Re: unrar

2006-07-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Michael Langley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Just google for unrarsrc-3.5.4.tar.gz and build your own 64bit unrar bin.

 unrar: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 
 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped

 On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:59:02 +0200 (CEST)
 Marko Gabud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have notticed that there is no unrar package in official repositories 
 for amd64. Is there any unofficial repository or is there a way to install 
 official packet for i386?
 
 Marko

Better get the official rar binary. All the free stuff has too limited
support.

You can just get the source from non-free and copy the rar.exe to
/usr/local/bin. You will need to install libc6-i386 (ia32-libs on
sarge) for the depends but then it works.

MfG
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Re: unrar

2006-07-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 08:51:22AM -0500, Gnu-Raiz wrote:
 Deja View Am I reading the right list, for a moment I thought I was 
 on Debian User! Anyway a serval months ago Debian User had a very 
 very very long thread about *rar, and various other programs that 
 some users use. So if you really want to get into the nuts and 
 bolts, I would suggest you read up on it.
 
 http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_frm/thread/51cc1cc1c251a2e3?q=rar+%2B+debian+%2B+compressionhl=en;
 
 Since storage is really a non issue with big harddrives, and large 
 flash drives over 1 gb, I think that compression rates are really a 
 non issue. I do think it comes down to the ideological differences 
 of using a program. Unless of course your talking about the 
 proprogation of Usenet post, Which is kind of ironic since most 
 people on this list would consider that as going against the etho's 
 of this list.

Well people do seem to like bzip2 for making kernel downloads take less
time, although debian packages of course seem to use gzip compression
internally.  Changing tha package format would be a major hassle of
course.

I think with tar as the standard way to store files in a collection on
unix, with a seperate compression appluied, things like zip, 7zip, rar,
arj, etc, just aren't as interesting or necesary to *nix users.

Len Sorensen


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Re: unrar

2006-07-10 Thread Gnu-Raiz
On Monday 10 July 2006 08:25, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 08:51:22AM -0500, Gnu-Raiz wrote:
  Deja View Am I reading the right list, for a moment I thought I
  was on Debian User! Anyway a serval months ago Debian User had
  a very very very long thread about *rar, and various other
  programs that some users use. So if you really want to get into
  the nuts and bolts, I would suggest you read up on it.
 
  http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_frm/thr
 ead/51cc1cc1c251a2e3?q=rar+%2B+debian+%2B+compressionhl=en
 
  Since storage is really a non issue with big harddrives, and
  large flash drives over 1 gb, I think that compression rates
  are really a non issue. I do think it comes down to the
  ideological differences of using a program. Unless of course
  your talking about the proprogation of Usenet post, Which is
  kind of ironic since most people on this list would consider
  that as going against the etho's of this list.

 Well people do seem to like bzip2 for making kernel downloads
 take less time, although debian packages of course seem to use
 gzip compression internally.  Changing tha package format would
 be a major hassle of course.

 I think with tar as the standard way to store files in a
 collection on unix, with a seperate compression appluied, things
 like zip, 7zip, rar, arj, etc, just aren't as interesting or
 necesary to *nix users.

 Len Sorensen

I agree if your use to *nix then tar and company is the best method. 
As regarding compression I was mostly refering to breaking the 
image, or exe, or whatever into equal parts. 

that is probably one reason the alt.binaries newsgroups like it so 
much, and the fact that it's established. So if you break an image 
into equal lengths, and post them in say 10-15 MB sizes, the 
compression method really doesn't matter. You just add a few more 
equal sized chunks.

Now I agree if you want to host files then compression makes all the 
difference, especially if your on a limited budget. The sad truth 
is if for some unknown reason you decided to upload to one of the 
various alt.binaries newsgroups and you use tar, or company then 
most people would be lost as to what format that is.  But rar does 
come in handy if you missed a favorite episode or TV program, or 
just want some HD loving content.  Of course that all depends on 
what country you live in, right now ABC is trying to stop fast 
forwarding commercials.  If you follow the MPAA they want it 
illegal to rip content to your harddrive, even if its for personal 
use.

I try to keep it simple, I don't send linux iso's in tar format to 
my dvd buddies, and I don't send tv programs in rar format to my 
open source buddies. 

Then again I can understand the computer scientist point of view, 
getting all excited about better compression, and makeing things 
more efficient. 


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Re: unrar

2006-07-08 Thread Gnu-Raiz
On Friday 07 July 2006 17:43, Jo Shields wrote:
 Lennart Sorensen wrote:
  On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:45:58PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez 
wrote:
  Same here.  However, not everyone thinks the same way.
 
