Re: apt on amd64: question from newbie
2009/5/20 Joao Ferreira gmail > Hello all, > > I've recently installed debian on amd64 from a amd64 NETINST iso. > > Maybe I'm a bit confused, but... I'dd like to know if I need to edit my > apt sources.list in order for apt to fetch de amd64 packages instead of > the "standard" i386 packages... you don't have to edit sources.list, apt & co will automagically fetch amd64 packages -r
apt on amd64: question from newbie
Hello all, I've recently installed debian on amd64 from a amd64 NETINST iso. Maybe I'm a bit confused, but... I'dd like to know if I need to edit my apt sources.list in order for apt to fetch de amd64 packages instead of the "standard" i386 packages... I've noticed that there are amd64 specific .deb packages but I don't now if apt-get/synaptic/etc are "smart enough" to use the amd64 repositories or must I edit the sources.list... thank you Joao PS: my current sources.list (I did not touch it after install;) # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20090429-03:20]/ squeeze main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Squeeze_ - Official Snapshot amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20090429-03:20]/ squeeze main deb http://ftp.pt.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main deb-src http://ftp.pt.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main PS2: dpkg tells me I only have the amd64 kernel nothing else :) dell-sc440:/home/jmf# dpkg --list | grep amd64 ii ia32-libs2.7 ia32 shared libraries for use on amd64 and i ii linux-headers-2.6-amd64 2.6.26+17+lenny1 Header files for Linux 2.6-amd64 ii linux-headers-2.6.26-2-amd64 2.6.26-15 Header files for Linux 2.6.26-2-amd64 ii linux-image-2.6-amd642.6.26+17+lenny1 Linux 2.6 image on AMD64 ii linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 2.6.26-15 Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64 dell-sc440:/home/jmf# -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
I've got no problems with firefox just needed to fix the links too! T.J. Zeeman escribió: On Sun, 2005-02-27 at 21:47 +, Erik Norman wrote: well, what to do to get javaplugin for mozilla(-firefox) running? I got it working with a deb from the following mirror: deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian/ sid non-free Do note that not all blackdown mirrors carry these packages yet and that you have to manually fix the links to the plugin. It is missing the part where it points to the amd64 dir in the link from the alternatives system: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so The other gotcha is that it only works with mozilla, not firefox. At least that is my experience. HTH, Thomas
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
On Sun, 2005-02-27 at 21:47 +, Erik Norman wrote: > well, what to do to get javaplugin for mozilla(-firefox) running? I got it working with a deb from the following mirror: deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian/ sid non-free Do note that not all blackdown mirrors carry these packages yet and that you have to manually fix the links to the plugin. It is missing the part where it points to the amd64 dir in the link from the alternatives system: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so The other gotcha is that it only works with mozilla, not firefox. At least that is my experience. HTH, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
well, what to do to get javaplugin for mozilla(-firefox) running?
Erik
On Son, 2005-02-27 at 21:26 +0100, Juergen Kreileder wrote:
> Anders Helmersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Sun, 2005-02-27 at 10:04:21 -0800, tony mancill wrote:
> >> The plugin seems to work, but now when I start mozilla, I get the
> >> following:
> >>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$ mozilla grep: error while
> >> loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object
> >> file: No such file or directory cut: error while loading shared
> >> libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file
> >> or directory sed: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6:
> >> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> > I have had the same problem and it seems to be caused by the line
> > export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5
> > in the set_jvm_vars () in /usr/bin/firefox
>
> Likely, I don't have a Debian/amd64 installation but AFAIK it's
> NPTL-only. With LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 glibc tries to load
> LinuxThreads instead and that isn't available.
>
> > I am not sure if this is related to our installations or if it is a
> > bug in the firefox startup script.
>
> The script should be patched for amd64, all existing amd64 VMs work
> fine with NPTL
>
> > In addition, I get problems when using the java blackdown plugin
> > with some applications on the web (a secure login function) the java
> > application fails sometimes with a segfault and sometimes it
> > produces the attached error log ("An unexpected exception has been
> > detected in native code outside the VM").
>
> Mozilla's OJI interface still has 64-bit issues. I've written fixes
> for Sun over a year ago but it looks like they still haven't pushed
> them into Mozilla.
