Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-09-04 Thread Frank
Am Sonntag, 4. September 2005 12:00 schrieb Tim T.:
> About the only thing I haven't
> tried yet is installing gcc-4.0 (bit tricky.. I'm developing code for work,
> which absolutely requires a
> gcc 3.x)

I'm sorry that I cannot help you with your laptop problem, but trying gcc 4.0 
should not be a problem. I also have to code for work with gcc 3.3, and 
have gcc 3.3, 3.4 and 4.0 installed on my laptop. Either you adapt your 
Makefiles to use gcc-3.3 instead of gcc or you set the approbiate symlinks 
correct. If you take care of all the following, you should not have any 
problems?

(/usr/bin)
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-26 15:39 cpp -> cpp-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  94888 2005-06-22 01:01 cpp-3.3
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  98280 2005-07-08 00:10 cpp-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 103224 2005-07-13 18:07 cpp-4.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-26 15:38 g++ -> g++-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  95240 2005-06-22 01:02 g++-3.3
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  98408 2005-07-08 00:12 g++-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 104024 2005-07-13 18:10 g++-4.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-18 14:30 g77 -> g77-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  97064 2005-06-22 01:02 g77-3.3
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 102472 2005-07-08 00:12 g77-3.4
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-26 15:40 gcc -> gcc-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  93608 2005-06-22 01:03 gcc-3.3
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  98280 2005-07-08 00:13 gcc-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 101976 2005-07-13 18:11 gcc-4.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 10 2005-08-26 15:40 gccbug -> gccbug-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  16086 2005-06-22 00:59 gccbug-3.3
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  16209 2005-07-08 00:08 gccbug-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  16261 2005-07-13 18:04 gccbug-4.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  8 2005-08-26 15:41 gcov -> gcov-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  24760 2005-06-22 01:03 gcov-3.3
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  24232 2005-07-08 00:13 gcov-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  27376 2005-07-13 18:11 gcov-4.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  3 2005-08-26 15:41 x86_64-linux-gnu-cpp -> cpp
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-18 14:29 x86_64-linux-gnu-cpp-3.3 -> 
cpp-3.3
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-18 14:30 x86_64-linux-gnu-cpp-3.4 -> 
cpp-3.4
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-18 14:30 x86_64-linux-gnu-cpp-4.0 -> 
cpp-4.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  3 2005-08-26 15:42 x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ -> g++
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-18 14:29 x86_64-linux-gnu-g++-3.3 -> 
g++-3.3
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-26 15:37 x86_64-linux-gnu-g++-3.4 -> 
g++-3.4
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-18 14:30 x86_64-linux-gnu-g++-4.0 -> 
g++-4.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-18 14:30 x86_64-linux-gnu-g77 -> g77-3.4
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-18 14:29 x86_64-linux-gnu-g77-3.3 -> 
g77-3.3
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-18 14:30 x86_64-linux-gnu-g77-3.4 -> 
g77-3.4
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  3 2005-08-26 15:42 x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -> gcc
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-18 14:29 x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc-3.3 -> 
gcc-3.3
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-18 14:30 x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc-3.4 -> 
gcc-3.4
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  7 2005-08-18 14:30 x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc-4.0 -> 
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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-09-04 Thread Tim T.
> (This on an ACER 5024WLMi, by the way.. what irritates me is that I just booted
>  from the Ubuntu live CD, and did see the battery..this is funny, as I have it running on the very same laptop model.I put the kernel image and -headers package I built on
http://213.178.77.236/laptop/togehter with the kernels config. It's quick and dirty based on thedebian 2.6.12 config for amd64-k8, but without the debian patchapplied.
Hi Frederick,

   I've tried to rebuild the kernel with the configuration pulled both from the website and 
   the  running kernel itself, but I can't get it to  show me the battery.. About the only thing I haven't 
   tried yet is installing gcc-4.0 (bit tricky.. I'm developing code for work, which absolutely requires a 
  gcc 3.x)

  Are you sure that you haven't applied any other patches ? 

