Re: Mobo Intel DG965WH with Lenny or etch?
Hi, I guess we found a better one, for AMD X2 , it's a MSI k9n sli platinum. And it just look really good. everything worked with etch. Igor> Hi, thanks for your answer.. , we are looking for another mobo :) Igor> Igor> Lennart> On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:07:20AM -0500, Igor TAmara wrote: Igor> Lennart> > Hi, I have an Intel DG965WH, I tried to use etch netinst and lenny Igor> Lennart> > businesscard october 6 /2007, but both of them failed on the step of Igor> Lennart> > CD recognition, it has two SATA HD drives, the DVD is connected Igor> Lennart> > through IDE, the processor is an Intel core 2 Duo. It has 4 gigs of Igor> Lennart> > RAM Igor> Lennart> > Igor> Lennart> > The most annoying thing is that it boots really slow, it looks like Igor> Lennart> > slow motion, the menus of the installation shows line per line Igor> Lennart> > refreshing, like a 133mhz or worst. Igor> Lennart> > Igor> Lennart> > Have anyone succesfully used this hardware? Any hints on booting the Igor> Lennart> > installation or maybe testing the hardware to see if something is Igor> Lennart> > broken? Maybe software to test if everything is right? Igor> Lennart> Igor> Lennart> How much ram do you have installed? Igor> Lennart> Igor> Lennart> A number of BIOSes have very very serious bugs in their MTRR setup on Igor> Lennart> intel chipsets lately, and if you have more than 3GB of ram, some memory Igor> Lennart> may not be configured as cacheable, and since linux likes to use ram Igor> Lennart> from the top down you end up with the kernel in uncacheable ram and Igor> Lennart> hence very slow booting. For many boards there are updated bioses to Igor> Lennart> fix this mistake, but if there isn't yet you can tell the kernel at the Igor> Lennart> boot command line that you have less ram than you actually have which Igor> Lennart> will make it go much faster (since the small bit of uncached ram will Igor> Lennart> not be used). Since you have 4GB of ram this is quite likely your Igor> Lennart> problem. So check that you have the very latest BIOS version. You can Igor> Lennart> test for the problem by adding 'mem=3072M' or 2048M or whatever, and see Igor> Lennart> if it boots faster. If it does you can then grab the /proc/mtrr output Igor> Lennart> as well as the dmesg output and post that to have someone check if the Igor> Lennart> bios is making a mistake. Igor> Lennart> Igor> Lennart> A search on some forums seems to indicate that intel's 1705 bios does Igor> Lennart> not fix it, and that people are going back to version 1669 to get a bios Igor> Lennart> that does the right thing (who knows what it may break though). There Igor> Lennart> is a 1707 that I haven't found any info on yet, so maybe there is a Igor> Lennart> small chance it fixes the problem. Most other board makers have fixed Igor> Lennart> this error by now (Asus and Gigabyte certainly have), while the kernel Igor> Lennart> developers have had no luck what so ever convincing intel that they Igor> Lennart> screwed up big time. Igor> Lennart> Igor> Lennart> There are attemps being made to make future kernels automatically Igor> Lennart> disable any uncached ram if such a case occours again. Igor> Lennart> Igor> Lennart> AS for the DVD others seem to have pointed out that it uses an Igor> Lennart> unsupported controller that needs the newer kernel so you can't help Igor> Lennart> that with etch at all. Igor> Lennart> Igor> Lennart> -- Igor> Lennart> Len Sorensen Igor> Lennart> Igor> Lennart> Igor> Lennart> -- Igor> Lennart> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Igor> Lennart> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Igor> Lennart> Igor> Igor> -- Igor> Recomiendo Debian, la mejor distribución Linux Igor> http://www.debian.org -- Recomiendo Debian, la mejor distribución Linux http://www.debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mobo Intel DG965WH with Lenny or etch?
