Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 05:40:01PM -0500, Allan Wind wrote: > On 2006-03-09T17:31:13-0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > Hmm, wasn't it tyan that recently had some annoucement about a certain > > brand (I think it was antec) power supplies being unreliable for running > > some of their boards? > > Yes, the two companies rebuffet the rumor: > http://www.techspot.com/news/19677-antec-tyan-respond-to-psu-incompatibility-claims.html Well that is good to know. Why is it bad news spread like wildfire and the good news gets largely ignored. :) Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:33:21 -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote > On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 09:42:18PM +0100, Luca Rozza wrote: > > it's the second asus motherboard, with the same problem, i nomore trust > > of asus :# > > Hmm, I have used nothing but Asus since 1992, including an A8V, and > so far, I have never had a failure. Makes me actually suspect the power > supply or something else as the cause of damage. I agree, I'm in the same boat with Asus, Althought I've been trying some Gigabyte boards recently. So far so good. Although, I find that if you're running servers, use boards dedicated to server operation. They're more expensive, but you get onboard video with no sound, dual lan, and all that jazz. Its worth it. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
On Thursday 09 March 2006 13:40, Allan Wind wrote: > On 2006-03-09T17:31:13-0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > Hmm, wasn't it tyan that recently had some annoucement about a > > certain brand (I think it was antec) power supplies being unreliable > > for running some of their boards? > > Yes, the two companies rebuffet the rumor: > http://www.techspot.com/news/19677-antec-tyan-respond-to-psu-incompatib >ility-claims.html > > > /Allan There are issues with Abit mb and Antec True Power Ps. I used to believe in Antec PS, Antec no longer gets a free pass. -- Greg Madden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
Hmm, wasn't it tyan that recently had some annoucement about a certain brand (I think it was antec) power supplies being unreliable for running some of their boards? Just because it _appears_ to work with another system, doesn't mean it is working within required specifications. Some systems are pickier than others. Some chipsets don't like some kinds of ram. Some AMD revisions don't like some types of ram. Modern PCs are pretty darn complex and run very high frequencies and very tight timings. It is not unsual for some combinations to not work. RAM not working in one system, doesn't mean the ram is bad or that the system is bad. It just might only mean that just that combination is a bad one. Len Sorensen This happen cos most manufacters doesn't respect the standards. I don't care why the combination doesn't work, i don't want a motherboard or a power supply, that sometimes doesn't work, like i don't want a motherboard that work only with windows! if them sometimes doesn't work, them just don't work!! anyway, ram was certified by asus like tested and fully compatible. would u buy a car that work only with a specific brand of gasoline!?? me no. ~Luca. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
On 2006-03-09T17:31:13-0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > Hmm, wasn't it tyan that recently had some annoucement about a certain > brand (I think it was antec) power supplies being unreliable for running > some of their boards? Yes, the two companies rebuffet the rumor: http://www.techspot.com/news/19677-antec-tyan-respond-to-psu-incompatibility-claims.html /Allan signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 10:56:09PM +0100, Luca Rozza wrote: > i have tested all components on others pc, and i have found that the > problem (memory failure (with memtest)) was made by the motherboard. > googleing i have found many others user with the same problem with > latest asus motherboard!! expecially with a8v revision 2 :( Hmm, wasn't it tyan that recently had some annoucement about a certain brand (I think it was antec) power supplies being unreliable for running some of their boards? Just because it _appears_ to work with another system, doesn't mean it is working within required specifications. Some systems are pickier than others. Some chipsets don't like some kinds of ram. Some AMD revisions don't like some types of ram. Modern PCs are pretty darn complex and run very high frequencies and very tight timings. It is not unsual for some combinations to not work. RAM not working in one system, doesn't mean the ram is bad or that the system is bad. It just might only mean that just that combination is a bad one. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
On 2006-03-09T21:42:18+0100, Luca Rozza wrote: > it's the second asus motherboard, with the same problem, i nomore trust > of asus :# Same power supply? ;-) /Allan signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
Hmm, I have used nothing but Asus since 1992, including an A8V, and so far, I have never had a failure. Makes me actually suspect the power supply or something else as the cause of damage. Len Sorensen i have tested all components on others pc, and i have found that the problem (memory failure (with memtest)) was made by the motherboard. googleing i have found many others user with the same problem with latest asus motherboard!! expecially with a8v revision 2 :( ~Luca. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 09:42:18PM +0100, Luca Rozza wrote: > it's the second asus motherboard, with the same problem, i nomore trust > of asus :# Hmm, I have used nothing but Asus since 1992, including an A8V, and so far, I have never had a failure. Makes me actually suspect the power supply or something else as the cause of damage. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
