SOLVED: Software-RAID1 on sarge (AMD64) (was: Re: install-mbr on amd64?)

2006-05-28 Thread Kilian
In the last few days, I was struggling to convert a remote machine with 
two identical SATA disks (sda and sdb) to a Software RAID 1. Especially 
the boot-part was tricky as I had no console access to the machine. The 
whole procedure was done remotely via SSH. I use the md tools (mdadm) 
and lilo as bootloader. I chose LILO because IMHO it's more 
straightforward in this setup than GRUB and I have no other Operating 
Systems I would want to boot.


The system was installed on the first disk, the second one has not been 
used before. Those are the steps I went through:



1.  Install a Software-RAID capable kernel and boot the system with it;
Install the md tools: 'apt-get install mdadm';


2.  partition the second harddrive (sdb). I created two partitions, a
large one at the beginning of the disk (sdb1) and a small
swap-partition at the end (sdb2). I do not use separate /boot
partitions.

NOTE: I do not use two swap spaces on the two disks; instead, I
create a RAID array consisting of the two smaller partitions on the
two discs and create the swap space on it. In case of a disk
failure, I don't need to reboot the system because the swap space
is also on RAID. Otherwise, a disk failure would toast one swap
space, probably leaving the system in a unusable state until
rebooted.

Important: both partitions need to be of the type 0xFD Linux raid
autodetect


3.  Create the RAID arrays:

$ mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-disks=2 missing /dev/sdb1
$ mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-disks=2 missing /dev/sdb2


4.  Create filesystems

$ mkfs -t xfs /dev/md0
$ mkswap /dev/md1

I use XFS as filesystem because it has such nice features as online
resizing etc and is, IMHO, very stable and mature. Of course you can
use whatever you like.


5.  Copy the existing Debian system to the new RAID

$ mkdir -p /mnt/newroot
$ mount /dev/md0 /mnt/newroot
$ cd /
$ find . -xdev | cpio -pm /mnt/newroot


6.  To see if the the new RAID array comes up properly after a reboot,
add the following line to /etc/fstab of the system still running
from sda:

 /dev/md0   /mnt/newroot   xfs   defaults   0  0

 Reboot and check with mount if /dev/md0 is mounted properly.


7.  I now modified /etc/lilo.conf of the system still running from sda
so that on the next reboot, /dev/md0 would be mounted as root
filesystem while lilo would still access /boot on sda:

# START /etc/lilo.conf
lba32
delay=50
map=/boot/map
boot=/dev/sda
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16.18
  label=RAID
  root=/dev/md0
  read-only
  alias=1

image=/boot/vmlinuz-OLD
  label=LinuxOLD
  root=/dev/sda1
  read-only
  alias=2
# END /etc/lilo.conf

This way, we still have a working boot (LinuxOLD) which uses
/dev/sda1 as root in case anything goes wrong (NOTE: sda1 is the
root partition of the old, non-RAID system).


8.  Run LILO
First, run

$ lilo -t -v

to see what lilo would do. If everything is OK do:

$ lilo -v
$ lilo -v -R RAID

This way, lilo chooses the image labeled RAID on the next reboot. On
every subsequent reboot, the next entry will be used (so the image
specified with -R gets used only one time). So if the system
doesn't come up, you can reset it and lilo will boot the other
image.


9.  Edit the new fstab
The new fstab, located at /mnt/newroot/etc/fstab, must now be
changed so that /dev/md0 gets mounted as root filesystem:

# START /mnt/newroot/etc/fstab
/dev/md0 /   xfs  defaults0  0
/dev/md1 swapswap
proc /proc   proc
# END /mnt/newroot/etc/fstab


10. Reboot the system. If it comes up, check with mount if /dev/md0
is mounted as root filesystem. If it doesn't come up properly,
just reset the machine / reboot it and it will boot the other
image.


11. Integrade sda into RAID array
First, repartition sda exactly as sdb. The partitions must either
be of the exact size or greater than those on sdb. Also, the
partition type must be 0xFD.
Then, integrate the partitions into the existing RAID array:

$ mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sda1
$ mdadm --add /dev/md1 /dev/sda2

Now the arrays are being synchronized. Check with

$ watch cat /proc/mdstat

that the sync proccess is running. You must wait for this
process to complete on both arrays.


12. Modify lilo.conf
Now we want to boot completely from /dev/md0:

# START /etc/lilo.conf
lba32
boot=/dev/md0
root=/dev/md0
install=/boot/boot-menu.b
map=/boot/map
prompt
delay=50
timeout=50
vga=normal
raid-extra-boot=/dev/sda,/dev/sdb
default=RAID

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16.18
label=RAID
read-only
root=/dev/md0
alias=1

image=/boot/vmlinuz-OLD
label=LinuxOLD
read-only

Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 09:28:07PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 man grub-install:
grub-install copies GRUB images into the DIR/boot directory specfied by
--root-directory, and uses the grub shell to install grub into the boot
sector.
 
 Your command line would install to /boot/boot/.
 
 grub-install --no-floppy /dev/md0

grub-install seems to have issues with seperate boot partitions.  If you
create a symlink inside boot called boot pointing to itself, then
grub-install is fine with it.

cd /boot; ln -s . boot

With that there is no problem with grub on raid1 /boot.

With boot in / on raid1 it just works.

Len Sorensen


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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 02:07:54AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Then pull a disk (the right one) and see it stop booting. From
 grub-install:
 
 # Usage: getraid_mdadm mddevice
 # Routine to find a physical device from an md device
 # If found, the first grub BIOS device (from device.map) is returned 
 # If no BIOS drives match the RAID devices, the first device returned
 # from mdadm -D is returned
 
 Only one of your disks is bootable. By setting up each device in
 device.map in turn you get grub on each of them.

I run grub-install /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, and both disks are perfectly
bootable.  I have tested this.

Len Sorensen


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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 02:09:27PM +0200, Alexander Sieck wrote:
 Goswin is right. I have installed etch on amd64 and configured
 RAID1, LVM and grub in d-i.
 
 # BEGIN-CLI
 deb64a:~# df
 Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
 /dev/md1   1829101189101   1542410  11% /
 /dev/md0 60093 19372 37515  35% /boot
 ...
 # END-CLI
 
 After the installation only the MBR on /dev/sda contains meaningful
 data, whereas the MBR on /dev/sdb contains mostly zeros.

True.  You have to install grub to both drives, and the installer only
does it to one of them.  Easily fixed manually.

 # BEGIN-CLI
 deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 12
 1+0 records in
 1+0 records out
 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 2.2e-05 seconds, 23.3 MB/s
 000 044353 150220 000274 175574 003520 017520 137374 076033
 020 015677 050006 134527 000745 122363 136713 003676 002261
 040 067070 076000 072411 101423 010305 172342 014315 172613
 060 143203 044420 014564 026070 173164 132640 132007 001003
 100 000377 02 01 00 001000 100372 100312 051752
 120 000174 030400 107300 107330 136320 02 120373 076100
 140 177474 001164 141210 137122 076571 032350 173001 100302
 160 052164 040664 125273 146525 055023 071122 100511 052773
 200 072652 120103 076101 140204 002565 160603 072001 063067
 220 046213 137020 076005 042306 000777 105546 042036 143574
 240 010004 143400 001104 01 104546 004134 042307 06
 260 063160 140061 042211 063004 042211 132014 146502 071023
 
 deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 12
 1+0 records in
 1+0 records out
 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 2.1e-05 seconds, 24.4 MB/s
 000 134372 01 150216 000274 134260 00 154216 140216
 020 137373 076000 000277 134406 001000 122363 020752 06
 040 137000 003676 002070 005565 143203 100420 177376 072407
 060 165763 132026 130002 135401 076000 100262 072212 105401
 100 001114 011715 000352 000174 165400 000376 00 00
 120 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 140 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 160 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 200 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 220 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 240 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 260 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 # END-CLI
 
 After running 'grub-install' on /dev/sdb, both MBRs, on /dev/sda
 and /dev/sdb, contain the right data.
 
