Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-22 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 10:47:46AM +, Tony Power wrote:
 On 11/21/05, Corey Hickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi again!
   Now I have another problem.
   After installing nvidia drivers, my consoles (ctrl+alt+F1,F2,...) have a
   diferent color. Not the normal black and white.
   Now I get blue (background) and white (characters) consoles, and most of
  the
   times, fuzzy blue and white. Sometimes I get a complete white screen (no
   charaters) that shows coloured lines progressively.
   Anybody knows why is that?
 
  I've never seen that before, and I probably can't help. I have a few
  questions, though.
 
  1. At what point are your consoles messed up? Do they look weird right
  after
  the nvidia module loads, or only after you start X and switch back to a
  console?
 
  They get messed up after I start X and then switch to console mode. (blue
 and white)
 And when I kill X with ctrl+alt+backspace (complete white screen)

I've had this before.  I'm not sure if the problem is with the video
chip itself or the way it is integrated into the system, but basically
your VGA font memory and possibly some other VGA settings aren't
being restored properly.

I used to have a shell script that would fix this for me, but I can't
find it.  IIRC it was just a simple command something like

consolechars --char-height=8

or something like that.  The console wasn't perfect after that, but
quite useable.  I put it into a shell script that was easy to type
blindly, because until you run it, you can't see anything.

I'm pretty sure switching to using a frame buffer would fix this, but
I've never had much luck running a frame buffer setup.

Cheers,

a


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-21 Thread Corey Hickey
 Hi again!
 Now I have another problem.
 After installing nvidia drivers, my consoles (ctrl+alt+F1,F2,...) have a
 diferent color. Not the normal black and white.
 Now I get blue (background) and white (characters) consoles, and most of the
 times, fuzzy blue and white. Sometimes I get a complete white screen (no
 charaters) that shows coloured lines progressively.
 Anybody knows why is that?

I've never seen that before, and I probably can't help. I have a few
questions, though.

1. At what point are your consoles messed up? Do they look weird right after
the nvidia module loads, or only after you start X and switch back to a
console?

2. Are you using a framebuffer console or plain old text-only?

3. Do these problems go away (at least temporarily) when you turn your
machine completely off and then on again?

-Corey




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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-21 Thread Tony Power
On 11/21/05, Corey Hickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi again! Now I have another problem. After installing nvidia drivers, my consoles (ctrl+alt+F1,F2,...) have a
 diferent color. Not the normal black and white. Now I get blue (background) and white (characters) consoles, and most of the times, fuzzy blue and white. Sometimes I get a complete white screen (no
 charaters) that shows coloured lines progressively. Anybody knows why is that?I've never seen that before, and I probably can't help. I have a fewquestions, though.1. At what point are your consoles messed up? Do they look weird right after
the nvidia module loads, or only after you start X and switch back to aconsole?

They get messed up after I start X and then switch to console mode. (blue and white)
And when I kill X with ctrl+alt+backspace (complete white screen)
2. Are you using a framebuffer console or plain old text-only?

I'm not using frame buffer, although it's enabled on the kernel.
3. Do these problems go away (at least temporarily) when you turn yourmachine completely off and then on again?


Yap! It only messes up when I switch to console or kill X.
If I kill X from console (/etc/init.d/gdm stop) I don't get the white screen.
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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-21 Thread Corey Hickey
Tony Power wrote:
 1. At what point are your consoles messed up? Do they look weird
 right after
 the nvidia module loads, or only after you start X and switch back to a
 console?
 
  
 They get messed up after I start X and then switch to console mode.
 (blue and white)
 And when I kill X with ctrl+alt+backspace (complete white screen)
 
 2. Are you using a framebuffer console or plain old text-only?
 
  
 I'm not using frame buffer, although it's enabled on the kernel.

I suppose you could try using vesafb -- it's not likely to cause any
problems and looks a lot nicer than the default console anyway. See
/usr/src/linux-2.6.whatever/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt

I don't really expect that to help you, but it's all I can come up with.
If it doesn't work then I'm out of ideas; unless someone else here can
help, you should try posting on the nvnews.net linux forum.

