Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's

2005-07-25 Thread Mattias Wadenstein

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Mark Nipper wrote:


On 20 Jul 2005, Justin Grindal wrote:

Quick question -

I've been trying to download the DVD .ISO's from

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-dvd/

and, instead of getting the 4.0 and 3.4 GB ISO's, mine only wind up
being an even 2GB.  Obviously, when they're done, the md5sum's don't
line up, and the images don't work.  I tried downloading them using my
WinXP box (first try was on FC3 box) and I only read them as 387 meg
downloads.  Any advice on how I can get the whole ISO?


I'm surprised cdimage.debian.org is even serving those
files properly.  I didn't think Apache (2.1 anyway) would serve
out large files.  At least my experience with 2.0.x would suggest
otherwise.


It is a simple edit to the debian/rules file to fix the compile option for 
LFS in the source package, then just rebuild. The same goes for 1.3 
really, but I'm not sure it is a quite as obvious edit to debian/rules.


I'm running a 32-bit OS on it, which actually proved more stable because 
the LFS support on 64-bit apache seemed buggy (I was too stressed out with 
the release to properly investigate and submit a bug though). That's the 
reason why the http offloaders for the i386 stuff ran apache 1.3, not 2.0.


/Mattias Wadenstein


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Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's

2005-07-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mark Nipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I'm surprised cdimage.debian.org is even serving those
 files properly.  I didn't think Apache (2.1 anyway) would serve
 out large files.  At least my experience with 2.0.x would suggest
 otherwise.

Probably a 64bit cpu under it.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's

2005-07-20 Thread Jo Shields

Justin Grindal wrote:

Quick question - 

I've been trying to download the DVD .ISO's from 


http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-dvd/

and, instead of getting the 4.0 and 3.4 GB ISO's, mine only wind up
being an even 2GB.  Obviously, when they're done, the md5sum's don't
line up, and the images don't work.  I tried downloading them using my
WinXP box (first try was on FC3 box) and I only read them as 387 meg
downloads.  Any advice on how I can get the whole ISO?

 


This is a limitation of 32bit download apps.

Use a 64-bit downloader (e.g. wget on amd64, Firefox on amd64, even MSIE 
on XP 64bit), or use the .torrent file. Or you may have some luck with 
an ftp client. And I think curl can handle it, if you can get it to behave.


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Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's

2005-07-20 Thread Justin Grindal
I'm using Firefox, but it's still coming up as 2gigs...  where
does one get wget 64-bit?

On 7/20/05, Jo Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Justin Grindal wrote:
 
 Quick question -
 
 I've been trying to download the DVD .ISO's from
 
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-dvd/
 
 and, instead of getting the 4.0 and 3.4 GB ISO's, mine only wind up
 being an even 2GB.  Obviously, when they're done, the md5sum's don't
 line up, and the images don't work.  I tried downloading them using my
 WinXP box (first try was on FC3 box) and I only read them as 387 meg
 downloads.  Any advice on how I can get the whole ISO?
 
 
 
 This is a limitation of 32bit download apps.
 
 Use a 64-bit downloader (e.g. wget on amd64, Firefox on amd64, even MSIE
 on XP 64bit), or use the .torrent file. Or you may have some luck with
 an ftp client. And I think curl can handle it, if you can get it to behave.
 
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Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's

2005-07-20 Thread Javier Kohen
El mié, 20-07-2005 a las 17:56 -0600, Justin Grindal escribió:
 I'm using Firefox, but it's still coming up as 2gigs...  where
 does one get wget 64-bit?

I'd expect 32-bit wget to be able to handle large files (i.e., using
64-bit size markers). Actually I'd expect all of them to be able to
handle that, so don't trust my expectations.

Have you tried from a different location? Could a proxy server be
trimming your file? I'm just guessing, so don't take me too seriously.

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Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's

2005-07-20 Thread Max

Justin Grindal wrote:

I'm using Firefox, but it's still coming up as 2gigs...  


What filesystem do you use?


where does one get wget 64-bit?


http://software.lpetrov.net/wget-LFS/

Max




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Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's

2005-07-20 Thread Mattias Wadenstein

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Javier Kohen wrote:


El mi?, 20-07-2005 a las 17:56 -0600, Justin Grindal escribi?:

I'm using Firefox, but it's still coming up as 2gigs...  where
does one get wget 64-bit?