 # BEGIN-CLI
 deb64a:~# grub-install --root-directory=/boot --no-floppy /dev/sdb
 Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
 Installation finished. No error reported.
 This is the contents of the device map /boot/boot/grub/device.map.
 Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
 fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.
 
 (hd0)   /dev/sda
 (hd1)   /dev/sdb
 
 deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 12
 1+0 records in
 1+0 records out
 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.000638 seconds, 803 kB/s
 000 044353 150220 000274 175574 003520 017520 137374 076033
 020 015677 050006 134527 000745 122363 136713 003676 002261
 040 067070 076000 072411 101423 010305 172342 014315 172613
 060 143203 044420 014564 026070 173164 132640 132007 001003
 100 000377 02 01 00 001000 100372 100312 051752
 120 000174 030400 107300 107330 136320 02 120373 076100
 140 177474 001164 141210 137122 076571 032350 173001 100302
 160 052164 040664 125273 146525 055023 071122 100511 052773
 200 072652 120103 076101 140204 002565 160603 072001 063067
 220 046213 137020 076005 042306 000777 105546 042036 143574
 240 010004 143400 001104 01 104546 004134 042307 06
 260 063160 140061 042211 063004 042211 132014 146502 071023
 deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 12
 1+0 records in
 1+0 records out
 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.013082 seconds, 39.1 kB/s
 000 044353 010220 150216 000274 134260 00 154216 140216
 020 137373 076000 000277 134406 001000 122363 020752 06
 040 137000 003676 002070 005565 143203 100420 177376 072407
 060 165763 132026 130002 135401 076000 100262 072212 001003
 100 000201 02 01 00 001000 110372 173220 100302
 120 001165 100262 054752 000174 030400 107300 107330 136320
 140 02 120373 076100 177474 001164 141210 137122 076577
 160 032350 173001 100302 052164 040664 125273 146525 055023
 200 071122 100511 052773 072652 120103 076101 140204 002565
 220 160603 072001 063067 046213 137020 076005 042306 000777
 240 105546 042036 143574 010004 143400 001104 01 104546
 260 004134 042307 06 063160 140061 042211 063004 042211
 # END-CLI
 
 I did not unplug or replugged the HDs, but I changed the
 HD boot 

Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-21 Thread Alexander Sieck
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 09:38:16PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Alexander Sieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  After running 'grub-install' on /dev/sdb, both MBRs, on /dev/sda
  and /dev/sdb, contain the right data.
 
 Some data but the right data? The two MBRs should be identical or not?
 Have you tried removing sda and boot or swap sda and sdb around and
 boot? (below I see you haven't fully tested that)
 
Hello,

maybe you got me wrong, since my wording was misleading.

I think we agree on this:
Without additional actions after configuring RAID1 and installing
grub, the MBR on the 2nd disk contains mainly zeros.
From this it looks like the 2nd drive is not bootable directly.

How to make the 2nd disk bootable is still not fully clarified
and a proof of the approach is still missing.

Goswin wrote further up in this thread, that the 2nd disk can be
made bootable by switching sda to sdb in /boot/grub/device.map
and running grub-install. He could not remember, if additional
changes to fstab or mtab were required.

I tried to not change device.map, but just run
# BEGIN-CLI
deb64a:~# grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sdb
# END-CLI

The option --root-directory=/boot was wrong, since this creates
/boot/boot/grub.

After running grub-install on /dev/sdb the MBR of the 2nd drive
/dev/sdb contains _some_ data. By just looking at the octal numbers
I cannot tell, if it is really bootable.

  # BEGIN-CLI
  deb64a:~# grub-install --root-directory=/boot --no-floppy /dev/sdb
  Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
  Installation finished. No error reported.
  This is the contents of the device map /boot/boot/grub/device.map.
  Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
  fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.
 
  (hd0)   /dev/sda
  (hd1)   /dev/sdb
 
 
 Lets interleave the data for comparision:
  deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 12
  deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 12
 
  000 044353 150220 000274 175574 003520 017520 137374 076033
  000 044353 010220 150216 000274 134260 00 154216 140216
 
  020 015677 050006 134527 000745 122363 136713 003676 002261
  020 137373 076000 000277 134406 001000 122363 020752 06
 ... 
  # END-CLI

I as well had expected that the MBRs of both disks should be
identical and do not know in the moment, if they need to be
byte by byte identical.

Now I have tested Goswins approach:
# BEGIN-CLI
deb64a:/boot/grub# cat device.map 
(hd0)   /dev/sdb
(hd1)   /dev/sda
deb64a:/boot/grub# grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sdb
Installation finished. No error reported.
This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map.
Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.

(hd0)   /dev/sdb
(hd1)   /dev/sda
deb64a:/boot/grub# dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 8
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.016311 seconds, 31.4 kB/s
000 044353 150220 000274 175574 003520 017520 137374 076033
020 015677 050006 134527 000745 122363 136713 003676 002261
040 067070 076000 072411 101423 010305 172342 014315 172613
060 143203 044420 014564 026070 173164 132640 132007 001003
100 000377 02 01 00 001000 100372 100312 051752
120 000174 030400 107300 107330 136320 02 120373 076100
140 177474 001164 141210 137122 076571 032350 173001 100302
160 052164 040664 125273 146525 055023 071122 100511 052773
deb64a:/boot/grub# dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 8
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.006904 seconds, 74.2 kB/s
000 044353 010220 150216 000274 134260 00 154216 140216
020 137373 076000 000277 134406 001000 122363 020752 06
040 137000 003676 002070 005565 143203 100420 177376 072407
060 165763 132026 130002 135401 076000 100262 072212 001003
100 000377 02 01 00 001000 110372 173220 100302
120 001165 100262 054752 000174 030400 107300 107330 136320
140 02 120373 076100 177474 001164 141210 137122 076577
160 032350 173001 100302 052164 040664 125273 146525 055023
# END-CLI

That is, also after changing sda to sdb in device.map, the
two MBRs are not identical.

Maybe Goswin, or somebody else who enabled booting from both
disks with RAID1 and grub, can give the output of
'dd if=xxx[ab] bs=512 count=1 | od' on their system.

  I did not unplug or replugged the HDs, but I changed the
  HD boot order in the BIOS, from IDE-channel2, -channel3 to
  IDE-channel3, -channel2, and can boot in both cases.
 
 Is that the same as removing a disk or does that preserve sda as hd0
 and sdb as hd1 and just boot from hd1?
 
I also think, that unplugging the 1st disk, is the only hard test
(and even that may not be sufficient to simulate a real crash).

Since the time I installed my system a couple of months ago, I would
like to test, how much work it will be to recover from a 

Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-21 Thread D.I. Kulagin



 /dev/md0   /boot   xfs defaults0  0
 /dev/md1   noneswapswap
 /dev/md2   /   xfs defaults0  0
 /dev/md3   /home   xfs defaults0  0
 /dev/md4   /varxfs defaults0  0
 /dev/md5   /var/logxfs defaults0  0
 /dev/md6   /var/tmpxfs defaults0  0
 /dev/md7   /tmpxfs defaults0  0
 proc   /proc   proc

Thanks very much for your time, I really appreciate the help I've 
gotten from all you guys so far very much!


-- Kilian



Can I once again suggest you to use ms-sys and do the following:

# apt-get install ms-sys

# ms-sys -s /dev/sda

# ms-sys -s /dev/sdb

Then mark in fdisk the /dev/md0 underlaying partitions as bootable.
Reformat your /dev/md0 with ext3 filesystem as you can't install lilo
in a xfs partition.
Modify lilo.conf with
boot=/dev/md0
root=/dev/md2

# lilo

And your partitioning is too complex and you will get many problems in
the future if you will want to change the size of any raid partition, so 
I suggest

you to setup a large one raid array from md2-7 and put lvm on it.
With a xfs filesystem you will get online resizing of partitions.



