Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-29 Thread Koen Vermeer
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 04:51 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 The old archive is discontinued. You should also remove any sarge line
 as that confuses apt-get (sarge and etch/sid have some packages with
 the same version but debian has different debs).
 Just put the official etch in there and things will upgrade as they
 move into etch.

OK, I'll try that. I just delayed messing with it after I saw some
people reporting problems. I'll replace my old deb-line with the new
one, and sew what happens...

Thanks!

Koen



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Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-29 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi Koen:
I wish you success in your frontiersman initiative. Please report in detail 
for conservativeman. It will avoid wasting energies.
francesco pietra 

On Monday 29 May 2006 09:07, Koen Vermeer wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 04:51 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
  The old archive is discontinued. You should also remove any sarge line
  as that confuses apt-get (sarge and etch/sid have some packages with
  the same version but debian has different debs).
  Just put the official etch in there and things will upgrade as they
  move into etch.

 OK, I'll try that. I just delayed messing with it after I saw some
 people reporting problems. I'll replace my old deb-line with the new
 one, and sew what happens...

 Thanks!

 Koen


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Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-29 Thread Koen Vermeer
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 09:07 +0200, Koen Vermeer wrote:
 OK, I'll try that. I just delayed messing with it after I saw some
 people reporting problems. I'll replace my old deb-line with the new
 one, and sew what happens...

My apologies for that 'Allo 'Allo-ish error...

Anyway, I did the replacement of that deb-line, and while I still have a
working system, the result isn't what I expected. I now have the 'some
packages keep getting updated'-syndrom, which was one of the things I
was trying to avoid. In my case, it's libgnokii2, libbonobo2-0 and
libselinux1. One other thing is that xserver-xorg cannot be updated due
to a missing dependency, but that's not a major issue. I just hope the
updates of those three packages will be fixed automagically some time in
the near future.

Koen


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Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-29 Thread Francesco Pietra
So, your hope is in sorcery.
francesco

On Monday 29 May 2006 18:35, Koen Vermeer wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 09:07 +0200, Koen Vermeer wrote:
  OK, I'll try that. I just delayed messing with it after I saw some
  people reporting problems. I'll replace my old deb-line with the new
  one, and sew what happens...

 My apologies for that 'Allo 'Allo-ish error...

 Anyway, I did the replacement of that deb-line, and while I still have a
 working system, the result isn't what I expected. I now have the 'some
 packages keep getting updated'-syndrom, which was one of the things I
 was trying to avoid. In my case, it's libgnokii2, libbonobo2-0 and
 libselinux1. One other thing is that xserver-xorg cannot be updated due
 to a missing dependency, but that's not a major issue. I just hope the
 updates of those three packages will be fixed automagically some time in
 the near future.

 Koen


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Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-29 Thread Koen Vermeer
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 17:43 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 So, your hope is in sorcery.

Well, I guess that once there is a truly newer version of those packages
in the official etch repository, the confusion is over. We'll see what
happens. In my case, it's only three packages, so I can live with it for
now. On the other hand, I am not very happy with it, but I don't have
any idea to whom I should complain.

Koen



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Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-29 Thread Francesco Pietra
I was joking. Sorcery was related to automagically in your previous mail. Be 
sure that I appreciate very much your efforts.
francesco pietra

On Monday 29 May 2006 19:37, Koen Vermeer wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 17:43 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
  So, your hope is in sorcery.

 Well, I guess that once there is a truly newer version of those packages
 in the official etch repository, the confusion is over. We'll see what
 happens. In my case, it's only three packages, so I can live with it for
 now. On the other hand, I am not very happy with it, but I don't have
 any idea to whom I should complain.

 Koen


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Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Koen Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 09:07 +0200, Koen Vermeer wrote:
 OK, I'll try that. I just delayed messing with it after I saw some
 people reporting problems. I'll replace my old deb-line with the new
 one, and sew what happens...

 My apologies for that 'Allo 'Allo-ish error...

