Re: updated howto

2006-09-12 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi Roberto:
Thanks a lot, I was just re-installing amd64 etch raid1, having changed disks 
(better quality, smaller size, different partition scheme, little to add to 
the base system).

I still found useful as raid howto:
http://www200.pair.com/mecham/raid/raid1-page3.htm (and page2)

However, what about the statement
"In A RAID system it is a good idea to avoid kernel version upgrades (security 
upgrades should be performed of course)" in that mentioned www (concerned 
with Sarge)? Is it a valid suggestion today for etch?

regards
francesco pietra

On Monday 11 September 2006 23:05, Roberto Pariset wrote:
> Roberto Pariset ha scritto:
> > Hello,
> > an updated version of the debian amd64 howto is avaiable in my local
> > alioth space at [1]; hopefully someone will benefit from this.
> >
> > Special thanks and gratitude to Ana for her kindness, ideas and support
> > :)
> >
> > All the best,
> > Roberto
> >
> >
> > PS: If you want to reply, please don't forget to add me in CC because I
> > am not subscribed to this list.
> >
> >
> > [1] http://haydn.debian.org/~intero-guest/
>
> I finally granted permission to publish changes. An up-to-date version of
> the HOWTO will therefore be in the usual place [2], while the alternative
> version [1] will not be used any longer.
> Once again thanks to those who helped with comments, suggestions, ideas and
> such. Special thanks to Mr Leigh, for reviewing the schroot section, and
> Miss Guerrero, for supporting all along.
>
> All the best,
> Roberto
>
>
> [2]
> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html


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Re: updated howto

2006-09-11 Thread Roberto Pariset

Roberto Pariset ha scritto:

Hello,
an updated version of the debian amd64 howto is avaiable in my local 
alioth space at [1]; hopefully someone will benefit from this.


Special thanks and gratitude to Ana for her kindness, ideas and support :)

All the best,
Roberto


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[1] http://haydn.debian.org/~intero-guest/






I finally granted permission to publish changes. An up-to-date version of 
the HOWTO will therefore be in the usual place [2], while the alternative 
version [1] will not be used any longer.
Once again thanks to those who helped with comments, suggestions, ideas and 
such. Special thanks to Mr Leigh, for reviewing the schroot section, and 
Miss Guerrero, for supporting all along.


All the best,
Roberto


[2] http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html


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Re: updated howto

2006-05-30 Thread Roberto Pariset

Francesco Pietra wrote:
I forgot to mention that the Tyan bears also a scsi card for an external HD, 
CD, scanner (a set to be exchanged with the 32bit PC). I imagine that this 
scsi card has to be configured into the chroot as described below. Correct?


I have no idea about this hardware question, I believe you should google a 
bit for the answer. However, I suppose it's a kernel thing, and so it 
should not require chroots or similar.



Hi Roberto:
Thanks again. I regret now asking what has already been answered on this list 
but I can't trace where.


Finally I got all parts, so that I assembled the workstation with two amd64 
opterons on TyanK8WE S2895 and a couple of HD (for raid1).


Basically it is an OS installation for chemical calculations, and therefore 
pure amd64 debian to gain in floating point. However, it may also be a 
resource should my PC (i386 debian testing/unstable) stop running. Therefore, 
I also plan to have a chroot installation of 32bit programs. I do not 
remember if KDE is 64bit or has to be out into this chroot.



You can have KDE in a pure 64 bit environment.


That said, should I point directly to 
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

or
http://www.debian.org/debian-installer/
and, once installed Sarge, do upgrading to testing? 

If you patient enough, which files should I download to build an iso and than 
make a bootable installer CD? I have a fst connection to internet to complete 
a net installation. These problems arise with people, like me, that come to 
installations seldom, forgetting steps that more or less they were already 
passed through.


Thanks a lot
Francesco Pietra


That's the iso you need to install thing via internet.
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta2/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso

If you select expert mode, you should have the possibility to choose 
between sid and etch I think.


Good luck,
Roberto


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Re: updated howto

2006-05-19 Thread Francesco Pietra
I forgot to mention that the Tyan bears also a scsi card for an external HD, 
CD, scanner (a set to be exchanged with the 32bit PC). I imagine that this 
scsi card has to be configured into the chroot as described below. Correct?

Hi Roberto:
Thanks again. I regret now asking what has already been answered on this list 
but I can't trace where.

Finally I got all parts, so that I assembled the workstation with two amd64 
opterons on TyanK8WE S2895 and a couple of HD (for raid1).

Basically it is an OS installation for chemical calculations, and therefore 
pure amd64 debian to gain in floating point. However, it may also be a 
resource should my PC (i386 debian testing/unstable) stop running. Therefore, 
I also plan to have a chroot installation of 32bit programs. I do not 
remember if KDE is 64bit or has to be out into this chroot.

That said, should I point directly to 
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
or
http://www.debian.org/debian-installer/
and, once installed Sarge, do upgrading to testing? 

