Re: Corrupted Gnome terminal
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 10:20 -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 02:36:02PM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: Tried the failsafe Gnome-Terminal, Terminal is fine when I login as alternate-user, but when I login as myself it continues to fail...8-( Tried the strace procedure the Jurriaan suggested. and the diff returned a null output. so it seems that starting gnome-terminal does not give a traceable error.. unless I screwed up again...8-) I hope I'm not interfering with your day... Thanks for your efforts and guidance You would have to do something like: strace gnometerminalprogram 2 logfile All output from strace is on stderr not stdout. otherwise you end up with a log containing only the output of the terminal program, not the strace. -- Len Sorensen Hi, all Finally got back to this.. I ran in a login safe gnome-terminal: strace gnome-terminal 2 term_error on both users Speeduke:/home/jack# diff term_error ~puck/term_error diff_terms Speeduke:/home/jack# less diff_terms Speeduke:/home/jack# man diff Speeduke:/home/jack# diff --suppress-common-lines term_error ~puck/term_error diff_terms Speeduke:/home/jack# tar cvf diff_terms.tar diff_terms The tarred file is attached.. Hope someone can make some sense out of it... I just don't have the knowledge to get farther... Any suggestions?? Thanks, Jack diff_terms.tar Description: Unix tar archive
Re: Corrupted Gnome terminal
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 12:45 -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 09:45:14AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: Finally got back to this.. I ran in a login safe gnome-terminal: strace gnome-terminal 2 term_error on both users Speeduke:/home/jack# diff term_error ~puck/term_error diff_terms Speeduke:/home/jack# less diff_terms Speeduke:/home/jack# man diff Speeduke:/home/jack# diff --suppress-common-lines term_error ~puck/term_error diff_terms Speeduke:/home/jack# tar cvf diff_terms.tar diff_terms The tarred file is attached.. Hope someone can make some sense out of it... I just don't have the knowledge to get farther... Any suggestions?? All I see in that file is 10240 0x00 bytes. That seems wrong. Maybe you could try: strace -o termerrors -ff gnome-terminal That should generate termerrors.### where ### is the PID of the gnome-terminal when it runs. -- Len Sorensen Thanks, Len I'll try that Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Corrupted Gnome terminal
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 09:45:14AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: Finally got back to this.. I ran in a login safe gnome-terminal: strace gnome-terminal 2 term_error on both users Speeduke:/home/jack# diff term_error ~puck/term_error diff_terms Speeduke:/home/jack# less diff_terms Speeduke:/home/jack# man diff Speeduke:/home/jack# diff --suppress-common-lines term_error ~puck/term_error diff_terms Speeduke:/home/jack# tar cvf diff_terms.tar diff_terms The tarred file is attached.. Hope someone can make some sense out of it... I just don't have the knowledge to get farther... Any suggestions?? All I see in that file is 10240 0x00 bytes. That seems wrong. Maybe you could try: strace -o termerrors -ff gnome-terminal That should generate termerrors.### where ### is the PID of the gnome-terminal when it runs. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Corrupted Gnome terminal
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 02:36:02PM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: Tried the failsafe Gnome-Terminal, Terminal is fine when I login as alternate-user, but when I login as myself it continues to fail...8-( Tried the strace procedure the Jurriaan suggested. and the diff returned a null output. so it seems that starting gnome-terminal does not give a traceable error.. unless I screwed up again...8-) I hope I'm not interfering with your day... Thanks for your efforts and guidance You would have to do something like: strace gnometerminalprogram 2 logfile All output from strace is on stderr not stdout. otherwise you end up with a log containing only the output of the terminal program, not the strace. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Corrupted Gnome terminal
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 15:11 -0800, Alex Malinovich wrote: snip Also when I started gnome-terminal from that point it gave me a completely working terminal... I tried to capture the profile as the default and restarted my normal login... No Improvemnt Well, this tells us that, most likely, the problem doesn't lie with gnome-terminal itself, but rather with some other application that's running in your session. The next step would be to try to log into a failsafe gnome session and see if it works there. That'll just start up gnome with none of your personal settings applied. If it works fine there, then it's time to start really digging. At that point, you can try the strace approach that Jurriaan mentioned and see if it helps. If you have a conflict with another program the strace should show you where the problem lies (if you can read the output that is. It's a bit of an acquired skill...) p.s. I'm subscribed to the list so you don't have to do a Reply To All when responding. As it looks like you're using Evolution you can just do Reply to List (Ctrl+L is the default, I believe), and it will take care of the rest for you. Hi, Alex Tried the failsafe Gnome-Terminal, Terminal is fine when I login as alternate-user, but when I login as myself it continues to fail...8-( Tried the strace procedure the Jurriaan suggested. and the diff returned a null output. so it seems that starting gnome-terminal does not give a traceable error.. unless I screwed up again...8-) I hope I'm not interfering with your day... Thanks for your efforts and guidance Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Corrupted Gnome terminal
