Re: New Debian User needs an idea

2007-12-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 01:07:09AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks all for the good info. My problem with gcc was that I jumped to the 
> conclusion that "extra" software would be on the 2nd or 3rd disk. I tried apt 
> again and this time mounted the first disk and there it is. I think I will 
> find 
> the headers now that I see they are called linux-headers rather that 
> kernel-headers. This should allow getting ndiswrapper up and getting to the 
> web.

They used to be named kernel-headers, but the debian freebsd and hurd
guys objected (quite validly too) that it should be more specific.  So
it bacame linux-headers and linux-image instead of kernel-headers and
kernel-image.

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Re: New Debian User needs an idea

2007-12-04 Thread jim-bean
Thanks all for the good info. My problem with gcc was that I jumped to the 
conclusion that "extra" software would be on the 2nd or 3rd disk. I tried apt 
again and this time mounted the first disk and there it is. I think I will find 
the headers now that I see they are called linux-headers rather that 
kernel-headers. This should allow getting ndiswrapper up and getting to the web.
Thanks again.
regards Jim Bean 



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> Hello all,
> I am a fairly experienced Fedora user trying out Debian for the first time. I 
> have a 3 disk distribution from Linux Central and I can get it to install and 
> boot to a command line. The installer uses only the first disk. My problem is 
> that I can't bring up the GUI. I have a driver for the video card but in 
> order 
> to install it gcc and the kernel headers are required, and missing. Also my 
> only 
> web source is via a wireless, which needs to be configured with ndiswrapper. 
> This requires, guess what, gcc and the kernel headers so I can't download 
> them. 
> I tried aptitude and it requests a disk be mounted but it is not any of the 
> disks that I have. I suspect that gcc is hiding on one of the disks I have if 
> only I knew how to get to it. Ideas?
> The computer is dual booted so I could use the Fedora side to download and 
> copy 
> over.
> Jim Bean
> 
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Re: New Debian User needs an idea

2007-12-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 02:49:20AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am a fairly experienced Fedora user trying out Debian for the first time. I 
> have a 3 disk distribution from Linux Central and I can get it to install and 
> boot to a command line. The installer uses only the first disk. My problem is 
> that I can't bring up the GUI. I have a driver for the video card but in 
> order to install it gcc and the kernel headers are required, and missing. 
> Also my only web source is via a wireless, which needs to be configured with 
> ndiswrapper. This requires, guess what, gcc and the kernel headers so I can't 
> download them. I tried aptitude and it requests a disk be mounted but it is 
> not any of the disks that I have. I suspect that gcc is hiding on one of the 
> disks I have if only I knew how to get to it. Ideas?
> The computer is dual booted so I could use the Fedora side to download and 
> copy over.

Is it a 3 DVD set or what?  I have never seen a 3 CD set of debian.
Which version?

If you have the DVD set you should have everything you need.

To get kernel headers and compiler and such
apt-get install linux-headers-2.6-amd64 build-essential

To install kde do:
apt-get install kde

To get gnome do:
apt-get install gnome

Or you can run tasksel to install the 'desktop' task (which usually is
the default on an Etch install I thought).

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Re: New Debian User needs an idea

2007-12-04 Thread cbergmann
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 03:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello all,
> I am a fairly experienced Fedora user trying out Debian for the first time.
> I have a 3 disk distribution from Linux Central and I can get it to install
> and boot to a command line. The installer uses only the first disk. My
> problem is that I can't bring up the GUI. I have a driver for the video
> card but in order to install it gcc and the kernel headers are required,
> and missing. Also my only web source is via a wireless, which needs to be
> configured with ndiswrapper. This requires, guess what, gcc and the kernel
> headers so I can't download them. I tried aptitude and it requests a disk
> be mounted but it is not any of the disks that I have. I suspect that gcc
> is hiding on one of the disks I have if only I knew how to get to it.
> Ideas? The computer is dual booted so I could use the Fedora side to
> download and copy over. Jim Bean

Hi Jim,

- Xorg (GUI) should at least work with the vesa driver, which supports most 
video cards (albeit at reduced resolution and without 3D support). You can  
switch over to your dedicated driver (nvidia, ati, intel ...) after its 
installation.

- This would indeed be the first Debian "distribution" lacking gcc. Check if 
your 3 disks are all registered in /etc/apt/sources.list. If not, add your 
disks using the command apt-cdrom add (I haven't done this for years, as I 
always install from the internet, so I can't give you the exact details; 
however, the process should be fairly self-explanatory).

Regards, Clemens

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Re: New Debian User needs an idea

2007-12-03 Thread Corey Hickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello all, I am a fairly experienced Fedora user trying out Debian
> for the first time. I have a 3 disk distribution from Linux Central
> and I can get it to install and boot to a command line. The installer
> uses only the first disk. My problem is that I can't bring up the
> GUI. I have a driver for the video card but in order to install it
> gcc and the kernel headers are required, and missing. Also my only
> web source is via a wireless, which needs to be configured with
> ndiswrapper. This requires, guess what, gcc and the kernel headers so
> I can't download them. I tried aptitude and it requests a disk be
> mounted but it is not any of the disks that I have. I suspect that
> gcc is hiding on one of the disks I have if only I knew how to get to
> it. Ideas? The computer is dual booted so I could use the Fedora side
> to download and copy over. Jim Bean

You can try this; some commands may need to be adapted.

1. boot fedora
2. get Internet access working if it isn't already
3: run something like this:
   mkdir /mnt/debian
   mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/debian  # replace /dev/sda2 as needed
   mount -t proc proc /mnt/debian/proc  # maybe not needed
   mount --bind /dev /mnt/debian/dev# maybe not needed
   chroot /mnt/debian
4. make sure Internet access works from within the chroot
5. use the chrooted shell to do whatever you need to do

Good luck,
Corey


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Re: New Debian User needs an idea

2007-12-03 Thread C Wakefield
OnDecember 3, 2007 06:49:20 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello all,
> I am a fairly experienced Fedora user trying out Debian for the first time.
> I have a 3 disk distribution from Linux Central and I can get it to install
> and boot to a command line. The installer uses only the first disk. My
> problem is that I can't bring up the GUI. I have a driver for the video
> card but in order to install it gcc and the kernel headers are required,
> and missing. Also my only web source is via a wireless, which needs to be
> configured with ndiswrapper. This requires, guess what, gcc and the kernel
> headers so I can't download them. I tried aptitude and it requests a disk
> be mounted but it is not any of the disks that I have. I suspect that gcc
> is hiding on one of the disks I have if only I knew how to get to it.
> Ideas? The computer is dual booted so I could use the Fedora side to
> download and copy over. Jim Bean
Hi Jim.

I think this would be easier if you got your wireless up and running first.
There was a thread on this list serv last week or recently anyway, explaining 
how to get wireless working.  If you search here:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/

Chris W.


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New Debian User needs an idea

2007-12-03 Thread jim-bean
Hello all,
I am a fairly experienced Fedora user trying out Debian for the first time. I 
have a 3 disk distribution from Linux Central and I can get it to install and 
boot to a command line. The installer uses only the first disk. My problem is 
that I can't bring up the GUI. I have a driver for the video card but in order 
to install it gcc and the kernel headers are required, and missing. Also my 
only web source is via a wireless, which needs to be configured with 
ndiswrapper. This requires, guess what, gcc and the kernel headers so I can't 
download them. I tried aptitude and it requests a disk be mounted but it is not 
any of the disks that I have. I suspect that gcc is hiding on one of the disks 
I have if only I knew how to get to it. Ideas?
The computer is dual booted so I could use the Fedora side to download and copy 
over.
Jim Bean


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