Re: Sarge and Sid
Hi, > On 2005-04-19 Marcin D_bicki wrote: >> I've just installed Sarge. I want to upgrade it to Sid (previously I did >> all >> deb upgrades for Sarge). I am replacing sources.list entries, apt-get >> update and then apt-gate dist-upgrade. Nothing happens. It seems like >> Sarge >> and Sid have the same packages > > Check if apt-get update really loads unstable/sid lists and then try > "apt-get -u upgrade" without the "dist-". Maybe that works. Or, more likely, the OP is using pure64 and not debian-pure64. For pure64 sarge is a symlink to sid AFAIK and only for debian-pure64 is it really following sarge. regards, Thomas PS The list has changed names quite some time ago to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alioth repo broken?
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 13:49 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:25:38PM +0100, T.J. Zeeman wrote: > > > > I've tried to do this a few times over the past hour or so and every > > time it came up the same. Is the disk full again perhaps? > > The disk was full again yes? Do you still have the problem? Yes, the problem is still there. Tried just a minute ago. regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alioth repo broken?
Hi, This morning I tried to do an apt-get update and got several errors on package files from Alioth: carrington:~# apt-get update Hit ftp://ftp.gwdg.de sid/non-free Packages Hit ftp://ftp.gwdg.de sid/non-free Release Get:1 http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org sarge/main Packages [3138kB] Hit http://cyberspace.ucla.edu unstable/main Packages Hit http://cyberspace.ucla.edu unstable/main Release Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Release Hit http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org sarge/main Release Hit http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org sarge/contrib Packages Hit http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org sarge/contrib Release Get:2 http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org sarge/non-free Packages [49.2kB] Hit http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org sarge/non-free Release 99% [1 Packages gzip 5849088] 164kB/s 0s gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file Err http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org sarge/main Packages Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) 99% [2 Packages gzip 0] 164kB/s 0s gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file Err http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org sarge/non-free Packages Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) Fetched 3187kB in 20s (159kB/s) Failed to fetch http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-pure64/dists/sarge/ main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) Failed to fetch http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-pure64/dists/sarge/ non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) Reading Package Lists... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org sarge /main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org_debian-pure64_ dists_sarge_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org sarge /non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org_debian-pur e64_dists_sarge_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or direct ory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. I've tried to do this a few times over the past hour or so and every time it came up the same. Is the disk full again perhaps? regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powernowd / stock kernels
Hi, On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 11:06 -0800, Zachary Rizer wrote: > Please disregard previous email -- I just realized > powernowd is only on XP-M processors, and that what > I'm looking for is "Cool 'n Quiet". > > My mistake! Actually, no mistake at all. I have an AMD64 and run powernowd to have cpu-scaling (as provided by the CnQ-feature in the cpu). I got it to run on a Debian kernel-image after I put powernowd-k8 and cpufreq-userspace in /etc/modules. It was apparently necessary to have these loaded forcedly to get the powernowd daemon to run. regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Successfull install, problems with nvidia video drivers
Hi, > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629 but it is not installable > E: Broken packages > - Have you installed the nvidia-kernel-source package and created a deb with the kernel-module with it? IIRC that was what you needed to do before you could install the rest because there is no nvidia-kernel package in amd64 as there is in i386. Instructions can be found in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source/README.Debian regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 32bit gl-application with nv
Hi, On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 18:52 +0100, Alexander Jede wrote: > I think the application need the gl-libs in 32bit. > or what can I do? If you are using a 32-bit chroot you can just install the 32-bit nvidia-glx package. Due to dependencies it also pulls in a kernel-module package, but that won't be used. Otherwise you will probably have to manually unpack it to the emul32 dir you are using. regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
On Sun, 2005-02-27 at 21:47 +, Erik Norman wrote: > well, what to do to get javaplugin for mozilla(-firefox) running? I got it working with a deb from the following mirror: deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian/ sid non-free Do note that not all blackdown mirrors carry these packages yet and that you have to manually fix the links to the plugin. It is missing the part where it points to the amd64 dir in the link from the alternatives system: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so The other gotcha is that it only works with mozilla, not firefox. At least that is my experience. HTH, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Asus K8V SE Deluxe