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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Alexander Sieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That is, also after changing sda to sdb in device.map, the
 two MBRs are not identical.

 Maybe Goswin, or somebody else who enabled booting from both
 disks with RAID1 and grub, can give the output of
 'dd if=xxx[ab] bs=512 count=1 | od' on their system.

I just dded the mbr from sda to all raid devices making them identical
the last time I installed.

  I did not unplug or replugged the HDs, but I changed the
  HD boot order in the BIOS, from IDE-channel2, -channel3 to
  IDE-channel3, -channel2, and can boot in both cases.
 
 Is that the same as removing a disk or does that preserve sda as hd0
 and sdb as hd1 and just boot from hd1?
 
 I also think, that unplugging the 1st disk, is the only hard test
 (and even that may not be sufficient to simulate a real crash).

If a disk fails the system should keep running. Thats the point of
raid after all. So when you do reboot it will usualy be to replace the
disk. So I'm not much concerned if the system is still bootable with a
broken disk still connected. It is likely the bios won't like that at
all no matter what the MBR looks like.

 Since the time I installed my system a couple of months ago, I would
 like to test, how much work it will be to recover from a disk-crash.
 So I am willing to test it the hard way by unplugging the 1st
 disk. But this might take some time. Before doing that, I will
 do a backup and figure out how to synchronize the RAID afterwards.

Install qemu, install a base system with raid1 inside it, start qemu
with just harddisk file.

 This sub-thread fits better to debian-user or debian-boot, since it is
 absolutely not related to amd64. Maybe there the chance is higher
 to get people involved which already tested booting from the 2nd disk.
 Maybe Goswin can report, if he unplugged it.

Haven't rebooted once after installation yet.

 I will inform you after the unplug test, if I do not shoot in my own
 toe and mess up my system:-). It is my private machine and not a
 production server, therefore it is not really critical, but I do
 not want to spent too much time.

 Alexander

MfG
Goswin


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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-21 Thread Alexander Sieck
Hello,

I now tested RAID1 together with grub by unplugging the
1st disk (to be sure, I tested with the 2nd as well).

As you can read further up in this thread I did
run 'grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sdb' to install
the boot-loader in the MBR of the 2nd disk /dev/sdb.

Then I halted the computer and unplugged the disk
connected to the SATA0 port.
The system booted without problem and /proc/mdstat
displays only 1 active device in the RAID1:
# BEGIN-CLI
deb64a:~$ cat tmp/mdstat_unplug0.txt 
Personalities : [raid1] 
md3 : active raid1 sda6[1]
  106896384 blocks [2/1] [_U]

md2 : active raid1 sda5[1]
  46877568 blocks [2/1] [_U]

md1 : active raid1 sda2[1]
  1951808 blocks [2/1] [_U]

md0 : active raid1 sda1[1]
  64128 blocks [2/1] [_U]

unused devices: none
# END-CLI

After halting the system I plugged the SATA0 disk in again
and booted.
I had to hot add the sda? partitions to the RAID1 with mdadm:
# BEGIN-CLI
deb64a:~# mdadm /dev/md0 -a /dev/sda1
mdadm: hot added /dev/sda1
deb64a:~# mdadm /dev/md1 -a /dev/sda2
mdadm: hot added /dev/sda2
deb64a:~# mdadm /dev/md2 -a /dev/sda5
mdadm: hot added /dev/sda5
deb64a:~# mdadm /dev/md3 -a /dev/sda6
mdadm: hot added /dev/sda6
# END-CLI

It takes about 40 min to rebuild the 100 GB /dev/md3.
After that /proc/mdstat shows a clean RAID1:
# BEGIN-CLI
deb64a:# cat tmp/mdstat_ok.txt 
Personalities : [raid1] 
md3 : active raid1 sda6[0] sdb6[1]
  106896384 blocks [2/2] [UU]

md2 : active raid1 sda5[0] sdb5[1]
  46877568 blocks [2/2] [UU]

md1 : active raid1 sda2[0] sdb2[1]
  1951808 blocks [2/2] [UU]

md0 : active raid1 sda1[0] sdb1[1]
  64128 blocks [2/2] [UU]

unused devices: none
# END-CLI

Then I repeated the same, but this time I unplugged the disk
connected to the SATA1 port. The system did boot without problems.

Comparing the output of dmesg after unplugging SATA0 vs. SATA1
shows that I unplugged different disks each time:
# BEGIN-CLI
deb64a:~$ diff tmp/dmesg_unplug[01].txt | grep 'sd[ab]' 
# SCSI device sda: 312581808 512-byte hdwr sectors (160042 MB)
# SCSI device sda: 312579695 512-byte hdwr sectors (160041 MB)
# SCSI device sda: 312581808 512-byte hdwr sectors (160042 MB)
# SCSI device sda: 312579695 512-byte hdwr sectors (160041 MB)
# sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
# sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
# END-CLI

Another proof is the output of mdadm -D /dev/md0' after the reboot
with readded disk but before doing the hot add:
# BEGIN-CLI
deb64a:# cat tmp/mdadm_replug0.txt | tail -n 3
Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
   0   00-  removed
   1   8   171  active  sync   /dev/sdb1
deb64a:# cat tmp/mdadm_replug1.txt | tail -n 3
Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
   0   810  active  sync   /dev/sda1
   1   00-  removed
# END-CLI

As written before, the MBRs on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb are not identical.
# BEGIN-CLI
deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 8
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 2.1e-05 seconds, 24.4 MB/s
000 044353 150220 000274 175574 003520 017520 137374 076033
020 015677 050006 134527 000745 122363 136713 003676 002261
040 067070 076000 072411 101423 010305 172342 014315 172613
060 143203 044420 014564 026070 173164 132640 132007 001003
100 000377 02 01 00 001000 110372 173220 100302
120 001165 100262 054752 000174 030400 107300 107330 136320
140 02 120373 076100 177474 001164 141210 137122 076577
160 032350 173001 100302 052164 040664 125273 146525 055023
deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 8
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 2.2e-05 seconds, 23.3 MB/s
000 044353 010220 150216 000274 134260 00 154216 140216
020 137373 076000 000277 134406 001000 122363 020752 06
040 137000 003676 002070 005565 143203 100420 177376 072407
060 165763 132026 130002 135401 076000 100262 072212 001003
100 000377 02 01 00 001000 110372 173220 100302
120 001165 100262 054752 000174 030400 107300 107330 136320
140 02 120373 076100 177474 001164 141210 137122 076577
160 032350 173001 100302 052164 040664 125273 146525 055023
# END-CLI


On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 05:21:17PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Alexander Sieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  That is, also after changing sda to sdb in device.map, the
  two MBRs are not identical.
 
  Maybe Goswin, or somebody else who enabled booting from both
  disks with RAID1 and grub, can give the output of
  'dd if=xxx[ab] bs=512 count=1 | od' on their system.
 
 I just dded the mbr from sda to all raid devices making them identical
 the last time I installed.
 
After knowing that both disks are bootable with non identical
MBRs, now it would be interesting to see, whether dd'ing
the MBR of the 1st disk to the other disks also works.
I leave this test for somebody else:-)

For the sake 

Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-20 Thread Alexander Sieck
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 02:07:54AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
  On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 04:29:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
  You have to trick grub-install. Say /boot is on /dev/md0, a raid1 of
  /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1. Then you can put /dev/sda1 into devices.map,
  instal-grub, repeat for sdb1. You might have to change fstab and/or
  mtab as well. Can't remeber if that is truely needed.
  
 ... 
 Then pull a disk (the right one) and see it stop booting. From
 grub-install:
  ...
 Only one of your disks is bootable. By setting up each device in
 device.map in turn you get grub on each of them.
 
 MfG
 Goswin
 

Hello,

Goswin is right. I have installed etch on amd64 and configured
RAID1, LVM and grub in d-i.