-Corey


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-20 Thread Tony Power
Hi again!
Now I have another problem.
After installing nvidia drivers, my consoles (ctrl+alt+F1,F2,...) have a diferent color. Not the normal black and white.
Now I get blue (background) and white (characters) consoles, and most
of the times, fuzzy blue and white. Sometimes I get a complete white
screen (no charaters) that shows coloured lines progressively.
Anybody knows why is that?
ThanksOn 11/19/05, Tony Power [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
Problem solved!
It was enough to set:
Option IgnoreEDID 1
As suggested by Corey.
Thank you all ;)On 11/18/05, Corey Hickey 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tony Power wrote: Hi Lennart! Well, I tried that but my LCD turned very colourful, like it was melting.Heh. My laptop's LCD melts in black and white when I try to use softwaresuspend. And, yes, the log says something about EDID on the syncs.
 I'm attaching my X log and my X config file. If anyonone can help, I appreciate that. Thank you.I don't know if this will help, but I had to use a custom modeline on myToshiba laptop to make it work right at 1400x1050. The nvidia driver was
reading the EDID as (if I recall correctly) 1360x1050 and there was anannoying black bar at the right hand side of the screen.Try making these modifications to your xorg.conf:1. Set HorizSync to 29-49 (according to the EDID info in your log that
is correct).2. Set VertRefresh to 60 (as far as I know that's correct for all or atleast most LCDs).3. In your Monitor section, insert the following modeline:Modeline 1280x800_60.00
83.461280 1344 1480 1680800 801 804 828-HSync -VsyncMy email program is going to break that up, but the -HSync -Vsync ispart of the same Modeline. For reference, I generated that with gtf
1280 800 60 and changed the +Vsync to -Vsync because that was necessaryfor my laptop. If it doesn't work for yours you can try switching themaround.4. In your 24-bit Display subsection, change 1280x800 to
1280x800_60.00 to reference the custom modeline.5. In your nvidia Device section add:Option IgnoreEDID 1If all this doesn't work, you can try asking on the 

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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-19 Thread Tony Power
Hi!
Problem solved!
It was enough to set:
Option IgnoreEDID 1
As suggested by Corey.
Thank you all ;)On 11/18/05, Corey Hickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tony Power wrote: Hi Lennart! Well, I tried that but my LCD turned very colourful, like it was melting.Heh. My laptop's LCD melts in black and white when I try to use softwaresuspend. And, yes, the log says something about EDID on the syncs.
 I'm attaching my X log and my X config file. If anyonone can help, I appreciate that. Thank you.I don't know if this will help, but I had to use a custom modeline on myToshiba laptop to make it work right at 1400x1050. The nvidia driver was
reading the EDID as (if I recall correctly) 1360x1050 and there was anannoying black bar at the right hand side of the screen.Try making these modifications to your xorg.conf:1. Set HorizSync to 29-49 (according to the EDID info in your log that
is correct).2. Set VertRefresh to 60 (as far as I know that's correct for all or atleast most LCDs).3. In your Monitor section, insert the following modeline:Modeline 1280x800_60.00
83.461280 1344 1480 1680800 801 804 828-HSync -VsyncMy email program is going to break that up, but the -HSync -Vsync ispart of the same Modeline. For reference, I generated that with gtf
1280 800 60 and changed the +Vsync to -Vsync because that was necessaryfor my laptop. If it doesn't work for yours you can try switching themaround.4. In your 24-bit Display subsection, change 1280x800 to
1280x800_60.00 to reference the custom modeline.5. In your nvidia Device section add:Option IgnoreEDID 1If all this doesn't work, you can try asking on the 
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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 04:03:39PM +, Jo Shields wrote:
 2.6.14 requires newer drivers than those in sarge or sid:

Is this only true on amd64?

I know my i386 is running 2.6.14 with the 71xx drivers just fine.

Len Sorensen


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-18 Thread Tony Power
Well, It worked fine!
Thanks.
The only think I can't do is to define 1280x800 resolution. I could do it with the nv driver.
I've tried all sorts horizsync and vertrefresh on xorg.conf, and I can't make it work 1280x800.
I have an acer aspire 1524 wlmi with 15.4 LCD and geforce fx go 5700.
If anyone can do it please let me know.
Thanks ;)
On 11/17/05, Jo Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tony Power wrote: Hi! I can't do: * dpkg -i nvidia-set* Because I didn't get any nvidia-set*. Is this a problem? On 11/17/05, *Jo Shields* 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Smith wrote: On Sunday 13 November 2005 00:30, Alan Ianson wrote:
   On Sat November 12 2005 04:01 pm, Stefan Salewski wrote:   Hello,  next week I will try to install debian-amd64 on a new computer
 with a nvidia graphic card (7800GTX).  I don't really like these closed source drivers from ati and nvidia, but I think I have to use it.
  I have just done some google search about debian and nvidia drivers. Some people recommend not to install the nvidia way, but to use the debian way. I found only one detailed explanation
 about how to do it:   http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
 http://home.comcast.net/%7Eandrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html  This tutorial is very nice, but I am not sure if it is an
 official debian recommendation and if it will work for AMD64 too.  Can you comment on this? Are there other tutorials around? Will I
 have only textmode available until I install the nvidia driver, or will the X-Org driver give mean unaccelerated graphical display? 
  You can use the nv driver in the mean time. That's what I have been using here and it works fine. I don't know for sure what the
 difference is but I think if you want 3D acceleration (for gaming) you may need the nvidia drivers. I've been trying to get them installed too, so I'll be watching
 this thread.The difference, at least to my eyes, is much better font rendering and a generally over all shaper image with the nvidia drivers compared
 to nv. I didn't realize that a driver could make so much difference but switching to nvidia after using nv for a while was like getting a new monitor. 
 Having said that I can't get the nvidia drivers to work with 2.6.14 but they work fine with 2.6.12.  Graham  
   2.6.14 requires newer drivers than those in sarge or sid: * add deb-src http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian experimental main contrib
 non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list * go to a new empty folder * apt-get update * apt-get source -t experimental nvidia-glx * apt-get build-dep nvidia-glx
 * cd nvidia* * dpkg-buildpackage * cd .. * dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-source* * apt-get install module-assistant build-essential
 * cat /proc/version - make sure your kernel's gcc is installed (e.g. gcc-3.4 must be installed if your kernel was compiled with gcc 3.4.x) * wget 
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/n/nvidia-kernel-common/nvidia-kernel-common_20051028+1_all.deb 
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/n/nvidia-kernel-common/nvidia-kernel-common_20051028+1_all.deb%22 * dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-common* * m-a a-i nvidia * dpkg -i nvidia-glx_*
 * dpkg -i nvidia-glx-i* * dpkg -i nvidia-set* Change your X server as per usual. I think some people make their generated packages available on the web.
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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 07:13:40PM +, Tony Power wrote:
 Well, It worked fine!
 Thanks.
 The only think I can't do is to define 1280x800 resolution. I could do it
 with the nv driver.
 I've tried all sorts horizsync and vertrefresh on xorg.conf, and I can't
 make it work 1280x800.
 I have an acer aspire 1524 wlmi with 15.4 LCD and geforce fx go 5700.
 If anyone can do it please let me know.

