Re: Tyan S2877 no network? like to end up with something close to sarge...
Lennart Sorensen wrote: Does not support md raid, nor lvm. The box I am typing this one would like to disagree with you about md. I haven't tested root-on-lvm, but certainly other partitions on lvm is fine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tyan S2877 no network? like to end up with something close to sarge...
On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 08:56:28PM +0100, Adam James wrote: > The following configurations are supported: SATA, SCSI, IDE, USB > storage, DASD, LVM2, mdadm, cryptsetup, cryptsetup-luks, USB > keyboards, NFS root, EVMS. > > Not yet supported: swsusp, firewire, loopback, loopaes, dmraid. > --- > > Works great for me with root on LVM2 (on an i386 box, admittedly). Perhaps I will try it again then. This was 3 or 4 months ago I last tried it as far as I recall. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tyan S2877 no network? like to end up with something close to sarge...
On Fri, 5 May 2006 08:48:43 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) wrote: > On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 11:19:56PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > yaird is far easier to backport, and pulls in barely any > > dependencies. > > It also (last I tried it) does not support: > passing root= arguments, it hard codes the root location. This makes > fixing things very difficult. > Does not support md raid, nor lvm. > > In all it is almost useless in that state. I tried that first since > yes it was much easier to backport, but it simply was unusuable for > anything but the most primitive of systems. From man yaird: --- The following configurations are supported: SATA, SCSI, IDE, USB storage, DASD, LVM2, mdadm, cryptsetup, cryptsetup-luks, USB keyboards, NFS root, EVMS. Not yet supported: swsusp, firewire, loopback, loopaes, dmraid. --- Works great for me with root on LVM2 (on an i386 box, admittedly). --Adam
Re: Tyan S2877 no network? like to end up with something close to sarge...
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 11:19:56PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > yaird is far easier to backport, and pulls in barely any dependencies. It also (last I tried it) does not support: passing root= arguments, it hard codes the root location. This makes fixing things very difficult. Does not support md raid, nor lvm. In all it is almost useless in that state. I tried that first since yes it was much easier to backport, but it simply was unusuable for anything but the most primitive of systems. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tyan S2877 no network? like to end up with something close to sarge...
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 09:12:12AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > If you use backports.org as an addition, then you have the tools needed > to use a newer kernel. I wouldn't try a newer kernel either unless I at > least had backports of the new initramfs-tools and dependancies. yaird is far easier to backport, and pulls in barely any dependencies. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tyan S2877 no network? like to end up with something close to sarge...
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 02:38:05PM -0500, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > Given the problems you're having with RAID, I'd also do a minimal > install to a non-raid root device (which you can mirror later). Don't > bother setting up big RAID5 and LVM stuff to get started...jump through > those hoops once you've verified the kernel is talking to your hardware > correctly. Well running root on raid1 is not an issue with sarge. Running root (or at least the /boot directory) on anything more advanced than plain raid1 is just asking for trouble. > WARNING: If you're trying to use sarge, you'll need to stick with a > 2.6.13 or earlier kernel, or go through a big mess to manually create a > working initrd image. The kernel/initial ramdisk tools/boot loader > configuration are kind of in flux at the moment, as debian is switching > away from mkinitrd for newer kernels. If you use backports.org as an addition, then you have the tools needed to use a newer kernel. I wouldn't try a newer kernel either unless I at least had backports of the new initramfs-tools and dependancies. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tyan S2877 no network? like to end up with something close to sarge...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karl Schmidt wrote: > OK - I got things somewhat installed - I used the latest testing netinstall > image > I had to hit a go-back to get to a screen that gave a choice of stable, > testing (this screen is important, yet missing from the straight install?) Try adding 'expert' to the boot command line. I'm not sure if any installers but the credit-card sized (30MB or so) CD Roms support this, however. > but it wouldn't reboot my md software raid1 install - so I started up in > rescue > mode and did: > mount /dev/md0 /target > chroot /target > > and had things somewhat working - did some apt-get installs that would run > but > then - I could not shut down. > > I tried reboot and shutdown now > > I got an error I didn't understand and stupidly did a reset that wiped out > the > /dev/md0 some how and couldn't mount /dev/md0 anymore?? > > I wonder if I should have done a telint or something else to shutdown? Unknown. > I wonder if I should just install without raid and make the raid by hand? I don't know...what exactly are you trying to do? I'm assuming you want to install sarge, and the kernel provided with the sarge installer doesn't properly talk to all of your hardware. In my experience, the easiest way to deal with this is by using a more current installer image (ie: testing or unstable) but do a net install and point it at a sarge repository (ie: in /etc/apt/sources, also configurable from the installer menu). Given the problems you're having with RAID, I'd also do a minimal install to a non-raid root device (which you can mirror later). Don't bother setting up big RAID5 and LVM stuff to get started...jump through those hoops once you've verified the kernel is talking to your hardware correctly. WARNING: If you're trying to use sarge, you'll need to stick with a 2.6.13 or earlier kernel, or go through a big mess to manually create a working initrd image. The kernel/initial ramdisk tools/boot loader configuration are kind of in flux at the moment, as debian is switching away from mkinitrd for newer kernels. - -- Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEWQadLywbqEHdNFwRAtUKAKCzRQ9dopEionvwMaD+wfLNrAjOcACginAR v6QJVFc2fjtVSGSap/Y84vs= =UEdf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tyan S2877 no network? like to end up with something close to sarge...