# BEGIN-CLI
deb64a:~# df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/md1   1829101189101   1542410  11% /
/dev/md0 60093 19372 37515  35% /boot
...
# END-CLI

After the installation only the MBR on /dev/sda contains meaningful
data, whereas the MBR on /dev/sdb contains mostly zeros.

# BEGIN-CLI
deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 12
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 2.2e-05 seconds, 23.3 MB/s
000 044353 150220 000274 175574 003520 017520 137374 076033
020 015677 050006 134527 000745 122363 136713 003676 002261
040 067070 076000 072411 101423 010305 172342 014315 172613
060 143203 044420 014564 026070 173164 132640 132007 001003
100 000377 02 01 00 001000 100372 100312 051752
120 000174 030400 107300 107330 136320 02 120373 076100
140 177474 001164 141210 137122 076571 032350 173001 100302
160 052164 040664 125273 146525 055023 071122 100511 052773
200 072652 120103 076101 140204 002565 160603 072001 063067
220 046213 137020 076005 042306 000777 105546 042036 143574
240 010004 143400 001104 01 104546 004134 042307 06
260 063160 140061 042211 063004 042211 132014 146502 071023

deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 12
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 2.1e-05 seconds, 24.4 MB/s
000 134372 01 150216 000274 134260 00 154216 140216
020 137373 076000 000277 134406 001000 122363 020752 06
040 137000 003676 002070 005565 143203 100420 177376 072407
060 165763 132026 130002 135401 076000 100262 072212 105401
100 001114 011715 000352 000174 165400 000376 00 00
120 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
140 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
160 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
200 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
220 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
240 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
260 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
# END-CLI

After running 'grub-install' on /dev/sdb, both MBRs, on /dev/sda
and /dev/sdb, contain the right data.

# BEGIN-CLI
deb64a:~# grub-install --root-directory=/boot --no-floppy /dev/sdb
Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
Installation finished. No error reported.
This is the contents of the device map /boot/boot/grub/device.map.
Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.

(hd0)   /dev/sda
(hd1)   /dev/sdb

deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 12
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.000638 seconds, 803 kB/s
000 044353 150220 000274 175574 003520 017520 137374 076033
020 015677 050006 134527 000745 122363 136713 003676 002261
040 067070 076000 072411 101423 010305 172342 014315 172613
060 143203 044420 014564 026070 173164 132640 132007 001003
100 000377 02 01 00 001000 100372 100312 051752
120 000174 030400 107300 107330 136320 02 120373 076100
140 177474 001164 141210 137122 076571 032350 173001 100302
160 052164 040664 125273 146525 055023 071122 100511 052773
200 072652 120103 076101 140204 002565 160603 072001 063067
220 046213 137020 076005 042306 000777 105546 042036 143574
240 010004 143400 001104 01 104546 004134 042307 06
260 063160 140061 042211 063004 042211 132014 146502 071023
deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 12
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.013082 seconds, 39.1 kB/s
000 044353 010220 150216 000274 134260 00 154216 140216
020 137373 076000 000277 134406 001000 122363 020752 06
040 137000 003676 002070 005565 143203 100420 177376 072407
060 165763 132026 130002 135401 076000 100262 072212 001003
100 000201 02 01 00 001000 110372 173220 100302
120 001165 100262 054752 000174 030400 107300 107330 136320
140 02 120373 076100 177474 001164 141210 137122 076577
160 032350 173001 100302 

Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-20 Thread Kilian

Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

Kilian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

[...]

I went ahead and fixed mbr up for amd64. Apart from the obvious
(Build-depends, gcc -m32) I also fixed up some of the more serious
warnings and included running the testsuite as much as possible.
The package compiles but someone has to risk his/her system and
install the mbr now.

Thanks a lot for your work! I'd be willing to do that, unfortunately
it doesn't compile on my box; I get:

Making all in harness
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/mbr-1.1.5.orig/harness'
gcc -DPACKAGE=\mbr\ -DVERSION=\1.1.5\  -I. -I.  -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -g -c bios.c


Did you apply the patch?


Here is what I did:

 $ apt-get source mbr
 $ tar xzvf mbr_1.1.5.orig.tar.gz
 $ cd mbr-1.1.5.orig
 $ zcat ../mbr_1.1.5-2.diff.gz | patch -p1
 $ patch -p1  ../mbr-x86_64.patch   # your patch
 $ ./configure
 $ make

Both patches applied smoothly, no rejects at all.


This should be gcc -m32 there. Without it it will create 64bit code
which won't work.


Hm. Should this flag '-m32' be in your patch? Because I don't find it 
there..



In file included from bios.c:2:
vm86.h:4:22: asm/vm86.h: No such file or directory


sh-3.1# cat /usr/include/asm/vm86.h 
/* All asm/ files are generated and point to the corresponding

 * file in asm-x86_64 or asm-i386.
 */

#ifdef __i386__
# include asm-i386/vm86.h
#else
# error This header is not available for x86_64
#endif


$ cat /usr/include/asm/vm86.h
cat: /usr/include/asm/vm86.h: No such file or directory

sh-3.1# dpkg -S /usr/include/asm/vm86.h 
linux-kernel-headers: /usr/include/asm/vm86.h


$ dpkg -S /usr/include/i386-linux/asm/vm86.h
linux-kernel-headers: /usr/include/i386-linux/asm/vm86.h


And you don't seem to be on sid. I don't have that file either on
sarge so it won't work there.


OK, does that mean that there is no reasonable way I can get mbr on 
sarge to compile?



http://mrvn.homeip.net/mbr/mbr_1.1.5-2.1_amd64.deb


This won't install here:

$ dpkg -i mbr_1.1.5-2.1_amd64.deb
(Reading database ... 18347 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace mbr 1.1.5-2.1 (using mbr_1.1.5-2.1_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement mbr ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mbr:
 mbr depends on libc6-i386 (= 2.3.5-1); however:
  Package libc6-i386 is not installed.
dpkg: error processing mbr (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 mbr


And I can't install libc6-i386 on my system:

Package libc6-i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package libc6-i386 has no installation candidate


I'm really stuck. Apparently lilo would be the best choice because it 
supports md-devices, right? But I can't use lilo because I don't have a 
working install-mbr.


I would give grub a try, but I am not quite sure about the steps 
required for this. First off, the NEWS says that since 0.90 - 
2001-07-11, Linux software RAID support is added (only for RAID-1). 
Well great, I have (or better want) a RAID-1. But everything I read 
about grub and RAID talks of sda/sdb or the like, not of mdX. Does grub 
support it, but not really, or what?


Now, is it sufficient if I run

  grub-install --root-directory=/boot --no-floppy /dev/sda
  grub-install --root-directory=/boot --no-floppy /dev/sdb

? There exists no menu.lst, device.map or whatever on my system yet, do 
I have to manually set them up before running grub-install? If yes, how 
should they look like? I would figure device.map needs to state


  (hd0) /dev/sda
  (hd1) /dev/sdb

But how does menu.lst have to look like?

My fstab for the RAID system will look like this:

 /dev/md0   /boot   xfs defaults0  0
 /dev/md1   noneswapswap
 /dev/md2   /   xfs defaults0  0
 /dev/md3   /home   xfs defaults0  0
 /dev/md4   /varxfs defaults0  0
 /dev/md5   /var/logxfs defaults0  0
 /dev/md6   /var/tmpxfs defaults0  0
 /dev/md7   /tmpxfs defaults0  0
 proc   /proc   proc

Thanks very much for your time, I really appreciate the help I've gotten 
from all you guys so far very much!


