Re: External hard drive problem

2004-09-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 11:28:17AM -0700, Karl Hegbloom wrote:
> The problem with that is that it's much slower than a hard drive
> install.  Keep that in mind while you finish your coffee waiting for
> OpenOffice to post it's first frame on your display...
> 
> I've used www.sysresccd.org to resize an NTFS partition in an i386
> laptop.  I can't guarantee it will work, but it might...  On amd64,
> perhaps NTFS is using different sizes for things?  Or perhaps it's 64
> bit anyhow?  You boot to XP, defrag the disk, boot the CD, type
> 'run_qtparted', resize, boot XP and let it checkdisk, then boot a debian
> installer disk and let it take the free space.  Works great on i386
> (ymmv; make a backup); not sure about amd64.

No, it is the same NTFS, since the laptops are shipping with 32bit XP,
and as far as I have been able to tell, running both 32 and 64bit XP on
a laptop they can read and write each others NTFS just fine.

Len Sorensen




Re: External hard drive problem

2004-09-16 Thread Karl Hegbloom
On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 11:32 +0100, Simon Capstick wrote:
>
> The easiest way for you to use Linux without touching the HD in your laptop 
> would be to simply use and run a Knoppix CD.  You could use your firewire HD 
> to store all your linux related data.

The problem with that is that it's much slower than a hard drive
install.  Keep that in mind while you finish your coffee waiting for
OpenOffice to post it's first frame on your display...

I've used www.sysresccd.org to resize an NTFS partition in an i386
laptop.  I can't guarantee it will work, but it might...  On amd64,
perhaps NTFS is using different sizes for things?  Or perhaps it's 64
bit anyhow?  You boot to XP, defrag the disk, boot the CD, type
'run_qtparted', resize, boot XP and let it checkdisk, then boot a debian
installer disk and let it take the free space.  Works great on i386
(ymmv; make a backup); not sure about amd64.

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Re: External hard drive problem

2004-09-16 Thread Karl Hegbloom
On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 18:44 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Karl Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 09:52 +0200, Massimo Perga wrote:
> >> 
> >> Please, could you help me ?
> >
> > I don't think that the installer will support installing to a firewire
> > drive right now.  (unless they fixed that)  You may be able to get it to
> > work installing by hand with 'Debian from scratch'.
> 
> If the module is loaded (automatic or manualy) and the disk shows up
> in /dev/discs or /dev/scsi/... then D-I should see it just fine.
> 

Now that I think about it, it may have been that 'grub' and my BIOS
could not, for some reason or another, boot my usb hard drive after
using d-i to install to it.  This was 4 to 6 months ago, and I only
spent about 2 1/2 hours on it total.

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Re: External hard drive problem

2004-09-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Karl Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 09:52 +0200, Massimo Perga wrote:
>> 
>> Please, could you help me ?
>
> I don't think that the installer will support installing to a firewire
> drive right now.  (unless they fixed that)  You may be able to get it to
> work installing by hand with 'Debian from scratch'.

If the module is loaded (automatic or manualy) and the disk shows up
in /dev/discs or /dev/scsi/... then D-I should see it just fine.

Firewire works on other archs and should work onamd64 too.


Try to load the modules manually, partition, format and mount
manually. If that all works but partitioning in D-I not then it is
definetly a bug in the partitioner.

The loading of modules would be a bug in hwdetect i think.

MfG
Goswin




Re: External hard drive problem

2004-09-16 Thread Simon Capstick
On Thursday 16 Sep 2004 10:45, Karl Hegbloom wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 09:52 +0200, Massimo Perga wrote:
> > Please, could you help me ?
>
> I don't think that the installer will support installing to a firewire
> drive right now.  (unless they fixed that)  You may be able to get it to
> work installing by hand with 'Debian from scratch'.
>
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Another method maybe to boot from a Knoppix CD where you should be able to 
access the disk, partition it, format it and install debian from Knoppix.  

The problem will come when trying to boot Linux from the firewire disk.  
Perhaps you create a Linux boot CD  that can find the firewire disk and then 
start the boot process on it.   This all sounds like advanced stuff so I 
wouldn't recommend it if you're just starting out with Linux.

The easiest way for you to use Linux without touching the HD in your laptop 
would be to simply use and run a Knoppix CD.  You could use your firewire HD 
to store all your linux related data.

http://knoppix.org/

Simon





Re: External hard drive problem

2004-09-16 Thread Karl Hegbloom
On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 09:52 +0200, Massimo Perga wrote:
> 
> Please, could you help me ?

I don't think that the installer will support installing to a firewire
drive right now.  (unless they fixed that)  You may be able to get it to
work installing by hand with 'Debian from scratch'.

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Karl Hegbloom
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