Re: Kernel panics on new machine

2007-10-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 06:48:59PM -0400, Rob Klingsten wrote:
 Yes, I have the DIMMs in banks 1 and 2 out of 4 and I've removed and  
 reseated them;  I have swapped out the SATA cable, there are no PCI  
 or PCI Express cards (system is headless.)
 
 And it looks like it was just that easy;  I pulled one DIMM and ran  
 the system on a single 512, problem gone;  I wrote out 3 separate  
 100gb files without incident.
 
 It makes no sense to me as the RAM was fine in the other system, I  
 never had problems.

What kind of system was the ram in before?

 Oh well, guess I'm getting new RAM.

Get GOOD ram.  Athlon64/Opteron systems are picky.  Well known name
brand ram is not much more money than generic (and usually crap) ram.

 thanks, sorry to trouble the list with such a trivial thing.

Ram is not trivial on AMD systems. :)

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Re: Kernel panics on new machine

2007-10-17 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Wednesday 17 October 2007 16:39, Rob Klingsten wrote:
  Yes, I have the DIMMs in banks 1 and 2 out of 4 and I've removed and
  reseated them;  I have swapped out the SATA cable, there are no PCI
  or PCI Express cards (system is headless.)
 
  And it looks like it was just that easy;  I pulled one DIMM and ran
  the system on a single 512, problem gone;  I wrote out 3 separate
  100gb files without incident.
 
  It makes no sense to me as the RAM was fine in the other system, I
  never had problems.
 
  What kind of system was the ram in before?
 
  Oh well, guess I'm getting new RAM.
 
  Get GOOD ram.  Athlon64/Opteron systems are picky.  Well known name
  brand ram is not much more money than generic (and usually crap) ram.
 
  thanks, sorry to trouble the list with such a trivial thing.
 
  Ram is not trivial on AMD systems. :)

 Thanks again for the help ...  the RAM was used for about 4 months in
 a desktop P4 system on an Asus board.  It is good RAM, Micron from
 Crucial.  I suppose I must have shocked and killed it moving it, but
 before this I have never had that happen in 20 years (and I've built
 many systems.)

 I've ordered Corsair as a replacement.

 thanks!

 Rob


Lately, I mounted 2 stick of ram from one MB to a Asus MB with a AMD Athlon 
4400, and I got the system either not starting (kernel panic) or, when it 
started, I soon had bad memory access, and the system would freeze. I put new 
ram in and everything was OK, except I was frustrated to have lilled the 
memories. First time it happended to me. Then I tried to put them back in, 
and I changed the memory voltage in the bios from auto to 2 V. And, guess 
what, they worked fine, and are still in!!!
My 2 ct.


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Re: Kernel panics on new machine

2007-10-17 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 10:39:05AM -0400, Rob Klingsten wrote:
 
 Ram is not trivial on AMD systems. :)
 
 Thanks again for the help ...  the RAM was used for about 4 months in  
 a desktop P4 system on an Asus board.  It is good RAM, Micron from  
 Crucial.  I suppose I must have shocked and killed it moving it, but  
 before this I have never had that happen in 20 years (and I've built  
 many systems.)

The memory may be as good as it was when you received it.  It still may
work perfectly on the P4.  However, the P4 is (most likely) more
tolerant of memory being off-spec than an AMD which seems to expect that
memory will be at least as good as spec and uses it to its max.

Doug.


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Re: Kernel panics on new machine

2007-10-14 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky

Rob Klingsten wrote:

Hi folks, I am over my head here with kernel panics...

I've got a shiny new system: Tyan S2865 (nforce 4 ultra), AMD Athlon x2 
3800+, a single SATA-2 drive and 1gb of DDR400 RAM.  The board and CPU 
are brand new, the drive and RAM came from a desktop machine which I had 
no problems with so I think those things are ok.


Does the motherboard require the RAM modules to be in pairs? If so, are 
they?


The usual warnings about seating of modules and cables also apply.


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Re: Kernel panics on new machine

2007-10-14 Thread Rob Klingsten
Yes, I have the DIMMs in banks 1 and 2 out of 4 and I've removed and  
reseated them;  I have swapped out the SATA cable, there are no PCI  
or PCI Express cards (system is headless.)


And it looks like it was just that easy;  I pulled one DIMM and ran  
the system on a single 512, problem gone;  I wrote out 3 separate  
100gb files without incident.


It makes no sense to me as the RAM was fine in the other system, I  
never had problems.


Oh well, guess I'm getting new RAM.

thanks, sorry to trouble the list with such a trivial thing.

Rob


Rob Klingsten wrote:

Hi folks, I am over my head here with kernel panics...
I've got a shiny new system: Tyan S2865 (nforce 4 ultra), AMD  
Athlon x2 3800+, a single SATA-2 drive and 1gb of DDR400 RAM.  The  
board and CPU are brand new, the drive and RAM came from a desktop  
machine which I had no problems with so I think those things are ok.


Does the motherboard require the RAM modules to be in pairs? If so,  
are they?


The usual warnings about seating of modules and cables also apply.


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Re: Kernel panics on new machine

2007-10-14 Thread michael

Quoting Rob Klingsten [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Yes, I have the DIMMs in banks 1 and 2 out of 4 and I've removed and
reseated them;  I have swapped out the SATA cable, there are no PCI or
PCI Express cards (system is headless.)

And it looks like it was just that easy;  I pulled one DIMM and ran the
system on a single 512, problem gone;  I wrote out 3 separate 100gb
files without incident.

It makes no sense to me as the RAM was fine in the other system, I
never had problems.



Sometimes dimms just need to be re-seated. Have you tried to put the stick
back in and confirm that your problems come back?


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Re: Kernel panics on new machine

2007-10-14 Thread Rob Klingsten
Sometimes dimms just need to be re-seated. Have you tried to put  
the stick

back in and confirm that your problems come back?


I put the other one back in, and within minutes of coming up and  
trying my dd, I got multiple 'oops' ...


thanks again for the help --

Rob





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Re: Kernel panics on new machine

2007-10-14 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky

Rob Klingsten wrote:
Yes, I have the DIMMs in banks 1 and 2 out of 4 and I've removed and 
reseated them;  I have swapped out the SATA cable, there are no PCI or 
PCI Express cards (system is headless.)


And it looks like it was just that easy;  I pulled one DIMM and ran the 
system on a single 512, problem gone;  I wrote out 3 separate 100gb 
files without incident.


It makes no sense to me as the RAM was fine in the other system, I never 
had problems.


Oh well, guess I'm getting new RAM.

thanks, sorry to trouble the list with such a trivial thing.

Rob


Well ... if you've got the cash, go get four 1 GB DIMMs. Athlon64 X2s 
work very well with 4 GB of RAM. :)



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