-- Kilian


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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Kilian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Kilian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 [...]
 I went ahead and fixed mbr up for amd64. Apart from the obvious
 (Build-depends, gcc -m32) I also fixed up some of the more serious
 warnings and included running the testsuite as much as possible.
 The package compiles but someone has to risk his/her system and
 install the mbr now.
 Thanks a lot for your work! I'd be willing to do that, unfortunately
 it doesn't compile on my box; I get:

 Making all in harness
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/mbr-1.1.5.orig/harness'
 gcc -DPACKAGE=\mbr\ -DVERSION=\1.1.5\  -I. -I.  -Wall
 -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -g -c bios.c
 Did you apply the patch?

 Here is what I did:

   $ apt-get source mbr
   $ tar xzvf mbr_1.1.5.orig.tar.gz
   $ cd mbr-1.1.5.orig
   $ zcat ../mbr_1.1.5-2.diff.gz | patch -p1

'apt-get source mbr' should already run dpkg-source -x on the dsc file
to extract. Why do you have to untar and patch it manualy and why
don't you use 'dpkg-source -x *dsc' for it?

   $ patch -p1  ../mbr-x86_64.patch   # your patch
   $ ./configure
   $ make

 Both patches applied smoothly, no rejects at all.

 This should be gcc -m32 there. Without it it will create 64bit code
 which won't work.

 Hm. Should this flag '-m32' be in your patch? Because I don't find it
 there..

The patch includes this:

| -CC = gcc
| -CFLAGS = -g -Wall
| +KERNEL_ARCH := $(shell uname -m)
| +
| +CC = gcc -m32
| +LD = ld -melf_i386

 In file included from bios.c:2:
 vm86.h:4:22: asm/vm86.h: No such file or directory
 sh-3.1# cat /usr/include/asm/vm86.h /* All asm/ files are generated
 and point to the corresponding
  * file in asm-x86_64 or asm-i386.
  */
 #ifdef __i386__
 # include asm-i386/vm86.h
 #else
 # error This header is not available for x86_64
 #endif

 $ cat /usr/include/asm/vm86.h
 cat: /usr/include/asm/vm86.h: No such file or directory

 sh-3.1# dpkg -S /usr/include/asm/vm86.h linux-kernel-headers:
 /usr/include/asm/vm86.h

 $ dpkg -S /usr/include/i386-linux/asm/vm86.h
 linux-kernel-headers: /usr/include/i386-linux/asm/vm86.h

 And you don't seem to be on sid. I don't have that file either on
 sarge so it won't work there.

 OK, does that mean that there is no reasonable way I can get mbr on
 sarge to compile?

You need the sid linux-kernel-headers and also have to set CC =
gcc-3.4 -m32. The Build-Depends need to change to ia32-libs-dev as
well.

 http://mrvn.homeip.net/mbr/mbr_1.1.5-2.1_amd64.deb

 This won't install here:

 $ dpkg -i mbr_1.1.5-2.1_amd64.deb
 (Reading database ... 18347 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace mbr 1.1.5-2.1 (using mbr_1.1.5-2.1_amd64.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement mbr ...
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mbr:
   mbr depends on libc6-i386 (= 2.3.5-1); however:
Package libc6-i386 is not installed.
 dpkg: error processing mbr (--install):
   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Errors were encountered while processing:
   mbr

In sarge the 32bit libc6 is included in ia32-libs. For testing
purposed you can --force-depends.

 And I can't install libc6-i386 on my system:

 Package libc6-i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
 This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
 is only available from another source
 E: Package libc6-i386 has no installation candidate


 I'm really stuck. Apparently lilo would be the best choice because it
 supports md-devices, right? But I can't use lilo because I don't have
 a working install-mbr.

Lilo only suggests mbr. Why can't you use it to install lilo directly
into the mbr?

 I would give grub a try, but I am not quite sure about the steps
 required for this. First off, the NEWS says that since 0.90 -
 2001-07-11, Linux software RAID support is added (only for
 RAID-1). Well great, I have (or better want) a RAID-1. But everything
 I read about grub and RAID talks of sda/sdb or the like, not of
 mdX. Does grub support it, but not really, or what?

 Now, is it sufficient if I run

grub-install --root-directory=/boot --no-floppy /dev/sda
grub-install --root-directory=/boot --no-floppy /dev/sdb

man grub-install:
   grub-install copies GRUB images into the DIR/boot directory specfied by
   --root-directory, and uses the grub shell to install grub into the boot
   sector.

Your command line would install to /boot/boot/.

grub-install --no-floppy /dev/md0

should be sufficient to boot but not to get failsave booting in case
sda dies. It will only install on the first device mdadm -D lists for
the raid and I assume this is sda.

Running grub-install on the individual disks will also not result in a
bootable sdb disk. As shown below your device.map lists sdb as second
bios disk. But if sda fail sdb becomes the first bios disk and grub
fails to find the second. You have to tell grub that sdb will be the
first disk by putting (hd0) /dev/sdb into 

Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Alexander Sieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 After running 'grub-install' on /dev/sdb, both MBRs, on /dev/sda
 and /dev/sdb, contain the right data.

Some data but the right data? The two MBRs should be identical or not?
Have you tried removing sda and boot or swap sda and sdb around and
boot? (below I see you haven't fully tested that)

 # BEGIN-CLI
 deb64a:~# grub-install --root-directory=/boot --no-floppy /dev/sdb
 Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
 Installation finished. No error reported.
 This is the contents of the device map /boot/boot/grub/device.map.
 Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
 fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.

 (hd0)   /dev/sda
 (hd1)   /dev/sdb


Lets interleave the data for comparision:
 deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 12
 deb64a:~# dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | od -v | head -n 12

 000 044353 150220 000274 175574 003520 017520 137374 076033
 000 044353 010220 150216 000274 134260 00 154216 140216

 020 015677 050006 134527 000745 122363 136713 003676 002261
 020 137373 076000 000277 134406 001000 122363 020752 06

 040 067070 076000 072411 101423 010305 172342 014315 172613
 040 137000 003676 002070 005565 143203 100420 177376 072407

 060 143203 044420 014564 026070 173164 132640 132007 001003
 060 165763 132026 130002 135401 076000 100262 072212 001003

 100 000201 02 01 00 001000 110372 173220 100302
 100 000377 02 01 00 001000 100372 100312 051752

 120 000174 030400 107300 107330 136320 02 120373 076100
 120 001165 100262 054752 000174 030400 107300 107330 136320

 140 02 120373 076100 177474 001164 141210 137122 076577
 140 177474 001164 141210 137122 076571 032350 173001 100302

 160 032350 173001 100302 052164 040664 125273 146525 055023
 160 052164 040664 125273 146525 055023 071122 100511 052773

 200 071122 100511 052773 072652 120103 076101 140204 002565
 200 072652 120103 076101 140204 002565 160603 072001 063067

 220 046213 137020 076005 042306 000777 105546 042036 143574
 220 160603 072001 063067 046213 137020 076005 042306 000777

 240 010004 143400 001104 01 104546 004134 042307 06
 240 105546 042036 143574 010004 143400 001104 01 104546

 260 004134 042307 06 063160 140061 042211 063004 042211
 260 063160 140061 042211 063004 042211 132014 146502 071023
 # END-CLI

 I did not unplug or replugged the HDs, but I changed the
 HD boot order in the BIOS, from IDE-channel2, -channel3 to
 IDE-channel3, -channel2, and can boot in both cases.

Is that the same as removing a disk or does that preserve sda as hd0
and sdb as hd1 and just boot from hd1?

 I think this prooves that grub does not work out of the box
 with RAID1 as many might expect, but that it is quite easy
 to enable booting from both HDs.

It is rudimentary but needs improving imho.

 Even if the MBR is missing on the 2nd drive and the
 1st drive crashes, one can still install the MBR on the
 2nd drive with a rescue CD.

Unfortunately every time you run into such a problem you just can't
seem to find that rescue CD. :(

 Alexander

MfG
Goswin


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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-19 Thread Dmitry I. Kulagin

Hi!
I use ms-sys with -s option just a week ago in simular situation.
As far as I know, you can't indicate grub to load from /dev/md0, only 
lilo can do this.
And there is no need to recompile the kernel, the debian distributed 
kernel with the yaird as

initrd creator can load the system in your situation.



