ok to me. (I don't really care what IBMs 'official' position is). It would be nice if IBM was advancing the jfs, but because it is GPL, it isn't that important if IBM supports it or not. In fact, looking at the names of the authors of the current package, it appears that many working on it are not from IBM. Again, some bean counter in IBM might see jfs as competition to products that they sell (they get money for jfs2) or you may be getting fud for some fan-boy of an other fs. There is no such thing as a 'best' fs - they all have trade offs. (see http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html) That being said, if stability is an issue, I've found jfs to be the best all around fs for Linux use - as of today. There are new FS that can out-preform jfs in specific tasks, but as my first pick fs I'm not interested in using a bleeding edge fs. The latest version of jfs 1.1.12 was released August 2007. The project is hosted at http://sourceforge.net/projects/jfs/ and is listed as Production/Stable - not as depreciated. It is actively supported to fix bugs dealing with new kernels. Someone on a mailing list dumping some fud on jfs does not make it a poor choice. There may come a day when the lack of active development leaves jfs a poor choice, as other fs become battle hardened and offer better all around performance (ext4?). I would also read between the lines of the FUD, and wonder if they have a reason to grind this particular ax? There are people that will profit (in $$ and other ways) if a particular fs catches on over others. Fine tune your BS filter. The only problem I had with JFS was what I have with all metadata-journal-only: I don't have a UPS and some files would go missing. ?? simply turn on autosave in your application.. or dig through /tmp (there are ways to preserve files there on start-up). Doug. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Life does not consist mainly, or even largely, of facts and happenings. It consists mainly of the storm of thought that is forever flowing through one's head.--Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which kernel will Lenny likely use when it is released?
Lennart Sorensen wrote: 2.6.25 is a stable kernel, just as 2.6.24 was and 2.6.26 will be. The old 'odd number development' stuff would have meant development would be in 2.7.x kernels, but that hasn't been used for years. OK, I understand I had the odd even part mixed up. But what I still don't understand is why 2.6.25 isn't in lenny yet if it is stable? I'm thinking of pulling in 2.6.25 from unstable, but don't want to create other problems. How can I find the ETA of 2.6.25 entering lenny? (I think some of lenny is already frozen - would that include the kernel?) I would think that they would fix the 2.6.24 4G bug if that is what they will release with? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 True wisdom is knowing what we don't know; True maturity is being comfortable with the idea of not knowing. -KPS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which kernel will Lenny likely use when it is released?
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:55:43PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: 2.6.18-3-amd64, 2.6.22-3-amd64, or 2.6.24-1-amd64 ? Well it currently has 2.6.24, so the first two are not an option. 2.6.25 is in sid, and likely to move to lenny soon. Certainly given the IDE troubles 2.6.24 caused for some people I doubt that one is going to be the choice for lenny either. So I would say it will be none of them. I have a system with 4G of ram that has the CDROM won't mount problem - I'm wondering if they will back port the fix to 2.6.24-1-amd64? Perhaps I should just move up to 2.6.25, but I don't want to introduce other problems. If I understand correctly, 2.6.25 is the working release and 2.6.26 would be the more likely to end up in Lenny? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Suits, fancy titles, and pajamas are all basicly a waste of time. --kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which kernel will Lenny likely use when it is released?
2.6.18-3-amd64, 2.6.22-3-amd64, or 2.6.24-1-amd64 ? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Experience is something I never get, until just after I need it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'apt-get dist-upgrade' tries to install unneeded packages
Corey Hickey wrote: I don't have anything non-default in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d. They made a change (a very bad change in my mind) that has it install recommended files and suggested files by default. To go back to the sane old way: Create a file called local in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d edit that file and put in the following: APT::Default-Release lenny; APT::Install-Recommends 0; APT::Install-Suggests 0; To further clarify this for the interested: Use wajig instead of apt-get to get a better user interface. to do a distupgrade with wajig : $ wajig distupgrade If you want to install a package $ wajig install package-name if you want to install more than just the package change install to one of these: installr Install package and associated recommended packages installrs Install package and recommended and suggested packages installs Install package and associated suggested packages One effect of this change is that it will bog down the servers updating files that are never used. If you don't know about this setting you will fill your disk with crud. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Assumption is the mother of mistakes Buckaroo Banzai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How will ATI firmware work?