Hi, thanks for your answer.. , we are looking for another mobo :) Lennart> On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:07:20AM -0500, Igor TAmara wrote: Lennart> > Hi, I have an Intel DG965WH, I tried to use etch netinst and lenny Lennart> > businesscard october 6 /2007, but both of them failed on the step of Lennart> > CD recognition, it has two SATA HD drives, the DVD is connected Lennart> > through IDE, the processor is an Intel core 2 Duo. It has 4 gigs of Lennart> > RAM Lennart> > Lennart> > The most annoying thing is that it boots really slow, it looks like Lennart> > slow motion, the menus of the installation shows line per line Lennart> > refreshing, like a 133mhz or worst. Lennart> > Lennart> > Have anyone succesfully used this hardware? Any hints on booting the Lennart> > installation or maybe testing the hardware to see if something is Lennart> > broken? Maybe software to test if everything is right? Lennart> Lennart> How much ram do you have installed? Lennart> Lennart> A number of BIOSes have very very serious bugs in their MTRR setup on Lennart> intel chipsets lately, and if you have more than 3GB of ram, some memory Lennart> may not be configured as cacheable, and since linux likes to use ram Lennart> from the top down you end up with the kernel in uncacheable ram and Lennart> hence very slow booting. For many boards there are updated bioses to Lennart> fix this mistake, but if there isn't yet you can tell the kernel at the Lennart> boot command line that you have less ram than you actually have which Lennart> will make it go much faster (since the small bit of uncached ram will Lennart> not be used). Since you have 4GB of ram this is quite likely your Lennart> problem. So check that you have the very latest BIOS version. You can Lennart> test for the problem by adding 'mem=3072M' or 2048M or whatever, and see Lennart> if it boots faster. If it does you can then grab the /proc/mtrr output Lennart> as well as the dmesg output and post that to have someone check if the Lennart> bios is making a mistake. Lennart> Lennart> A search on some forums seems to indicate that intel's 1705 bios does Lennart> not fix it, and that people are going back to version 1669 to get a bios Lennart> that does the right thing (who knows what it may break though). There Lennart> is a 1707 that I haven't found any info on yet, so maybe there is a Lennart> small chance it fixes the problem. Most other board makers have fixed Lennart> this error by now (Asus and Gigabyte certainly have), while the kernel Lennart> developers have had no luck what so ever convincing intel that they Lennart> screwed up big time. Lennart> Lennart> There are attemps being made to make future kernels automatically Lennart> disable any uncached ram if such a case occours again. Lennart> Lennart> AS for the DVD others seem to have pointed out that it uses an Lennart> unsupported controller that needs the newer kernel so you can't help Lennart> that with etch at all. Lennart> Lennart> -- Lennart> Len Sorensen Lennart> Lennart> Lennart> -- Lennart> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lennart> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lennart> -- Recomiendo Debian, la mejor distribución Linux http://www.debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mobo Intel DG965WH with Lenny or etch?
On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:07:20AM -0500, Igor TAmara wrote: > Hi, I have an Intel DG965WH, I tried to use etch netinst and lenny > businesscard october 6 /2007, but both of them failed on the step of > CD recognition, it has two SATA HD drives, the DVD is connected > through IDE, the processor is an Intel core 2 Duo. It has 4 gigs of > RAM > > The most annoying thing is that it boots really slow, it looks like > slow motion, the menus of the installation shows line per line > refreshing, like a 133mhz or worst. > > Have anyone succesfully used this hardware? Any hints on booting the > installation or maybe testing the hardware to see if something is > broken? Maybe software to test if everything is right? How much ram do you have installed? A number of BIOSes have very very serious bugs in their MTRR setup on intel chipsets lately, and if you have more than 3GB of ram, some memory may not be configured as cacheable, and since linux likes to use ram from the top down you end up with the kernel in uncacheable ram and hence very slow booting. For many boards there are updated bioses to fix this mistake, but if there isn't yet you can tell the kernel at the boot command line that you have less ram than you actually have which will make it go much faster (since the small bit of uncached ram will not be used). Since you have 4GB of ram this is quite likely your problem. So check that you have the very latest BIOS version. You can test for the problem by adding 'mem=3072M' or 2048M or whatever, and see if it boots faster. If it does you can then grab the /proc/mtrr output as well as the dmesg output and post that to have someone check if the bios is making a mistake. A search on some forums seems to indicate that intel's 1705 bios does not fix it, and that people are going back to version 1669 to get a bios that does the right thing (who knows what it may break though). There is a 1707 that I haven't found any info on yet, so maybe there is a small chance it fixes the problem. Most other board makers have fixed this error by now (Asus and Gigabyte certainly have), while the kernel developers have had no luck what so ever convincing intel that they screwed up big time. There are attemps being made to make future kernels automatically disable any uncached ram if such a case occours again. AS for the DVD others seem to have pointed out that it uses an unsupported controller that needs the newer kernel so you can't help that with etch at all. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mobo Intel DG965WH with Lenny or etch?