Does it give an error in the log about EDID max of 1024?

My wife's compaq r3240 did that too, and it turns out there is a bug in
the nvidia kernel modules, in that the options to the nvidia module that
are supposed to be defaults are not in fact the defaults and they don't
do the right thing on some laptops.

I think I had to set NVreg_Mobile to 0 ie:

/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia:
options nvidia NVreg_Mobile=0

If I read the source code correctly, it is mistakenly set to 0 in one
place and 1 in another (1 means Dell) and it seems to use the value 1
even though the comments say 0 should be the default.  0 is autodetect.

Once I did that it detected the screen size properly and allowed my
1280x800 modeline to work just fine.  I had tried dozens of modelines
and couldn't get anything wider than 1024 to work.

If you can't get it working let me know and I will go look up the exact
options I passed to get it working and the modeline I used.

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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-18 Thread Corey Hickey
Tony Power wrote:
 Hi Lennart!
 Well, I tried that but my LCD turned very colourful, like it was melting.

Heh. My laptop's LCD melts in black and white when I try to use software
suspend.

 And, yes, the log says something about EDID on the syncs.
 I'm attaching my X log and my X config file.
 If anyonone can help, I appreciate that.
 Thank you.

I don't know if this will help, but I had to use a custom modeline on my
Toshiba laptop to make it work right at 1400x1050. The nvidia driver was
reading the EDID as (if I recall correctly) 1360x1050 and there was an
annoying black bar at the right hand side of the screen.

Try making these modifications to your xorg.conf:

1. Set HorizSync to 29-49 (according to the EDID info in your log that
is correct).

2. Set VertRefresh to 60 (as far as I know that's correct for all or at
least most LCDs).

3. In your Monitor section, insert the following modeline:
Modeline 1280x800_60.00  83.46  1280 1344 1480 1680  800 801 804 828
-HSync -Vsync
My email program is going to break that up, but the -HSync -Vsync is
part of the same Modeline. For reference, I generated that with gtf
1280 800 60 and changed the +Vsync to -Vsync because that was necessary
for my laptop. If it doesn't work for yours you can try switching them
around.

4. In your 24-bit Display subsection, change 1280x800 to
1280x800_60.00 to reference the custom modeline.

5. In your nvidia Device section add:
Option IgnoreEDID 1

If all this doesn't work, you can try asking on the nvnews.net Linux forum.

-Corey


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-17 Thread Graham Smith
On Sunday 13 November 2005 00:30, Alan Ianson wrote:
 On Sat November 12 2005 04:01 pm, Stefan Salewski wrote:
  Hello,
 
  next week I will try to install debian-amd64 on a new computer
  with a nvidia graphic card (7800GTX).
 
  I don't really like these closed source drivers from ati and
  nvidia, but I think I have to use it.
 
  I have just done some google search about debian and nvidia
  drivers. Some people recommend not to install the nvidia way,
  but to use the debian way. I found only one detailed explanation
  about how to do it:
 
  http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
 
  This tutorial is very nice, but I am not sure if it is an
  official debian recommendation and if it will work for AMD64
  too.
 
  Can you comment on this? Are there other tutorials around? Will I
  have only textmode available until I install the nvidia driver,
  or will the X-Org driver give me  an unaccelerated graphical
  display?