If I understand correctly, there will still be a firmware blob for ATI cards to support the advanced features. Is this going to be something that will go in lib/firmware or will we still have to build drivers out of fglrx-kernel-src? What should we expect the state to be when lenny ships (Sept-08++)? I would now recommending ATI cards (r300 boards) for any Linux users as it appears ATI is really supporting linux - not just as a after thought anymore. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 A patent provides one a license to enrich his lawyer. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop advice
How to assess cheapness? I saw that prices span quite a large range... Everyone here seems to agree that a ThinkPad is nice but expensive. So what does one get for the higher price (with respect to other laptops)? Cheap computers are VERY expensive, if your time is worth anything. Figure the time needed to debug 'fleeting hardware failures' and find out there isn't support for buggy components that were discontinued. Poorly designed components that are bought by the integrators at firesafe prices are part of what make cheap computers cheap. Some of these components have such poorly written specifications that it is almost impossible to write good drivers for them - the provided drivers may have enough bugs in them that they never get widely adopted and the chipset or component gets 'dumped' into 'discounted' computers. If you have more-time-than-money, it might make sense to buy a cheap computer and spend your time debugging low level drivers - but if you can do that, you probably have more-money-than-time anyway. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 When everything is coming my way, I'm probably in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SATA CDROM/DVD fails to mount CDROM
Mounting CDROMS on a cdrom/dvd/-rw used to work. At first I had a plextor 712s and thought it had failed. I replaced it with an Optotrac and now a LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1L. (These are all SATA drives) Wonder what I need to back out of lenny to get it to work again? mount cdrom0 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error sys log says: kernel: ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format. hwinfo --cdrom 32: SCSI 100.0: 10602 CD-ROM (DVD) [Created at block.226] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVDRW_LH_20A1L Unique ID: twPO.PfW+8P_EJX0 Parent ID: M71A.0jUf1W6dPcD SysFS ID: /block/sr0 SysFS BusID: 1:0:0:0 SysFS Device Link: /devices/pci:00/:00:07.0/host1/target1:0:0/1:0:0:0 Hardware Class: cdrom Model: LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1L Vendor: LITE-ON Device: DVDRW LH-20A1L Revision: BL05 Driver: sata_nv, sr Driver Modules: sata_nv Device File: /dev/sr0 (/dev/sg2) Device Files: /dev/sr0, /dev/scd0, /dev/disk/by-path/pci-:00:07.0-scsi-1:0:0:0, /dev/disk/by-path/pci-:00:07.0-scsi-1:0:0:0-part0, /dev/cdrom1, /dev/cdrw1, /dev/dvd1, /dev/dvdrw1 Device Number: block 11:0 (char 21:2) Features: CD-R, CD-RW, DVD, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+DL, DVDRAM Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #20 (IDE interface) Drive Speed: 48 grep scd0 /etc/fstab /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,auto 0 0 dmesg |grep ata2 ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1438 ctl 0x1430 bmdma 0x1418 irq 20 ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300) ata2.00: ATAPI: LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1L, BL05, max UDMA/100 ata2.00: configured for UDMA/100 ata2: bounce limit 0x, segment boundary 0x, hw segs 127 # uname -a Linux singapore 2.6.24-1-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Apr 18 23:08:22 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux (I tried going back to 2.6.22) Is this it? http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/11/6 Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Time wounds all heels. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-* vs aptitude vs synaptic
One other tool you might consider is wajig that includes the gui front-end gjig. Apt has finally started doing logging, but have found wajig's logging to be more useful - and a log you might not want to delete except when moving between releases. The wajig log has saved me a lot of time in figuring out what update broke something. If you need to do work via the command line, wajig is intuitive and MUCH easier to learn than memorizing all the apt and dpkg switches. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Subtle recursive jokes in signatures are funny. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
This was on a Tyan S2875 - I just upgraded the BIOS to see if it fixes it. Only happens once a week to once a month. Tyan hasn't been exactly helpful... (But, I have had great luck using their motherboards). Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there - Will Rogers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: java - icedtea Amd64 lenny solution
For the record, this seems to work without a chroot on Lenny. Java installed (1.7.0). I have written up some of the different ways of adding java here: http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Java_install#Java_on_Debian Feel free to add others methods in their own section. I also have flash working without a chroot uses nswrapper by grabbing flashplugin-nonfree out of sid - seems a bit buggy - have to restart the browser now and again. I tried to send in a request to package icedtea - seems to not be listed though?? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The lawyer was about two bubbles off plumb. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
java - icedtea Amd64 lenny solution
Anyone have icedtea working as a java solution? I've thought of entering a request to package bug on it.. Java and Flash on AMD64 still is a mess - Ubuntu is fixing it - should port back to Debian easily. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 There's many a bestseller that could have been prevented by a good teacher. --Flannery O'Connor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kompozer
It appears that kompozer is available as a deb - but http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=406553 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php I was able to load the ubuntu AMD64 package on lenny - should be an easy port to Debian. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 We can't sue and tax each other into prosperity. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
Apr 10 10:54:02 poland kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40) I see this every once in a while - no problems with the server and others on the web see it only on amd64. Any kernel gurus know exactly what this means? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 If you shake a politician's hand, be sure count your fingers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sun java news
According to a post on April/9/2008 at http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4802695 We have not only commit this RFE to JRE 7, but also JRE 6 update release. The date for JRE 6 update release which has this 64bit JRE support will be early 2009. Posted Date : 2008-04-09 16:57:04.0 Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Happiness is a Swedish sunset; it is there for all, but most of us look the other way and lose it.--Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: java - icedtea Amd64 lenny solution
Jaime Ochoa Malagón wrote: I have this, really very low use but that works... What did you do to make it work? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter. -- Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 64-bit and chroot
Does anyone here have an inside ear with Adobe and/or SUN? I think they at least owe us an answer as to IF and WHEN for AMD64 code will be available. If they aren't going to do it, it might help motivate the OSS solutions to fill the void. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Give me four parameters and I can fit an elephant; Give me five and I can wag its tail. (The source of the above quote?? Variants have been attributed to C.F. Gauss, Niels Bohr, Lord Kelvin, Enrico Fermi.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kompozer
Has anyone built a deb for kompozer that works on AMD64? (Hard to understand why this package hasn't made it into Debian (it is a for fork for the abandoned nvu project). Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia
Stephen Cormier wrote: It is definitely the problem you won't get it to install unless you rebuild the package source Which package source? please email me the corrected package - what ever it is (BTW there are ways to force installation - wouldn't that work?) having modified it so that it will install with the X version being 2:1.3 I have: wajig list xorg ii xorg1:7.2-5 X.Org X Window System ii xserver-xorg1:7.2-5 the X.Org X server ii xserver-xorg-core 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12 X.Org X server -- core server I think you are referring to the version of xserver-xorg-core ? as I mentioned in my first mail and yes you need the -glx package installed as well. If you do not want to rebuild the packages as I mentioned in my previous mail I have them here and can send them to you so you can get it installed. Please send me the packages you think I need. (Thanks in advance!) You would only need to remove the currently installed ones install the source .deb I send you build/install the binary module then install the -glx and you are good to go. Stephen Did you send the patch to the package maintainer? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Misdirection is the key to being a good magician. Magicians tell you they are doing something while they do something quite different; much like politicians -- except we can afford magicians. -KPS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia
Stephen Cormier wrote: I have the packages for those still laying around as well so if you want you can try both if your email address will accept attachments of around 5mb for the largest of the files. Stephen I made the module with out any problem with m-a. I seem to have all the same versions except for nvidia-glx wajig list nvidia ii nvidia-glx1.0.8776-4 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver ii nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-3-amd64 1.0.8776-4+2.6.18-7 NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18 ii nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-3-amd64 169.07-2+2.6.22-6 NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.22 ii nvidia-kernel-common 20051028+1-0.1 NVIDIA binary kernel module common files ii nvidia-kernel-source 169.07-2NVIDIA binary kernel module source ii nvidia-settings 1.0+20060516-3 Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driv ii nvidia-xconfig1.0+20070502-1 The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool I now think nvidia-glx is the problem: The following packages have unmet dependencies: nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-169.07 but it is not installable Depends: xserver-xorg-core (= 2:1.4) but 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12 is to be installed How did you get nvidia-glx to install (or can I turn it off?) Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi ! To get the newest NVidia-packages installed and built, you can follow these steps: 1. delete all /usr/src/modules/nv* 2. delete /usr/src/nvidia-source*.tgz 3. delete all formerly built packages (i.e. nvidia-kernel-bla***.deb) 4. deinstall nvidia-source and reinstall the new nvidia-source 5. start module-assistant and choose nvidia-kernel and let it build and install 6. apt-get update, apt-get upgrade let you now install the newest package nvidia-glx 7. update all xserver-xorg* packages. 8. Have fun ! The latest version (167.07) is running stable ! Good luck ! Hans-J. Ullrich That didn't work for me - I got every thing compiled and installed - verified that the nvidia driver was loaded, but xorg could not see it and errors out. I think it is a version thing - or something to do with AMD64. If someone has this working under lenny and could list the following: * kernel version running * versions of all the nvidia packages * version of xorg This way I'm comparing apples to apples. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Cry a river, build a bridge, get over it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia
Stephen Cormier wrote: HappyTux:/# uname -r 2.6.23 This seems to be where I have lost the trail. I have: # uname -a Linux singapore 2.6.22-3-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Nov 4 18:18:09 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux And; I don't see a 2.6.23 kernel to install? Where did you get it? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 If man's brain was simple enough for us to understand, we would be too simple to understand it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia
I think I shouldn't have updated to lenny -- I can't get nvidia working and I need it for a dual head setup (I don't think the nv driver can do this). Not sure which way to go from here: * Use the nvidia supplied drivers? (I've never done this) * Is there a way to use the etch drivers? * Get Some other card that has an open driver that supports dual head display? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 If man's brain was simple enough for us to understand, we would be too simple to understand it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Java and flash lenny amd64
I want to upgrade my system to AMD64 lenny, but after reading this list several times it is not clear what has to happen to get java and flash working with iceweasel on lenny (amd64). Is it even possible? I think the it hinges around nspluginswrapper and if I read correctly that package is not available for lenny? --Java I've also read where sun changed their java license so it can be part of Debian - is this so and what is the package name? If not, what is the workaround for lenny? Is this written up anywhere? --Flash I don't want to be told not to use it (I don't want to but have to). Is there a working step-by-step to get flash working with iceweasel? If it isn't written up anywhere, can folks help me write it up here: http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Iceweasel Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Never let school interfere with your education. - Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: chroot: java fails
I'm hoping to get Flash and Java working with iceweasel on AMD64. The bits and notes I see are not all the same and confusing. I've set up a wiki page http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Iceweasel to put step by step information and I'm hoping someone here can fill out a full procedure so there is a place to point others as well as myself. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it. --Flannery O'Connor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lenny amd64 for Desktop
Like to get some feedback from anyone running lenny on amd64. Is it workable? I'm currently running etch as a desk top - how well is lenny doing? Is there any estimate when it will be released? Guestimates? Any reasons not to upgrade? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 What happens if one get scared half to death twice? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia
Adam Stiles wrote: Best course of action: stick to Intel graphics, or use the free nv driver. It is my understanding that the ATI (now part of AMD) cards were going to be totally open? http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3108 Thank you AMD - I sure hope our driver people take the challenge and make the best driver available! So, I think it will be a choice between Intel and ATI - not sure which is more open. For applications that don't need 3D like most desktop stuff, I read somewhere that ATI out performs Nvidia. BTW, Intel has also better about making information available than they get credit for. I think the day is rapidly approaching where they can no longer ignore the OSS community. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 A patent provides one a license to enrich his lawyer. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Swiftfox as a flash workaround
I had been using swiftfox as a flash workaround - until an upgrade killed it. There is a work-around that gets it going again. http://forums.getswiftfox.com/viewtopic.php?t=271sid=be4f8b0098d76fb5c39fd623605d187d But - I really don't like using swiftfox - not really OSS... Does anyone here know if there will be a AMD64 flash out anytime soon so we can put an end to these mickymouse work arounds? There must be a timetable somewhere. Or they may decided not to - either way I sure wish I knew. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 When faced with the reality that he would have to start working a real job for a living, the politician became about a quarter turn past hand tight. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intel vs AMD support of linux developers.
