Re: Stable vs Etch
Am Freitag 03 Februar 2006 19:36 schrieb Austin Denyer: > On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 19:08:09 +0100 > > Gian Domeni Calgeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Stable is Sarge and the most stable one; Testing is Sid and a bit > > less stable; Unstable is Etch and even less stable. > > You are correct in that Stable is currently Sarge. > > However, Testing is currently Etch, not Sid. > > Unstable is Sid, not Etch. > > Unstable will always be Sid. Ah, sorry. I mixed them up. > > For those who don't know, the names are from characters in the movie > "Toy Story", and Sid was the boy who broke toys #;-D > > Regards, > Ozz. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stable vs Etch
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 19:08:09 +0100 Gian Domeni Calgeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Stable is Sarge and the most stable one; Testing is Sid and a bit > less stable; Unstable is Etch and even less stable. You are correct in that Stable is currently Sarge. However, Testing is currently Etch, not Sid. Unstable is Sid, not Etch. Unstable will always be Sid. For those who don't know, the names are from characters in the movie "Toy Story", and Sid was the boy who broke toys #;-D Regards, Ozz. pgpAsm8mHs1qN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Stable vs Etch
[I accidentally posted this to russ directly, posting to list now] On 2/3/06, Russ Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am currently running a 64-bit system, using Stable in my apt sources.list. > I find that some packages are unavailable to me (as expected). I understand > that amd64 is not an official part of the archives yet, but all the > ramifications > are unclear to me. Not all packages are available in testing, and unstable either. If you want to run a package not in the amd64 archive (such as openoffice, flash and so on), you'll have to install a 32-bit chroot. See this howto: http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html > Is Etch the current unstable source tree for amd64, > or is > it testing, and is unstable more unstable than testing, or vice-versa? Dist name association is (http://www.debian.org/releases/) Stable: Sarge Testing: Etch Unstable: Sid It doesn't matter which architecture you run, the dist name association is the same. You can refer to the distribution either as "etch", either as "testing" (for example). So you can put "testing" in your apt sources, and even when another release appears, you are going to use the new "testing" distribution. If you say etch, then you are going to use the etch distribution, even when it becomes stable, oldstable and so on. If you say unstable, or sid you are going to use that, as "sid" is always the name of the unstable distro. I hope I explained this clear enough. > I want to be able to play and write dvds, run Azureus, etc, but I don't want > to take any more risks than necessary of my system crashing due to > experimental packages. I'm will to take some risk, but I'd like to know the > relative levels with the various packages. I am using the unstable distribution on amd64, and didn't have crashes. I was using the unstable distribution on i386 too. I didn't notice 'unstable on amd64' being "more unstable" than 'unstable on i386'. Of course since you are currently using stable I recomend staying with it. Upgrade to testing though, if you have hardware that is not supported by stable. > I guess what I'm really > asking is > what is the correspondence between degress of stability with stable, > unstable, testing, experimental, and what dist names are associated with > these levels - Sid, Sarge, Etch, etc? See my answer above > > What does debian-marrilat offer that the other mirrors don't? I don't know, perhaps somebody else can shed some light on this. Edwin
Re: Stable vs Etch
Am Freitag 03 Februar 2006 18:51 schrieb Russ Cook: > I am currently running a 64-bit system, using Stable in my apt > sources.list. I find that some packages are unavailable to me (as > expected). I understand that amd64 is not an official part of the archives > yet, but all the ramifications > are unclear to me. Is Etch the current unstable source tree for amd64, > or is > it testing, and is unstable more unstable than testing, or vice-versa? > > I want to be able to play and write dvds, run Azureus, etc, but I don't > want to take any more risks than necessary of my system crashing due to > experimental packages. I'm will to take some risk, but I'd like to know > the relative levels with the various packages. I guess what I'm really > asking is > what is the correspondence between degress of stability with stable, > unstable, testing, experimental, and what dist names are associated with > these levels - Sid, Sarge, Etch, etc? Stable is Sarge and the most stable one; Testing is Sid and a bit less stable; Unstable is Etch and even less stable. > > What does debian-marrilat offer that the other mirrors don't? If you want to play DVDs, MP3s and so on, you'll need debian-marillat in addition to one of the "normal" debian mirrors. It doesn't replace them. > > Thanks much, >Russ To play DVDs, Sarge is enough if you add debian-marrillat to your /etc/apt/source.list. To run Azureus, however, you'll need a Java. I recommend to use Java-Package to install it, so you are able to easily remove it if you don't need it any more. It makes a Debian package from the Java installer you can download at www.java.com. Gian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stable vs Etch
I am currently running a 64-bit system, using Stable in my apt sources.list. I find that some packages are unavailable to me (as expected). I understand that amd64 is not an official part of the archives yet, but all the ramifications are unclear to me. Is Etch the current unstable source tree for amd64, or is it testing, and is unstable more unstable than testing, or vice-versa? I want to be able to play and write dvds, run Azureus, etc, but I don't want to take any more risks than necessary of my system crashing due to experimental packages. I'm will to take some risk, but I'd like to know the relative levels with the various packages. I guess what I'm really asking is what is the correspondence between degress of stability with stable, unstable, testing, experimental, and what dist names are associated with these levels - Sid, Sarge, Etch, etc? What does debian-marrilat offer that the other mirrors don't? Thanks much, Russ #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main contrib non-free deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