If you patient enough, which files should I download to build an iso and than 
make a bootable installer CD? I have a fst connection to internet to complete 
a net installation. These problems arise with people, like me, that come to 
installations seldom, forgetting steps that more or less they were already 
passed through.

Thanks a lot
Francesco Pietra


On Friday 12 May 2006 10:46, Roberto Pariset wrote:
> Francesco Pietra wrote:
> > Having to install debian amd64 on opeton/tyan, may i ask whether this is
> > the latest complete guideline, or should it anyway be in part updated?
> > thank you
> > francesco pietra
>
> Yes, go for it. Some things still need to be updated, but I believe it's
> not misleading. Good luck with your new installation and check the IRC
> channel if real time support is needed.
> Roberto


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Re: updated howto

2006-05-19 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi Roberto:
Thanks again. I regret now asking what has already been answered on this list 
but I can't trace where.

Finally I got all parts, so that I assembled the workstation with two amd64 
opterons on TyanK8WE S2895 and a couple of HD (for raid1).

Basically it is an OS installation for chemical calculations, and therefore 
pure amd64 debian to gain in floating point. However, it may also be a 
resource should my PC (i386 debian testing/unstable) stop running. Therefore, 
I also plan to have a chroot installation of 32bit programs. I do not 
remember if KDE is 64bit or has to be out into this chroot.

That said, should I point directly to 
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
or
http://www.debian.org/debian-installer/
and, once installed Sarge, do upgrading to testing? 

If you patient enough, which files should I download to build an iso and than 
make a bootable installer CD? I have a fst connection to internet to complete 
a net installation. These problems arise with people, like me, that come to 
installations seldom, forgetting steps that more or less they were already 
passed through.

Thanks a lot
Francesco Pietra


On Friday 12 May 2006 10:46, Roberto Pariset wrote:
> Francesco Pietra wrote:
> > Having to install debian amd64 on opeton/tyan, may i ask whether this is
> > the latest complete guideline, or should it anyway be in part updated?
> > thank you
> > francesco pietra
>
> Yes, go for it. Some things still need to be updated, but I believe it's
> not misleading. Good luck with your new installation and check the IRC
> channel if real time support is needed.
> Roberto


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Re: updated howto

2006-05-12 Thread Roberto Pariset

Francesco Pietra wrote:
Having to install debian amd64 on opeton/tyan, may i ask whether this is the 
latest complete guideline, or should it anyway be in part updated?

thank you
francesco pietra


Yes, go for it. Some things still need to be updated, but I believe it's 
not misleading. Good luck with your new installation and check the IRC 
channel if real time support is needed.

Roberto


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Re: updated howto

2006-05-12 Thread Francesco Pietra
Having to install debian amd64 on opeton/tyan, may i ask whether this is the 
latest complete guideline, or should it anyway be in part updated?
thank you
francesco pietra

On Monday 20 March 2006 20:57, Roberto Pariset wrote:
> Hello,
> an updated version of the debian amd64 howto is avaiable in my local alioth
> space at [1]; hopefully someone will benefit from this.
>
> Special thanks and gratitude to Ana for her kindness, ideas and support :)
>
> All the best,
> Roberto
>
>
> PS: If you want to reply, please don't forget to add me in CC because I am
> not subscribed to this list.
>
>
> [1] http://haydn.debian.org/~intero-guest/


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Re: updated howto

2006-03-20 Thread Alexander Sieck
Hello Stephen,

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 06:42:32PM -0400, Stephen Cormier wrote:
> 
> Try these.
> 
> deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable nvidia-graphics-drivers
> deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable nvidia-xconfig
> deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable nvidia-settings
> deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable nvidia-kernel-common
> 
> Stephen
> 

Similar result:

deb64a:/home/sieck# aptitude update
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading extended state information  
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
Building tag database... Done
Hit ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing Release.gpg
Get:1 http://people.debian.org unstable Release.gpg [189B]
Hit ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing Release
Hit ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
Get:2 http://people.debian.org unstable Release [17.2kB]
Hit ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Sources
Hit ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Sources
Hit ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Sources
Ign http://people.debian.org unstable Release
Get:3 http://people.debian.org unstable/nvidia-graphics-drivers Packages
[3028B]
Get:4 http://people.debian.org unstable/nvidia-xconfig Packages [420B]
Get:5 http://people.debian.org unstable/nvidia-settings Packages [702B]
Get:6 http://people.debian.org unstable/nvidia-kernel-common Packages
[1120B]
Fetched 22.6kB in 2s (9606B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org
unstable/nvidia-graphics-drivers Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7erdonald_nvidia_dists_unstable_nvidia-graphics-drivers_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org
unstable/nvidia-xconfig Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7erdonald_nvidia_dists_unstable_nvidia-xconfig_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org
unstable/nvidia-settings Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7erdonald_nvidia_dists_unstable_nvidia-settings_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org
unstable/nvidia-kernel-common Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7erdonald_nvidia_dists_unstable_nvidia-kernel-common_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org
unstable/nvidia-graphics-drivers Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7erdonald_nvidia_dists_unstable_nvidia-graphics-drivers_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org
unstable/nvidia-xconfig Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7erdonald_nvidia_dists_unstable_nvidia-xconfig_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org
unstable/nvidia-settings Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7erdonald_nvidia_dists_unstable_nvidia-settings_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org
unstable/nvidia-kernel-common Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7erdonald_nvidia_dists_unstable_nvidia-kernel-common_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to update the package lists to correct these missing
files
W: GPG error: http://people.debian.org unstable Release: The following
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:
NO_PUBKEY 212253A4F641D1A6
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