>
>
> Juergen
>
> --
> Juergen Kreileder, Blackdown Java-Linux Team
> http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/java2-status/
>
>
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Re: Java on AMD64 Question
Anders Helmersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, 2005-02-27 at 10:04:21 -0800, tony mancill wrote:
>> The plugin seems to work, but now when I start mozilla, I get the
>> following:
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$ mozilla grep: error while
>> loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object
>> file: No such file or directory cut: error while loading shared
>> libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file
>> or directory sed: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6:
>> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> I have had the same problem and it seems to be caused by the line
> export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5
> in the set_jvm_vars () in /usr/bin/firefox
Likely, I don't have a Debian/amd64 installation but AFAIK it's
NPTL-only. With LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 glibc tries to load
LinuxThreads instead and that isn't available.
> I am not sure if this is related to our installations or if it is a
> bug in the firefox startup script.
The script should be patched for amd64, all existing amd64 VMs work
fine with NPTL
> In addition, I get problems when using the java blackdown plugin
> with some applications on the web (a secure login function) the java
> application fails sometimes with a segfault and sometimes it
> produces the attached error log ("An unexpected exception has been
> detected in native code outside the VM").
Mozilla's OJI interface still has 64-bit issues. I've written fixes
for Sun over a year ago but it looks like they still haven't pushed
them into Mozilla.
Juergen
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Re: Java on AMD64 Question
Well, I still can't figure out the path but it seems the Bluej.org software that I use, when extracted and installed automatically figured out where Java is and it works great with Bluej. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
On Sun, 2005-02-27 at 10:04:21 -0800, tony mancill wrote:
> The plugin seems to work, but now when I start mozilla, I get the following:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$ mozilla
> grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
> cut: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
> sed: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
I have had the same problem and it seems to be caused by the line
export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5
in the set_jvm_vars () in /usr/bin/firefox
I am not sure if this is related to our installations or if it is a bug in
the firefox startup script.
In addition, I get problems when using the java blackdown plugin with
some applications on the web (a secure login function) the java
application fails sometimes with a segfault and sometimes it produces
the attached error log ("An unexpected exception has been detected in
native code outside the VM").
Anders
hs_err_pid8186.log.gz
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Re: Java on AMD64 Question
Hallo, Juergen Kreileder wrote: Javier Kohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Beware because debugging is broken with Blackdown's JDK 1.4.2_01 on AMD64. It's been reported several times in their BTS, but there's been no answer so far (at least on the BTS; I haven't checked their mailing list, if they have one). This will be fixed in the next release. You should be able to work around the problem by adding stdalloc=y to the run -Xrunjdwp options. (1.4.2-01 defaults to stdalloc=n, that means it uses a variant of Doug Lea's malloc which seems to break with NPTL. 1.5 allocates memory via JVMTI, so it doesn't have this problem.) Thanks, I'll try this sooner or later. I hadn't been able to find a workaround anywhere. Also, if you use Eclipse, avoid Sun's JDK (Blackdown's included) because the JIT has a bug that's triggered frequently by the editor causing Eclipse to crash. I have a hard time reproducing this. What do you do to crash it? I just use Eclipse's editor, eventually it'll crash; it could take a few seconds to some minutes, but never too long. Let me find the bug report... here: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=83688 . If you follow the link to the report mine is a duplicate of, you'll see other people complaining about the same. Thanks for your answer, -- Javier Kohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ: blashyrkh #2361802 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