 You can use the nv driver in the mean time. That's what I have been using
 here and it works fine. I don't know for sure what the difference is but I
 think if you want 3D acceleration (for gaming) you may need the nvidia
 drivers. I've been trying to get them installed too, so I'll be watching
 this thread.

The difference, at least to my eyes, is much better font rendering and a 
generally over all shaper image with the nvidia drivers compared to nv. I 
didn't realize that a driver could make so much difference but switching to 
nvidia after using nv for a while was like getting a new monitor.

Having said that I can't get the nvidia drivers to work with 2.6.14 but they 
work fine with 2.6.12.

Graham


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-17 Thread Jo Shields

Graham Smith wrote:


On Sunday 13 November 2005 00:30, Alan Ianson wrote:
 


On Sat November 12 2005 04:01 pm, Stefan Salewski wrote:
   


Hello,

next week I will try to install debian-amd64 on a new computer
with a nvidia graphic card (7800GTX).

I don't really like these closed source drivers from ati and
nvidia, but I think I have to use it.

I have just done some google search about debian and nvidia
drivers. Some people recommend not to install the nvidia way,
but to use the debian way. I found only one detailed explanation
about how to do it:

http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html

This tutorial is very nice, but I am not sure if it is an
official debian recommendation and if it will work for AMD64
too.

Can you comment on this? Are there other tutorials around? Will I
have only textmode available until I install the nvidia driver,
or will the X-Org driver give me  an unaccelerated graphical
display?
 


You can use the nv driver in the mean time. That's what I have been using
here and it works fine. I don't know for sure what the difference is but I
think if you want 3D acceleration (for gaming) you may need the nvidia
drivers. I've been trying to get them installed too, so I'll be watching
this thread.
   



The difference, at least to my eyes, is much better font rendering and a 
generally over all shaper image with the nvidia drivers compared to nv. I 
didn't realize that a driver could make so much difference but switching to 
nvidia after using nv for a while was like getting a new monitor.


Having said that I can't get the nvidia drivers to work with 2.6.14 but they 
work fine with 2.6.12.


Graham


 


2.6.14 requires newer drivers than those in sarge or sid:

* add deb-src http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian experimental main contrib 
non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list

* go to a new empty folder
* apt-get update
* apt-get source -t experimental nvidia-glx
* apt-get build-dep nvidia-glx
* cd nvidia*
* dpkg-buildpackage
* cd ..
* dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-source*
* apt-get install module-assistant build-essential
* cat /proc/version - make sure your kernel's gcc is installed (e.g. 
gcc-3.4 must be installed if your kernel was compiled with gcc 3.4.x)
* wget 
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/n/nvidia-kernel-common/nvidia-kernel-common_20051028+1_all.deb;

* dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-common*
* m-a a-i nvidia
* dpkg -i nvidia-glx_*
* dpkg -i nvidia-glx-i*
* dpkg -i nvidia-set*

Change your X server as per usual. I think some people make their 
generated packages available on the web.


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-17 Thread Tony Power
Hi!
I can't do:
* dpkg -i nvidia-set*
Because I didn't get any nvidia-set*.
Is this a problem?On 11/17/05, Jo Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Graham Smith wrote:On Sunday 13 November 2005 00:30, Alan Ianson wrote:On Sat November 12 2005 04:01 pm, Stefan Salewski wrote:Hello,
next week I will try to install debian-amd64 on a new computerwith a nvidia graphic card (7800GTX).I don't really like these closed source drivers from ati and
nvidia, but I think I have to use it.I have just done some google search about debian and nvidiadrivers. Some people recommend not to install the nvidia way,
but to use the debian way. I found only one detailed explanationabout how to do it:
http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.htmlThis tutorial is very nice, but I am not sure if it is anofficial debian recommendation and if it will work for AMD64
too.Can you comment on this? Are there other tutorials around? Will Ihave only textmode available until I install the nvidia driver,or will the X-Org driver give mean unaccelerated graphical
display?You can use the nv driver in the mean time. That's what I have been usinghere and it works fine. I don't know for sure what the difference is but I
think if you want 3D acceleration (for gaming) you may need the nvidiadrivers. I've been trying to get them installed too, so I'll be watchingthis thread.
The difference, at least to my eyes, is much better font rendering and agenerally over all shaper image with the nvidia drivers compared to nv. Ididn't realize that a driver could make so much difference but switching to
nvidia after using nv for a while was like getting a new monitor.Having said that I can't get the nvidia drivers to work with 2.6.14 but theywork fine with 2.6.12.Graham
2.6.14 requires newer drivers than those in sarge or sid:* add deb-src http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian experimental main contribnon-free to /etc/apt/sources.list
* go to a new empty folder* apt-get update* apt-get source -t experimental nvidia-glx* apt-get build-dep nvidia-glx* cd nvidia** dpkg-buildpackage
* cd ..* dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-source** apt-get install module-assistant build-essential* cat /proc/version - make sure your kernel's gcc is installed (e.g.
gcc-3.4 must be installed if your kernel was compiled with gcc 3.4.x)* wgetftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/n/nvidia-kernel-common/nvidia-kernel-common_20051028+1_all.deb
* dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-common** m-a a-i nvidia* dpkg -i nvidia-glx_** dpkg -i nvidia-glx-i** dpkg -i nvidia-set*Change your X server as per usual. I think some people make their
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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-17 Thread Jo Shields