Alexander



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Re: updated howto

2006-03-20 Thread Nelson Menezes

Nelson Menezes wrote:

Here's my version of the "do_dchroot" script (it seems to not work as 
well as the current one):


Doh... now, this is a bit simpler and it actually works:


#!/bin/sh

exec schroot -p -c ia32 -q "`basename $0`" "$@"


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Re: updated howto

2006-03-20 Thread Alexander Sieck
Hello Roberto,

thanks for the reply.

The problem is already aptitude update (or apt-get update).
(Not aptitude upgrade)

I have downloaded the debs directly from rdonald's page and
installed them with dpkg.

However, either due to some misconfiguration on
http://people.debian.org/~rdonald or on my system
the sources.list lines mentioned in the HOWTO and
on http://people.debian.org/~rdonald do not work.

Alexander


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Re: updated howto

2006-03-20 Thread Stephen Cormier
On Monday 20 March 2006 17:28, Alexander Sieck wrote:
> Hello Roberto,
>
> thank you for the updated HOWTO.
>
> For some reason the /etc/apt/sources.list lines for downloading the
> debianized nvidia drivers, given in the FAQ section "Is my Nvidia card
> supported?", does not work for me.

>
> deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/amd64/
> deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/all/

>
> Does anybody else experience similar problems?
>
> Alexander

Try these.

deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable nvidia-graphics-drivers
deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable nvidia-xconfig
deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable nvidia-settings
deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable nvidia-kernel-common

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Re: updated howto

2006-03-20 Thread Alexander Sieck
Hello Roberto,

thank you for the updated HOWTO.

For some reason the /etc/apt/sources.list lines for downloading the
debianized nvidia drivers, given in the FAQ section "Is my Nvidia card
supported?", does not work for me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list

deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ testing main non-free
contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ testing main
non-free contrib

deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/amd64/ 
deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/all/

deb64a:/home/sieck# aptitude update
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading extended state information  
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
Building tag database... Done
Ign http://people.debian.org unstable/amd64/ Release.gpg  
Ign http://people.debian.org unstable/all/ Release.gpg   
Ign http://people.debian.org unstable/amd64/ Release
Ign http://people.debian.org unstable/all/ Release
Get:1 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://people.debian.org unstable/amd64/ Packages  
Ign http://people.debian.org unstable/all/ Packages
Get:2 http://people.debian.org unstable/amd64/ Packages [2983B]
Get:3 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing Release [5902B]
Get:4 http://people.debian.org unstable/all/ Packages [1905B]   
Get:5 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages [2782kB]
Hit ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Packages   
 
Get:6 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Packages [36.5kB] 
 
Get:7 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Sources [1079kB] 
 
Hit ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Sources
 
Get:8 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Sources [18.3kB]  
 
Fetched 3927kB in 25s (157kB/s) 
 
Reading package lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org
unstable/amd64/ Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7erdonald_nvidia_unstable_amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org
unstable/all/ Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7erdonald_nvidia_unstable_all_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org
unstable/amd64/ Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7erdonald_nvidia_unstable_amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org
unstable/all/ Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7erdonald_nvidia_unstable_all_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to update the package lists to correct these missing
files
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

Does anybody else experience similar problems?

Alexander


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Re: updated howto

2006-03-20 Thread Nelson Menezes

Roberto Pariset wrote:

Hello,
an updated version of the debian amd64 howto is avaiable in my local 
alioth space at [1]; hopefully someone will benefit from this.


Special thanks and gratitude to Ana for her kindness, ideas and support :)

All the best,
Roberto


PS: If you want to reply, please don't forget to add me in CC because I 
am not subscribed to this list.



[1] http://haydn.debian.org/~intero-guest/


I've greatly benefited from this howto; it's good to see it keeps being 
maintained. Shouldn't the section about the 32-bit chroot mention 
schroot also, though? (chroot seems to be deprecated on unstable).


Here's my version of the "do_dchroot" script (it seems to not work as 
well as the current one):


#!/bin/sh
ARGS=""
for i in "$@" ; do
ARGS="$ARGS '$i'"
done

exec schroot -p -c ia32 -q "`basename $0`" "$ARGS"


The above assumes a [ia32] entry in /etc/schroot/schroot.conf like so:

[ia32]
description=Debian sid (ia32)
location=/chroot/ia32
priority=3
groups=,root
root-groups=root
aliases=default


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