Dunno, I am installing it for the first time with apt-get today. I have always installed the "normal" way, making the symbolic link directly from the java /jdk/plugin/.. to mozilla folder.. On Son, 2005-02-27 at 10:04 -0800, tony mancill wrote: > You can add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list: > > deb http://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian sid non-free > > Then, just "apt-get update ; apt-get install j2re1.4 equivs" > > FWIW, I did this just earlier today on my pure64/sid system. I only loaded > the j2re1.4 package and then updated the > /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin_oji.so symlink to point to > /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so. > > The plugin seems to work, but now when I start mozilla, I get the following: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$ mozilla > grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory > cut: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory > sed: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory > > Anyone on the list know what I'm doing wrong? > > Thanks, > tony > > Erik Norman wrote: > > I don't really get the right mirror location into my source list of apt. > > > > could you please just paste that entry of your apt source list into a > > mail and send it? > > > > Erik > > > > On Sam, 2005-02-26 at 22:06 -0600, Juan A wrote: > > > >>www.blackdown.com > >> > >>look for a mirror, add it to your sources.list, check you have > >>non-free also in you main mirror and you´re done > >>apt-get install j2sdk1.4 or j2re1.4 > >> > >> > >>Robert King escribió: > >> > >>>There are licence problems. The java-package package allows you to > >>>install > >>>downloaded java (list of supported stuff in the package), but you still > >>>need > >>>to download seperately > >>> > >>>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:40, Patrick Carlson wrote: > >>> > >>> > Hello. I'm a little confused as to getting Java on my AMD64 system. > Can I apt-get install it? I went to java.com and they seem to have an > AMD64 self extracting binary. I would rather use apt-get though so > that I can keep it up to date. Thank you for the help. > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
You can add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian sid non-free Then, just "apt-get update ; apt-get install j2re1.4 equivs" FWIW, I did this just earlier today on my pure64/sid system. I only loaded the j2re1.4 package and then updated the /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin_oji.so symlink to point to /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so. The plugin seems to work, but now when I start mozilla, I get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$ mozilla grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory cut: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory sed: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Anyone on the list know what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, tony Erik Norman wrote: I don't really get the right mirror location into my source list of apt. could you please just paste that entry of your apt source list into a mail and send it? Erik On Sam, 2005-02-26 at 22:06 -0600, Juan A wrote: www.blackdown.com look for a mirror, add it to your sources.list, check you have non-free also in you main mirror and you´re done apt-get install j2sdk1.4 or j2re1.4 Robert King escribió: There are licence problems. The java-package package allows you to install downloaded java (list of supported stuff in the package), but you still need to download seperately On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:40, Patrick Carlson wrote: Hello. I'm a little confused as to getting Java on my AMD64 system. Can I apt-get install it? I went to java.com and they seem to have an AMD64 self extracting binary. I would rather use apt-get though so that I can keep it up to date. Thank you for the help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
I don't really get the right mirror location into my source list of apt. could you please just paste that entry of your apt source list into a mail and send it? Erik On Sam, 2005-02-26 at 22:06 -0600, Juan A wrote: > www.blackdown.com > > look for a mirror, add it to your sources.list, check you have > non-free also in you main mirror and you´re done > apt-get install j2sdk1.4 or j2re1.4 > > > Robert King escribió: > > There are licence problems. The java-package package allows you to install > > downloaded java (list of supported stuff in the package), but you still > > need > > to download seperately > > > > On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:40, Patrick Carlson wrote: > > > > > Hello. I'm a little confused as to getting Java on my AMD64 system. > > > Can I apt-get install it? I went to java.com and they seem to have an > > > AMD64 self extracting binary. I would rather use apt-get though so > > > that I can keep it up to date. Thank you for the help. > > > > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
Javier Kohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Beware because debugging is broken with Blackdown's JDK 1.4.2_01 on > AMD64. It's been reported several times in their BTS, but there's > been no answer so far (at least on the BTS; I haven't checked their > mailing list, if they have one). This will be fixed in the next release. You should be able to work around the problem by adding stdalloc=y to the run -Xrunjdwp options. (1.4.2-01 defaults to stdalloc=n, that means it uses a variant of Doug Lea's malloc which seems to break with NPTL. 1.5 allocates memory via JVMTI, so it doesn't have this problem.) > Also, if you use Eclipse, avoid Sun's JDK (Blackdown's included) > because the JIT has a bug that's triggered frequently by the editor > causing Eclipse to crash. I have a hard time reproducing this. What do you do to crash it? Juergen -- Juergen Kreileder, Blackdown Java-Linux Team http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/java2-status/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