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 14:36 -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 15:11 -0800, Alex Malinovich wrote: --snip-- Tried the failsafe Gnome-Terminal, Terminal is fine when I login as alternate-user, but when I login as myself it continues to fail...8-( Tried the strace procedure the Jurriaan suggested. and the diff returned a null output. so it seems that starting gnome-terminal does not give a traceable error.. unless I screwed up again...8-) I hope I'm not interfering with your day... Thanks for your efforts and guidance Ok, let's do a quick refresher so I can make sure we're both on the same page here: 1) Launching gnome-terminal through a failsafe xterm session works fine 2) Launching it as a different user in a regular gnome session works fine 3) Launching it as yourself in a regular gnome session or even a failsafe gnome session causes it to fail? 4) Using xterm or any other terminal emulator works fine And of the following, which have you/haven't you done already: 1) Removed all the gnome-terminal gconf settings 2) Done a purge of gnome-terminal followed by a reinstall (apt-get remove --purge gnome-terminal) Now, come to think of it, can you give some more details on what exactly is happening with the window? I know you said you can't close it, but does the terminal work ok otherwise? After you open the terminal, can you actually type commands, get output, etc? Do the drop-down menus at the top work if you click on them? If you click the close button at the top of the window does Gnome give you the force quit dialog? If you can provide a screenshot of the terminal in the hung state that would also be helpful. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrupted Gnome terminal
From: Jack Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:02:28AM -0600 Hi, all I screwed up my Gnome Terminal setup some how... on my workstation desktop. My system: Debian Lenny Kernel: 2.6.22-3-amd64 Video: Nvidia 8600 GT Video Drv. NVIDIA 169.07 My Problems: Gnome terminal has unreadable fonts..TOO small. The terminal will not close, when clicking on X, and cntrl++ will not work. Xterm seems to work. OK /var/log/Xorg.0.log has one failure: (EE) Failed to load module type1 (module does not exist, 0) I created a new user, and the Gnome terminal on that Desktop works normally..OK So it seems I have a hidden file screwed up on my desktop... Anyone have a idea what folder i should replace??? or what/where I should look or go from here??? I have been struggling for several days and come up blank from Archive and Google. Thanks, in advance.. Jack If you remove the package (apt-get remove --purge) and then reinstall it, does it disappear? If not, what I'd do is compare strace logs of Gnome terminal for the user where it isn't OK and the strace logs of Gnome terminal for the user where it is OK, or find all files including hidden files changed in the last week or so starting from ~ and guessing which one interacts with Gnome terminal. Good luck, Jurriaan -- Morwatz said fretfully, Why are you so interested in the mannerisms of the race? Tonight, they intend to eat us . . . Jack Vance - Big Planet -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Corrupted Gnome terminal
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 08:02 -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: --snip-- My Problems: Gnome terminal has unreadable fonts..TOO small. The terminal will not close, when clicking on X, and cntrl++ will not work. Xterm seems to work. OK /var/log/Xorg.0.log has one failure: (EE) Failed to load module type1 (module does not exist, 0) I created a new user, and the Gnome terminal on that Desktop works normally..OK So it seems I have a hidden file screwed up on my desktop... Anyone have a idea what folder i should replace??? or what/where I should look or go from here??? I have been struggling for several days and come up blank from Archive and Google. A good place to start would be to take a look at the gconf settings for gnome-terminal, specifically /apps/gnome-terminal. If you don't mind losing any settings for it, you can do: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/gnome-terminal However, as you've mentioned you're having difficulties closing the program, I'd be inclined to think that the problem might lie with another application in your session. Try logging into a failsafe xterm session and starting up just your WM and gnome-terminal. Something along the lines of: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ metacity [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gnome-terminal And then see what happens. Doing it this way will allow you to determine if the fault lies with another program that's running in your session. Hope that helps. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Corrupted Gnome terminal