I've been using AMD processors on my last few systems, but I talked to a friend of mine that does hardware work. His take is that Intel is more open about the hardware specifications than most anyone in the business including AMD and thus supports Linux developers better. If this is true, I might go back to using Intel on Tyan MBs Can anyone with firsthand (or at least close secondhand) knowledge comment on this? I really want to support those that support Linux. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Searchin for a package
Andrew Sharp wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 08:47:16AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 10:57:03AM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: I am am looking for the package, which is containing these two files: /etc/auto.master /etc/auto.misc autofs First install wajig apt-get install wajig Then wajig whichpkg /etc/auto.master Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 We can't sue and tax each other into prosperity. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 (laptop) system
Instead of Dell, you might consider someone like LAC http://laclinux.com They sell nothing but Linux installed on computers _AND_ they will pre-install the real Debian! I haven't bought from them, but plan to. Geary there did help me for free with a AMD kernel issue a few years ago. While I have several AMD servers, I would not let that control what you get for a lap-top. As someone that does hardware level work, I can testify that Intel is a lot more Linux friendly than they get credit for - they make a lot (not all) of their hardware data sheets available so drivers are easy to write. While not ideal, they have firmware drivers for wifi that just drop into place ( /lib/firmwwear). The thinkpad I set up for Linux went smoother than any other laptop. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 When faced with the reality that he would have to start working a real job for a living, the politician became about a quarter turn past hand tight. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ETA amd-64 Java And Flash
Matthias Julius wrote: Are you sure they require Jave - not JavaScript? Most linux folks will install them at the same time - should have said javascript. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ETA amd-64 Java And Flash
Sadly, there are way to many sites that require flash and java is just unavoidable. swiftfox works as a workaround for now - but the older java causes problems on some sites and swiftfox has unpatched security holes -- so I was wondering if there is any scuttlebutt about when AMD64 Java and flash will arrive? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 It looks like both parties are now playing the tax Peter to buy Paul's vote game. This won't end well. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD64 show stoppers
Freddie Cash wrote: On Tuesday 16 January 2007 05:42 pm, Karl Schmidt wrote: Add your show stopper to this thread... First on the list is the java browser pluging - the black down java sort-of-works(tm) (not a Debian package) What's wrong with using the sun-java5-jre package that is in Etch? It doesn't have the browser plugin. -- !!! INCLUDE ALL TEXT IN TECHNICAL SUPPORT EMAIL REPLIES!!! !!!Send in plain-text mode - mail with attached GIFs will be rejected !!! Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Misdirection is the key to being a good magician. Magicians tell you they are doing something while they do something quite different; much like politicians -- except we can afford magicians. -KPS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: system_crash.
CHRIS WAKEFIELD wrote: Greetings all. Had my machine (amdx2) up and running for about 70 days (2.6.16-16), came home today to a frozen kde. Rebooted and grub would _NO_ partitions! ...15 or twenty different kernels between 2 drives. Checked, and they're all there just fine, so I'm reinstalling I rememeber a few months ago trying to boot with a freshly compiled kernel and having the boot freeze umptine times at the scheduler initialization (?) tried many different kernel configs, gave up and stuck with the only kernel that'll boot my new machine - 2.6.16-16. Seems the latest 'debian-testing-amd64-netinst' doesn't use this kernel. My original image from an install of a year ago stops installing at 'tzdata' (tried 6 times now). So I'm stuck between a rock and windows here. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Chris W. What file system were you using? ext3? -- !!! INCLUDE ALL TEXT IN TECHNICAL SUPPORT EMAIL REPLIES!!! !!!Send in plain-text mode - mail with attached GIFs will be rejected !!! Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Misdirection is the key to being a good magician. Magicians tell you they are doing something while they do something quite different; much like politicians -- except we can afford magicians. -KPS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AMD64 show stoppers
Add your show stopper to this thread... First on the list is the java browser pluging - the black down java sort-of-works(tm) (not a Debian package) Next is flash - you can sort of workaround it by using switftfox (comes with bugs)(not a Debian package) But the biggest problem for me is that there isn't a AMD64 nvu package. The author abandoned it to work on a replacement package, but in the mean time there isn't a good WYSIWYG html editor for web development. (Sorry, but quanta just isn't in the same league and OO makes bloat-code out of clean html). IMHO etch as a amd64 server is fine - but the Desktop has holes -- !!! INCLUDE ALL TEXT IN TECHNICAL SUPPORT EMAIL REPLIES!!! !!!Send in plain-text mode - mail with attached GIFs will be rejected !!! Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Misdirection is the key to being a good magician. Magicians tell you they are doing something while they do something quite different; much like politicians -- except we can afford magicians. -KPS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
java how to