Thanks everyone for the help. I went and got the 64 bit version from Sun. I installed it per this tutorial: http://home.bredband.no/gaulyk/java/tutorial/javaredhat.html#Installing%20the%20Software However, I'm not quite sure how to set my $PATH value. There is no "profile.d" folder. I tried creating one but it didn't seem to work. What's the easiest way to setup the path? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
Sun doesn't ship the Java plug-in on AMD64 as of 1.5.0_1. Sun employees gave mixed answers to the corresponding bug reports in their BTS. Sometimes they say it might be fixed in 1.5.1 and others that "it's a bug in the documentation because we won't support the Java plug-in and Java webstart on AMD64." You can vote for this bug http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4802695 or one of the dupes :) Chris Wakefield wrote: H Patrick. Yes it's confusing, but you can go here and get it: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp Just choose: "Download JRE for Other Platforms" and you'll get there in a coupl'a klicks. This is the generic self-extracting installer. The apt-get thingy will get you 1.4 (I think 32 bit) I think you can find that at blackdown, but it'll run with 32 bit I think only. you'll have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to tell apt where to git it, as well. Once you extract jre1.5, you'll have to configure konqueror java in settings to connect to the java binary thusly: /home/user/jre1.5.0/bin/java then java 64 bit will run in konq. Not sure about moz or firef. though. Cheers, Chris W. On February 26, 2005 07:40 pm, Patrick Carlson wrote: Hello. I'm a little confused as to getting Java on my AMD64 system. Can I apt-get install it? I went to java.com and they seem to have an AMD64 self extracting binary. I would rather use apt-get though so that I can keep it up to date. Thank you for the help. -- Javier Kohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ: blashyrkh #2361802 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
Beware because debugging is broken with Blackdown's JDK 1.4.2_01 on AMD64. It's been reported several times in their BTS, but there's been no answer so far (at least on the BTS; I haven't checked their mailing list, if they have one). Also, if you use Eclipse, avoid Sun's JDK (Blackdown's included) because the JIT has a bug that's triggered frequently by the editor causing Eclipse to crash. I found IBM's JDK 1.4.2 to be the most stable on AMD64, though it has its own bugs (not so severe as the others on this platform) and no public bug tracking system to report them. There is a newsgroup but there's barely any traffic there, though I've seen an IBM employee answering once. In brief, I'm using IBM's JDK 1.4.2 and I can't complain because I least it gets the work done (and I use it constantly). Juan A wrote: www.blackdown.com look for a mirror, add it to your sources.list, check you have non-free also in you main mirror and you´re done apt-get install j2sdk1.4 or j2re1.4 Robert King escribió: There are licence problems. The java-package package allows you to install downloaded java (list of supported stuff in the package), but you still need to download seperately On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:40, Patrick Carlson wrote: Hello. I'm a little confused as to getting Java on my AMD64 system. Can I apt-get install it? I went to java.com and they seem to have an AMD64 self extracting binary. I would rather use apt-get though so that I can keep it up to date. Thank you for the help. -- Javier Kohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ: blashyrkh #2361802 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
H Patrick. Yes it's confusing, but you can go here and get it: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp Just choose: "Download JRE for Other Platforms" and you'll get there in a coupl'a klicks. This is the generic self-extracting installer. The apt-get thingy will get you 1.4 (I think 32 bit) I think you can find that at blackdown, but it'll run with 32 bit I think only. you'll have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to tell apt where to git it, as well. Once you extract jre1.5, you'll have to configure konqueror java in settings to connect to the java binary thusly: /home/user/jre1.5.0/bin/java then java 64 bit will run in konq. Not sure about moz or firef. though. Cheers, Chris W. On February 26, 2005 07:40 pm, Patrick Carlson wrote: > Hello. I'm a little confused as to getting Java on my AMD64 system. > Can I apt-get install it? I went to java.com and they seem to have an > AMD64 self extracting binary. I would rather use apt-get though so > that I can keep it up to date. Thank you for the help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
www.blackdown.com look for a mirror, add it to your sources.list, check you have non-free also in you main mirror and you´re done apt-get install j2sdk1.4 or j2re1.4 Robert King escribió: There are licence problems. The java-package package allows you to install downloaded java (list of supported stuff in the package), but you still need to download seperately On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:40, Patrick Carlson wrote: Hello. I'm a little confused as to getting Java on my AMD64 system. Can I apt-get install it? I went to java.com and they seem to have an AMD64 self extracting binary. I would rather use apt-get though so that I can keep it up to date. Thank you for the help.