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 13:41 -0800, Alex Malinovich wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 08:02 -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: --snip-- My Problems: Gnome terminal has unreadable fonts..TOO small. The terminal will not close, when clicking on X, and cntrl++ will not work. Xterm seems to work. OK /var/log/Xorg.0.log has one failure: (EE) Failed to load module type1 (module does not exist, 0) I created a new user, and the Gnome terminal on that Desktop works normally..OK So it seems I have a hidden file screwed up on my desktop... Anyone have a idea what folder i should replace??? or what/where I should look or go from here??? I have been struggling for several days and come up blank from Archive and Google. A good place to start would be to take a look at the gconf settings for gnome-terminal, specifically /apps/gnome-terminal. If you don't mind losing any settings for it, you can do: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/gnome-terminal However, as you've mentioned you're having difficulties closing the program, I'd be inclined to think that the problem might lie with another application in your session. Try logging into a failsafe xterm session and starting up just your WM and gnome-terminal. Something along the lines of: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ metacity [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gnome-terminal And then see what happens. Doing it this way will allow you to determine if the fault lies with another program that's running in your session. Hope that helps. Thanks for the reply, Below is the output of the metacity command: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ metacity [1] 5844 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Window manager warning: AltButton3 found in configuration d atabase is not a valid value for keybinding activate_window_menu Window manager warning: AltButton1 found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding begin_move Window manager warning: AltButton2 found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding begin_resize Also when I started gnome-terminal from that point it gave me a completely working terminal... I tried to capture the profile as the default and restarted my normal login... No Improvemnt The above looks like somthing to work on..??? What next Coach??? Thanks, Alex.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Corrupted Gnome terminal
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 13:41 -0800, Alex Malinovich wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 08:02 -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: --snip-- My Problems: Gnome terminal has unreadable fonts..TOO small. The terminal will not close, when clicking on X, and cntrl++ will not work. Xterm seems to work. OK /var/log/Xorg.0.log has one failure: (EE) Failed to load module type1 (module does not exist, 0) I created a new user, and the Gnome terminal on that Desktop works normally..OK So it seems I have a hidden file screwed up on my desktop... Anyone have a idea what folder i should replace??? or what/where I should look or go from here??? I have been struggling for several days and come up blank from Archive and Google. A good place to start would be to take a look at the gconf settings for gnome-terminal, specifically /apps/gnome-terminal. If you don't mind losing any settings for it, you can do: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/gnome-terminal However, as you've mentioned you're having difficulties closing the program, I'd be inclined to think that the problem might lie with another application in your session. Try logging into a failsafe xterm session and starting up just your WM and gnome-terminal. Something along the lines of: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ metacity [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gnome-terminal And then see what happens. Doing it this way will allow you to determine if the fault lies with another program that's running in your session. Hope that helps. Thanks, Alex I'll try that in a few hours... Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Corrupted Gnome terminal
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 17:01 -0600, Jack Schneider wrote: --snip-- Below is the output of the metacity command: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ metacity [1] 5844 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Window manager warning: AltButton3 found in configuration d atabase is not a valid value for keybinding activate_window_menu Window manager warning: AltButton1 found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding begin_move Window manager warning: AltButton2 found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding begin_resize These are just warnings. If you're so inclined you can try fixing them up later, but they shouldn't matter for the current problem at least. Also when I started gnome-terminal from that point it gave me a completely working terminal... I tried to capture the profile as the default and restarted my normal login... No Improvemnt Well, this tells us that, most likely, the problem doesn't lie with gnome-terminal itself, but rather with some other application that's running in your session. The next step would be to try to log into a failsafe gnome session and see if it works there. That'll just start up gnome with none of your personal settings applied. If it works fine there, then it's time to start really digging. At that point, you can try the strace approach that Jurriaan mentioned and see if it helps. If you have a conflict with another program the strace should show you where the problem lies (if you can read the output that is. It's a bit of an acquired skill...) p.s. I'm subscribed to the list so you don't have to do a Reply To All when responding. As it looks like you're using Evolution you can just do Reply to List (Ctrl+L is the default, I believe), and it will take care of the rest for you. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