Tony Power wrote:


Hi!
I can't do:
* dpkg -i nvidia-set*
Because I didn't get any nvidia-set*.
Is this a problem?

On 11/17/05, *Jo Shields* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Graham Smith wrote:

On Sunday 13 November 2005 00:30, Alan Ianson wrote:


On Sat November 12 2005 04:01 pm, Stefan Salewski wrote:


Hello,

next week I will try to install debian-amd64 on a new computer
with a nvidia graphic card (7800GTX).

I don't really like these closed source drivers from ati and
nvidia, but I think I have to use it.

I have just done some google search about debian and nvidia
drivers. Some people recommend not to install the nvidia way,
but to use the debian way. I found only one detailed explanation
about how to do it:


http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
http://home.comcast.net/%7Eandrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html

This tutorial is very nice, but I am not sure if it is an
official debian recommendation and if it will work for AMD64
too.

Can you comment on this? Are there other tutorials around? Will I
have only textmode available until I install the nvidia driver,
or will the X-Org driver give me  an unaccelerated graphical
display?


You can use the nv driver in the mean time. That's what I have
been using
here and it works fine. I don't know for sure what the
difference is but I
think if you want 3D acceleration (for gaming) you may need the
nvidia
drivers. I've been trying to get them installed too, so I'll be
watching
this thread.



The difference, at least to my eyes, is much better font
rendering and a
generally over all shaper image with the nvidia drivers compared
to nv. I
didn't realize that a driver could make so much difference but
switching to
nvidia after using nv for a while was like getting a new monitor.

Having said that I can't get the nvidia drivers to work with
2.6.14 but they
work fine with 2.6.12.

Graham




2.6.14 requires newer drivers than those in sarge or sid:

* add deb-src http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian experimental main contrib
non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list
* go to a new empty folder
* apt-get update
* apt-get source -t experimental nvidia-glx
* apt-get build-dep nvidia-glx
* cd nvidia*
* dpkg-buildpackage
* cd ..
* dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-source*
* apt-get install module-assistant build-essential
* cat /proc/version - make sure your kernel's gcc is installed (e.g.
gcc-3.4 must be installed if your kernel was compiled with gcc 3.4.x)
* wget

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/n/nvidia-kernel-common/nvidia-kernel-common_20051028+1_all.deb;

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/n/nvidia-kernel-common/nvidia-kernel-common_20051028+1_all.deb%22
* dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-common*
* m-a a-i nvidia
* dpkg -i nvidia-glx_*
* dpkg -i nvidia-glx-i*
* dpkg -i nvidia-set*

Change your X server as per usual. I think some people make their
generated packages available on the web.

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My mistake. aptitude install nvidia-settings should be fine.


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-16 Thread Marlon Régis Schmitz
Em Porto Alegre, Terça, 15 Novembro 2005 17:02, Gilles escreveu:
 Hi.

  I have an not so powerfull/new nvidia card, may card is FX5200.
  [...]
 
  Some other notes: the 7174 does not compile om 2.6.14, as one can see in
  the discussion about that
  (http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/11/msg00233.html), and until
  today I have not saw the new package version, 7676, on Debian's
  repositories around the world.

 This is the thread about my attempts (and I have the same card as yours).
Oh GOD! I'm really stupid!!!
Sorry... [8-(
Is good to knowns that some one have the same hardware that I.

 You can add this line:

 #---cut---
 deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/amd64/
 #---cut--

Thank you very much! I already have done this

 in your /etc/apt/sources.list file and you'll get the possibility
 to download the tarball of the 7676 version, from which you can then
 make the installable module (as explained in the above thread).
Yeah! I already have done this too.


 Nevertheless, I still have that problem about having to plug a TV
 cable (although I'm not using the TV-out) because otherwise, the
 digital output does not send the video signal to the monitor upon
 X server startup.

As I have said before, with nv driver I can't do the TV-out works 
propoerly. 
Now I have used the deb ... line on my sources.list and ahve compiled(again) 
the modules to get the thing on debian way.

 If you find a solution, I'd be happy to hear about it.

Well...I have two things to you:

First - I use SVIDEO and not composite on TVOutFormat option.
Two - I have explicitely say to the Xserver which I have CRT and TV 
connected 
to the card.

I will send my xorg.conf and you can see what a have done.