  By the way, using the code described on the acer_acpi homepage, I managed to  get the wireless 
  working, on a homebuild 2.6.12.-5 with patches.  It's nice to be able to work in the garden, even 
  though I need to set a timer to remind me of battery time.. (about 2.5 hours, on average)

  TimT.




Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 06:35:30AM -0500, Hank Barta wrote:
> Why 1280x800? Isn't the native screen resolution 1280x768?

No.  1280x800 is actually a very common laptop 15.4" display at this
time.  It is 16:10 aspect, which is what 1280x800 is.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-24 Thread Hank Barta
On 8/23/05, Tim T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Also: the Ubuntu distribution has a 1280x800 resolution on this
> hardware, which  I can't seem to reproduce (At least, not with the
> modern Xfree config.. ) Could some one give me a pointer to a working
> configuration ? (I used to be able to compute modelines by hand. Don't
> see anywhere I can put a modeline these days.)

I have two questions about this.

Why 1280x800? Isn't the native screen resolution 1280x768?

I have a similar laptop (HP special edition L2000) that uses the ATI
XPRESS 200M chip set. At present I'm only running Windows XP on it and
only 32 bit XP at that. (HP Says they'll upgrade me when they get full
64 bit driver support.) I've already allocated a bit more than half
the drive for a Linux install but in the mean time, I'm reacquainting
myself with Windows. And I'm getting eager to get back to Linux.
('nuff said about that. I don't want to get started. ;)

I'm in a quandary about whether to go with Debian or Ubuntu. I suspect
that Ubuntu might be an easier, more polished install but I think the
quality of support on this list might be better. (I remain blissfully
ignorant of any friction between Debian and Ubuntu so if I'm hitting
any sensitive spots, you have my apologies in advance.) In fact, I
feel almost inadequate to participate on the list. I'm pretty capable
WRT to administrating my Debian boxes (and one current Ubuntu box)
including such things as customizing kernels and getting WiFi to work,
but I'm clearly not at the level of what I see from the vast majority
of posts on this list.

I'd appreciate your thoughts on this choice. Just be aware that if you
steer me toward Debian, you'll have to put up with my pestering about
getting it to work. ;)

I'm not sure if this is strictly on topic, so if you feel it is not,
again I apologize and thank you for your tolerance.

thanks,
hank

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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-24 Thread Tim T.
On 8/24/05, Frederik Schueler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 10:12:10PM +0200, Tim T. wrote:
> >  I've tried this kernel version and the patch.. without any luck:
> > still no battery
> > (This on an ACER 5024WLMi, by the way.. what irritates me is that I just 
> > booted
> >  from the Ubuntu live CD, and did see the battery..
> 
> this is funny, as I have it running on the very same laptop model.
> 
> I put the kernel image and -headers package I built on
> 
> http://213.178.77.236/laptop/
Wonderful ! I'll give it a spin tonight.. (left the laptop at the home office)


> 
> togehter with the kernels config. It's quick and dirty based on the
> debian 2.6.12 config for amd64-k8, but without the debian patch
> applied.
> 
> > Also: the Ubuntu distribution has a 1280x800 resolution on this
> > hardware, which  I can't seem to reproduce (At least, not with the
> > modern Xfree config.. ) Could some one give me a pointer to a working
> > configuration ? (I used to be able to compute modelines by hand. Don't
> > see anywhere I can put a modeline these days.)
> 
> see the xorg.conf on that location, the interesting part is the
> ModeLine.
 Ah.. I'm still using XFree, since I did not see an option to select
x.org anywhere.

Where can I find the x.org debs for amd64 ?
> 
> Another issue: latest ATI drivers don't do 1280x800 at all, hardware
> forums I searched are full of users complaining about this.
> Hopefully the next ATI drivers release will fix this, as it's the only
> way of getting TV-OUT to work.
> 
> Best regards
> Frederik Schueler
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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-24 Thread Giacomo Mulas

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Tim T. wrote:


Also: the Ubuntu distribution has a 1280x800 resolution on this
hardware, which  I can't seem to reproduce (At least, not with the
modern Xfree config.. ) Could some one give me a pointer to a working
configuration ? (I used to be able to compute modelines by hand. Don't
see anywhere I can put a modeline these days.)