Thanks a lot for your reply!

I'm using lilo as bootloader, but as grub is way more modern, I might 
just switch to grub.


The thing is, the machine I'm working on is remote and I have no 
console access, so everything is a bit tricky. It's already running, 
has two identical SATA disks, the second one (sdb) is not used. What I 
want to do is create a RAID 1 array with only sdb (but with the 
possibility to add sda later). Then I boot from this new RAID array, 
repartition sda and add it to the RAID array. I've gotten so far as 
setting up the RAID array, chrooting into it and bootstrap a Debian 
system on it, compile an new kernel, but when it comes to set up 
bootloaders, the howto I'm using http://juerd.nl/site.plp/debianraid 
tells me to run:


 $ lilo
 $ install-mbr /dev/sda
 $ install-mbr /dev/sdb

Do you think I could accomplish the same result by only using grub?

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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Dmitry I. Kulagin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi!
 I use ms-sys with -s option just a week ago in simular situation.
 As far as I know, you can't indicate grub to load from /dev/md0, only
 lilo can do this.
 And there is no need to recompile the kernel, the debian distributed
 kernel with the yaird as
 initrd creator can load the system in your situation.

You have to trick grub-install. Say /boot is on /dev/md0, a raid1 of
/dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1. Then you can put /dev/sda1 into devices.map,
instal-grub, repeat for sdb1. You might have to change fstab and/or
mtab as well. Can't remeber if that is truely needed.

But grub-install also has some special code for raids. Why it doesn't
work or isn't good enough should be someones TODO. Maybe we could make
that a NM job :)

MfG
Goswin


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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-19 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 08:02:11AM -0400, Scott Reese wrote:

 You don't say what boot loader you're using, but if you are using grub,
 you can simply install the MBR to the second disk using the grub terminal.

I needed install-mbr when I wanted to kill grub in favor of lilo a few
weeks ago. The solution was to boot from a 32-bit Knoppix CD and run
install-mbr from there.

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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-19 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 04:29:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

 You have to trick grub-install. Say /boot is on /dev/md0, a raid1 of
 /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1. Then you can put /dev/sda1 into devices.map,
 instal-grub, repeat for sdb1. You might have to change fstab and/or
 mtab as well. Can't remeber if that is truely needed.

... and that's why I do not use grub whith software raid. It is much
more awkward to set up than lilo, there is no documentation, and it is
less reliable. Lilo at least displays some letters when something goes
wrong so you know what did you do wrong; grub just hangs without any
messages at all.

If you want fancy boot, go with grub. If you want reliable boot from an
md device, go with lilo.

Gabor

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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-19 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 07:05:56PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

 I went ahead and fixed mbr up for amd64. Apart from the obvious
 (Build-depends, gcc -m32) I also fixed up some of the more serious
 warnings and included running the testsuite as much as possible.
 
 The package compiles but someone has to risk his/her system and
 install the mbr now.

Heh, I downloaded the mbr source yesterday and hoped to be able to do
the same this weekend, but it seems I'm already late :-)

Gabor

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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 04:29:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

 You have to trick grub-install. Say /boot is on /dev/md0, a raid1 of
 /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1. Then you can put /dev/sda1 into devices.map,
 instal-grub, repeat for sdb1. You might have to change fstab and/or
 mtab as well. Can't remeber if that is truely needed.

 ... and that's why I do not use grub whith software raid. It is much
 more awkward to set up than lilo, there is no documentation, and it is
 less reliable. Lilo at least displays some letters when something goes
 wrong so you know what did you do wrong; grub just hangs without any
 messages at all.

 If you want fancy boot, go with grub. If you want reliable boot from an
 md device, go with lilo.

 Gabor

Lilo can't boot because of bios checksum errors. Ever since then I use
grub.

I think I will look into grub stage0 code and grub-install concerning
raid support this weekend. It really can't be that hard to patch in
better support for it.

MfG
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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-19 Thread Kilian

Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

tag 330190 + patch
thanks

Kilian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Dear All,

I'm trying to set up a software RAID 1 (two disks) with Debian on a
system with an AMD x86_64 Athlon processor. To install the MBR on both
discs, I need install-mbr (http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/mbr)
if I'm correct, but this package does not exist in the amd64 port... I
then tried to compile it myself, which fails, obviously, because the
package has not been ported to x86_64 yet as it seems (and I lack the
knowledge to do so...).

I'm a bit stuck now.. what other tools can I use?

Thanks for any hint!

Greetz,
Kilian


I went ahead and fixed mbr up for amd64. Apart from the obvious
(Build-depends, gcc -m32) I also fixed up some of the more serious
warnings and included running the testsuite as much as possible.

The package compiles but someone has to risk his/her system and
install the mbr now.


Thanks a lot for your work! I'd be willing to do that, unfortunately it 
doesn't compile on my box; I get:


Making all in harness
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/mbr-1.1.5.orig/harness'
gcc -DPACKAGE=\mbr\ -DVERSION=\1.1.5\  -I. -I.  -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -g -c bios.c

In file included from bios.c:2:
vm86.h:4:22: asm/vm86.h: No such file or directory
bios.c: In function `handle_int_10':
bios.c:73: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
[...]
bios.c: In function `handle_int_e4':
bios.c:243: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
bios.c:243: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
make[1]: *** [bios.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/mbr-1.1.5.orig/harness'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Obviously, asm/vm86.h is not found; I located this file in 
/usr/include/i386-linux/asm, tried to be ugly and changed the include 
statement in bios.c to the full path of vm86.h, but then I get:


Making all in harness
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/mbr-1.1.5.orig/harness'
gcc -DPACKAGE=\mbr\ -DVERSION=\1.1.5\  -I. -I.  -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -g -c bios.c

bios.c: In function `handle_int_13':
bios.c:103: error: `CF' undeclared (first use in this function)
bios.c:103: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
bios.c:103: error: for each function it appears in.)
bios.c: In function `handle_int_16':
bios.c:214: error: `ZF' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[1]: *** [bios.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/mbr-1.1.5.orig/harness'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

I'm really sorry but my knowledge does not go that far as making a smart 
interpretation of the above... can you help?


Linux 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8, x86_64, Debian Sarge, gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 
1:3.3.5-13)


Thanks a lot!

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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-19 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 04:29:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 You have to trick grub-install. Say /boot is on /dev/md0, a raid1 of
 /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1. Then you can put /dev/sda1 into devices.map,
 instal-grub, repeat for sdb1. You might have to change fstab and/or
 mtab as well. Can't remeber if that is truely needed.
 
 But grub-install also has some special code for raids. Why it doesn't
 work or isn't good enough should be someones TODO. Maybe we could make
 that a NM job :)

grub-install works fine here with /boot on a raid1.  It has ever since
sarge was released (raid1 support was added sometime in early 2005 it
seems).  No tricks required.

Len Sorensen


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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Kilian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 tag 330190 + patch
 thanks
 Kilian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Dear All,

 I'm trying to set up a software RAID 1 (two disks) with Debian on a
 system with an AMD x86_64 Athlon processor. To install the MBR on both
 discs, I need install-mbr (http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/mbr)
 if I'm correct, but this package does not exist in the amd64 port... I
 then tried to compile it myself, which fails, obviously, because the
 package has not been ported to x86_64 yet as it seems (and I lack the
 knowledge to do so...).

 I'm a bit stuck now.. what other tools can I use?

 Thanks for any hint!

 Greetz,
 Kilian
 I went ahead and fixed mbr up for amd64. Apart from the obvious
 (Build-depends, gcc -m32) I also fixed up some of the more serious
 warnings and included running the testsuite as much as possible.
 The package compiles but someone has to risk his/her system and
 install the mbr now.