 Anyway, I did the replacement of that deb-line, and while I still have a
 working system, the result isn't what I expected. I now have the 'some
 packages keep getting updated'-syndrom, which was one of the things I
 was trying to avoid. In my case, it's libgnokii2, libbonobo2-0 and
 libselinux1. One other thing is that xserver-xorg cannot be updated due
 to a missing dependency, but that's not a major issue. I just hope the
 updates of those three packages will be fixed automagically some time in
 the near future.

 Koen

Run apt-get clean and don't have any inofficial amd64 archive in your
sources.list.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-29 Thread Koen Vermeer
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:53 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Run apt-get clean and don't have any inofficial amd64 archive in your
 sources.list.

Cool, that's better than waiting for the automagical fix! :-) Thanks for
the pointers!

Koen



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Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-29 Thread Anthony DeRobertis

Koen Vermeer wrote:


I now have the 'some
packages keep getting updated'-syndrom, which was one of the things I
was trying to avoid.


One alternative to Goswin's suggestion of apt-get clean is to manually 
go in to /var/cache/apt/archives and remove the specific package/version 
involved.



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Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-28 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

For etch to have
all amd64 packages every package has to migrate to etch. That just
takes time.

  

And if packages happen to have RC bugs, then that takes an even longer
time. ;-)


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Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

For etch to have
all amd64 packages every package has to migrate to etch. That just
takes time.

  

 And if packages happen to have RC bugs, then that takes an even longer
 time. ;-)

Time is ageless. :)

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-28 Thread Gleidson Echeli Leopoldo

Koen Vermeer wrote:


So, what is the right way to handle things if one has a running etch
system (based on debian-amd64, with a line in sources.list such as 'deb
ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ testing contrib main
non-free')? 


For etch/testing the mirror is:

ftp://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free


Do nothing until the full official etch repository is
available? 


ftp://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free

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Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Koen Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 09:34 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
 For etch to have
 all amd64 packages every package has to migrate to etch. That just
 takes time.
 And if packages happen to have RC bugs, then that takes an even longer
 time. ;-)

 So, what is the right way to handle things if one has a running etch
 system (based on debian-amd64, with a line in sources.list such as 'deb
 ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ testing contrib main
 non-free')? Do nothing until the full official etch repository is
 available? Or should one add a line to sources.list that includes the
 new, official stuff?

 Koen

The old archive is discontinued. You should also remove any sarge line
as that confuses apt-get (sarge and etch/sid have some packages with
the same version but debian has different debs).

Just put the official etch in there and things will upgrade as they
move into etch.

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Lots of packets are missing in amd64/etch...

2006-05-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Alexander Vlasov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello.

 I've just received a new server on amd64 (em64t) platform and tried to
 install sarge. 
 Unfortunately, hardware is hardly supported by sarge, so I dist-upgraded
 to etch immediately after install.

 But now I faced the strange problem: a lot of packages aren't available
 in amd64 etch.
 And one of the nastiest things is unavailable gcc 8( So I can't install
 pbuilder and rebuild packages by myself.

 Can anyone explain me what's going on? Is official arch inclusion not
 over yet? Where can I find the progress reports?

 Thanks a lot in advance.

 PS. Please CC me, I'm not on the list

Debian sid amd64 is being autobuild. From there packages slowly
migrate to etch simultanious for every architecture with the usual
rules (minimum age, no new bugs, depends are there). For etch to have
all amd64 packages every package has to migrate to etch. That just
takes time.

Looking at gcc packages.qa.debian.org tells me the following:

http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gcc-defaults.html

* 10 days old (needed 10 days)
* gcj/m68k unsatisfiable Depends: gcj-4.1 (= 4.1.0-2)
* gij/m68k unsatisfiable Depends: gij-4.1 (= 4.1.0-2)
* gobjc++/m68k unsatisfiable Depends: gobjc++-4.1 (= 4.1.0-2)
* libgcj-dev/m68k unsatisfiable Depends: libgcj7-dev (= 4.1.0-2)
* cpp (i386, alpha, hppa, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, amd64, arm, m68k, 
s390, sparc) is (less) buggy! (1 = 1)
* Valid candidate
* Invalidated by dependency
* Not considered
* Depends: gcc-defaults gcj-4.1 (not considered)

An gcj-4.1 is blocked by freetype which in turn is only 5 out of 10
days old.

MfG
Goswin


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