Hi, thanks for the suggestions I booted from a USB stick with 2.6.21 and it worked, but it's really, really slow, the install took more than a hour for just putting the kernel, it has taken hours on a dual core 2 duo of 2ghz, Could it be due to the framebuffer? I will continue with the install, what should I look at to see if the performance can be improved. Thanks :) Rob> On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 05:01:06PM +, Jack Malmostoso wrote: Rob> > > Have anyone succesfully used this hardware? Any hints on booting the Rob> > > installation or maybe testing the hardware to see if something is Rob> > > broken? Maybe software to test if everything is right? Rob> > Rob> > You should probably go with one of the latest daily builds of the Rob> > installer with kernel 2.6.22. Alternatively, check that in the BIOS the Rob> > SATA channels are set in "compatibility mode" as opposed to "AHCI" mode. Rob> > In "compatibility mode" you should be able to install Etch without Rob> > problems. On first boot, add the backports repository and then install a Rob> > newer kernel (2.6.22 will do). Go back to the BIOS and put the hard Rob> > drives back in "AHCI" and you should not have any problems. Rob> Rob> > Still applies if you have an infamous jmicron controller. Rob> Rob> The compat mode won't work to solve this issue. The DVD is connected to Rob> a Marvell controller unsupported by 2.6.18. To top things off, 2.6.18 Rob> won't talk to the on-board ethernet. Rob> Rob> Follow the first suggestion - use a newer installer. I ended up doing a Rob> network boot installation, which let me replace the kernel more Rob> trivially than building my own installer image (nothing newer than Rob> 2.6.18 was available at the time). Rob> Rob> I had to use the i810-modesetting driver to get video to work, but I Rob> think that may have just been obsoleted in unstable. Rob> -- Rob> Rob -- Recomiendo SLEC, la comunidad del software de libre redistribución y educación en Colombia http://www.slec.net signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mobo Intel DG965WH with Lenny or etch?
On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 05:01:06PM +, Jack Malmostoso wrote: > > Have anyone succesfully used this hardware? Any hints on booting the > > installation or maybe testing the hardware to see if something is > > broken? Maybe software to test if everything is right? > > You should probably go with one of the latest daily builds of the > installer with kernel 2.6.22. Alternatively, check that in the BIOS the > SATA channels are set in "compatibility mode" as opposed to "AHCI" mode. > In "compatibility mode" you should be able to install Etch without > problems. On first boot, add the backports repository and then install a > newer kernel (2.6.22 will do). Go back to the BIOS and put the hard > drives back in "AHCI" and you should not have any problems. > Still applies if you have an infamous jmicron controller. The compat mode won't work to solve this issue. The DVD is connected to a Marvell controller unsupported by 2.6.18. To top things off, 2.6.18 won't talk to the on-board ethernet. Follow the first suggestion - use a newer installer. I ended up doing a network boot installation, which let me replace the kernel more trivially than building my own installer image (nothing newer than 2.6.18 was available at the time). I had to use the i810-modesetting driver to get video to work, but I think that may have just been obsoleted in unstable. -- Rob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mobo Intel DG965WH with Lenny or etch?
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:10:09 +0200, Igor TAmara wrote: > Have anyone succesfully used this hardware? Any hints on booting the > installation or maybe testing the hardware to see if something is > broken? Maybe software to test if everything is right? You should probably go with one of the latest daily builds of the installer with kernel 2.6.22. Alternatively, check that in the BIOS the SATA channels are set in "compatibility mode" as opposed to "AHCI" mode. In "compatibility mode" you should be able to install Etch without problems. On first boot, add the backports repository and then install a newer kernel (2.6.22 will do). Go back to the BIOS and put the hard drives back in "AHCI" and you should not have any problems. Still applies if you have an infamous jmicron controller. -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mobo Intel DG965WH with Lenny or etch?
Hi, I have an Intel DG965WH, I tried to use etch netinst and lenny businesscard october 6 /2007, but both of them failed on the step of CD recognition, it has two SATA HD drives, the DVD is connected through IDE, the processor is an Intel core 2 Duo. It has 4 gigs of RAM The most annoying thing is that it boots really slow, it looks like slow motion, the menus of the installation shows line per line refreshing, like a 133mhz or worst. Have anyone succesfully used this hardware? Any hints on booting the installation or maybe testing the hardware to see if something is broken? Maybe software to test if everything is right? Thanks in advance. -- Recomiendo Openoffice.org como herramienta de ofimática http://www.openoffice.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