On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 15:28 +0100, Thomas J. Zeeman wrote: > I use ACPI, but I don't remember if I set APM on or off, will look at that > tomorrownight when I can get behind my home pc again. It all works AFAICT > though. APM is on in the BIOS, but the kernel does not use it as it is not compiled in. I'm using the 2.6.10 kernel-image from pure64 sid. Suspend does not work yet for me. It looks like it wants to use the apm way of suspending. I have not yet looked into getting it done another way. regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time to test sarge
Hi, On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 18:06 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > So anyone willing to test testing, esspecialy a fresh install, can > point apt to: > > deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-pure64 testing main contrib > non-free I've been running this since shortly after the announcement and it seems to be stable enough for my needs. No crashes or trouble while upgrading or installing other software whatsoever AFAICT. A few bits and pieces have still not propagated to this repository that were in the sid pure64. Evince, libflac6, nvidia-* and kernel-*-2.6.10 are understandable, they're not yet out of sid at all. What is a bit odd is mtr-tiny. I got version .58-1.0.0.1.pure64 installed while both sid and sarge should already be at .67-1. Keep up the great work! regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Asus K8V SE Deluxe
> On Tuesday 22 February 2005 14:34, mtms wrote: >> Advanced Menu >> AMD Cool & Quiet Configuration >> >> Is it safe and/or useful to enable this option and install powernowd? > > I'm running with this setting for weeks with the ondemand cpufreq daemon, > works fine (I had to patch cpufreq because it otherwise it would stop > frequencyswitching after a while). Same here. Running for a few months now. Powernowd handles the switches between frequencies ok for me. (I didn't have to patch anything though.) >> Power Menu >> >> How did you select Suspend Mode? >> Is ACPI 2.0 Support enabled on your box? >> Is ACPI APIC Support enabled on your box? (I'd say yes, but...) > > I have both on. However, I didn't use suspend modes on this system yet. I haven't used suspend either. I'm planning to look into it, but am a bit cautious due to still experimental looking support in the kernel. >> Power Management/APM >> >> Is it safe to disable this feature, letting ACPI enabled (see above)? > > Off, ACPI seems to be working fine. I use ACPI, but I don't remember if I set APM on or off, will look at that tomorrownight when I can get behind my home pc again. It all works AFAICT though. regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Asus K8V SE Deluxe
> Is anybody having a Asus K8V Se Deluxe mobo on his/her pure64 box? > > I'd need to compare bios settings... I do. What is it that you want to know? Something not working? regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACPI: S3 with problems
Hi! > I'use the following system without any problems: > [hardware] To bring the laptop into S3 i have to execute the following things: > Boot with 'vga=normal acpi_sleep=s3_bios' > rmmod all modules > stop acpid > stop hotplug > stop pcmcia > > No the weakup works. > But there's somewhere a problem: (dmesg output) > [several DMA timouts] > --- > The hda-errors occur after the first hdd-activity after the weakup. > But after this errors the hda/ide-controller _seems_ to work again without errors. > I forgot some information: I tried also disable DMA and the rest of hda (that's the only hdd in my laptop) with hdparm (all flags are 0) And after some time I found the following message in my dmesg: warning: many lost ticks. Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interupts rip default_idle+0x24/0x30 Greets Sebastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ACPI: S3 with problems
Hi there!
I'use the following system without any problems:
AMD Athlon64 Mobile 3000+
Radeon9700 Mobile
512 MB RAM
60 GB Fujitsu HDD.
Debian64 pure (not gcc3.4)
To bring the laptop into S3 i have to execute the following things:
Boot with 'vga=normal acpi_sleep=s3_bios'
rmmod all modules
stop acpid
stop hotplug
stop pcmcia
No the weakup works.
But there's somewhere a problem: (dmesg output)
PM: Preparing system for suspend
Stopping tasks: |
PM: Entering state.
hwsleep-0315 [65] acpi_enter_sleep_state: Entering sleep state [S3]
Back to C!
evgpe-0686: *** Error: acpi_ev_gpe_dispatch: No handler or method
for GPE[ 8], disabling event
PM: Finishing up.
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:0b.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 193
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:11.1[A] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 177
eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
ACPI: PCI interrupt :01:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 185
Restarting tasks... done
Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed.
hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21
hda: DMA timeout error
hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
ide: failed opcode was: unknown
hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
ide: failed opcode was: unknown
hda: drive not ready for command
ide0: reset: success
hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21
hda: DMA timeout error
hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
ide: failed opcode was: unknown
hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21
hda: DMA timeout error
hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
ide: failed opcode was: unknown
hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21
hda: DMA timeout error
hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
ide: failed opcode was: unknown
---
The hda-errors occur after the first hdd-activity after the weakup.
But after this errors the hda/ide-controller _seems_ to work again
without errors.
Does anybody have a hint for me (maybe also how to put the laptop into
S3 without nearly shutdown everything).
And another question: Is the ati-driver from the DRI-project S3-save?