  Yeah I know.  Microsoft Office users for example. :)
 
  tar I understand (although there are a lot of different
  implementations of it too).  Zip works too for some things.
 
  I think rar v3 is almost exclusively used by software pirates
  to get the most compression for the files they are
  distributing.  Maybe I am just too synical. :)
 
  Len Sorensen

 You are.

 RAR v3 is used because pirates are creatures of habit, and it
 always *used* to be best, and easy to use with pirated WinRAR.
 7zip gives better compression for those who are doing more than
 following tradition

Deja View Am I reading the right list, for a moment I thought I was 
on Debian User! Anyway a serval months ago Debian User had a very 
very very long thread about *rar, and various other programs that 
some users use. So if you really want to get into the nuts and 
bolts, I would suggest you read up on it.

http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_frm/thread/51cc1cc1c251a2e3?q=rar+%2B+debian+%2B+compressionhl=en;

Since storage is really a non issue with big harddrives, and large 
flash drives over 1 gb, I think that compression rates are really a 
non issue. I do think it comes down to the ideological differences 
of using a program. Unless of course your talking about the 
proprogation of Usenet post, Which is kind of ironic since most 
people on this list would consider that as going against the etho's 
of this list.

Gnu_Raiz

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Re: unrar

2006-07-07 Thread A J Stiles
On Friday 07 July 2006 11:59, Marko Gabud wrote:
 Hello,

 I have notticed that there is no unrar package in official repositories
 for amd64. Is there any unofficial repository or is there a way to install
 official packet for i386?

Try unrar-free or p7zip instead.  Both are Free Software alternatives to the 
obnoxious licencing terms of unrar.

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Re: unrar

2006-07-07 Thread Matteo Vescovi
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On 07/07/2006 12:59 PM, Marko Gabud wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have notticed that there is no unrar package in official repositories
 for amd64. Is there any unofficial repository or is there a way to
 install official packet for i386?
 
 Marko

There is unrar-free (in sid, at least).
Otherwise, you should use the unrar from i386 in a ia32 chroot.
Hope this helps.

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Re: unrar

2006-07-07 Thread Michael Langley
Just google for unrarsrc-3.5.4.tar.gz and build your own 64bit unrar bin.

unrar: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 
2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:59:02 +0200 (CEST)
Marko Gabud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have notticed that there is no unrar package in official repositories 
 for amd64. Is there any unofficial repository or is there a way to install 
 official packet for i386?
 
 Marko
 
 
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Re: unrar

2006-07-07 Thread Michael Langley
There is actually newer source available.

http://files.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.6.6.tar.gz

I guess I should upgrade.

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 08:59:47 -0500
Michael Langley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just google for unrarsrc-3.5.4.tar.gz and build your own 64bit unrar bin.
 
 unrar: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 
 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped
 
 On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:59:02 +0200 (CEST)
 Marko Gabud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  I have notticed that there is no unrar package in official repositories 
  for amd64. Is there any unofficial repository or is there a way to install 
  official packet for i386?
  
  Marko
  
  
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Re: unrar

2006-07-07 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
A J Stiles wrote:
 On Friday 07 July 2006 11:59, Marko Gabud wrote:
 
Hello,

I have notticed that there is no unrar package in official repositories
for amd64. Is there any unofficial repository or is there a way to install
official packet for i386?
 
 
 Try unrar-free or p7zip instead.  Both are Free Software alternatives to the 
 obnoxious licencing terms of unrar.
 

Yes, and neither works particularly well, if at all, with archives that
use the latest version of the rar format.

-Roberto

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Re: unrar

2006-07-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:22:52PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 Yes, and neither works particularly well, if at all, with archives that
 use the latest version of the rar format.

Well I won't use rar for my own data.  I like my data in documented
formats.

Len Sorensen


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Re: unrar

2006-07-07 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:22:52PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 
Yes, and neither works particularly well, if at all, with archives that
use the latest version of the rar format.
 
 
 Well I won't use rar for my own data.  I like my data in documented
 formats.
 

Same here.  However, not everyone thinks the same way.

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Re: unrar

2006-07-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:45:58PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 Same here.  However, not everyone thinks the same way.

Yeah I know.  Microsoft Office users for example. :)

tar I understand (although there are a lot of different implementations
of it too).  Zip works too for some things.

I think rar v3 is almost exclusively used by software pirates to get the
most compression for the files they are distributing.  Maybe I am just
too synical. :)

Len Sorensen


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Re: unrar

2006-07-07 Thread Jo Shields

Lennart Sorensen wrote:

On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:45:58PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
  

Same here.  However, not everyone thinks the same way.



