Re: Asus motherboard hangs in X

2006-09-03 Thread hendrik
On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 04:59:21PM -0500, Russ Cook wrote:
> I have an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard with AMD Athlon 4800 dual
> core cpu, with 4 MB of Corsair TwinX ram sticks.  I have an older
> GeForce4 MX 420 graphics board with 64 MB ram.  I have updated my bios
> to version 1303, with no impact.  I am running kernel
> 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic.  I have also run the smp kernels, with the same
> problem.
> 
> When interacting in X, the system will hang unexpectedly.  I can ssh to
> the machine from another box, and the command 'top' will show eithe
> XFree86 or Xorg (whichever is running) to be using 100 % cpu (when
> running smp).
> 
> The machine has never frozen on me when running commands from ssh at
> another box.  Google search has shown many people having similar
> problems with various motherboards.  I have run memtest on all my memory
> sticks, one at a time, and all together, with no detected faults.
> 
> I also tried loading the nvidia video driver, but no help.
> 
> I have tried the Knoppix 5.0.1 and Kubuntu 6.06 live CDs, and get the
> same problem.  Is anyone else running this same motherboard without
> problems?  If you had problems and solved them, can you share your
> process? 

I've had a similar problem, but it went away when I installed Ubuntu.
Whatever they've done right, I hope it propagates to Debian soon.
By the way, I had the same problem whether in 32 and 64-bit more,
and whether I used the vesa, nv, or nvidia drivers.
> 
> Does Nvidia offer drivers for the NForce4 motherboard chipset, and if
> so, does it make any difference?  I plan to upgrade my video board, but
> I want to get a stable system first, before putting more $ into it. 
> Could the older video board be part of the problem?
> 
> Any help most gratefully accepted.
> 
> Thanks,
>   Russ



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(Soved: for now) Re: Asus motherboard hangs in X

2006-09-03 Thread Russ Cook

Russ Cook wrote:


Matthew Robinson wrote:

 





   


Try changing the driver in xorg.conf to 'vesa'. This will be much
slower than the binary Nvidia drivers, but if it works, youve found
your problem.




  

   


Thanks Matt.  I have changed the driver to Vesa, and so far I can't make
it crash.  I am now upgrading from stable to unstable (amd64) and
downloading a current smp kernel.  If all stays stable (pun intended), then
I'll ask the experts for suggestions regarding graphics boards and drivers.

Thanks much,
russ



 


If the vesa driver works, the open source 'nv' driver, may also work.
Its nvidia specific, but not as good as the official binary nvidia
drivers. As far as I know, nv performs much better than vesa, but much
worse than nvidia.

   


No, I started the whole process with the open source 'nv' driver.  I will
try it again after this upgrade completes, but 'nv' is what I was using for
several weeks before finally trying 'nvidia' which did not help, either.

Thanks again.
 Russ

 


Well,  I am now successfully running amd64 unstable.  The nv driver was
installed by default, and as before, caused my system to hang from X apps.
I have changed the config file to use the vesa driver, and now I can run
without crashes.  Thanks to those who offered help, especially Matt.

Next question, I'd like obtain a quality graphics card with hardware 
acceleration for use with the flightgear flight simulator (the primary

reason for building this system).  Can the kind folks on this list provide
suggestions of boards that are successfully running on this board?

Again, my system is Asus A8N32SLI Deluxe, AMD64 4800+ dual core,
4 GB Corsair TwinX ram (to be reduced to 2 GB due to MB ram limitations).

Thanks again,
  Russ


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Re: Asus motherboard hangs in X

2006-09-02 Thread Russ Cook
Matthew Robinson wrote:

>  
>  
>
>>>Try changing the driver in xorg.conf to 'vesa'. This will be much
>>>slower than the binary Nvidia drivers, but if it works, youve found
>>>your problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Thanks Matt.  I have changed the driver to Vesa, and so far I can't make
>>it crash.  I am now upgrading from stable to unstable (amd64) and
>>downloading a current smp kernel.  If all stays stable (pun intended), then
>>I'll ask the experts for suggestions regarding graphics boards and drivers.
>>
>>Thanks much,
>>  russ
>>
>>  
>>
> If the vesa driver works, the open source 'nv' driver, may also work.
> Its nvidia specific, but not as good as the official binary nvidia
> drivers. As far as I know, nv performs much better than vesa, but much
> worse than nvidia.
>
No, I started the whole process with the open source 'nv' driver.  I will
try it again after this upgrade completes, but 'nv' is what I was using for
several weeks before finally trying 'nvidia' which did not help, either.

Thanks again.
  Russ


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Re: Asus motherboard hangs in X

2006-09-02 Thread Matthew Robinson




  


  
Try changing the driver in xorg.conf to 'vesa'. This will be much
slower than the binary Nvidia drivers, but if it works, youve found
your problem.





  
  Thanks Matt.  I have changed the driver to Vesa, and so far I can't make
it crash.  I am now upgrading from stable to unstable (amd64) and
downloading a current smp kernel.  If all stays stable (pun intended), then
I'll ask the experts for suggestions regarding graphics boards and drivers.

Thanks much,
  russ

  

If the vesa driver works, the open source 'nv' driver, may also work.
Its nvidia specific, but not as good as the official binary nvidia
drivers. As far as I know, nv performs much better than vesa, but much
worse than nvidia.





Re: Asus motherboard hangs in X

2006-09-02 Thread Russ Cook
Matthew Robinson wrote:

> Russ Cook wrote:
>
>> I have an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard with AMD Athlon 4800 dual
>> core cpu, with 4 MB of Corsair TwinX ram sticks.  I have an older
>> GeForce4 MX 420 graphics board with 64 MB ram.  I have updated my bios
>> to version 1303, with no impact.  I am running kernel
>> 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic.  I have also run the smp kernels, with the same
>> problem.
>>
>> When interacting in X, the system will hang unexpectedly.  I can ssh to
>> the machine from another box, and the command 'top' will show eithe
>> XFree86 or Xorg (whichever is running) to be using 100 % cpu (when
>> running smp).
>>
>> The machine has never frozen on me when running commands from ssh at
>> another box.  Google search has shown many people having similar
>> problems with various motherboards.  I have run memtest on all my memory
>> sticks, one at a time, and all together, with no detected faults.
>>
>> I also tried loading the nvidia video driver, but no help.
>>
>> I have tried the Knoppix 5.0.1 and Kubuntu 6.06 live CDs, and get the
>> same problem.  Is anyone else running this same motherboard without
>> problems?  If you had problems and solved them, can you share your
>> process?
>> Does Nvidia offer drivers for the NForce4 motherboard chipset, and if
>> so, does it make any difference?  I plan to upgrade my video board, but
>> I want to get a stable system first, before putting more $ into it.
>> Could the older video board be part of the problem?
>>
>> Any help most gratefully accepted.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>   Russ
>>
>>   
>
> Try changing the driver in xorg.conf to 'vesa'. This will be much
> slower than the binary Nvidia drivers, but if it works, youve found
> your problem.
>
>
>
>
Thanks Matt.  I have changed the driver to Vesa, and so far I can't make
it crash.  I am now upgrading from stable to unstable (amd64) and
downloading a current smp kernel.  If all stays stable (pun intended), then
I'll ask the experts for suggestions regarding graphics boards and drivers.

Thanks much,
  russ


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