 Thanks a lot for your work! I'd be willing to do that, unfortunately
 it doesn't compile on my box; I get:

 Making all in harness
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/mbr-1.1.5.orig/harness'
 gcc -DPACKAGE=\mbr\ -DVERSION=\1.1.5\  -I. -I.  -Wall
 -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -g -c bios.c

Did you apply the patch?

This should be gcc -m32 there. Without it it will create 64bit code
which won't work.

 In file included from bios.c:2:
 vm86.h:4:22: asm/vm86.h: No such file or directory

sh-3.1# cat /usr/include/asm/vm86.h 
/* All asm/ files are generated and point to the corresponding
 * file in asm-x86_64 or asm-i386.
 */

#ifdef __i386__
# include asm-i386/vm86.h
#else
# error This header is not available for x86_64
#endif

sh-3.1# dpkg -S /usr/include/asm/vm86.h 
linux-kernel-headers: /usr/include/asm/vm86.h

And you don't seem to be on sid. I don't have that file either on
sarge so it won't work there.

http://mrvn.homeip.net/mbr/mbr_1.1.5-2.1_amd64.deb

MfG
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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:

 On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 04:29:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 You have to trick grub-install. Say /boot is on /dev/md0, a raid1 of
 /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1. Then you can put /dev/sda1 into devices.map,
 instal-grub, repeat for sdb1. You might have to change fstab and/or
 mtab as well. Can't remeber if that is truely needed.
 
 But grub-install also has some special code for raids. Why it doesn't
 work or isn't good enough should be someones TODO. Maybe we could make
 that a NM job :)

 grub-install works fine here with /boot on a raid1.  It has ever since
 sarge was released (raid1 support was added sometime in early 2005 it
 seems).  No tricks required.

 Len Sorensen

Then pull a disk (the right one) and see it stop booting. From
grub-install:

# Usage: getraid_mdadm mddevice
# Routine to find a physical device from an md device
# If found, the first grub BIOS device (from device.map) is returned 
# If no BIOS drives match the RAID devices, the first device returned
# from mdadm -D is returned

Only one of your disks is bootable. By setting up each device in
device.map in turn you get grub on each of them.

MfG
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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-18 Thread Scott Reese
Kilian wrote:
 Dear All,
 
 I'm trying to set up a software RAID 1 (two disks) with Debian on a
 system with an AMD x86_64 Athlon processor. To install the MBR on both
 discs, I need install-mbr (http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/mbr)
 if I'm correct, but this package does not exist in the amd64 port... I
 then tried to compile it myself, which fails, obviously, because the
 package has not been ported to x86_64 yet as it seems (and I lack the
 knowledge to do so...).
 
 I'm a bit stuck now.. what other tools can I use?
 

You don't say what boot loader you're using, but if you are using grub,
you can simply install the MBR to the second disk using the grub terminal.

Run grub, then from the grub prompt (and assuming your boot partition is
the first partition on the disk):

MBR on the first disk:

grub root (hd0,0)
grub setup (hd0)

MBR on the second disk:

grub root (hd1,0)
grub setup (hd1)

And then you're done:

grub quit

Grub supports tab completion, so if you put in

grub root (hd

and hit the tab key, it will show the valid drive numbers.  It will do
the same for the partitions if you hit tab after:

grub root (hd1,

to help you pick the correct partition.  Remember, all numbers are
zero-origin, so if the parition holding /boot is /dev/sda1, its
partition number will be 0 in grub.

And, as always, a bootable grub disk as a safety measure is highly
recommended.

-Scott


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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-18 Thread Kilian

Scott Reese wrote:

Kilian wrote:

Dear All,

I'm trying to set up a software RAID 1 (two disks) with Debian on a
system with an AMD x86_64 Athlon processor. To install the MBR on both
discs, I need install-mbr (http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/mbr)
if I'm correct, but this package does not exist in the amd64 port... I
then tried to compile it myself, which fails, obviously, because the
package has not been ported to x86_64 yet as it seems (and I lack the
knowledge to do so...).

I'm a bit stuck now.. what other tools can I use?



You don't say what boot loader you're using, but if you are using grub,
you can simply install the MBR to the second disk using the grub terminal.


Thanks a lot for your reply!

I'm using lilo as bootloader, but as grub is way more modern, I might 
just switch to grub.


The thing is, the machine I'm working on is remote and I have no console 
access, so everything is a bit tricky. It's already running, has two 
identical SATA disks, the second one (sdb) is not used. What I want to 
do is create a RAID 1 array with only sdb (but with the possibility to 
add sda later). Then I boot from this new RAID array, repartition sda 
and add it to the RAID array. I've gotten so far as setting up the RAID 
array, chrooting into it and bootstrap a Debian system on it, compile an 
new kernel, but when it comes to set up bootloaders, the howto I'm using 
http://juerd.nl/site.plp/debianraid tells me to run:


 $ lilo
 $ install-mbr /dev/sda
 $ install-mbr /dev/sdb

Do you think I could accomplish the same result by only using grub?

-- Kilian


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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-18 Thread Adam Stiles
On Thursday 18 May 2006 08:41, Kilian wrote:
 Dear All,

 I'm trying to set up a software RAID 1 (two disks) with Debian on a
 system with an AMD x86_64 Athlon processor. To install the MBR on both
 discs, I need install-mbr (http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/mbr)
 if I'm correct, but this package does not exist in the amd64 port... I
 then tried to compile it myself, which fails, obviously, because the
 package has not been ported to x86_64 yet as it seems (and I lack the
 knowledge to do so...).

 I'm a bit stuck now.. what other tools can I use?

 Thanks for any hint!

 Greetz,
 Kilian

Just install an MBR on one disk, and then use dd to copy it.  A master boot 
record is always 512 bytes long.  Assuming you are using SATA disks and the 
MBR was installed on the first, the command would be

# dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1

To test it, shut down cleanly {so the RAID integrity is maintained}, and 
physically swap the drives.

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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 09:41:27AM +0200, Kilian wrote:
 I'm trying to set up a software RAID 1 (two disks) with Debian on a 
 system with an AMD x86_64 Athlon processor. To install the MBR on both 
 discs, I need install-mbr (http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/mbr) 
 if I'm correct, but this package does not exist in the amd64 port... I 
 then tried to compile it myself, which fails, obviously, because the 
 package has not been ported to x86_64 yet as it seems (and I lack the 
 knowledge to do so...).
 
 I'm a bit stuck now.. what other tools can I use?
 
 Thanks for any hint!

I use grub-install /dev/sda and grub-install /dev/sdb.  I see no reason
for the mbr package on my systems.

Len Sorensen


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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 02:18:14PM +0200, Kilian wrote:
 I'm using lilo as bootloader, but as grub is way more modern, I might 
 just switch to grub.
 
 The thing is, the machine I'm working on is remote and I have no console 
 access, so everything is a bit tricky. It's already running, has two 
 identical SATA disks, the second one (sdb) is not used. What I want to 
 do is create a RAID 1 array with only sdb (but with the possibility to 
 add sda later). Then I boot from this new RAID array, repartition sda 
 and add it to the RAID array. I've gotten so far as setting up the RAID 
 array, chrooting into it and bootstrap a Debian system on it, compile an 
 new kernel, but when it comes to set up bootloaders, the howto I'm using 
 http://juerd.nl/site.plp/debianraid tells me to run:
 
  $ lilo
  $ install-mbr /dev/sda
  $ install-mbr /dev/sdb
 
 Do you think I could accomplish the same result by only using grub?

Unless you also have windows on the system, there is no reason to not
put the boot loader in the MBR directly rather than on to one of the
partitions.  Both lilo and grub can install directly to the MBR and work
from there without the install-mbr at all.

Len Sorensen


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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-18 Thread Scott Reese
Kilian wrote:

 Thanks a lot for your reply!
 
 I'm using lilo as bootloader, but as grub is way more modern, I might
 just switch to grub.
 