Re: Java on AMD64 Question
There is a 64-bit version at java.sun.com available. Really easy to install and keep up to date. Dustin Patrick Carlson wrote: Hello. I'm a little confused as to getting Java on my AMD64 system. Can I apt-get install it? I went to java.com and they seem to have an AMD64 self extracting binary. I would rather use apt-get though so that I can keep it up to date. Thank you for the help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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There are licence problems. The java-package package allows you to install downloaded java (list of supported stuff in the package), but you still need to download seperately On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:40, Patrick Carlson wrote: > Hello. I'm a little confused as to getting Java on my AMD64 system. > Can I apt-get install it? I went to java.com and they seem to have an > AMD64 self extracting binary. I would rather use apt-get though so > that I can keep it up to date. Thank you for the help. -- Robert King, Statistics, School of Mathematical & Physical Sciences, University of Newcastle, Australia Room V133 ph +61 2 4921 5548 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://maths.newcastle.edu.au/~rking/ LOAD "LINUX",8,1 -- Topic on #LinuxGER -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello. I'm a little confused as to getting Java on my AMD64 system. Can I apt-get install it? I went to java.com and they seem to have an AMD64 self extracting binary. I would rather use apt-get though so that I can keep it up to date. Thank you for the help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD64 Question
Paul. (B (BBrilliant !! (B (BThanks a bunch. Seems like there is still a lot to learn left. (B (BBest regards (B (BNils Valentin (BTokyo / Japan (B (B (B> On Thursday 02 December 2004 01:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B> wrote: (B>> Thanks Paul, (B>> (B>> That confirms what I was thinking. (B>> (B>> How can I install the smp kernel with apt-get Any chance that you know (B>> the (B>> current smp kernel debian package name ? (B> (B> apt-cache search kernel-image smp (B> Should give you a list. (B> (B> Paul (B> (B> (B> -- (B> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact (B> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B> (B>
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On Thursday 02 December 2004 01:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (B> Thanks Paul, (B> (B> That confirms what I was thinking. (B> (B> How can I install the smp kernel with apt-get Any chance that you know the (B> current smp kernel debian package name ? (B (Bapt-cache search kernel-image smp (BShould give you a list. (B (BPaul
Re: AMD64 Question
Thanks Paul, (B (BThat confirms what I was thinking. (B (BHow can I install the smp kernel with apt-get Any chance that you know the (Bcurrent smp kernel debian package name ? (B (BBest regards (B (BNils Valentin (BTokyo / Japan (B (B (B> On Wednesday 01 December 2004 18:01, Nils Valentin wrote: (B>> Thats what I cant make any sense of anyway it tells me (B>> "2.6.8-9-amd64-k8" (B>> (B>> If I understand that correctly than it is suing a single CPU kernel (B>> while (B>> it should say "kernel-version-XXX-smp" really. (B> (B> Below is the uname -a output from two different machines. You'll notice (B> the (B> first (which is an SMP kernel) says SMP, the latter (which is a UP kernel) (B> does not. (B> (B> Linux wren 2.6.9-wibble #1 SMP Wed Nov 10 16:56:58 GMT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux (B> Linux jay 2.6.7-wibble #1 Sat Jul 10 14:16:42 BST 2004 i586 GNU/Linux (B> (B> For 2.6 kernels you may be able to extract the exact kernel configuration (B> from (B> the kernel image, or from /proc/config.gz (B> (B> Paul (B> (B> (B> -- (B> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact (B> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B> (B>
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Hi Hank, (B (BI fully agree to what you say. This is what I get: (B (Bprocessor : 0 (Bvendor_id : AuthenticAMD (Bcpu family : 15 (Bmodel : 5 (Bmodel name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 848 (Bstepping : 10 (Bcpu MHz : 2192.480 (Bcache size : 1024 KB (Bfpu : yes (Bfpu_exception : yes (Bcpuid level : 1 (Bwp : yes (Bflags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat (Bpse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow (Bbogomips : 4308.99 (BTLB size : 1088 4K pages (Bclflush size : 64 (Bcache_alignment : 64 (Baddress sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual (Bpower management: ts fid vid ttp (B (B (BBasically I should have this info 2 times on the screen if I remember this (Bcorrcetly. (B (BAny ideas ? (B (BBest regards (B (BNils Valentin (BTokyo/Japan (B (B> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 03:01:45 +0900, Nils Valentin (B> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (B>> Thats what I cant make any sense of anyway it tells me (B>> "2.6.8-9-amd64-k8" (B>> (B>> If I understand that correctly than it is suing a single CPU kernel (B>> while it (B>> should say "kernel-version-XXX-smp" really. (B>> (B>> Best regards (B> (B> Many long yuears ago when I was running a dual Pentium Pro, 'cat (B> /proc/cpuinfo' would show both CPUs. (B> (B> -- (B> '95 K75RT - "BABY K" (B> '95 Miata - "OUR LC" (B> '95 F250 4x4 - anon (B> Beautiful Sunny Winfield (B>
