solved - Re: 6GB RAM on a Tyan S2875 Tiger K8W - 500 MB missing

2006-07-10 Thread Raimund Jacob
Max A. wrote:

hi max, hi folks!

 Before playing with Memory Hole and MTRR settings in your BIOS setup,
 I strongly suggest to update your BIOS to the latest version.
 See http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2006/06/msg00344.html

just to let you and google know: it worked out. i upgraded the bios to
version 3.03 (took me 10 floppy disks to find a working one) and
activated these settings:

- MTRR mode discrete
- enable software memory hole
- disable hardware memory hole

and voila, got me 6144MB of RAM:
Memory: 6158992k/8388608k available (2669k kernel code, 131712k
reserved, 1001k data, 196k init)

disabling the hardware memory hole is mandatory, otherwise the kernel
wont boot, probably because it cannot access memory-mapped PCI I/O.

thanks again,

Raimund

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Re: 6GB RAM on a Tyan S2875 Tiger K8W - 500 MB missing

2006-07-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 10:25:26AM +0200, Raimund Jacob wrote:
 i upgraded the RAM of my workstation yesterday and have some problems
 understanding what i'm seeing.
 
 here is what i did: started with 4 GB of RAM, made up from 4x1GB
 registered non-ECC modules. all working well. ripped apart a new server
 that came with 2x2GB registered ECC modules (also worked well, so
 hardware defect is out of the question). the plan was to put those 2x2
 in my workstation, leaving 2x1 in place.
 
 that's what i did and i saw only 4 GB, but that was kinda logical
 because the 2x1 are non-ECC and i had to tell the BIOS about that. after
 disabling ECC alltogether the machines boots with the BIOS reporting
 57xx MB of memory. my kernel says:
 Memory: 5746100k/7438336k available (2638k kernel code, 118684k
 reserved, 996k data, 196k init)
 
 here is what i dont get: 6x1024MB are 6144MB but BIOS and kernel report
 only 5611MB - so where are my 533MB ?!
 
 i first though this might be an due to the way i plugged the modules
 into the DIMM slots and tried some other patterns. it turns out that the
 ECC modules alone only work when put into DIMM1/DIMM2 or DIMM1/DIMM3 -
 in combination  with the non-ECC modules it only works with the 2x2 in
 DIMM1/DIMM2 and the 2x1 in DIMM3/DIMM4. again, ECC is disabled in the
 BIOS completely - otherwise it wouldnt use the non-ECC modules at all.
 
 so i'm thinking if this is some kind of artefact of some memory hole
 i'm not aware of.
 
 also, the manual of the board (Tyan Tiger K8W S2875) contains a little
 chart that supposedly shows how 64bit (non-interleaved) and 128bit
 (interleaved) memory configurations work. but with all i know about
 computers i cannot interpret nor understand it:)
 
 question is: where is my memory ?! it's too much to be a miscalculation
 of some form (like the HDD manufacturers do it :) could anyone make
 sense of my BIOS-provided physical RAM map if i posted it? what am i
 missing?

There is usually a memory hole for BIOS and PCI access, at 3.5 to 4GB.
So unless your bios supports memory holes/memory remapping (most do with
the right bios setting), then you loose that ram.  Check your bios for
some settings related to memory holes or something similar.

According to what I remember, a setting for 'memory hole' in the bios
should be set to 'software' on tyan boards (assuming your bios is new
enough to have the option).  Back when I saw this, they were talking
about having to use beta bios releases to get the option, but that was a
while ago (as in last fall).

Len Sorensen


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Re: 6GB RAM on a Tyan S2875 Tiger K8W - 500 MB missing

2006-07-07 Thread Raimund Jacob
Lennart Sorensen wrote:

Hi Len, * !

question is: where is my memory ?! it's too much to be a miscalculation
of some form (like the HDD manufacturers do it :) could anyone make
sense of my BIOS-provided physical RAM map if i posted it? what am i
missing?
 
 
 There is usually a memory hole for BIOS and PCI access, at 3.5 to 4GB.
 So unless your bios supports memory holes/memory remapping (most do with
 the right bios setting), then you loose that ram.  Check your bios for
 some settings related to memory holes or something similar.
 
 According to what I remember, a setting for 'memory hole' in the bios
 should be set to 'software' on tyan boards (assuming your bios is new
 enough to have the option).  Back when I saw this, they were talking
 about having to use beta bios releases to get the option, but that was a
 while ago (as in last fall).

ah, that sounds reasonable. i've seen this option but the short
description didnt make sense to me. perhaps my BIOS also isnt new enough.

i will check all this once i can reboot the machine again (which is,
when everyone else left the office and i'm still around).

thanks a bunch,
Raimund

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Re: 6GB RAM on a Tyan S2875 Tiger K8W - 500 MB missing

2006-07-07 Thread Max A.

Raimund,

Before playing with Memory Hole and MTRR settings in your BIOS setup,
I strongly suggest to update your BIOS to the latest version.
See http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2006/06/msg00344.html

Max


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