In the monitor section, like:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "LCD display"
Option  "DPMS"
Modeline "1280x800" 82.00 1280 1320 1376 1640 800 802 805 842  # 82 
MHz, 50.0 kHz, 59.4 Hz
EndSection

My laptop is an Asus, hence you will probably need to adjust the timings 
for your probably different hardware.


Bye
Giacomo

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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-24 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 10:12:10PM +0200, Tim T. wrote:
>  I've tried this kernel version and the patch.. without any luck:
> still no battery
> (This on an ACER 5024WLMi, by the way.. what irritates me is that I just 
> booted
>  from the Ubuntu live CD, and did see the battery.. 

this is funny, as I have it running on the very same laptop model.

I put the kernel image and -headers package I built on 

http://213.178.77.236/laptop/

togehter with the kernels config. It's quick and dirty based on the
debian 2.6.12 config for amd64-k8, but without the debian patch 
applied.

> Also: the Ubuntu distribution has a 1280x800 resolution on this
> hardware, which  I can't seem to reproduce (At least, not with the
> modern Xfree config.. ) Could some one give me a pointer to a working
> configuration ? (I used to be able to compute modelines by hand. Don't
> see anywhere I can put a modeline these days.)

see the xorg.conf on that location, the interesting part is the
ModeLine. 

Another issue: latest ATI drivers don't do 1280x800 at all, hardware 
forums I searched are full of users complaining about this. 
Hopefully the next ATI drivers release will fix this, as it's the only 
way of getting TV-OUT to work.

Best regards
Frederik Schueler

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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-23 Thread Tim T.
On 8/17/05, Frederik Schueler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> a short update on the acer wmli5024:
> 
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:09:51PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
> > ACPI is a mess (no battery status! (great for a laptop) nor thermal,
> > only AC and buttons)
> 
> battery status works with 2.6.12.5 and the latest acpi patch found at
> http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/lenb/acpi/patches/release/2.6.12/acpi-20050729-2.6.12.patch.bz2
> 
> and temperatures too.
> 
> > the keyboard starts working after a few key strokes
> 
> one stroke, and it is recognised (with 2.6.12.5+acpi)
> 
> > the touchpad is only recognised after rmmodding and modprobing psmouse
> > again
> 
> problem still present.
> 
> best regards
> Frederik Schueler
> 

hi Frederik,
 I;'ve tried this kernel version and the patch.. without any luck:
still no battery
(This on an ACER 5024WLMi, by the way.. what irritates me is that I just booted
 from the Ubuntu live CD, and did see the battery.. 

Would you be so kind as to post or mail your kernel configuration ? 

Also: the Ubuntu distribution has a 1280x800 resolution on this
hardware, which  I can't seem to reproduce (At least, not with the
modern Xfree config.. ) Could some one give me a pointer to a working
configuration ? (I used to be able to compute modelines by hand. Don't
see anywhere I can put a modeline these days.)

Thanks in advance

  TimT.



Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-21 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 12:24:47PM +0200, Michelasso wrote:
> I would like to ask you again (maybe you didn't see my question) if
> you have any success in making the wireless card and the internal
> modem working

I didn't try to get wavelan to work at all, sorry.
But I tried with the modem, and had the same experience: loading the 
module does nothing, udev does not create any ttySx devices.

BTW, did you manage to get TV-out working? 

Best regards
Frederik Schueler

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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-21 Thread Michelasso
On 8/18/05, Theodore Kisner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Are you sure the button doesn't work?  On my compaq R3000 (athlon64) laptop,
> the button behaves differently with the 32bit windows driver and the 64bit
> one.  In 32bit debian with the 32bit windows driver under ndiswrapper,
> enabling the button turns on the wifi indicator light which then glows solid.
> With 64bit debian and the 64bit driver, pressing the button *does* change the
> state of the radio, but the indicator does not turn on.  When there is
> network traffic, the light flickers indicating traffic on the connection.
> 
> So basically if I can't find the network, I push the button and try again.
> Actually I usually just leave it enabled anyway.  Another thing you could try
> is to boot into windows, enable the radio, and then reboot into linux and see
> if that works...