I'd expect 32-bit wget to be able to handle large files (i.e., using
64-bit size markers). Actually I'd expect all of them to be able to
handle that, so don't trust my expectations.


Unfortunately not, wget has been particularly slow in fixing this. The fix 
did not make it to sarge.


My recommendation is lftp (lftpget to get a single url from the command 
line).


Btw, I too expected wget to handle this. But then, I was very surprised to 
see apache not handling large files either.


/Mattias Wadenstein


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Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's

2005-07-20 Thread Justin Grindal
Hooray!  I've got the problem fixed.  Instead of using Firefox, I used
Konqueror and everything works great now.  Thanks for the help guys!

-Justin Grindal

On 7/20/05, Mattias Wadenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Javier Kohen wrote:
 
  El mi?, 20-07-2005 a las 17:56 -0600, Justin Grindal escribi?:
  I'm using Firefox, but it's still coming up as 2gigs...  where
  does one get wget 64-bit?
 
  I'd expect 32-bit wget to be able to handle large files (i.e., using
  64-bit size markers). Actually I'd expect all of them to be able to
  handle that, so don't trust my expectations.
 
 Unfortunately not, wget has been particularly slow in fixing this. The fix 
 did not make it to sarge.
 
 My recommendation is lftp (lftpget to get a single url from the command 
 line).
 
 Btw, I too expected wget to handle this. But then, I was very surprised to 
 see apache not handling large files either.
 
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Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's

2005-07-20 Thread Alan Ianson
On Wed July 20 2005 04:31 pm, Justin Grindal wrote:
 Quick question -

 I've been trying to download the DVD .ISO's from

 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-dvd/

 and, instead of getting the 4.0 and 3.4 GB ISO's, mine only wind up
 being an even 2GB.  Obviously, when they're done, the md5sum's don't
 line up, and the images don't work.  I tried downloading them using my
 WinXP box (first try was on FC3 box) and I only read them as 387 meg
 downloads.  Any advice on how I can get the whole ISO?

I got mine with Jigdo and haven't looked back. If you decided to use jigdo 
you'll need the .jigdo and .template and point jigdo to 
http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64/ .


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Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's

2005-07-20 Thread Mark Nipper
On 20 Jul 2005, Justin Grindal wrote:
 Quick question - 
 
 I've been trying to download the DVD .ISO's from 
 
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-dvd/
 
 and, instead of getting the 4.0 and 3.4 GB ISO's, mine only wind up
 being an even 2GB.  Obviously, when they're done, the md5sum's don't
 line up, and the images don't work.  I tried downloading them using my
 WinXP box (first try was on FC3 box) and I only read them as 387 meg
 downloads.  Any advice on how I can get the whole ISO?

I'm surprised cdimage.debian.org is even serving those
files properly.  I didn't think Apache (2.1 anyway) would serve
out large files.  At least my experience with 2.0.x would suggest
otherwise.

From my own experience, curl is one of the few cross
platform utilities which will handle large files.  I've gone as
far as installing Cygwin on Windows machines just to make this
work as 32-bit IE and Firefox wouldn't handle it.

And on the server side, I've started using Cherokee
exactly because it supports large files properly.  I was humored
to see that the recent Apache 2.1 development branch finally
added proper large file support.  But again, I'm surprised
cdimage.debian.org is handling these files correctly (if in fact
it even is).

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Re: Downloading DVD .ISO's

2005-07-20 Thread Greg Madden
On Wednesday 20 July 2005 03:31 pm, Justin Grindal wrote:
 Quick question -

 I've been trying to download the DVD .ISO's from

 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-dvd/

 and, instead of getting the 4.0 and 3.4 GB ISO's, mine only wind up
 being an even 2GB.  Obviously, when they're done, the md5sum's don't
 line up, and the images don't work.  I tried downloading them using
 my WinXP box (first try was on FC3 box) and I only read them as 387
 meg downloads.  Any advice on how I can get the whole ISO?

Glad to see it works, Other options are jigdo  torrents, both supported 
by Debian, i.e., available same location as the iso's. I am seeding the 
Sarge AMD64 dvd's now, not much bandwidth though :-)


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