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On Wednesday 01 December 2004 18:01, Nils Valentin wrote: > Thats what I cant make any sense of anyway it tells me "2.6.8-9-amd64-k8" > > If I understand that correctly than it is suing a single CPU kernel while > it should say "kernel-version-XXX-smp" really. Below is the uname -a output from two different machines. You'll notice the first (which is an SMP kernel) says SMP, the latter (which is a UP kernel) does not. Linux wren 2.6.9-wibble #1 SMP Wed Nov 10 16:56:58 GMT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux Linux jay 2.6.7-wibble #1 Sat Jul 10 14:16:42 BST 2004 i586 GNU/Linux For 2.6 kernels you may be able to extract the exact kernel configuration from the kernel image, or from /proc/config.gz Paul
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Thats what I cant make any sense of anyway it tells me "2.6.8-9-amd64-k8" If I understand that correctly than it is suing a single CPU kernel while it should say "kernel-version-XXX-smp" really. Best regards Nils Valentin On Thursday 02 December 2004 02:16, Alexandru Cabuz wrote: > > How would I know that the installed Kernel > > is a single CPU or smp kernel (Dual, Quad etc.) ? > > Wouldn't uname -a tell you? > > Alex. -- kind regards Nils Valentin Tokyo/Japan http://www.be-known-online.com/mysql/
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> How would I know that the installed Kernel > is a single CPU or smp kernel (Dual, Quad etc.) ? Wouldn't uname -a tell you? Alex.
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Hi Debian fans, Just a quick question. How would I know that the installed Kernel is a single CPU or smp kernel (Dual, Quad etc.) ? -- kind regards Nils Valentin Tokyo/Japan http://www.be-known-online.com/mysql/
Re: AMD64 Question
Yeah, it can be a little misleading at times but generally Xeons (800mhz) refers to 800mhz FSB Xeons which currently is the Nocona :) E7320 is the Lindenhurst-VS I believe although there isn't too much difference between workstation and server chipsets in this generation eg the Iwill DN800 I've got sitting here can be 1U rackmounted (onboard ATI Rage XL video) but also features PCI-E 16x for discreet graphics but anyway its getting a little off-topic :) Ben Soenke von Stamm wrote: Am Mittwoch, 1. Dezember 2004 11:18 schrieb Ben Wang: 800mhz FSB Xeons are all based on the Nocona core and are EM64T compatible. "- Tyan Tiger 7320 motherboard, 2xXeon (800Mhz), 2GB RAM, 3Ware 9000 SATA hardware Raid (PCI-X), Intel nics." Um, this translates to 800 MHz _FSB_ Xeons...? He could have told that =;) Ah, and 7320 is the chipset, not the mobo number. Allright then, have fun with it! Sönke
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Am Mittwoch, 1. Dezember 2004 11:18 schrieb Ben Wang: > 800mhz FSB Xeons are all based on the Nocona core and are EM64T compatible. "- Tyan Tiger 7320 motherboard, 2xXeon (800Mhz), 2GB RAM, 3Ware 9000 SATA hardware Raid (PCI-X), Intel nics." Um, this translates to 800 MHz _FSB_ Xeons...? He could have told that =;) Ah, and 7320 is the chipset, not the mobo number. Allright then, have fun with it! Sönke
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Simon Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi There, Can someone please answer a hardware/usage question for me? We > have used woody on 386/686 servers for ages, normally on pentium 3 and AMD > athlons. We are currently susing a new production mail server... which > will have the following installed: > > - Postfix, DBMail, Apache, PHP, MySQL and a virus product called BitDefender > > The servers spec is currently: > > - Tyan Tiger 7320 motherboard, 2xXeon (800Mhz), 2GB RAM, 3Ware 9000 SATA > hardware Raid (PCI-X), Intel nics. > > My question is: Above sinatlling sarge and running this kernel > "kernel-image-2.6.8-9-em64t-p4-smp", is it worth looking at the AMD64 > debian port for this server? bearing in mind that it is a production > system and needs to be a high-availability one at that. > > Thanks (sorry for the green question) > > Simon I would suggest creating a chroot (see amd64 FAQ) and install services there (use different ports for servers). Test if it all works. [Actualy first install the kernel and see if your existing system stays stable]. Do BitDefender come with a 64bit version? Getting that to works might be (relatively speaking) the hardest part. MfG Goswin