Add the following to sources.list : #blackdown java deb http://www.tux.org/pub/packages/java/debian/ etch non-free install the keys wget http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/java2-status/gpg.asc | apt-key add Now install wajig (wajig is a sane and unified command line interface for dpkg and apt) apt-get install wajig wajig update wajig install j2re1.4 j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin -- !!! INCLUDE ALL TEXT IN TECHNICAL SUPPORT EMAIL REPLIES!!! !!!Send in plain-text mode - mail with attached GIFs will be rejected !!! Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Misdirection is the key to being a good magician. Magicians tell you they are doing something while they do something quite different; much like politicians -- except we can afford magicians. -KPS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tyan S2877 Plextor PX-755SA
I went from AMD64-K8-SMP sarge to etch and now it no longer sees this SATA plextor DVD drive. #cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: ATA Model: HDT722525DLA380 Rev: V44O Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 05 Host: scsi4 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: ATA Model: HDT722525DLA380 Rev: V44O Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 05 Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: Generic Model: USB SD ReaderRev: 1.00 Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 01 Vendor: Generic Model: USB CF ReaderRev: 1.01 Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 02 Vendor: Generic Model: USB SM ReaderRev: 1.02 Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 03 Vendor: Generic Model: USB MS ReaderRev: 1.03 Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 -- this shows the two hard drives and the USB card reader - but the drive is not listed? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The film has fogged in my photographic memory. Bootdata ok (command line is root=/dev/md0 ro BOOT_DEBUG=3 ) Linux version 2.6.16-2-amd64-k8-smp (Debian 2.6.16-18) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.0.4 20060730 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.3-6)) #1 SMP Fri Aug 18 21:10:33 CEST 2006 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: - 00098400 (usable) BIOS-e820: 00098400 - 000a (reserved) BIOS-e820: 000c2000 - 0010 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0010 - bff2 (usable) BIOS-e820: bff2 - bff2c000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: bff2c000 - bff8 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: bff8 - c000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: e000 - f000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec00400 (reserved) BIOS-e820: fee0 - fee01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: fff8 - 0001 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0001 - 00014000 (usable) ACPI: RSDP (v000 PTLTD ) @ 0x000f73c0 ACPI: RSDT (v001 PTLTDRSDT 0x0604 LTP 0x) @ 0xbff2875b ACPI: FADT (v001 NVIDIA CK8S 0x0604 PTL_ 0x000f4240) @ 0xbff2be9a ACPI: SPCR (v001 PTLTD $UCRTBL$ 0x0604 PTL 0x0001) @ 0xbff2bf0e ACPI: MADT (v001 PTLTD APIC 0x0604 LTP 0x) @ 0xbff2bf5e ACPI: BOOT (v001 PTLTD $SBFTBL$ 0x0604 LTP 0x0001) @ 0xbff2bfd8 ACPI: DSDT (v001 NVIDIA CK8 0x0604 MSFT 0x010e) @ 0x Scanning NUMA topology in Northbridge 24 Number of nodes 2 Node 0 MemBase Limit 8000 Node 1 MemBase 8000 Limit 00014000 NUMA: Using 31 for the hash shift. Using node hash shift of 31 Bootmem setup node 0 -8000 Bootmem setup node 1 8000-00014000 On node 0 totalpages: 516183 DMA zone: 3103 pages, LIFO batch:0 DMA32 zone: 513080 pages, LIFO batch:31 Normal zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:0 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:0 On node 1 totalpages: 513312 DMA zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:0 DMA32 zone: 254752 pages, LIFO batch:31 Normal zone: 258560 pages, LIFO batch:31 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:0 Nvidia board detected. Ignoring ACPI timer override. ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x8008 ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0 ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled) Processor #0 15:1 APIC version 16 ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x01] enabled) Processor #1 15:1 APIC version 16 ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x02] lapic_id[0x02] enabled) Processor #2 15:1 APIC version 16 ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x03] lapic_id[0x03] enabled) Processor #3 15:1 APIC version 16 ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1]) ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x01] high edge lint[0x1]) ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x02] high edge lint[0x1]) ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x03] high edge lint[0x1]) ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec0] gsi_base[0]) IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, version 17, address 0xfec0, GSI 0-23 ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 low level) ACPI: IRQ9 used by override. Setting APIC routing to physical flat Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information Allocating PCI resources starting at c200 (gap: c000:2000) Checking aperture... CPU 0: aperture @ 102000 size 32 MB Aperture from northbridge cpu 0 too
Re: reiserfs/md1/failure/threads
We have several systems running the jfs file system on AMD64 with no problems. They are running under LVM on MD RAid. There are reliability reasons (that I won't go into here) that we did not use reiserfs. If you don't go with jfs you might also look at xfs. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Ask any politician in private, It's a blast spending other peoples money. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sarge to Etch
I have a working Sarge AMD64 system - is there any problems or tips on upgrading to an Etch system? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Experience is something I never get, until just after I need it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD64 + nvraid installation
Jan De Luyck wrote: Hello list, Just a short question: I'm getting an AMD64 system delivered soon, and I'd like to make use of the nvidia 'softraid' that comes with it (I need it in both OS' that will run on the box). I haven't really found much documentation on this: is this supported from the debian installer on amd64? Or is it manual work? Works with mini.iso -- I installed jfs/lvm/raid with the main system on jfs/raid Thanks, Jan -- !!! INCLUDE ALL TEXT IN TECHNICAL SUPPORT EMAIL REPLIES!!! Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 There's many a bestseller that could have been prevented by a good teacher. --Flannery O'Connor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFS, EXT3 or some other?