Good lucky to you!!!


 Best regards,
 Gilles
# File generated by xorgconfig.

#
# Copyright 2004 The X.Org Foundation
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the Software),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
# 
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
# 
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED AS IS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# The X.Org Foundation BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
# 
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of The X.Org Foundation shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from
# The X.Org Foundation.
#

# **
# Refer to the xorg.conf(5x) man page for details about the format of 
# this file.
# **

# **
# Module section -- this  section  is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **
#
Section Module

# This loads the DBE extension module.

Loaddbe   # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection  extmod
  Optionomit xfree86-dga   # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
Loadtype1
Loadspeedo
Loadfreetype
Loadxtt
#Load   GLcore

# This loads the GLX module
Load   glx
# This loads the DRI module
#Load   dri

EndSection

# **
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **

Section Files

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
# 
# 

FontPath   

Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-16 Thread v0n0
On 11/15/05, Gilles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi.

 
  I have an not so powerfull/new nvidia card, may card is FX5200.
  [...]
 
  Some other notes: the 7174 does not compile om 2.6.14, as one can see in the
  discussion about that
  (http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/11/msg00233.html), and until 
  today
  I have not saw the new package version, 7676, on Debian's repositories 
  around
  the world.

You can try nvidia-update:
deb http://v0n0.altervista.org/debian experimental non-free

However, from my experience Nvidia drivers are much less complicated
to make work than ATI's. It's only a matter of getting latest version!
(eg. I had to tell explicitly the number of chipset in xorg.conf to
make X work on a Xpress 200!!)



Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 05:35:26PM +1100, Dean Hamstead wrote:
 here here
 
 is that likely to happen though?

No.  I suspect they consider the development costs too high and the
competition too high for them to release any such stuff at this time.
ATI seems to release enough specs for their older radeon cards
(9200/9250 level) for open source drivers to be developed, although that
takes a lot of work, since they are only releasing the programing info,
not their driver sources showing how they used it to do 3D as far as I
can tell.  nvidia seems to release nothing other than 2D programing info
on their cards.

Anyone got programing specs on an XS24Z?  I have one I would love to see
working with linux (heck even 2D would be a start). :)

Len Sorensen


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-15 Thread A J Stiles
On Tuesday 15 November 2005 06:35, Dean Hamstead wrote:
 here here

 is  [mandatory full disclosure]  likely to happen though?

 Dean

Just maybe, but we will have to fight for it.

As I've already suggested, it's a common-law property right; but right now, 
too few people care about it for anybody to be able to enforce it  {UK, 
Aussie and US legal systems all work on a 'might makes right' basis}.  The 
typical response I've had when trying to explain how Open Source works is 
Well, it's a fantastic idea, politically; but I'm not a programmer, so what 
good is the source code to *me*?  Or, worse, But it's easy enough to get 
Windows and Office without paying for them, doesn't that mean Microsoft still 
lose out?

Something needs to happen to -make- people care about their rights.

The Sony rootkit case, when it comes to court, will present a great 
opportunity to raise awareness of how consumers' rights are being cynically 
trampled upon by manufacturers who care only about making money and not about 
the people who helped them make it in the first place.  

The next release of Microsoft Office, with the usual proprietary file format 
lockdown shenanigans, will present another excel-lent opportunity  {Why 
can't I open this spreadsheet that my friend sent me?}.

It's my bold assertion that cheap graphics cards start out fundamentally 
identical to their high-end brethren, but selected features are disabled by 
modifying the firmware and driver software.  {It's conceivable that even the 
amount of heat generated by the card would be controllable through software 
alone: CMOS logic gates only produce heat when they change state, and if 
fewer gates are changing state and/or they are doing so less often, then less 
heat will be generated; hence a simple lump of metal will do the job of 
cooling a cheap card, where an expensive one with the same processor might 
need a fan.}  It would be evident from studying the secrets which an owner 
of such a card is rightfully in on, how this is being done; manufacturers 
are hiding behind the dubious legal fiction of intellectual property to 
conceal their duplicity.

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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-15 Thread Marlon Régis Schmitz

Hi guys,

I'm not really sure if this was answered before on this discussion list 
but 
here I go.

I have an not so powerfull/new nvidia card, may card is FX5200. I have 
two 
system with the same card, but the amount of GDDR is diferent, on my athlonXP 
I have FX5200 with 128MB and on my new AMD64 the same with 256MB of GDDR.

I never make the TV-out work sucessifully until now. Oh right.. I have 
not do 
my best to this until now. But I verify that with nv driver TV-out does not 
work properly.

Two days ago I use apt-get upgrade to keep my system up to date and get 
a new 
kernel version(linux-image-2.6.14...), so a must to compile a new nvidia 
driver(I like do the things in this way). But the 7174 driver does not 
compile fine. So let's go get 7676 from nvidia. This compiles and runs fine 
and a surprise to me! the TV-out has work!