I have tried both things, but the radio is always turned off; when I
press the button that should turn it on I get this in syslog:

 Aug 21 12:26:14 aquila kernel: atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed
(translated set 2, code 0xd6 on isa0060/serio0).
Aug 21 12:26:14 aquila kernel: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e056
' to make it known.
Aug 21 12:26:15 aquila kernel: atkbd.c: Unknown key released
(translated set 2, code 0xd6 on isa0060/serio0).
Aug 21 12:26:15 aquila kernel: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e056
' to make it known.

So the kernel doesn't recognize the button.
Bye.



Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-21 Thread Michelasso
On 8/18/05, Frederik Schueler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, I did something similar, additionally the initscript does a
> 
> echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
> 
> to make the fan shut up ;-)
> 
> 

Thanks a lot for your answer;
I would like to ask you again (maybe you didn't see my question) if
you have any success in making the wireless card and the internal
modem working: for the first one, I have problems with the button that
turns the radio on; for the second,I have compiled snd_atiixp_modem as
a module, but when I load it I see nothing in syslog and I cannot find
any device associated to the modem.

Bye.



Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-21 Thread Michelasso
On 8/19/05, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 18. August 2005 20:42 schrieb Frederik Schueler:
> > Yeah, I did something similar, additionally the initscript does a
> >
> > echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
> >
> > to make the fan shut up ;-)
> 
> Speaking of this, I have to add a short question: Does the ondemand governor
> mean, that I do not need a userspace tool (like "powernowd") anymore for
> scaling the processor frequency? Sounds like a much cleaner solution to me,
> so if this is the case, I'd like to switch to it.
> 

Yes, but the problem with ondemand is that it cannot distinguish if
your ac adapter is connected or not, and so you cannot modify its
policy as for example having always maximum speed pf the processor
when the ac adapter is connected.
You can also consider using the 'conservative' governor, that is
optimized for a battery powered environment and solves the problem of
the latency in transitions between maximum ad minimum frequency in
amd64 cpu's.



Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-19 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 11:05:20AM +0200, Frank wrote:
> Speaking of this, I have to add a short question: Does the ondemand governor 
> mean, that I do not need a userspace tool (like "powernowd") anymore for 
> scaling the processor frequency? Sounds like a much cleaner solution to me, 
> so if this is the case, I'd like to switch to it.

exactly.

Best regards
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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-19 Thread Frank
Am Donnerstag, 18. August 2005 20:42 schrieb Frederik Schueler:
> Yeah, I did something similar, additionally the initscript does a
>
> echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
>
> to make the fan shut up ;-)

Speaking of this, I have to add a short question: Does the ondemand governor 
mean, that I do not need a userspace tool (like "powernowd") anymore for 
scaling the processor frequency? Sounds like a much cleaner solution to me, 
so if this is the case, I'd like to switch to it.

Thanks,
Frank


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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-18 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 02:07:06PM +0200, Michelasso wrote:
> Did you also managed to have suspend to work? I have naively enabled
> it from the Kde Control Center > Laptop battery > Power Control
> window; but I couldn't wake up the laptop from the suspend state, the
> screen stays off and I am forced to
 
swsusp as in

echo shutdown > /sys/power/disk; echo disk > /sys/power/state

does work, but I need to ifdown eth0 and rmmod r8169 first otherwise I
have no network anymore after resuming. It complains about the USB1.1
controllers, too.

ACPI S3 does not work, S4 does (with the same restriction for eth0 as
swsusp), but breaks the console if called from X11 (and the flickering
does not look sane). S1 is not supported.


> I have found a workaround to this issue removing the psmouse entry
> from /etc/modules and creating  a small init.d script
 
Yeah, I did something similar, additionally the initscript does a

echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor

to make the fan shut up ;-)


Best regards
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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-18 Thread Theodore Kisner
On Thursday 18 August 2005 05:07, Michelasso wrote:
> ndiswrapper and the 64bit winxp drivers the card is recognized, but I
> cannot turn the radio on since the wifi  button in the front of the
> laptop has no effect in Linux.