Depends on how reliable the server should be. I would always prefer an AMD chipset over nVidia when it comes to reliability. Even if you loose a bit of performance. For socket 939 this will be a problem of course (any AMD 8000 boards available?). i was unable to found one Tyan usually is a decent choice - we have several dual-S940 AMD8000 based 1U-barebones running under high load without problems. Why don't you just buy another A8V? Ok, once failed, nerver again perheaps ;) it's the second asus motherboard, with the same problem, i nomore trust of asus :# The Tyan NF4 board should work though sometimes there are problems with spanking new ethernet controllers (new revs), so I don't know for sure. You might need a kernel from unstable or backports.org. i'll use an external ethernet card ;) Make sure there's enough air flowing over the passive heatsink on the chipset. SLI is not needed for a server of course ... i think i'll buy a S2865ANRF helped a bit? yes, thanks here is a review http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=169&num=1 Sönke ~Luca. Am Mittwoch, 8. März 2006 21:46 schrieb Luca Rozza: Hello, i need to replace a broken motherboard (asus a8v) on a debian server. Please can anyone help me choose a debian compatible motherboard? i need socket 940 is this compatible? i cant find nothing on google. http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tomcatk8esli.html thanks! ~Luca. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 16:56 -0600, Don Montgomery wrote: > Has the K8T Master2-FAR changed since 2003? Mine has no > fan except on the cpus. Speaking of, I've been looking into replacing my K8T Master2-FAR system with a laptop since I've migrated all my server functionality off-site. . MSI K8T Master2-FAR . Dual Opteron 240's . Enermax EG365AX-VE(W) FCA (PSU) . 4 x 512MB Buffalo Tech PC2700 (M/N: DD333L-R512/MC) . boring case PC case . NEC dual layer writer (4x) . 40gb udma hard drive If you're interested, drop me an email OFF-LIST with a *serious* offer. If you want buyer protection, I can also post it as Buy it Now on ebay -- you'd just need to be ready to click that item link. :) Cheers and be sure to reply to me off-list, -s signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 09:46:49PM +0100, Luca Rozza wrote: > Hello, > i need to replace a broken motherboard (asus a8v) on a debian server. > Please can anyone help me choose a debian compatible motherboard? > i need socket 940 > is this compatible? i cant find nothing on google. > http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tomcatk8esli.html > thanks! But the A8V was socket 939? Are you replacing CPU and RAM and everything else too? The K8ESLI is socket 939 just like the A8V. As far as I can tell from reading people's experiences, the nforce2200/2050 based boards seem to work. Not sure what other socket 940 boards are really around. Hopefully someone that has one can help with details. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
Depends on how reliable the server should be. I would always prefer an AMD chipset over nVidia when it comes to reliability. Even if you loose a bit of performance. For socket 939 this will be a problem of course (any AMD 8000 boards available?). Tyan usually is a decent choice - we have several dual-S940 AMD8000 based 1U-barebones running under high load without problems. Why don't you just buy another A8V? Ok, once failed, nerver again perheaps ;) The Tyan NF4 board should work though sometimes there are problems with spanking new ethernet controllers (new revs), so I don't know for sure. You might need a kernel from unstable or backports.org. Make sure there's enough air flowing over the passive heatsink on the chipset. SLI is not needed for a server of course ... helped a bit? Sönke Am Mittwoch, 8. März 2006 21:46 schrieb Luca Rozza: > Hello, > i need to replace a broken motherboard (asus a8v) on a debian server. > Please can anyone help me choose a debian compatible motherboard? > i need socket 940 > is this compatible? i cant find nothing on google. > http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tomcatk8esli.html > thanks! > > ~Luca.
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
MSI has a K8T Master2-FAR & K8T Master2-FAR7 I have a 939 board, it works if you like Nvidia. Luca Rozza wrote: Hello, i need to replace a broken motherboard (asus a8v) on a debian server. Please can anyone help me choose a debian compatible motherboard? i need socket 940 is this compatible? i cant find nothing on google. http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tomcatk8esli.html thanks! ~Luca. -- J. Paul Bissonnette http://canadian-dream.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
Has the K8T Master2-FAR changed since 2003? Mine has no fan except on the cpus. Don On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Luca Rozza wrote: > Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:01:54 +0100 > From: Luca Rozza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: which motherboard for a debian server? > Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 16:20:22 -0600 (CST) > Resent-From: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org > > K8T Master2-FAR is interesting, but i don't like a chipset with a fan > for a server. > ops, i told you the wrong socket, i need a motherboard with a 939 socket > thanks paul > > > J. Paul Bissonnette ha scritto: > > MSI has a K8T Master2-FAR & K8T Master2-FAR7 > > I have a 939 board, it works if you like Nvidia. > > > > Luca Rozza wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> i need to replace a broken motherboard (asus a8v) on a debian server. > >> Please can anyone help me choose a debian compatible motherboard? > >> i need socket 940 > >> is this compatible? i cant find nothing on google. > >> http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tomcatk8esli.html > >> thanks! > >> > >> ~Luca. > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which motherboard for a debian server?
K8T Master2-FAR is interesting, but i don't like a chipset with a fan for a server. ops, i told you the wrong socket, i need a motherboard with a 939 socket thanks paul J. Paul Bissonnette ha scritto: MSI has a K8T Master2-FAR & K8T Master2-FAR7 I have a 939 board, it works if you like Nvidia. Luca Rozza wrote: Hello, i need to replace a broken motherboard (asus a8v) on a debian server. Please can anyone help me choose a debian compatible motherboard? i need socket 940 is this compatible? i cant find nothing on google. http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tomcatk8esli.html thanks! ~Luca. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