I really don't known if is a problem of my cards or of nv driver, and 
to be 
honest, I'm not do the best to get TV-out work with previous nvida driver, or 
with previous nv driver, but I known which the current nv driver TV-out does 
not work to me, don't matter what I put on my xorg.conf. Whit 7676 driver 
compiled the TV-out work.

Some other notes: the 7174 does not compile om 2.6.14, as one can see 
in the 
discussion about that 
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/11/msg00233.html), and until today 
I have not saw the new package version, 7676, on Debian's repositories around 
the world.

I hope this helps some, 'cos some cards can not work fully with nv 
driver and 
compile nvidia driver can bring some pain to the user.





ps: i'm really really sorry if my english is too ugly.

Em Porto Alegre, Terça, 15 Novembro 2005 13:41, Lennart Sorensen escreveu:
 On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 05:35:26PM +1100, Dean Hamstead wrote:
  here here
 
  is that likely to happen though?

 No.  I suspect they consider the development costs too high and the
 competition too high for them to release any such stuff at this time.
 ATI seems to release enough specs for their older radeon cards
 (9200/9250 level) for open source drivers to be developed, although that
 takes a lot of work, since they are only releasing the programing info,
 not their driver sources showing how they used it to do 3D as far as I
 can tell.  nvidia seems to release nothing other than 2D programing info
 on their cards.

 Anyone got programing specs on an XS24Z?  I have one I would love to see
 working with linux (heck even 2D would be a start). :)

 Len Sorensen



Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-15 Thread Gilles
Hi.

 
 I have an not so powerfull/new nvidia card, may card is FX5200. 
 [...]
 
 Some other notes: the 7174 does not compile om 2.6.14, as one can see in the 
 discussion about that 
 (http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/11/msg00233.html), and until today 
 I have not saw the new package version, 7676, on Debian's repositories around 
 the world.

This is the thread about my attempts (and I have the same card as yours).

You can add this line:

#---cut---
deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/amd64/
#---cut--

in your /etc/apt/sources.list file and you'll get the possibility
to download the tarball of the 7676 version, from which you can then
make the installable module (as explained in the above thread).


Nevertheless, I still have that problem about having to plug a TV
cable (although I'm not using the TV-out) because otherwise, the
digital output does not send the video signal to the monitor upon
X server startup.

If you find a solution, I'd be happy to hear about it.


Best regards,
Gilles


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-15 Thread Ricardo Mones
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 08:02:29PM +0100, Gilles wrote:
 
 Nevertheless, I still have that problem about having to plug a TV
 cable (although I'm not using the TV-out) because otherwise, the
 digital output does not send the video signal to the monitor upon
 X server startup.
 
 If you find a solution, I'd be happy to hear about it.

  I used to use:

  Option  IgnoreDisplayDevices  TV
  
  in the Section Device of the XF86config-4 file, now with X.org it
  still works, but frankly I don't know if the setting was migrated or
  simply it works out of the box.

  regards,
-- 
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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-15 Thread Christoph Fassbach

Ricardo Mones wrote:


On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 08:02:29PM +0100, Gilles wrote:
 


Nevertheless, I still have that problem about having to plug a TV
cable (although I'm not using the TV-out) because otherwise, the
digital output does not send the video signal to the monitor upon
X server startup.

If you find a solution, I'd be happy to hear about it.
   



 I used to use:

 Option  IgnoreDisplayDevices  TV
 
 in the Section Device of the XF86config-4 file, now with X.org it

 still works, but frankly I don't know if the setting was migrated or
 simply it works out of the box.

 regards,
 


Hi,

in my DualHead (provided by Xorg) Setup, I use

   Option  ConnectedMonitor CRT-0
   Screen  0

   Option  ConnectedMonitor CRT-1
   Screen  1

while in TwinView (provided by the NVidia drivers) I use

   Option  ConnectedMonitor CRT-0, CRT-1
.

I suppose this should solve your problem, too.

Especially, it is quite nice for creating multi monitor desktops.

Greetings,

Christoph


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-14 Thread A J Stiles
On Sunday 13 November 2005 00:01, Stefan Salewski wrote:
 Hello,

 next week I will try to install debian-amd64 on a new computer
 with a nvidia graphic card (7800GTX).

 I don't really like these closed source drivers from ati and
 nvidia, but I think I have to use it.

You probably *don't* have to use it -- the open source nv driver works 
perfectly for me.

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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-14 Thread A J Stiles
On Monday 14 November 2005 11:18, Jo Shields wrote:
 Nobody buys a £400 graphics card for slow 2D

If I had paid £400 for a piece of hardware, I would expect it to come with a 
neatly-bound programmer's manual explaining everything I would need to know 
to write my own driver.  If I own the card, then I am privy to any secret 
which may be embodied in it.