Are you sure the button doesn't work?  On my compaq R3000 (athlon64) laptop, 
the button behaves differently with the 32bit windows driver and the 64bit 
one.  In 32bit debian with the 32bit windows driver under ndiswrapper, 
enabling the button turns on the wifi indicator light which then glows solid.  
With 64bit debian and the 64bit driver, pressing the button *does* change the 
state of the radio, but the indicator does not turn on.  When there is 
network traffic, the light flickers indicating traffic on the connection.  

So basically if I can't find the network, I push the button and try again.  
Actually I usually just leave it enabled anyway.  Another thing you could try 
is to boot into windows, enable the radio, and then reboot into linux and see 
if that works...

-Ted



Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-18 Thread Michelasso
On 8/17/05, Frederik Schueler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> a short update on the acer wmli5024:
> 
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:09:51PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
> > ACPI is a mess (no battery status! (great for a laptop) nor thermal,
> > only AC and buttons)
> 
> battery status works with 2.6.12.5 and the latest acpi patch found at
> http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/lenb/acpi/patches/release/2.6.12/acpi-20050729-2.6.12.patch.bz2
> 
> and temperatures too.

Did you also managed to have suspend to work? I have naively enabled
it from the Kde Control Center > Laptop battery > Power Control
window; but I couldn't wake up the laptop from the suspend state, the
screen stays off and I am forced to

> > the touchpad is only recognised after rmmodding and modprobing psmouse
> > again
> 
> problem still present.
> 

I have found a workaround to this issue removing the psmouse entry
from /etc/modules and creating  a small init.d script

#! /bin/sh
#
# synaptics Load the psmouse module
#

modprobe psmouse
-
and then linking it in the rc runlevels with number 90, so that the
module is loaded at the very end of the boot process.

I would like to ask if you have found a solution for the Broadcom
wireless card: with
ndiswrapper and the 64bit winxp drivers the card is recognized, but I
cannot turn the radio on since the wifi  button in the front of the
laptop has no effect in Linux.



Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-17 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

a short update on the acer wmli5024:

On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:09:51PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
> ACPI is a mess (no battery status! (great for a laptop) nor thermal, 
> only AC and buttons)

battery status works with 2.6.12.5 and the latest acpi patch found at
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/lenb/acpi/patches/release/2.6.12/acpi-20050729-2.6.12.patch.bz2

and temperatures too.

> the keyboard starts working after a few key strokes
 
one stroke, and it is recognised (with 2.6.12.5+acpi)

> the touchpad is only recognised after rmmodding and modprobing psmouse
> again

problem still present.

best regards
Frederik Schueler

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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-08-01 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Mahesh T. Pai said on Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 08:34:56AM +0530,:

 > Anybody knows what is required to install Debian AMD64 on on Acer
 > laptops with Turion processor?
 > 
 > A friend has been asking me for help; and will be doing it tomorrow; I
 > do not want to be embarassed if the installation fails. :-)
 
He reports  back that his  laptop rocks. I  have asked him to  fill in
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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-07-27 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 09:13:56AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> Which kernel has support for ATI chipsets if any?  Could be another good
> test case for my unofficial 2.6.12 amd64 sarge netinst image.
 
2.6.10+ do have support. 

> > In summary this thing was a mispurchase, the first and last time I bought
> > something ATI based.
 
> You mean you didn't know about ATI already?  It is very rare to see
> someone recomend ATI for linux use.  It is common to see people tell you
> to stay far away from it.  The drivers just aren't that good, if they
> exist at all.

Of course I know about the reputation ATI has got with their drivers.
But when I got the box, there was no other turion64 box with nvidia
graphics meeting my requirements.

Additionally, I wanted to look myself at the ATI drivers, they behave a 
lot like the first releases from nvidia 5 years ago, when they started 
supporting GNU/Linux. 

