Re: What is the evidence for and against systemd?
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 03:34:45PM +0200, jp.po...@izzop.net wrote: > I really hate systemd, since it is installed on one of my machine > starting and stopping the system are painful. > Starting is more than one minute with the X screen appearing at the very > end. > Stopping is the more painful thing, that machine wait more than 7 > minutes before to stop, other systems are stopping in less than 1 > minute. > As someone noticed "samba" is often the culprit taking 5 minutes to stop > the service. > I want really often to unplug the cord ! But didn't do it. > Systemd is hard to understant and even harder to diagnose when something > goes wrong as it did often. At least the 5 minute wait for samba goes away if you clean up the /etc/rc*.d/*samba symlinks that samba never removed when it split the init script. Those leftovers that no other init system is bothered by really upset systemd. Doesn't fix systemd's many problems, but at least removes the 5 minute shutdown delay. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141016181137.ga24...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Re: What is the evidence for and against systemd?
Hello, I really hate systemd, since it is installed on one of my machine starting and stopping the system are painful. Starting is more than one minute with the X screen appearing at the very end. Stopping is the more painful thing, that machine wait more than 7 minutes before to stop, other systems are stopping in less than 1 minute. As someone noticed "samba" is often the culprit taking 5 minutes to stop the service. I want really often to unplug the cord ! But didn't do it. Systemd is hard to understant and even harder to diagnose when something goes wrong as it did often. Regards JP P -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1413466485.10268.1.ca...@izzop.net
Re: What is the evidence for and against systemd?
see the specifics). I'm all in favour of hardware memory protection and the like separating disparate system components as a step in the direction of safety, and I already deplore the monolithicity of the Linux kernel. (Perhaps formal verification would be an adequate substitute, but we're not there yet.) But with adequate code review and such we manage to get along. OpenVMS had it right. Split it up, put the pieces in their own cpu ring and have them pass messages. Processes never get escalated privileges. People had a lot of fun *trying* to break in to OpenVMS at Defcon -> http://deathrow.vistech.net/defcon.txt Dean -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/f173ae24cdeccaa4f8a307ecebcc5...@fragfest.com.au
