Re: Kernel panic 2.6.8-9, unable to boot at all

2004-10-30 Thread central
Hello ,
try to remove 
root (hd0,0)

I dont know how but for my own system this works

greetings

central




Re: Kernel panic 2.6.8-9, unable to boot at all

2004-10-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I am afraid it didn't work over here.
Cheers,
Ray,
central wrote on 2004-10-30 16:19:
Hello ,
try to remove 
root (hd0,0)

I dont know how but for my own system this works
greetings
central





Re: Kernel panic 2.6.8-9, unable to boot at all

2004-10-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John C. Martin wrote on 2004-10-30 16:42:
Is the driver for the root filesystem device modularized in your kernel?  
Yes, it is modularized. This being the 3ware card, it is part of the
kernel for a very long time.
I just found something somewhat odd while checking if they were
actually both modularized in the config-xxx files in /boot
Yes, they are both modularized. But, since my card is 3ware,
I am not sure if my culprit isn't in these two lines
config for kernel 2.6.7-5
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_3W__RAID=m
config for kernels 2.6.8-1..2.6.8-9
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_3W__RAID=m
  CONFIG_SCSI_3W_9XXX=m
Now... A couple of days ago I asked the 3ware people about
their raid manager stuff for debian, and here is a part
of their reply:
  We are planning to phase these in to the 8000/7000 series
  in the next release. Make sure the controller has the latest
  firmware and driver.
I wonder if having the 2 modules in is what screws up things.
I had the same thing here last week on my systems (Shuttle SN95G5).  The driver 
module supporting the device the root filesystem was on was not being loaded.  
The problem was solved by explicitly adding the module 
to /etc/mkinitrd/modules and rebuilding the initrd image (using a full kernel 
rebuild, I could not get mkinitrd to work for me standalone).  I had to fall 
back to previous kernel I was using (2.6.6) to boot, make these changes, and 
rebuild the kernel.
I added '3w-' (the module I need) to /etc/mkinitrd/modules
With that, I tried to login, but ended up with the same kernel panic stuff.
Now... Do I need a kernel compilation? If so, how on earth can I do
that --I can't even login...
BTW, since I am using stock Debian kernels, is there anywhere I can
download those images from. I might as well try that --easier than
setting up a fresh install, I guess.
Cheers,
Ray



Re: Kernel panic 2.6.8-9, unable to boot at all

2004-10-30 Thread John Goerzen
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 02:18:09PM +0300, Basri Kanca wrote:
 I am in very deep and hot waters...

You can try my DFS CD from http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs.

It contains a kernel that does not* require initrd to boot, and as an
added bonus, has most of the critical drivers for your initial boot
compiled statically.  Make sure to use one of the amd64 kernels if you
have an amd64 userland.

You should be able to mount your existing filesystems, then chroot
into your system to repair it.  There are also instructions on the CD
for installing one of the kernels included on it to your live system.

As a general rule, I never use the initrd kernels for just some of
these reasons.  It's too error-prone.  Once you have your machine
installed, you can build your own kernel, and then the whole need for
the initrd kernels goes away.  (Yes, they're useful if you have to
have a generic kernel, but as far as I'm concerned, that's where the
usefulness ends.)

[*] In the usual sense.  The DFS CD does use an initrd to mount the CD
and do a little housekeeping, but it doesn't use it for drivers, and
when installed on your system, doesn't need an initrd at all.

-- John




Re: Kernel panic 2.6.8-9, unable to boot at all

2004-10-30 Thread John Goerzen
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 06:36:07PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John Goerzen wrote on 2004-10-30 18:10:
 Hi John,
 
 You can try my DFS CD from http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs.
 
 Thank you.
 
 I am not being much a Linux person, yet --I am just a tad
 above newby level :-)
 
 I checked your site and DFS files are all non-amd64, yet
 there is an amd64 image in there

Grab the i386 version.  It has both i386 and amd64 kernels on it.
Just pick the amd64 kernel from the Grub menu and you're set.

It's i386 because the programs on the CD itself are compiled for
i386.  But they run just fine on a 64-bit machine, too, and the CD can
be used to restore a 64-bit installation.

 http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/vmlinuz-2.6.6-amd64
 
 If I placed it in the /boot of the machine (under knoppix),
 would it work with these in grub

It should.  Just make sure you delete the initrd line.  It'll probably
give you enough to get to a root prompt, but then you'll need to
compile or install your own kernel, since this one doesn't support
things like sound or DRI.

 As a general rule, I never use the initrd kernels for just some of
 these reasons.  It's too error-prone.  Once you have your machine
 installed, you can build your own kernel, and then the whole need for
 the initrd kernels goes away.  (Yes, they're useful if you have to
 have a generic kernel, but as far as I'm concerned, that's where the
 usefulness ends.)
 
 I suppose I will have to do just that one day. ATM, I am just
 not brave enough to compile my own kernels :-

It's actually not all that painful under Debian.  There's a Linux
kernel building HOWTO out there.  You can use its instructions to
configure that kernel, and then:

make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot kernel_image

to roll your own .deb of the new kernel.

If you can figure out partitioning, OS installation, bootloaders,
etc., you can figure out kernel building :-)

-- 
John Goerzen
Author, Foundations of Python Network Programming
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590593715




Re: Kernel panic 2.6.8-9, unable to boot at all

2004-10-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Goerzen wrote on 2004-10-30 19:19:
I checked your site and DFS files are all non-amd64, yet
there is an amd64 image in there
Grab the i386 version.  It has both i386 and amd64 kernels on it.
Just pick the amd64 kernel from the Grub menu and you're set.
d/l'ing as I write.
http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/vmlinuz-2.6.6-amd64
If I placed it in the /boot of the machine (under knoppix),
would it work with these in grub
It should.  Just make sure you delete the initrd line.  It'll probably
give you enough to get to a root prompt, but then you'll need to
compile or install your own kernel, since this one doesn't support
things like sound or DRI.
Tries it; but I ended up with a different kernel panic: It keeps
asking for an 'initrd' value. Apparently, 'initrd' just has to
be given.
Just out of curiosity --and ignorance :-) --, why do we need
anything other than vmlinuz. Why can't the whole thing be a
large singular blob :-)
It's actually not all that painful under Debian.  There's a Linux
kernel building HOWTO out there.  You can use its instructions to
configure that kernel, and then:
make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot kernel_image
to roll your own .deb of the new kernel.
If you can figure out partitioning, OS installation, bootloaders,
etc., you can figure out kernel building :-)
Kernel building? Ha! The moment I get myself out of this mess,
I shall set off to climb Mt Everest --no less :-)
Cheers,
Ray



Re: Kernel panic 2.6.8-9, unable to boot at all

2004-10-30 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 why do we need anything other than vmlinuz.  Why can't the whole
 thing be a large singular blob :-)

Because nowadays, that blob would be so large that most bootloaders
and many systems would choke on it.

Regards, Jens.

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