We have been running jfs on 5 machines for 2+ years with out any problems. It was written by IBM if I remember correctly. Resizing partitions and file systems works on jfs. I've read too many bug reports dealing with rieser to give it a try. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Time wounds all heels. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge3 kernel build r3
For people wanting to install Sarge on AMD64 I recommend using the mini.iso found here: http://amd64.debian.net/debian-installer/daily/netboot/ I did a sarge jfs on RAID with home on jfs/raid1/lvm with only minor problems with this iso. There should be a mention of this iso on the main installer page for the time being. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Time wounds all heels -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which kernel for dual opteron ???
Really depends on if you are running Sarge or Etch and what chip set your motherboard uses, and if you are running dual processors?. If you are new - I would recommend Sarge. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Never let school interfere with your education. - Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tyan Europe
Francesco Pietra wrote: Any experience with Tyan Europe technical support ([EMAIL PROTECTED])? I posed a question to the above address about raid1 support by the mainboard Tyan KWE 2895. The question was unanswered. Tyan USA blew off a recent question as soon as I mentioned Linux (the question really was particular to Linux) - they apparently don't see Linux users as important to support. - That being said, they do better support than most MB providers. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 What is, is; What was, was; What might of been; never will be. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tyan Europe
Karl Schmidt wrote: ..as I mentioned Linux (the question really was particular to Linux) That should have read ..as I mentioned Linux (the question really _wasn't_ particular to Linux) Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Give me four parameters and I can fit an elephant. Give me five and I can wag its tail'' (The source of the above quote?? Variants have been attributed to C.F. Gauss, Niels Bohr, Lord Kelvin, Enrico Fermi.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch security updates
Add this entries in your source.list deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing etch/security-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing etch/security-updates main contrib non-free What about security updates for AMD64 Sarge? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 When faced with the reality that he would have to start working a real job for a living, the politician became about a quarter turn past hand tight. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which AMD64 installer iso to use?
JD Brown wrote: Read this to understand the basic Debian process CD/DVD's. http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/ It's a bit long but it does answer the basic image questions. I already read that - it still does not explain the mystery of the release dates vs the time stamps on files in the daily build AMD64 iso's on : http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ My hunch is that the daily builds are created blindly by an automated build system and are not useful at this time (perhaps there is some kind of fork between these two sources of iso's?). It would be a great aid to the next guy (and to the value of installation reports) to have at least a note or comment that point folks to: http://amd64.debian.net/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/beta2/images/netboot/mini.iso from the main installer page. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 When angry count four; when very angry, swear. --Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which AMD64 installer iso to use?
Francesco Pietra wrote: Well, the mystery seems to have been solved by authority: the mini.iso has disappeared. My konqueror is answered: URL not found. Why that? Who did that? francesco pietra from http://amd64.debian.net/debian/dists/testing/README amd64 is now available on ftp.debian.org Please use your nearest ftp.debian.org mirror now for the etch or unstable version of the amd64 port of Debian. The sarge version continues to be available from amd64.debian.net and its mirrors until sarge is archived. http://amd64.debian.net/debian-installer/daily/netboot/ The file size is the same. On Wednesday 24 May 2006 21:38, Karl Schmidt wrote: JD Brown wrote: Read this to understand the basic Debian process CD/DVD's. http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/ It's a bit long but it does answer the basic image questions. I already read that - it still does not explain the mystery of the release dates vs the time stamps on files in the daily build AMD64 iso's on : http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ My hunch is that the daily builds are created blindly by an automated build system and are not useful at this time (perhaps there is some kind of fork between these two sources of iso's?). It would be a great aid to the next guy (and to the value of installation reports) to have at least a note or comment that point folks to: http://amd64.debian.net/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/beta2/images/netboot/mini.iso from the main installer page. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 When faced with the reality that he would have to start working a real job for a living, the politician became about a quarter turn past hand tight. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which AMD64 installer iso to use?