Greets
Sebastian
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Re: AMD64 + wine in a 32-bit chroot
On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 19:21 +0100, Marco Amadori wrote: > Alle 12:11, domenica 13 febbraio 2005, T.J. Zeeman ha scritto: > > > Anyone around here that actually uses wine (32-bit, static, emul or > > under a chroot)? With kernel 2.6.10? > > cedega runs fine warcraft3 on my chroot, my 2c. Thanx all for the replies. After upgrading to the latest wine release (20050211) I can now run most apps again under 2.6.10. A bit strange, but I don't care :-) Warcraft 3 is (still) not working, but I think I can manage to find out why that is (given some free time). regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mirror search: problem found? but how to resolve it??
Hi, On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 17:07 +0100, Erik Norman wrote: > I entered the mirror domain: > debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org > then I added the directory: > /pure64/dists/sid/main/binary-amd64/ Have you tried debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org for the server and either pure64 or debian-pure64 for the path? I'm quite sure the path you give above is not as it should be given to the installer even though it is correct when you're in the root of the server. regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD64 + wine in a 32-bit chroot
Hi, On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 11:54 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "T.J. Zeeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Does anybody around here have a 32-bit compiled wine running with kernel > > 2.6.10? I tried to, but everything I throw at it segfaults. > > > > Reverting back to 2.6.8 gets me up and running with several apps again, > > but the ones using some idiotic copy protection need a fix that went > > into 2.6.10. > That is probably the non executable stack. Seeing as it is only a problem with the copy protected stuff I guessed as much. Unfortunately the wine-list came up close to empty, so I thought I would try here. Where there's more AMD64 users ;) Anyone around here that actually uses wine (32-bit, static, emul or under a chroot)? With kernel 2.6.10? regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AMD64 + wine in a 32-bit chroot
Hi, Does anybody around here have a 32-bit compiled wine running with kernel 2.6.10? I tried to, but everything I throw at it segfaults. Reverting back to 2.6.8 gets me up and running with several apps again, but the ones using some idiotic copy protection need a fix that went into 2.6.10. I've found one report that wine should work with AMD64 and kernel 2.6.10, but I can't seem to repeat that feat. regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suspend
Hi! I'm wondering if anyone had successful tests in suspending the pc. I'm more interested in standby/suspend to ram than in suspend to disk. I can put to sleep my Asus A2K with the "echo ..." command, but then there's no way to wake it up. I tried pressing every button on the pc but stays in sleep forever. Also a friend of mine with a different Asus has the same problem. Is it a problem of Asus or acpi? I've got a BrandX-laptop and have the same problem. The fan and the hdd spin up and that's it. The screen is forever black and the nic doesn't work too. Greets Sebastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alioth ?
On Sun, 2005-01-30 at 11:50 +0100, Philippe wrote: > > is alioth dead ? I can't access faq or doc about installing debian > amd64 is this a know problem ? > (i'm a new subscriber but i haven't found anything about problem with > alioth in ml archive) A scheduled downtime. Lasts until tonight (dunno which TZ, but probably US West-coastish). See the archive for a recent post of mirrors. regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Playing wmv files
Hi! When playing wmv file with mplayer, I only got sound but no image. I guess that I was able to play wmv file on my old i386 computer because of w32codecs package that is not available on sid-amd64 (and I understand why) Is there a way to play this format under sid-amd64 without having to set up an i386 chroot system ? AFAIK no, because the w32codecs require the 32bit libs and not the installed 64bit libs. BTW: is it easy to use a chrooted i386 system ? I started to read something about it but the article won't say what I want to hear : I mean let's say i'm booting under sid-amd64 can I easily just run a program such as wine by just typing a command or is it more "casse couille" ? Set it up like presented in the howto and add the optinal dchroot as shown. With the shell-script for the dchroot you will later see no difference between 32 (chrooted) and 64bit app. Greets Sebastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X server can't display 1280x1024 with mga (G550) and LCD Samsung 193P