Yeah I know.  Microsoft Office users for example. :)

tar I understand (although there are a lot of different implementations
of it too).  Zip works too for some things.

I think rar v3 is almost exclusively used by software pirates to get the
most compression for the files they are distributing.  Maybe I am just
too synical. :)

Len Sorensen


You are.

RAR v3 is used because pirates are creatures of habit, and it always 
*used* to be best, and easy to use with pirated WinRAR. 7zip gives 
better compression for those who are doing more than following tradition



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Re: unrar amd64?

2005-09-23 Thread valentina messeri
Scrive antongiulio05 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,
 
 I must unpack a rar-archive, and on repositories I have found unrar-free and
 unrar-nonfree. I have installed unrar-free but it doesn't work (returns
 extraction failed), and so I have installed unrar-nonfree, but apt returns
 marillat repositories not working. Is there an alternative repository for
 unrar-nonfree?

yoy can use marillat sources(which are working)

 apt-get source --compile unrar-nonfree

will give you packet you need

 
 Thanks,
 Giulio
 
 
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Re: unrar amd64?

2005-09-23 Thread antongiulio05
  I must unpack a rar-archive, and on repositories I have found unrar-free and
  unrar-nonfree. I have installed unrar-free but it doesn't work (returns
  extraction failed), and so I have installed unrar-nonfree, but apt returns
  marillat repositories not working. Is there an alternative repository for
  unrar-nonfree?
 
 yoy can use marillat sources(which are working)
 
  apt-get source --compile unrar-nonfree
 
 will give you packet you need

Nice, thanks, it works great!

Giulio


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Re: unrar amd64?

2005-09-23 Thread Philippe
Le vendredi 23 septembre 2005 à 13:35 +0200, antongiulio05 a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 I must unpack a rar-archive, and on repositories I have found
  unrar-free and unrar-nonfree. I have installed unrar-free but it
  doesn't work (returns extraction failed), and so I have installed
  unrar-nonfree, but apt returns marillat repositories not working. Is
  there an alternative repository for unrar-nonfree?
 

the repositories has changed
check http://debian.video.free.fr

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Re: unrar amd64?

2005-09-23 Thread antongiulio05
 the repositories has changed
 check http://debian.video.free.fr

Hi Philippe,

thanks for info.
I have added to my source.list:

deb http://spello.sscnet.ucla.edu/marillat/ sid main

could be it considered substitute for marillat or is it temporary?

Giulio


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Re: unrar for x86_64?

2005-07-19 Thread jurriaan
From: mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 11:53:31AM -0700
 On 7/19/05, jurriaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does anybody know how to get an unrar for x86_64? The internet seems to
  provide plenty of rpms, yet there's no .deb? Why?
  
 apt-get install unrar-free
 
When will I learn to type apt-cache search unrar before I open my mouth?

Thanks,
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Re: unrar for x86_64?

2005-07-19 Thread Alan Ianson
On Tue July 19 2005 11:51 am, jurriaan wrote:
 Does anybody know how to get an unrar for x86_64? The internet seems to
 provide plenty of rpms, yet there's no .deb? Why?

I scooped a x86_64 .rpm from rpmfind.net and used alien to convert it to a 
deb. Works fine here.


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Re: unrar for x86_64?

2005-07-19 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

unrar-nonfree is not distributable on the unofficial amd64 archive for
licensing reasons. 

But you can add 

deb-src http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian sarge non-free

to your sources-list, apt-get source unrar-nonfree and build it
yourself. 


On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 08:51:25PM +0200, jurriaan wrote:
 Does anybody know how to get an unrar for x86_64? The internet seems to
 provide plenty of rpms, yet there's no .deb? Why?

Best regards
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Re: unrar for x86_64?

2005-07-19 Thread David Mohr
Actually,
as usual, once I had hit send, I remembered: It's right on the rar
page, just hidden under extras: http://www.rarlabs.com/rar_add.htm
I think it's a static binary, compiled for 64bit.

~David

On 7/19/05, David Mohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found a binary after plenty of searching that works well, but I was
 also unable to find a .deb and unfortunately I didn't save a bookmark.
 If you're interested, I could send you the binary though.
 
 ~David
 
 On 7/19/05, jurriaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  Does anybody know how to get an unrar for x86_64? The internet seems to
  provide plenty of rpms, yet there's no .deb? Why?
 
  Thanks,
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Re: unrar for x86_64?

2005-07-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
jurriaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anybody know how to get an unrar for x86_64? The internet seems to
 provide plenty of rpms, yet there's no .deb? Why?

 Thanks,
 Jurriaan

You can use the 32bit i386 rar package with ia32-libs or the upstream
linux tar.gz.

MfG
Goswin


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