I can live with the ATI driver problems, but not with the insufficient 
ACPI implementation and the keyboard/mouse problems -- a laptop I cannot 
query about the battery status is pretty useless, when you are on the road.

Best regards
Frederik Schueler

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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-07-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:09:51PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
> I have an acer wmli5024 and hardware support is in pretty bad shape:
> 
> ACPI is a mess (no battery status! (great for a laptop) nor thermal, 
> only AC and buttons)
> 
> the keyboard starts working after a few key strokes
> 
> the touchpad is only recognised after rmmodding and modprobing psmouse
> again
> 
> the 2.6.8 based installer did not recognise the ati chipset, thus no UDMA
> (formatting 40G took one hour, installation was painfully slow with long
> disk sync intervals)
> 
> the ati X700 is not recognised by XFree86 4.3, you have to mess with
> proprietary drivers - or use latest Xorg from unstable (no 3D
> acceleration then, though).

Which kernel has support for ATI chipsets if any?  Could be another good
test case for my unofficial 2.6.12 amd64 sarge netinst image.

> In summary this thing was a mispurchase, the first and last time I bought
> something ATI based.

You mean you didn't know about ATI already?  It is very rare to see
someone recomend ATI for linux use.  It is common to see people tell you
to stay far away from it.  The drivers just aren't that good, if they
exist at all.

Len Sorensen


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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-07-27 Thread Clive Menzies
On (27/07/05 12:09), Frederik Schueler wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 08:34:56AM +0530, Mahesh T. Pai wrote:
> > Anybody  knows what is  required to  install Debian  AMD64 on  on Acer
> > laptops with Turion processor?
> > 
> > A friend has been asking me for help; and will be doing it tomorrow; I
> > do not want to be embarassed if the installation fails. :-)
> 
> I have an acer wmli5024 and hardware support is in pretty bad shape:
> 
> ACPI is a mess (no battery status! (great for a laptop) nor thermal, 
> only AC and buttons)
> 
> the keyboard starts working after a few key strokes
> 
> the touchpad is only recognised after rmmodding and modprobing psmouse
> again
> 
> the 2.6.8 based installer did not recognise the ati chipset, thus no UDMA
> (formatting 40G took one hour, installation was painfully slow with long
> disk sync intervals)
> 
> the ati X700 is not recognised by XFree86 4.3, you have to mess with
> proprietary drivers - or use latest Xorg from unstable (no 3D
> acceleration then, though).
> 
> 
> In summary this thing was a mispurchase, the first and last time I bought
> something ATI based.

Well my partner has a 2003WLMi (Centrino) and I've got a 1524WLMi
(AMD64) and they are both running 'sid'; most things work except for
those I haven't got around to configuring.  Have you tried running
Ubuntu or something similar on it?

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Re: Acer Turion laptops

2005-07-27 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hallo,

On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 08:34:56AM +0530, Mahesh T. Pai wrote:
> Anybody  knows what is  required to  install Debian  AMD64 on  on Acer
> laptops with Turion processor?
> 
> A friend has been asking me for help; and will be doing it tomorrow; I
> do not want to be embarassed if the installation fails. :-)

I have an acer wmli5024 and hardware support is in pretty bad shape:

ACPI is a mess (no battery status! (great for a laptop) nor thermal, 
only AC and buttons)

the keyboard starts working after a few key strokes

the touchpad is only recognised after rmmodding and modprobing psmouse
again

the 2.6.8 based installer did not recognise the ati chipset, thus no UDMA
(formatting 40G took one hour, installation was painfully slow with long
disk sync intervals)

the ati X700 is not recognised by XFree86 4.3, you have to mess with
proprietary drivers - or use latest Xorg from unstable (no 3D
acceleration then, though).


In summary this thing was a mispurchase, the first and last time I bought
something ATI based.

Best regards
Frederik Schueler

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Acer Turion laptops

2005-07-26 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Anybody  knows what is  required to  install Debian  AMD64 on  on Acer
laptops with Turion processor?

A friend has been asking me for help; and will be doing it tomorrow; I
do not want to be embarassed if the installation fails. :-)

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