Hi, On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 10:19 +0100, Arnaud ESPANEL wrote: > Maybe should i try with proprietary Matrox mga driver (with HAL), but i > can't get it to compile with an amd64 kernel. That's because Matrox does not yet provide a 64-bit compiled mga-hal.o file with their sources yet. Several people on their Linux support forum have asked for it but so far they seem to think there's little need for 64-bit support. There's several postings on using a G550 with DVI on amd64 and their support guy appears to claim that DVI only works with the HAL. Others had problems with getting analog to work with higher resolutions on the latest drivers. Check it out at http://forum.matrox.com/mga/index.php regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New ATI fglrx drivers work with AMD64
Hi! use the --force-overwrite switch of dpkg. OK it worked. Now I tried building kernel module. All fine. ERROR when insmod: undefined symbol pci_find_class in module so I edited agpgart_be.c replacing pci_find_class with pci_get_class (from /usr/src/linux/Documentation/pci.txt) and the module loads fine into the kernel, and I can see it with lsmod. Same problem and solution here. But now if I run startx I get an error message saying flgrx module can't be found! :( You have to add the following lines in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 in your Files-Section: Section "Files" [...] ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib64/modules" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" [...] EndSection Greets Sebastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Motherboard Report: Gigabyte GA-7A8DW
Hi, On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 12:49 +1300, Lee Begg wrote: > Haven't had the nerve yet to try udev but would like to. After a recent install of amd64 I installed udev and it worked out of the box for me. No devfs-compatibility needed. regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vote to support java browser plugin on amd64
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 16:08 +0100, Egon Willighagen wrote: > ii j2re1.4 1.4.2.01-1Blackdown Java(TM) 2 > Runtime Environment, Standard Edition > > That's the correct version, right? Yup. > > The actual link in /etc/alternatives is wrong, but a little manual > > intervention fixes that. > > Has a bug been filed for that with Blackdown? I mailed Juergen Kreileder, who posted the announcement on debian-java about the packages, but have not heared from him yet. > > Anyway, to others, here's a workaround: > > $ cd /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/ > $ ln -s amd64/mozilla I fixed the link in /etc/alternative. A bit more work as there are three plug-ins apparently. regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vote to support java browser plugin on amd64
Hi, > May be subj can help. > > http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4802695 The Blackdown 1.4.2 AMD64 JRE already has a working browser plugin. There are debian packages available from some of their mirrors, but do watch out because many carry only the old packages :( The actual link in /etc/alternatives is wrong, but a little manual intervention fixes that. regards, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB2
Hi! >>> Check (lsmod) that you have usb_storage loaded. >> >> >> I have it. >> I can mount it, but only as usb1.1, not at full usb2 speed! > > > Have you tried every USB jack? Yes, he has: >I tried all the five ports, all the same! Ports=jacks (for example more or less also a false friend in German) Greets Sebastian
Re: Openoffice crash.
Hi! I just installed "openoffice.org-debian-files=1.1.2-2+1.0.1" and it fails to run with this output: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ openoffice OpenOffice.org for Debian - see /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org/README.Debian.gz running openoffice.org setup... /usr/lib/openoffice/program/setup.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory setup failed (code 0).. abort Please read /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org/README.Debian.gz for known problems - - I wonder if anyone has been able to get around this problem with openoffice? Nobody is able to install OO on a Debian64 with apt-get. You have to install OO in a 32bit-chroot (HowTo at the Debian64 hompeage). OO2 will be able to run with 64bit libs (afaik). Greets Sebastian
Bug in gpsdrive?
Hi there? I've got a gps-reciever with a PL2303-serial-converter. gpsd (v.2.3) works great with it an delievers the correct coords. kismet works with the gpsd's data great, too. But gpsdrive get into trouble. The normal gpsdrive (against 64bit libs) gets data, but calculates the coords wrong. gpsdrive is alway more or less 1 minute in lat and lon away from the correct data of gpsd. This happens with a direct conenction from gpsdrive to the ttyUSB0 and with the connection gpsdrive->gpsd. And no, something real amazing occurs: On a 32bit SID (my other computer), gpsdrive behaves equal. gpsd runs on the 64bit Debian in 64bit and gpsdrive on the 32bit machine calculate the coords wrong, too. BUT: A gpsdrive on the 64bit machine in a 32bit chroot works great. No problems (chroot is set up according to the Howto). Even the connection to the mysql-server and the kismet-server works great. Is it a bug? Is it a feature? I've got no experience in reporting bugs with bugtraq, so I post here at first. Greets Sebastian
USB-Flash <-> uba?
