Re: How to get a new palo source package into unstable?

2014-02-27 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Helge!

On 01/11/2014 10:37 PM, Helge Deller wrote:
> Since I'm not a debian-developer, I don't know how to get this package into 
> debian unstable again.
> What is the usual process to get a new/old package back into debian unstable? 
> Maybe someone of you who has a debian developer rights is willing to upload 
> the 
> source package?

I'm mostly finished with palo now. I converted the package to the
latest debhelper format, reformatted the copyright file to the new
1.0 format (still need to some missing copyright holders and
verify the license is correct for all source files). I also
added a README.source to explain what happened with palo after
version 1.16.

The remaining things are cleaning up the changelog, removing
other cruft and updating files like README.Debian.

Hope to get it finished by the weekend. I will send you the
patches, have you ACK them and upload on Saturday or Sunday.

Adrian

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Re: How to get a new palo source package into unstable?

2014-01-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Helge!

On 01/12/2014 10:36 PM, Helge Deller wrote:
>> Indeed. Congratulations on that! I'm glad to see the HPPA port coming
>> back to life. I'd love to test it myself, but the only PA-RISC machine
>> that I currently know of which is in my vicinity is located inside a
>> laboratory at my physics department and it's still running HP-UX.
>> Might be that it gets scrapped soon and replaced with something more
>> fancy so that I can get hold of it, who knows ;).
> 
> Good thing is, that those machines got pretty cheap now.
> A Dualcore-C8000 workstation is available on ebay for < 100 EUR.

If just had enough room. There are already too many Amigas taking
up my space :). Still, I like to support the port as much as I
can.

>> I'm a Debian Developer with full upload permissions to the archive and
>> would absolutely love to help you get the boot loader (and any other
>> possibly necessary packages) back into Debian.
> 
> Thanks!
> AFAIK the bootloader is the only package which is parisc specific.

Ok, good to know.

>> The best is to have the package(s) uploaded to Debian Mentors [1] so I
>> can grab them from there and review them, send you suggestions on
>> improving them and finally upload them.
> 
> I uploaded it, and CC'ed you on the request.
> http://mentors.debian.net/package/palo
> The info at top of the website is the latest package with most warnings fixed.
> It would be nice if you could help me (off-list) further on that.

Will do! I'll answer your separate mail later!

>> Plus, it would be nice to have access to a PA-RISC machine myself so I
>> can perform a test build and inspect the finished package. Would that
>> be possible?
> 
> Sure, I'll send you login details off-list.
> If other people here on the list want access, please let me know.

Thanks, got them. Will change the password and install my SSH key ASAP.

> We had problems with sending mails from the buildds when I started the 
> buildds mid december.
> Currently we have 5 buildds running:
> http://unstable.buildd.net/index-hppa.html
> Since around 2-3 weeks, all buildds except mx3210 do send build logs.

Ah, glad to hear it has been fixed. Then there's nothing I am worrying
about. Are you working together with Ingo Juergensmann to update the
buildd status information on buildd.net?

> I can reschedule a rebuild of radeontop for you, or you can just build it
> yourself on the machine for which I send you a login. Just let me know.

Don't worry about radeontop. I just picked that package as an example to
check whether the build logs are still missing or not. This is one of
my own packages and the last upload was just done a few weeks ago, so
I thought I might check this one to see whether the problem has already
been addressed.

But when you say the logs are properly uploaded now, I'm happy. So,
please don't reschedule the package, it will updated in the very
near future anyway.

Adrian

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Re: How to get a new palo source package into unstable?

2014-01-12 Thread Helge Deller
Hi Adrian,

On 01/12/2014 05:32 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:37:52PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
>> as you might have noticed, we did huge progress on the HPPA (PA-RISC) port:
>> http://buildd.debian-ports.org/stats/
> 
> Indeed. Congratulations on that! I'm glad to see the HPPA port coming
> back to life. I'd love to test it myself, but the only PA-RISC machine
> that I currently know of which is in my vicinity is located inside a
> laboratory at my physics department and it's still running HP-UX.
> Might be that it gets scrapped soon and replaced with something more
> fancy so that I can get hold of it, who knows ;).

Good thing is, that those machines got pretty cheap now.
A Dualcore-C8000 workstation is available on ebay for < 100 EUR.

>> In order to be able to boot parisc machines, the hppa port needs the "palo" 
>> debian package.
>> "PALO" is the "PA-RISC boot loader" and a boot-loader-image generator, 
>> similar to 
>> "lilo" on i386 or "silo" on sparc.
> 
> Or "aboot" on the Alpha machines.
> 
>> I've continued to maintain and further develop palo.
>> The new palo git repository is now at:
>> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/deller/palo.git
>> and the source should compile and run on all plattforms.
>> A simple checkout and dpkg-buildpackage should work.
> 
> Thank you very much for doing this (and the hard work of bringing the
> buildds back to life). Even though I currently don't own a PA-RISC
> machine, I'm very glad that someone took care of it, such that owners
> of these machines can still use it with a current Debian release.
> 
>> Since I'm not a debian-developer, I don't know how to get this package into 
>> debian unstable again.
>> What is the usual process to get a new/old package back into debian 
>> unstable? 
>> Maybe someone of you who has a debian developer rights is willing to upload 
>> the 
>> source package?
> 
> I'm a Debian Developer with full upload permissions to the archive and
> would absolutely love to help you get the boot loader (and any other
> possibly necessary packages) back into Debian.