Francesco Pietra wrote: This is further confusing me. I reported last night to this list of successful (up to the stage of partitioning disks, when I had to delay the process because it was getting too late and I was unable from manual partitioning to get the tool for partitioning) installation of amd64 debian testing with Tyan K8WE with two dual 265 amd opteron starting from installer as downloaded yesterday from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ I wasted over two weeks trying to use the testing installers from that page. Right now people would be better served if the links for the AMD64 installer images on that page were removed. The daily builds from this page seem to be built from some automated script - the files in the base directory of the iso image keep getting updated, but according to /etc/lsb-release they are not close to current. Someone somewhere needs to realize that there needs to be a working line of AMD64 D-I releases available from debian.org - and the name of the ISO image needs to refer to a build date or rev number for the install reports to have meaning. In the mean time, the following image seems to work on the Tyan S2865 MB and I suspect it will also work with the Tyan S2877 MB. http://amd64.debian.net/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/beta2/images/netboot/mini.iso This image has the ability to run an even more recent kernel when in expert mode! I did a Raid1 install on jfs - so far so good - unfortunately ltp (The Linux Test Project) is not available for sarge (might be a AMD64 issue?). Anyone have any recommendations of what tests to run to shake down a AMD64 sarge server? (I did run bonnie++) Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. --Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which AMD64 installer iso to use?
OK - this is rather strange. There are iso downloads at : http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and at http://amd64.debian.net/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/beta2/images/netboot/mini.iso The daily builds listed at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ seem to have older bugs than the ones at http://amd64.debian.net/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/beta2/images/netboot/mini.iso I think the mini.iso has fixed my problems that I have been sending installation reports on. Can someone clarify what the difference is between the iso's available from the 2 urls? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 If our brain was simple enough to understand, we would be to simple too understand it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: amd64 installation
Not all of a move to ubuntu is good news. Be aware that it is _not_ like Debian Stable. I tried using ubuntu to install on a AMD64 system and tried to move to Debian stable - turned into a huge mess. Ubuntu could be a version of Debian with 'pinning' of certain packages and a few special packages to set up sane defaults and a few special packages - but that is not what it is. From what I can tell, not much that is learned in ubuntu is going directly back to Debian. It may not be a bad choice for a first time Linux user. I found that the iso at: http://amd64.debian.net/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/beta2/images/netboot/mini.iso worked better than others. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Merchandise offered without price, is sure to cost more than it is worth. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#367402: Tyan S2865
Tried the debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso from the may 17th build. It fails at install base system - with DeBootstrap error - failed to determine codename for release. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Misdirection is the key to being a good magician. Magicians tell you they are doing something while they do something quite different; much like politicians -- except we can afford magicians. -KPS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: software raid jfs
using the debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso from may 13 Wiped disk and tried this one again - Dropped down into shell just before the grub install and chroot /target added backports to sources.list apt-get update apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-amd64-k8 complained about hotplug - and removed it?? went back and did the rest of the install. rebooted and things seemed to work, but no network wanted to install 2.6.16, but then it wouldn't let me log in - as if there was no root user? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Any cat would tell you that you can only wash one paw at a time; while we try to do everything at once. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
software raid jfs
Is anyone using software raid (mdraid) and/or jfs with success on AMD64? I finally finished an install on a Tyan S2865 and was installing some extra packages - I suddenly had massive file corruption and an unbootable system. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 When everything is coming my way, I'm probably in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: software raid jfs
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:52:04PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: Is anyone using software raid (mdraid) and/or jfs with success on AMD64? I finally finished an install on a Tyan S2865 and was installing some extra packages - I suddenly had massive file corruption and an unbootable system. I have done raid1 no problem on amd64. The sarge installer had no problem setting that up. LVM and ext3 works fine with it too. Never even looked at jfs. Len Sorensen I'm now thinking it might be the NForce4 chipset - I need to find out where I might snag a newer kernel for sarge - and I am concerned that there is a change about the initrd that might make this a problem? I also think they changed kernel-image to linux-kernel ? My plan is to drop to shell and wget a newer kernel if I can find one. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Time wounds all heels. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: software raid jfs
Giacomo Mulas wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2006, Karl Schmidt wrote: I'm now thinking it might be the NForce4 chipset - I need to find out where I might snag a newer kernel for sarge - and I am concerned that there is a change about the initrd that might make this a problem? yes, but of course this is only a problem if you use an initrd to boot. I use a backported version of yaird for this purpose. Also, if you use them you will need backported versions of some other packages, e.g. udev, module-init-tools, a handful more packages which I don't remember. All in all, I think I needed some 5 backported packages, and it was not a very big problem. I routinely compile kernels from the linux-source package in unstable on these sarge machines using make-kpkg, and install them without problems. I found some backports at: http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ I think these will work? Any way to apt-get from the installer shell so it brings in the dependencies? ,.,. Can anyone tell me what kernel version the AMD64 kernels changed from kernel-image to linux-image? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 When angry count four; when very angry, swear. --Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
emc6d100 lm-sensors tyan 2865 nForce4 chip set
Running Sarge with the 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 kernel and I get kernel: lm85: Unknown parameter `force_emc6d100' Tyan provides a lm-sensors config so I think it is working with other Linux distributions/versions. From the config file ### #Sensors configuration file used by 'libsensors' for Tyan S2865 # # To support NFORCE4 SMBus controller, version 2.9.1 snip # # To your /etc/modules.conf file, add the lines: # alias char-major-89 i2c-dev # # To your /etc/rc.xxx files, add the lines: # modprobe i2c-nforce2 # modprobe lm85 force_emc6d100=0,0x2e # sensors -s snip # # As LM-Sensors not support the SMSC DME1737 Chip, I use the SMSC # EMC6D100 chip to instead of it and the sensor 3.3V StandBy and # Battery Volt cannot be monitored. Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 If it is worth doing, it is worth doing for money. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installer error: Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc
Robert Hulme wrote: I'm trying to install Etch on a Dual Opteron 265 using the Tyan K8SRE motherboard. Which one?? with the Nvidia chipset? What part number Tyan S? When I get to the stage of installing the base system it downloads all the packages then comes up with the error Debootstrap warning - Installer error: Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc and won't proceed any further. If I Alt-F4 it says: debootstrap: chroot: debootstrap: cannot execute mount debootstrap: : No such file or directory I found this problem - /target/proc never got created. so just before that step I did Alt-F2 and #chroot /target #mkdir /proc as soon as the commands became available. Sadly, once this is fixed I couldn't get the kernel installed in a bootable condition. I've tried the daily, weekly, and r2 etch installer :-( Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Any cat would tell you that you can only wash one paw at a time; while we try to do everything at once. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: forcedeth fails on second port with error -12
Sebastian Haase wrote: As final note on this: A reset BIOS to defaults did the trick - God knows why... Only some crucial settings like hardware memory hole needed to be adjusted, but the bottom line: for whatever reason Linux suddenly started seeing the second MAC address... qed. Thanks to every one - Sebastian Haase I saw perhpas the same error? I could not get networking going - and booted up under knoppix4 - which did get connected via forcedeth. This created a lease on the DHCP server and once the lease was there the install was able to connect. Did you do something with a different boot that created a lease? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Misdirection is the key to being a good magician. Magicians tell you they are doing something while they do something quite different; much like politicians -- except we can afford magicians. -KPS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tyan S2877 no network? like to end up with something close to sarge...