Hi! I installed a Debian64 on my laptop and it works fine. Even the damm acx110 works great with the new snapshot. My own vanilla-kernel. No problem. But my USB-Flash-Disk behaves very strange: When I plug it into the USB-port, the kernel tells me that a new device (uba) is found. ? On my i386-box it's called sda. Ok, uba or sda. I guess there where no difference in mounting. But there is a difference: There is no /dev/uba1, not even a /dev/uba (The "disk" consists of 2 Paritions, both vfat, recognized by the i386-box as sda1 and sda2). I found uba, uba1 and uba2 only in the /sys-tree. But there where only informations about the flash-disk (which are right, but useless for mounting) So, please, can someone tell me how to mount my litte USB-Flash-Disk? Greet Sebastian
Re: Recommended Graphics card for OpenGL (now is Matrox G450 /Athlon 64)
Hi, > I own a matrox g450 that is ok for my needs. It's quiet and fast enough
Re: Recommended Graphics card for OpenGL (was Matrox P650 / Athlon 64)
Hi, > I wonder whether anyone knows (if any) graphics board can be bought > which also has complete source code for reasonable, even average, > performance OpenGL (Mesa) which also works on pure64? Presumably > nVidia has released some source code, but from my limited experience > with nVidia graphics on 32bit laptops, not all the source code was > released. > [snip] > ps. currently using a Matrox G550 graphics card. If the G550 does not perform as good as you want it to with OpenGL then I think there is hardly a card that is going to fit the "complete open source" requirement. Possibly the Ati 8500 or derivatives up until the 9200 could do the job, but I don't know for sure. For nVidia there is no OSS driver with working, accelerated 3D, only a closed source. nVidia is the only one with a driver for AMD64 available though. regards, Thomas
Re: Matrox P650 and Athlon 64
Hi, > So, I conclude that waiting some time before actually trying to install > 64bit on my machine is a good idea? > > What do you think, can I expect support for my graphic-card provided by a > 64bit-X-Server at some time in the future, as some of the older > Matrox-cards are supported in 32 bit? If you can afford to wait for more than 12 months or even longer before Matrox finally decides to publish a working amd64-enabled driver, then I would say it is a good idea. For me it was not. I wanted to be able to have a working machine with X. I checked which manufacturer did more than pay lip-service and ended up with a list containing only nVidia. Also, don't hold your breath for OSS drivers. The existing ones are for a completely different GPU-architecture (the G-series) for which they published enough documentation to get OSS drivers to be created. The new Parhelia-chip is 'classified' and I do not think they want to disclose any documentation even if you are willing to sign NDAs. regards, Thomas
Re: Matrox P650 and Athlon 64
Hi, > I have an Athlon 64 3000+ and a matrox P650-graphics-card. (I can provide > information on the rest of the hardware if you need it). I used to have a similar system. > Is getting a 64-bit-X running on my system in a reasonable good way > possible? > (I already had the problem that even with the 32-bit-X, the VESA-driver > didn´t work properly, I needed the driver provided by matrox) You can probably forget running anything X-related in 64-bit mode. It might work by now, but not with Matrox's driver and hopefully the VESA-driver does not crash on startup any more like it did for me a few months ago. > If not, what can I expect for the not-too-far future? Easy and reasonable are not what I would expect from this combo. Also, don't expect anything from Matrox. AFAIK they have not even published beta's for WinXP 64 let alone Linux. Speaking of their Linux-driver. It is buggy and has seen no release since last december. A few hints have been given in August that they are still working on a new driver, but I would not bet on that. regards, Thomas
Re: doom3 slowness
> >>>The FX5200 may just not be up for it. Afaik, FX5200 is basically a >>>GF4MX440 upgraded to support DX9 features. A good GF3 card could quite >>>possibly outperform your FX5200. >>> >>No it is truly a GeForce FX chip, but a very minimal one. Same basic >>design as the 5600/5700 supposedly (4 pipelines) but much slower core >>and memory clocks, The 5800 had 8 pipelines and the 5900 doubles the >>memory bus to 256bit (helping the meomry starved pipeines). The 6800 >>(GT and better) have 16 pipelines while the base 6800 has 12. Memory >>bandwitdh matters a lot to these high end cards. The 5200 with 250MHZ >>core and memory (128bit) just won't match a 5900 at 400Mhz Core 425MHZ Unfortunately, most recent FX5200 have a 64-bit wide memoryband limiting them even more. > I'm getting 30-60 fps at 640x480 medium with my fx5600, opteron240s, and > 1G ram. Is fx5200 that much worse than fx5600? In short, yes. See http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040809/doom3-06.html for a comparison under Windows (performance should be about the same for Linux for the nVidia models). Do note that the FX5200 mentioned there is an ultra model which is reportedly 50% faster than the non-ultra FX5200s. Unless the TS has one of those ultras I think he got about the performance he could expect. Maybe it could be upped to about 17-18 fps, but at 640x480, 32-bit colour and med-quality I would not expect more from a non-ultra FX5200, especially if it has a 64-bit wide memoryband. regards, Thomas
Re: newbie last try