 The thing is, the machine I'm working on is remote and I have no console
 access, so everything is a bit tricky. It's already running, has two
 identical SATA disks, the second one (sdb) is not used. What I want to
 do is create a RAID 1 array with only sdb (but with the possibility to
 add sda later). Then I boot from this new RAID array, repartition sda
 and add it to the RAID array. I've gotten so far as setting up the RAID
 array, chrooting into it and bootstrap a Debian system on it, compile an
 new kernel, but when it comes to set up bootloaders, the howto I'm using
 http://juerd.nl/site.plp/debianraid tells me to run:
 
  $ lilo
  $ install-mbr /dev/sda
  $ install-mbr /dev/sdb
 
 Do you think I could accomplish the same result by only using grub?
 
 -- Kilian
 
 

Without console access to the machine, lilo or grub is going to be
something of a moot point because you are going to have to get the
configuration correct the first time or you are completely out of luck.
 The nice thing about grub is that it has a console at boot where you
can modify the booting kernel and the parameters, which is nice if you
got you /boot/grub/menu.lst wrong in some way.  But without a console,
you only get what's in your menu.lst - so if that's wrong it won't boot.

What you're saying sounds do-able, but you'll have to get everything
completely right the first time.  You're assuming that your chrooted
build on /dev/sdb will boot.  In the situation you're talking about, you
don't really need an MBR on /dev/sdb.  The only reason you would need an
MBR on /dev/sdb would be if /dev/sda had a failure.  For what you are
describing, you need a properly set up MBR on /dev/sda which defaults to
booting your root partition on /dev/sdb?.

On a side note, if this is an important machine to you, you might to
check out some sort of lights-out remote access which would get you
remote access to the machine's console.  It's a real life-saver when you
can't get to the machine easily.

Good luck.

-Scott


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Re: install-mbr on amd64?

2006-05-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
tag 330190 + patch
thanks

Kilian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Dear All,

 I'm trying to set up a software RAID 1 (two disks) with Debian on a
 system with an AMD x86_64 Athlon processor. To install the MBR on both
 discs, I need install-mbr (http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/mbr)
 if I'm correct, but this package does not exist in the amd64 port... I
 then tried to compile it myself, which fails, obviously, because the
 package has not been ported to x86_64 yet as it seems (and I lack the
 knowledge to do so...).

 I'm a bit stuck now.. what other tools can I use?

 Thanks for any hint!

 Greetz,
 Kilian

I went ahead and fixed mbr up for amd64. Apart from the obvious
(Build-depends, gcc -m32) I also fixed up some of the more serious
warnings and included running the testsuite as much as possible.

The package compiles but someone has to risk his/her system and
install the mbr now.

MfG
Goswin

PS: Dear maintainer, consider this a notification of intent to NMU
your package.

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diff -u mbr-1.1.5/debian/control mbr-1.1.5/debian/control
--- mbr-1.1.5/debian/control
+++ mbr-1.1.5/debian/control
@@ -3,10 +3,10 @@
 Priority: optional
 Maintainer: Santiago Garcia Mantinan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Standards-Version: 3.6.1
-Build-Depends: bin86
+Build-Depends: bin86, libc6-dev-i386 [amd64], ia32-libs [amd64]
 
 Package: mbr
-Architecture: i386
+Architecture: i386 amd64
 Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}
 Description: Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.
  This is used in booting Linux from the hard disk.
diff -u mbr-1.1.5/debian/changelog mbr-1.1.5/debian/changelog
--- mbr-1.1.5/debian/changelog
+++ mbr-1.1.5/debian/changelog
@@ -1,3 +1,24 @@
+mbr (1.1.5-2.1) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * NMU: Port to amd64 (closes: #330190)
++ debian/rules: set CC and LD
++ debian/rules: add -W to CFLAGS for proper warnings
++ debian/control: Build-Depend on libc6-dev-i386 [amd64] and
+  (temporary) on ia32-libs [amd64] for dpkg-shlibdeps to work
+  * Fix potentialy harmfull warnings
++ harness/args.c:57: warning: suggest parentheses around arithmetic in 
operand of ^
++ harness/output.c:22: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned
++ harness/process.c:25: warning: implicit declaration of function 'exit'
++ install-mbr.c:617: warning: return type defaults to 'int'
++ install-mbr.c:702: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned
++ install-mbr.c:1357: warning: format '%d' expects type 'int', but 
argument 4 has type 'char *'
+  * Enable testsuite partialy
++ remove tests for non existing old mbrs
++ conditionaly remove runtime test that fail on amd64
+  * Fix typo in manpage found by  A Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Closes: #311235)
+   
+ -- Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thu, 18 May 2006 18:43:42 +
+
 mbr (1.1.5-2) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * The we are no longer required for anything release.
diff -u mbr-1.1.5/debian/rules mbr-1.1.5/debian/rules
--- mbr-1.1.5/debian/rules
+++ mbr-1.1.5/debian/rules
@@ -3,8 +3,12 @@
 package = mbr
 docdir = debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/$(package)
 
-CC = gcc
-CFLAGS = -g -Wall
+KERNEL_ARCH := $(shell uname -m)
+
+CC = gcc -m32
+LD = ld -melf_i386
+
+CFLAGS = -g -Wall -W
 INSTALL_PROGRAM = install
 
 ifeq (,$(findstring noopt,$(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS)))
@@ -17,7 +21,13 @@
 build:
$(checkdir)
./configure --prefix=/
-   $(MAKE) CC=$(CC) CFLAGS=$(CFLAGS)
+   $(MAKE) CC=$(CC) LD=$(LD) CFLAGS=$(CFLAGS)
+ifneq (,$(findstring x86_64,$(KERNEL_ARCH)))
+   # Limit the tests on x86_64 kernels
+   $(MAKE) TESTS=tests/inst-1 tests/inst-3 tests/inst-4 tests/inst-6 
tests/inst-7 tests/inst-8 check-TESTS
+else
+   $(MAKE) check-TESTS
+endif
touch build
 
 clean:
only in patch2:
unchanged:
--- mbr-1.1.5.orig/Makefile.in
+++ mbr-1.1.5/Makefile.in
@@ -71,7 +71,7 @@
 
 man_MANS = install-mbr.8
 
-TESTS = tests/version tests/inst-1 tests/inst-2 tests/inst-3 tests/inst-4 
tests/inst-5 tests/inst-6 tests/inst-7 tests/inst-8 tests/mbr-1 tests/mbr-2 
tests/mbr-3 tests/mbr-4 tests/mbr-5 tests/mbr-6
+TESTS = tests/inst-1 tests/inst-3 tests/inst-4 tests/inst-6 tests/inst-7 
tests/inst-8 tests/mbr-1 tests/mbr-2 tests/mbr-3 tests/mbr-4 
tests/mbr-5 tests/mbr-6
 
 TESTS_ENVIRONMENT = sh ${srcdir}/wraptest
 
@@ -478,13 +478,7 @@
 
 check-TESTS: \
   table.b \
-  mbr.b \
-  mbr-1.1.3.b \
-  mbr-1.1.2.b \
-  mbr-1.1.1.b \
-  mbr-1.1.0.b \
-  mbr-1.0.1.b \
-  mbr-1.0.0.b
+  mbr.b
 
 .PRECIOUS: mbr.b
 
only in patch2:
unchanged:
--- mbr-1.1.5.orig/Makefile.am
+++ mbr-1.1.5/Makefile.am
@@ -7,21 +7,15 @@
 
 man_MANS = install-mbr.8
 
-TESTS = tests/version tests/inst-1 tests/inst-2 tests/inst-3 \
-tests/inst-4 tests/inst-5 tests/inst-6 tests/inst-7 tests/inst-8 \
+TESTS = tests/inst-1 tests/inst-3 \
+tests/inst-4 tests/inst-6 tests/inst-7 tests/inst-8 \
 tests/mbr-1 tests/mbr-2 tests/mbr-3 tests/mbr-4 \