Thanks!
AFAIK the bootloader is the only package which is parisc specific.

> The best is to have the package(s) uploaded to Debian Mentors [1] so I
> can grab them from there and review them, send you suggestions on
> improving them and finally upload them.

I uploaded it, and CC'ed you on the request.
http://mentors.debian.net/package/palo
The info at top of the website is the latest package with most warnings fixed.
It would be nice if you could help me (off-list) further on that.

> Plus, it would be nice to have access to a PA-RISC machine myself so I
> can perform a test build and inspect the finished package. Would that
> be possible?

Sure, I'll send you login details off-list.
If other people here on the list want access, please let me know.
 
> PS: I have noticed that the HPPA builds never include the build log,
> for example radeontop [2]. Would it be possible to have these
> enabled as well, so we can easily find out what went wrong when a
> build failed?

We had problems with sending mails from the buildds when I started the buildds 
mid december.
Currently we have 5 buildds running:
http://unstable.buildd.net/index-hppa.html
Since around 2-3 weeks, all buildds except mx3210 do send build logs.

I can reschedule a rebuild of radeontop for you, or you can just build it
yourself on the machine for which I send you a login. Just let me know.

Thanks!
Helge


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Re: How to get a new palo source package into unstable?

2014-01-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Helge!

On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:37:52PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
> as you might have noticed, we did huge progress on the HPPA (PA-RISC) port:
> http://buildd.debian-ports.org/stats/

Indeed. Congratulations on that! I'm glad to see the HPPA port coming
back to life. I'd love to test it myself, but the only PA-RISC machine
that I currently know of which is in my vicinity is located inside a
laboratory at my physics department and it's still running HP-UX.
Might be that it gets scrapped soon and replaced with something more
fancy so that I can get hold of it, who knows ;).

> In order to be able to boot parisc machines, the hppa port needs the "palo" 
> debian package.
> "PALO" is the "PA-RISC boot loader" and a boot-loader-image generator, 
> similar to 
> "lilo" on i386 or "silo" on sparc.

Or "aboot" on the Alpha machines.

> I've continued to maintain and further develop palo.
> The new palo git repository is now at:
> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/deller/palo.git
> and the source should compile and run on all plattforms.
> A simple checkout and dpkg-buildpackage should work.

Thank you very much for doing this (and the hard work of bringing the
buildds back to life). Even though I currently don't own a PA-RISC
machine, I'm very glad that someone took care of it, such that owners
of these machines can still use it with a current Debian release.

> Since I'm not a debian-developer, I don't know how to get this package into 
> debian unstable again.
> What is the usual process to get a new/old package back into debian unstable? 
> Maybe someone of you who has a debian developer rights is willing to upload 
> the 
> source package?

I'm a Debian Developer with full upload permissions to the archive and
would absolutely love to help you get the boot loader (and any other
possibly necessary packages) back into Debian.

The best is to have the package(s) uploaded to Debian Mentors [1] so I
can grab them from there and review them, send you suggestions on
improving them and finally upload them.

Plus, it would be nice to have access to a PA-RISC machine myself so I
can perform a test build and inspect the finished package. Would that
be possible?

PS: I have noticed that the HPPA builds never include the build log,
for example radeontop [2]. Would it be possible to have these
enabled as well, so we can easily find out what went wrong when a
build failed?

Cheers,

Adrian

> [1] http://mentors.debian.net/
> [2] http://buildd.debian-ports.org/status/package.php?p=radeontop&suite=sid

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How to get a new palo source package into unstable?

2014-01-11 Thread Helge Deller
Hello everyone,

as you might have noticed, we did huge progress on the HPPA (PA-RISC) port:
http://buildd.debian-ports.org/stats/

In order to be able to boot parisc machines, the hppa port needs the "palo" 
debian package.
"PALO" is the "PA-RISC boot loader" and a boot-loader-image generator, similar 
to 
"lilo" on i386 or "silo" on sparc.

palo has been part of the debian repository when parisc was still a 
fully-supported 
debian architecture, but was dropped when debian 6.0 was released.

I've continued to maintain and further develop palo.
The new palo git repository is now at:
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/deller/palo.git
and the source should compile and run on all plattforms.
A simple checkout and dpkg-buildpackage should work.

Since I'm not a debian-developer, I don't know how to get this package into 
debian unstable again.
What is the usual process to get a new/old package back into debian unstable? 
Maybe someone of you who has a debian developer rights is willing to upload the 
source package?

Any help would be great!

Thanks,
Helge Deller


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