Trying with current etch debian-testing-amd64-businesscard.iso (kernel 2.6.15-1-AMD64-generic) This board has two on-board GE Nics: Nvidia CK804 and Broadcom Netextreme BMC5705_2 The Broadcom is almost working. From digging in the logs looks like the ethernet port is sending data - but not receiving??? The Broadcom is just a PHY port - not sure exactly what that means?? do they share the same IP address? I saw in the server logs once where the MAC address was incremented by one??? I think buggy software - the first port uses the forcedeth ver 0.48 driver and the second tg3 ver 3.47 I'm going to boot up knoppix and see if it has the same problem - could be a bad MB?? time passes knoppix 3.7 won't talk, but knoppix 4.0 will. Knoppix 4.0 (kernel 2.6.12)is using forcedeth 0.32 and tg3 3.31 OK, Very strange - once I booted with Knoppix it created a lease on the DHCP server and now networking works on the credit card install (can renew the lease, but not create one??). I still have not yet gotten it to do the base install - complains about not having a /proc mount point. Is there a way to install as 386 and convert over to AMD64 - might be easier?? Might be the software raid stuff??? Should I install and create the raid later?? (OT: All of a sudden it seems silly to have install CDs or DVD - now that there ar 4G thumb drivesgrin.) Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it. --Flannery O'Connor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AMD64
I'm working at getting a Tyan S2877 board up and going using the net-install-cd of unofficial sarge AMD64. Several problems - first it would not recognize my SATA CD/DVD plextor drive (px-755SA) - not a big deal - so I put in an older IDE drive for now. Next, it sees the broadcom Network chips - but they fail to work. After setting up a raid configuration it fails to boot. I'm wondering if I should just give up on Sarge or work these out one at a time? This board has: dual Processors • Supports two AMD Opteron™ 2xx processors Two onboard 4-phase VRMs • µPGA 940-pin socket Chipset • nVIDIA CrushK8-04 Professional • Winbond W83627HF Super I/O • Analog Devices (1) ADT7468 Hardware Monitoring Integrated LAN Controllers • One Broadcom BCM5705 GbE LAN (G2NR) - One RJ-45 LAN connector with LEDs • One Marvell 88E GbE PHY - One RJ-45 LAN connectors with LEDs Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 A patent provides one a license to enrich his lawyer. -kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD64
Jo Shields wrote: Karl Schmidt wrote: I'm working at getting a Tyan S2877 board up and going using the net-install-cd of unofficial sarge AMD64. Several problems - first it would not recognize my SATA CD/DVD plextor drive (px-755SA) - not a big deal - so I put in an older IDE drive for now. Next, it sees the broadcom Network chips - but they fail to work. After setting up a raid configuration it fails to boot. I'm wondering if I should just give up on Sarge or work these out one at a time? This board has: dual Processors • Supports two AMD Opteron™ 2xx processors Two onboard 4-phase VRMs • µPGA 940-pin socket Chipset • nVIDIA CrushK8-04 Professional • Winbond W83627HF Super I/O • Analog Devices (1) ADT7468 Hardware Monitoring Integrated LAN Controllers • One Broadcom BCM5705 GbE LAN (G2NR) - One RJ-45 LAN connector with LEDs • One Marvell 88E GbE PHY - One RJ-45 LAN connectors with LEDs I see no RAID hardware in the above. are you trying to configure MD? Yes - I'm using software raid - MD -- !!! INCLUDE ALL TEXT IN TECHNICAL SUPPORT EMAIL REPLIES!!! Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 If man's brain was simple enough for us to understand, we would be to simple to understand it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
preformance gains?
I am trying to figure out what kind of performance gains I would get from switching to AMD64 from K7 on a dual operon system. Are we talking 10% 50% 5% ??? Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. --Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