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800mhz FSB Xeons are all based on the Nocona core and are EM64T compatible. Plus E7320 chipset only supports the Noconas, no Prestonia for that board :) Ben Soenke von Stamm wrote: Am Mittwoch, 1. Dezember 2004 05:29 schrieb Simon Buchanan: The servers spec is currently: - Tyan Tiger 7320 motherboard, 2xXeon (800Mhz), 2GB RAM, 3Ware 9000 SATA hardware Raid (PCI-X), Intel nics. My question is: Above sinatlling sarge and running this kernel "kernel-image-2.6.8-9-em64t-p4-smp", is it worth looking at the AMD64 debian port for this server? bearing in mind that it is a production system and needs to be a high-availability one at that. Hi, Pentium-III based Xeons do not sport iAMD64 (yeah ok, EM64T ;-), you'd need the latest and greatest Xeons for that, explicitly marked as EM64T capable. yours, Sönke
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Am Mittwoch, 1. Dezember 2004 05:29 schrieb Simon Buchanan: > The servers spec is currently: > > - Tyan Tiger 7320 motherboard, 2xXeon (800Mhz), 2GB RAM, 3Ware 9000 SATA > hardware Raid (PCI-X), Intel nics. > > My question is: Above sinatlling sarge and running this kernel > "kernel-image-2.6.8-9-em64t-p4-smp", is it worth looking at the AMD64 > debian port for this server? bearing in mind that it is a production > system and needs to be a high-availability one at that. Hi, Pentium-III based Xeons do not sport iAMD64 (yeah ok, EM64T ;-), you'd need the latest and greatest Xeons for that, explicitly marked as EM64T capable. yours, Sönke
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Hello Simon, (B (BI am using the Tyan S2882 (2x Opteron) with Debian sid (64bit). (BThe Debian system is running way more stable than Suse 9.2 Pro which I (Balso did install (Dual boot) for testing prupose. (B (BSuse (Novell) did include a lot of obvious bugs in the current release (Bwhich is a shame for their Image really. (B (BI trust that the Debian support for your mentioned hardware is stable (Benough, but Ima unable to confirm that. (B (BI made several installation reports on my personal homepage feel free to (Bdive in and have a look around. (B (Bhttp://www.be-known-online.com/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=46 (Bhttp://www.be-known-online.com/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=62 (B (BWhile its not a direct answer to your question, I hope that you find some (Buseful info in the reports. (B (BBest regards (B (BNils Valentin (BTokyo / Japan (Bhttp://www.be-known-online.com (B (B (B> Hi There, Can someone please answer a hardware/usage question for me? We (B> have used woody on 386/686 servers for ages, normally on pentium 3 and AMD (B> athlons. We are currently susing a new production mail server... which (B> will have the following installed: (B> (B> - Postfix, DBMail, Apache, PHP, MySQL and a virus product called (B> BitDefender (B> (B> The servers spec is currently: (B> (B> - Tyan Tiger 7320 motherboard, 2xXeon (800Mhz), 2GB RAM, 3Ware 9000 SATA (B> hardware Raid (PCI-X), Intel nics. (B> (B> My question is: Above sinatlling sarge and running this kernel (B> "kernel-image-2.6.8-9-em64t-p4-smp", is it worth looking at the AMD64 (B> debian port for this server? bearing in mind that it is a production (B> system and needs to be a high-availability one at that. (B> (B> Thanks (sorry for the green question) (B> (B> Simon (B> (B> (B> (B> -- (B> This message was scanned for spam and viruses by BitDefender (B> For more information please visit http://linux.bitdefender.com/ (B> (B> (B> (B> -- (B> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact (B> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B> (B>
AMD64 Question
Hi There, Can someone please answer a hardware/usage question for me? We have used woody on 386/686 servers for ages, normally on pentium 3 and AMD athlons. We are currently susing a new production mail server... which will have the following installed: - Postfix, DBMail, Apache, PHP, MySQL and a virus product called BitDefender The servers spec is currently: - Tyan Tiger 7320 motherboard, 2xXeon (800Mhz), 2GB RAM, 3Ware 9000 SATA hardware Raid (PCI-X), Intel nics. My question is: Above sinatlling sarge and running this kernel "kernel-image-2.6.8-9-em64t-p4-smp", is it worth looking at the AMD64 debian port for this server? bearing in mind that it is a production system and needs to be a high-availability one at that. Thanks (sorry for the green question) Simon -- This message was scanned for spam and viruses by BitDefender For more information please visit http://linux.bitdefender.com/