> On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 09:22:01AM +0200, Thomas J. Zeeman wrote: >> This is an old bug I reported several months ago already. It is still >> not fixed. > > What is the bug, exactly? I have grub booting into Windows XP on an > NTFS partition on a SATA drive without any problems. I used the > "other OS" entry in /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst and it "just > worked" (once it worked at all; iirc I had to install grub manually at > the end of the install (a couple of months ago).) That's the bug I meant. The adm64 installer is still not capable of finding any NTFS-partition while the i386 can do that for ages now. It all works if you fix it by hand later, but it would be a lot nicer if it just worked. regards, Thomas
Re: newbie last try
Hi, > 1. I am unable to have windows in option for boot-up in GRUB. During [snip] This is an old bug I reported several months ago already. It is still not fixed. >From what I remember the installer for AMD64 does not have the necessary scripts to recognize a Windows partition on NTFS. The fix someone mentioned then was to use the same scripts for AMD64 as i386 already uses
Re: 802.11g drivers
Hi, > So, do you know if there's a solution to this issue ? I could try to > modify ndiswrapper sources to achieve my goal but I need to know if it's > possible to run 32-bit assembly instruction in a 64-bit kernel module. Can > you suggest me a link where I can get the documentation ? To my knowledge, if part of the kernel is 64-bit, then all the rest of it (drivers included) needs to be 64-bit. It seems to be you are out of luck due to the driver being closed source :( regards, Thomas
Re: libflash-mozplugin
> Is it just me or does this plugin result in a segfault when trying to load > any page in mozilla, firefox, or konqueror containing flash content? Same here. It may be due to the very limited flash-support in the plugin. IIRC it only supports 4 and 5 (partially) and is rumoured to crash on anything using flash 7. regards, Thomas
RE: Problems installing gcc-3.4
Hi, > Yes I know it is possible to compile with gcc-3.4 but I don't know how. I > read somewhere (don't remember where though) how this is done but can't > for my life remember how. This should do the trick: export CC=/path/to/gcc-3.4; ./nvidiainstaller Given that you are using bash and are in the directory where nvidiainstaller resides of course. regards, Thomas
Re: Problems installing gcc-3.4
Hi, > Another problem I have now, with gcc-3.4 installed, is that I can't > install the nvidia drivers. I have downloaded the .run package and tried > with ./NVIDIA --kernel-source-path /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8 but it > complains about cc version. Apperently the kernel is compiled with another > version so how do get around this problem? I had the same problem. I (temporarily) downgraded the kernel to 2.6.7 You can also opt to compile the nVidia-module with gcc 3.4. The default for cc is gcc 3.3 and as of 2.6.8-4 the AMD64 kernel is compiled with gcc 3.4 thus causing a mismatch, I think. regards, Thomas
Re: Installing debian-amd64
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > A Dimarts 28 Setembre 2004 11:03, Kunjan Shah va escriure: > [...] >> > > >> > > so yeah while you are installing and when it asks for the install >> > > method(http, ftp etc) at that time hit alt+f2 at that time type in >> > > "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" that ought to work and then add the >> file > > I have tried it and it doesn't work. I can only check ftp or http and the > choosemirror program doesn't care about the sources.list. Any idea? IIRC you wanted to get it from a local harddisk. You could try to run the installer in expert mode and at the stage where you download the additional installer modules, select the one that enables local hdd package repositories. AFAIK it is not available in the default path of the installer. HTH, Thomas
Re: Installing debian-amd64
> I`ve nearly the same problem, i try to install debian 64 bit from my > mini-iso. > There are no problem with the installation until the time i have to > choose the mirror for the 64 bit debian. > First i have to choose the country and then a mirror. After that there > is a warning that the mirror was not found or sometimes that one file > was not found. > My Internet Connection is dialed up, so that can`t be the problem Go to the top of the list and select the option to enter a mirror manually. There are no AMD64 mirrors yet in the official pool of mirrors. Use http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org and /pure64/ for mirror and path. Check the Ports-page for AMD64 if you can use a mirror of that one. regards, Thomas
Re: ltmodem
Hi, > Has anyone gotten ltmodem to compile in pure-amd64? I've tried that > and I've tried using the ia32-libs-dev, using both gcc-3.3 * 3.4. I > probably didn't do it right though :( > > Here's the last of the output from ./build_module. I added the -m32 in > various places in the Makefile. I also had to change the > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 to =4, otherwise it complains that it's > not within the range it wants. >From the above I get the feeling you are trying to compile a driver in 32-bit mode that you want to insert into a 64-bit kernel. That will never work. You need the 64-bit driver. If that does not exist for ltmodem then you are out of luck. regards, Thomas
Re: video card ?
>> On Mon 06 Sep 2004 09:20:26 PM CEST, Thomas J. Zeeman wrote: > Unfortunately the supplier could no longer deliver the Asus V9570 and I > got a AOpen 6800LE instead. I cannot tell you how that card works under > Linux, yet. It took a little longer than planned, but I can tell you now. :) The 6800LE works both with the amd64 vesa and the amd64 nvidia driver (version 6111, kernel-image 2.6.7-6). regards, Thomas
Re: video card ?
