Re: Building an useful list to keep an eye on when migrating from i386

2005-08-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jonathan ILIAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thanks to you and Lennart for this great help.

 Now I've discovered stinkypete. By the way, anybody knows another
 amd64 apt repository (unofficial) ?

backports.debian.net

They are starting up again for sarge now that glibc in sid prevents
just using sid debs.

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Re: Building an useful list to keep an eye on when migrating from i386

2005-08-22 Thread Jonathan ILIAS

Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :

backports.debian.net

They are starting up again for sarge now that glibc in sid prevents
just using sid debs.


Thank you, i'll keep an eye on this. But it seems the domain name is 
misconfigured :

$ host backports.debian.net
Host backports.debian.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

Or i have a problem ?

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Re: Building an useful list to keep an eye on when migrating from i386

2005-08-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jonathan ILIAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
 backports.debian.net
 They are starting up again for sarge now that glibc in sid prevents
 just using sid debs.

 Thank you, i'll keep an eye on this. But it seems the domain name is
 misconfigured :
 $ host backports.debian.net
 Host backports.debian.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

 Or i have a problem ?

Hmm, I thought they had a debian.net domain.

backports.org exists though.

MfG
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Re: Building an useful list to keep an eye on when migrating from i386

2005-08-21 Thread Jonathan ILIAS

Thanks to you and Lennart for this great help.

Now I've discovered stinkypete. By the way, anybody knows another amd64 
apt repository (unofficial) ?


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Building an useful list to keep an eye on when migrating from i386

2005-08-18 Thread ismael
Hi,

I was looking for this information, maybe this trick will be useful for
someone (or maybe there is an easier way to do it).

I wished to know exactly which packages installed on my i386 Debian would
not be available on a newly installed amd64 Debian.

First, from your i386 Debian, make a raw list of installed packages. I do
that like this :
$ dpkg --get-selections | sed -e '/\tinstall/!d ; s/^\([^\t]*\).*/\1/' 
i386_debian_pkg_list.txt

Next, from your amd64 Debian, make a raw list of available packages. You
can do like this :
$ apt-cache dumpavail | sed -e '/^Package:/!d ; s/^Package: \(.*\)/\1/' 
amd64_debian_avail_list.txt

Then, get the list of packages you won't be able to install :
$ cat i386_debian_pkg_list.txt amd64_debian_avail_list.txt
amd64_debian_avail_list.txt | sort | uniq -u


Great, I only have 200 packages that I won't be able to install on my new
amd64 system, in which 133 packages have been manually installed or
obsoleted on my i386 Debian. In the 67 packages leaving, I see only 3~4
packets for which I would make a 32 bits chroot. Quite enjoying :)

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Re: Building an useful list to keep an eye on when migrating from i386

2005-08-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 I was looking for this information, maybe this trick will be useful for
 someone (or maybe there is an easier way to do it).

 I wished to know exactly which packages installed on my i386 Debian would
 not be available on a newly installed amd64 Debian.

 First, from your i386 Debian, make a raw list of installed packages. I do
 that like this :
 $ dpkg --get-selections | sed -e '/\tinstall/!d ; s/^\([^\t]*\).*/\1/' 
 i386_debian_pkg_list.txt

 Next, from your amd64 Debian, make a raw list of available packages. You
 can do like this :
 $ apt-cache dumpavail | sed -e '/^Package:/!d ; s/^Package: \(.*\)/\1/' 
 amd64_debian_avail_list.txt

I find grep-dctrl is better suited for this:

apt-cache dumpavail | grep-dctrl  -n -s Package

or if you don't have amd64 installed just:

grep-dctrl  -n -s Package dists/sarge/main/binary-amd64/Packages

 Then, get the list of packages you won't be able to install :
 $ cat i386_debian_pkg_list.txt amd64_debian_avail_list.txt
 amd64_debian_avail_list.txt | sort | uniq -u


 Great, I only have 200 packages that I won't be able to install on my new
 amd64 system, in which 133 packages have been manually installed or
 obsoleted on my i386 Debian. In the 67 packages leaving, I see only 3~4
 packets for which I would make a 32 bits chroot. Quite enjoying :)

May I ask what those 3~4 packages are?

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Goswin


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Re: Building an useful list to keep an eye on when migrating from i386

2005-08-18 Thread Jonathan ILIAS

Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :

I find grep-dctrl is better suited for this:

apt-cache dumpavail | grep-dctrl  -n -s Package

Thanks, I'll make use of this now :)


I see only 3~4 packets for which I would make a 32 bits chroot. Quite enjoying 
:)


May I ask what those 3~4 packages are?


Yes. Here they are.

Note that I do not take care about non-official packages in the list.

- openoffice
- cdrdao
- dvd-slideshow
- free-pascal compiler (and all packages that belongs)
- unrar
- arch/tla

Ooops, I count 6 ;) but over 2117 packages installed, it's really low !

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Re: Building an useful list to keep an eye on when migrating from i386

2005-08-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:03:02PM +0200, Jonathan ILIAS wrote:
 Goswin von Brederlow a ?crit :
 Yes. Here they are.
 
 Note that I do not take care about non-official packages in the list.
 
 - openoffice

Broken 32bit only code. :(

 - cdrdao

There is a patch in the BTS for cdrdao to make it compile on amd64.
Easy to make a package for it that way.

No idea why the maintainer of the package doesn't have any interest in
applying the patch given it patches the libscsi code in exactly the same
way it is done in cdrecord with the same lib code.

Weird.

 - dvd-slideshow

No clue.

 - free-pascal compiler (and all packages that belongs)

No clue.

 - unrar

Hmm, no idea.  It is non-free after all.

 - arch/tla

Never heard of that one.

 Ooops, I count 6 ;) but over 2117 packages installed, it's really low !

Len Sorensen


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Re: Building an useful list to keep an eye on when migrating from i386

2005-08-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
  $ apt-cache dumpavail | sed -e '/^Package:/!d ; s/^Package: \(.*\)/\1/' 
  amd64_debian_avail_list.txt
 
 I find grep-dctrl is better suited for this:
 
 apt-cache dumpavail | grep-dctrl  -n -s Package

You can save a small amount of typing by using grep-available.

  grep-available  -n -s Package

   The programs grep-available and grep-status are aliases of
   (actually, symbolic links to) grep-dctrl.  In the shipped
   configuration, these aliases use as their default input file
   the dpkg(8) available and status files, respectively.

Bob


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Re: Building an useful list to keep an eye on when migrating from i386

2005-08-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jonathan ILIAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
 I find grep-dctrl is better suited for this:
 apt-cache dumpavail | grep-dctrl  -n -s Package
 Thanks, I'll make use of this now :)

I see only 3~4 packets for which I would make a 32 bits chroot. Quite 
enjoying :)
 May I ask what those 3~4 packages are?

 Yes. Here they are.

 Note that I do not take care about non-official packages in the list.

 - openoffice
 - cdrdao

Available in stinkypete / sarge-unsupported.

 - dvd-slideshow
 - free-pascal compiler (and all packages that belongs)
 - unrar
 - arch/tla

Use bazaar?

 Ooops, I count 6 ;) but over 2117 packages installed, it's really low !

MfG
Goswin


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