I really hope the law is changed soon to mandate full disclosure, and thus 
prevent manufacturers from abusing the people who pay their wages.

-- 
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delta echo bravo six four at earthshod dot co dot uk



Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-14 Thread Jo Shields

A J Stiles wrote:


On Sunday 13 November 2005 00:01, Stefan Salewski wrote:
 


Hello,

next week I will try to install debian-amd64 on a new computer
with a nvidia graphic card (7800GTX).

I don't really like these closed source drivers from ati and
nvidia, but I think I have to use it.
   



You probably *don't* have to use it -- the open source nv driver works 
perfectly for me.


 


Nobody buys a £400 graphics card for slow 2D


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-14 Thread Dean Hamstead

here here

is that likely to happen though?

Dean

A J Stiles wrote:

On Monday 14 November 2005 11:18, Jo Shields wrote:


Nobody buys a £400 graphics card for slow 2D



If I had paid £400 for a piece of hardware, I would expect it to come with a 
neatly-bound programmer's manual explaining everything I would need to know 
to write my own driver.  If I own the card, then I am privy to any secret 
which may be embodied in it.


I really hope the law is changed soon to mandate full disclosure, and thus 
prevent manufacturers from abusing the people who pay their wages.




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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-13 Thread hjalmar
Hey
I have followed the tutorial and have not had any problems. Seems to run
fine for me but I have a Asus EN6600 Geforce 6600.
Clyde

On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 01:01:31AM +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote:
 Hello,
 
 next week I will try to install debian-amd64 on a new computer 
 with a nvidia graphic card (7800GTX).
 
 I don't really like these closed source drivers from ati and 
 nvidia, but I think I have to use it.
 
 I have just done some google search about debian and nvidia 
 drivers. Some people recommend not to install the nvidia way, 
 but to use the debian way. I found only one detailed explanation 
 about how to do it: 
 
 http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
 
 This tutorial is very nice, but I am not sure if it is an 
 official debian recommendation and if it will work for AMD64 
 too.
 
 Can you comment on this? Are there other tutorials around? Will I 
 have only textmode available until I install the nvidia driver, 
 or will the X-Org driver give me  an unaccelerated graphical 
 display?
 
 Thank you for your support
 
 Stefan Salewski
 
 
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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-12 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sat November 12 2005 04:01 pm, Stefan Salewski wrote:
 Hello,

 next week I will try to install debian-amd64 on a new computer
 with a nvidia graphic card (7800GTX).

 I don't really like these closed source drivers from ati and
 nvidia, but I think I have to use it.

 I have just done some google search about debian and nvidia
 drivers. Some people recommend not to install the nvidia way,
 but to use the debian way. I found only one detailed explanation
 about how to do it:

 http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html

 This tutorial is very nice, but I am not sure if it is an
 official debian recommendation and if it will work for AMD64
 too.

 Can you comment on this? Are there other tutorials around? Will I
 have only textmode available until I install the nvidia driver,
 or will the X-Org driver give me  an unaccelerated graphical
 display?

You can use the nv driver in the mean time. That's what I have been using 
here and it works fine. I don't know for sure what the difference is but I 
think if you want 3D acceleration (for gaming) you may need the nvidia 
drivers. I've been trying to get them installed too, so I'll be watching this 
thread.


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-12 Thread Gilles
Hi.

 
  next week I will try to install debian-amd64 on a new computer
  with a nvidia graphic card (7800GTX).
 

Difficulties with the nvidia driver have been discussed at length
for several weeks.  You might want to read the thread that starts at

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/11/msg00233.html

and references therefrom.  You can then decide which method
(module-assistant or make-kpkg) will best suit your
environment (pre-compiled or self-compiled kernel).


Best,
Gilles


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-12 Thread Christoph Fassbach

Well,

I did not read any of the refered pages yet. I did not know why I should.
Right now I am using an GeForce 6600LE powered PCI-X card with the 
NVidia drivers.

Sure, it could be more comfortable or their license could be better,
but they are running quite nice.

I did it this way:
- got a new kernel source (2.6.14) from kernel.org
- compiled  installed it
- got the self-extracting / installer archive from nvidia.com
- started it
- looked for the points where it installed it's content
- copied all the contents of the various lib64 directories to the 
equivalent lib directories

- removed the lib64 directories
- sym-linked the lib64 to the lib directories
- created a nice dual - headed xorg.conf
- typed startx and had fun.

Where should be any problem? Did I miss anything?

Greetings,

Christoph


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Re: How to install nvidia driver

2005-11-12 Thread Andrew Sharp
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 04:01:46AM +0100, Christoph Fassbach wrote:
 Well,
 
 I did not read any of the refered pages yet. I did not know why I should.
 Right now I am using an GeForce 6600LE powered PCI-X card with the 

I'm sure you meant PCI-E.  Although many of us may wish it, no
manufacturers are making PCI-X video cards.  Even though they should.

a


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