> On Mon 06 Sep 2004 09:20:26 PM CEST, Thomas J. Zeeman wrote: > >> I have just ordered the Asus (in the 128 MB edition) and will get it >> this >> weekend. I you want to I can mail you if I get it to work with Debian >> AMD64. Unfortunately the supplier could no longer deliver the Asus V9570 and I got a AOpen 6800LE instead. I cannot tell you how that card works under Linux, yet. It is not so quiet as the P650 I had :(, but a whole lot faster playing C&C :). > Pity... the 650 is supposed to be a nice card, I bought based on my > experince of > the dual DVI 550, it worked fine, even without the HAL library. :-( Yup. That was why I bought the P650 too. But I have learned since that Matrox does not really support Linux anymore. Especially WRT the Parhelia-series. :( regards, Thomas
Re: video card ?
Hi, > I don't know which video card i must choose. > I would like to know if the following video cards : > 1) "*Point of View GeForce FX 5900 XT 128 Mo DDR/DVI > is compatible" with Debian-amd64 ?. > 2) " **ASUSTEK V9570/TD 256 Mo TV/DVI (NVIDIA GeForce FX5700) > is compatible with Debian amd-64 ?. Thanks to nVidias UDA the brand does not matter only the chipset. Both chipsets are reported to work with Debian AMD64. See the thread "AMD64 and video card experiences" I started a few weeks ago for confirmation or check the nvnews.net Linux-forum. I have just ordered the Asus (in the 128 MB edition) and will get it this weekend. I you want to I can mail you if I get it to work with Debian AMD64. hth, Thomas
Re: newbie
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 01:26:07PM +0200, Thomas J. Zeeman wrote: >> > If I install amd64 port can I execute old i386 apps? >> Yes. See the AMD64 FAQ/HOWTO on the ports page for more info. > > The chroot is the only solution or in a little future there is a > pissibility to run i386 apps in general enviroment? ATM that is the option with the best chances of success I think. You can also try with a kernel supporting 64/32 translation together with the linux-ia32-lib package AFAIR. For instance, see the current thread about getting acroread to work on amd64. Other threads about this (including 3d apps using nVidia mixed-mode driver) can also be found in the archive. In the long term the solution is considered to be multi-arch. That is not yet ready for the average user yet AFAIK. HTH, Thomas
Re: newbie
Hi, > I'm just bought an AMD-64 3000+ and I saw on Debian site that there is > a "port". Can I dist-upgrade to x86-64 without any serious damage (I can > accept usual misfunction from 'beta') or I should reinstall? A dist-upgrade is not possible (at least not yet and not in the forseeable future either AFAIK). A reinstall is therefore the only available option. You can reuse your current i386-installation to bootstrap the amd64 install. Another possibility is a complete install based on the debian-installer images available via the Debian-Installer project page. > If I install amd64 port can I execute old i386 apps? Yes. See the AMD64 FAQ/HOWTO on the ports page for more info. regards, Thomas
amd64 and video card experiences?
Hi, Ever since I got close to the stage where I wanted to upgrade my Matrox P650 with a Sledgehammer (pun intended) I am looking for experiences by others with ATI or nVidia cards, especially with the OSS-drivers (especially since ATI has stil not delivered an AMD64-enabled Linux-driver). Unfortunately posts about them are a bit rare it seems, especially for Debian. So I would like to hear some experiences from you people. I am mostly looking at an ATI 9200 card, but I would not mind about hearing experiences with 9600 series or nVidias 5200/5900XT series. thanx, Thomas
Re: Cross-Update possible (i386->amd64)?