OK - I got things somewhat installed - I used the latest testing netinstall image I had to hit a go-back to get to a screen that gave a choice of stable, testing (this screen is important, yet missing from the straight install?) but it wouldn't reboot my md software raid1 install - so I started up in rescue mode and did: mount /dev/md0 /target chroot /target and had things somewhat working - did some apt-get installs that would run but then - I could not shut down. I tried reboot and shutdown now I got an error I didn't understand and stupidly did a reset that wiped out the /dev/md0 some how and couldn't mount /dev/md0 anymore?? I wonder if I should have done a telint or something else to shutdown? I wonder if I should just install without raid and make the raid by hand? Karl Schmidt wrote: Trying with current etch debian-testing-amd64-businesscard.iso (kernel 2.6.15-1-AMD64-generic) This board has two on-board GE Nics: Nvidia CK804 and Broadcom Netextreme BMC5705_2 The Broadcom is almost working. From digging in the logs looks like the ethernet port is sending data - but not receiving??? The Broadcom is just a PHY port - not sure exactly what that means?? do they share the same IP address? I saw in the server logs once where the MAC address was incremented by one??? I think buggy software - the first port uses the forcedeth ver 0.48 driver and the second tg3 ver 3.47 I'm going to boot up knoppix and see if it has the same problem - could be a bad MB?? knoppix 3.7 won't talk, but knoppix 4.0 will. Knoppix 4.0 (kernel 2.6.12)is using forcedeth 0.32 and tg3 3.31 OK, Very strange - once I booted with Knoppix it created a lease on the DHCP server and now networking works on the credit card install (can renew the lease, but not create one??). I still have not yet gotten it to do the base install - complains about not having a /proc mount point. Is there a way to install as 386 and convert over to AMD64 - might be easier?? Might be the software raid stuff??? Should I install and create the raid later?? (OT: All of a sudden it seems silly to have install CDs or DVD - now that there ar 4G thumb drives.) Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." --Flannery O'Connor -- !!!>> INCLUDE ALL TEXT IN TECHNICAL SUPPORT EMAIL REPLIES!!! Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Time wounds all heels -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tyan S2877 no network? like to end up with something close to sarge...
Trying with current etch debian-testing-amd64-businesscard.iso (kernel 2.6.15-1-AMD64-generic) This board has two on-board GE Nics: Nvidia CK804 and Broadcom Netextreme BMC5705_2 The Broadcom is almost working. From digging in the logs looks like the ethernet port is sending data - but not receiving??? The Broadcom is just a PHY port - not sure exactly what that means?? do they share the same IP address? I saw in the server logs once where the MAC address was incremented by one??? I think buggy software - the first port uses the forcedeth ver 0.48 driver and the second tg3 ver 3.47 I'm going to boot up knoppix and see if it has the same problem - could be a bad MB?? knoppix 3.7 won't talk, but knoppix 4.0 will. Knoppix 4.0 (kernel 2.6.12)is using forcedeth 0.32 and tg3 3.31 OK, Very strange - once I booted with Knoppix it created a lease on the DHCP server and now networking works on the credit card install (can renew the lease, but not create one??). I still have not yet gotten it to do the base install - complains about not having a /proc mount point. Is there a way to install as 386 and convert over to AMD64 - might be easier?? Might be the software raid stuff??? Should I install and create the raid later?? (OT: All of a sudden it seems silly to have install CDs or DVD - now that there ar 4G thumb drives.) Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." --Flannery O'Connor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]