Hi, > is it possible to do a cross-update from i386-Debian to amd64-Debian > after its release? What will I have to do then? For the time being, the only way to get a amd64 system is by installing it from scratch/chroot. Cross-update is not possible AFAIK. I have read a few comments that suggest (to me at least, so please correct me if I am wrong) that multi-arch can do this, but that is not yet available nor will it be in the near future. For more info, see the documentation on the projects page: http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ hth, Thomas
Re: [debian-amd64] building a dual Opteron Server
> > Is debain-amd64 a seperate distribution? I´ve got a set of rather old > Woody CDs here, so I´ll either look out for a set with a recent > distribution or install by downloading from internet. But it seems I > cannot find some documentation or such to get headed into the right > direction. debian-amd64 is a non-official debian version. See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ for more info. See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for installer ISOs using the new Debian-installer. It installs a 64-bit amd64 system with some support to run 32-bit apps. > THX, that´s definitely a statement I like to hear :) I´m very concerned > about the compatibility issues, and you won´t find a vendor/supplier who > can tell if things will work with the setup in question. Thus, it helps > a lot to get word from someone who runs almost the same hardware :) WRT incompatibilties I have only noticed that video-hardware may not work ok. Mostly due to the fact that all recent hardware seems to require a binary driver :(. But as you are using the machine for a server, that should not be a problem. HTH, Thomas
Re: K8 Mainboards Linux compatibility list correction
Hi, With everybody posting updates, I thought I'ld chime in with one as well. The entry for the mobo I use (Asus K8V SE Deluxe) is not correct/complete: SATA: sata_via + sata_promise Sound: via82xx The entry for its predecessor (Asus K8V (Deluxe)) is completely missing. It is almost identical to the SE. Only the NIC used is different (3Com 940 for this one, Marvell for the SE) but the driver remains the same: sk98lin. regards, Thomas
Re: problem running X11
Hi, > i've experienced such problems too. however, i have a ati radeon 9200 gfx > card but the same motherboard. > i fixed this problem by not loading the dri module in > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Thanks for the response. Unfortunately your tip was not the one that solved my problem :( I've also checked if it was the vesafb module that got in the way, but after compiling a 2.6.7-kernel without framebuffer support I still get a locked up machine. Even an ssh into the machine does not work. Anyone else out there that may have a hunch about this? regards, Thomas
Re: upgrade from testing i386 to amd64
Hi, > I've managed to find out from the list and google Debian/testing for > amd64 isn't yet aviable (any plans when it will be?)? Dunno for sure but it may happen a little while after amd64 gets into sid
problem running X11
Hi, I'm trying to get x11 to run on my machine but whatever I try to do it completely locks up and I have to reset it. My machine has an Asus K8V SE deluxe, A64 3200+ and a Matrox P650. Since the latter has no working amd64-compatible driver I'm trying to get it to work with the vesa-driver. The system is installed with a d-i daily image from debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-image dated 20040724 (I've also tried almost all others of the past week but all have the same result on x11) and that seems to work out fine. At one point I thought it could be the known problem of a PS/2 mouse and kernel 2.6.7 but moving my mouse to USB and using kernel 2.6.6 also resulted in a complete lockup. I've also tried to get it to run with a known working XF86config-4 from an i386 install (the only other difference being that it uses a 2.6.5 kernel) but that one results in a lock-up too. Does anyone have any idea what I may have done wrong? Or has anyone got an idea of what else I could try to do to get X working? I've attached my config and log from the last try. I was on a cleanly installed system running the default kernel (2.6.7) and my mouse stuck in a usb-port. regards Thomas XF86Config-4 Description: Binary data XFree86.0.log Description: Binary data
Re: How to build a kernel which boots from SATA?
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 10:25:39PM +0200, Michael Bienia wrote: >> options are wrong. So I tried to build a new kernel (2.6.8-rc2) but I >> didn't get it to boot from my SATA disk. The installed kernel >> (2.6.7-5-amd64-k8-smp) boots fine (module is sata_via). > > Maybe you also have an other module for it? sata_via makes it > /dev/sda while there is a driver (forgot it's name) that makes it > /dev/hde. On my Asus K8V SE I can get either /dev/sda or /dev/hde with the sata_via module. This seems to depend on which kernel I load. On 2.4 it is sda, on 2.6 it is hde. regards, Thomas
Re: Status of AMD64 - newbie
> I saw on the Debian-website, that Mozilla (suite, Firefox, Thunderbird > and so on) and OpenOffice aren't availible for pure64 at the moment. > Is that right or are the programs now in the tree? > > I need for my system the following programs: > -Mozilla Firefox/Thunderbird This one is usually working, except that right now there seems to be a problem with mozilla (and derivatives). A few posts to working debs have been posted the last few days. > -OpenOffice This one is not yet available AFAICT. From the few messages I read about this both on this list and the gentoo-amd64 forum it appears to be an upstream-problem. They have not yet ported it cleanly to amd64 64-bit mode. That's a version 2 TODO. IIRC the howto explicitly mentions a workaround for OO.o 1.x using a 32-bit chroot. > -KDE (:D) > -Gimp (1 or 2, no matter) No experience with either, but I do remember seeing a lot of kde-packages when browsing the pool for a kernelimage last weekend. hth, Thomas
Re: Status of AMD64 - newbie
Hi! | I wondering if AMD64 port is stable enough to use it on my Athlon64... | I use Deian SID (i386) on my machines for a long time, so if it is almost | as stable as SID, I'll try it. | | What do you think, should I try? Yes. Try it. For me debian-amd64 works ok. Most i programming, cross-compile (with little problems at the moment), www, email, news, tv, radio, irc, etc. pp. - all without great problems. I saw on the Debian-website, that Mozilla (suite, Firefox, Thunderbird and so on) and OpenOffice aren't availible for pure64 at the moment. Is that right or are the programs now in the tree? I need for my system the following programs: -KDE (:D) -Mozilla Firefox/Thunderbird -Gimp (1 or 2, no matter) -OpenOffice At the moment, I use SID i386 Greetrings Sebastian
