Re: What is the best java for debian-amd64 ?
On Thursday 18 September 2008 16:55:43 Stephen Olander-Waters wrote: > On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 16:19 -0300, Fabricio Cannini - Yahoo wrote: > > On Thursday 18 September 2008 15:05:17 Stephen Olander-Waters wrote: > > > Allow me to unrecommend Blackdown JRE 1.4.2. Unfortunately, the > > > maintainers of xul-runner have seen fit to conflict with every version > > > of jre 1.4.2. > > > > > > Your choices are to force reinstallation of Blackdown 1.4.2 after every > > > dist-upgrade or install it outside of package management. > > > > > > Those of us stuck with legacy applications on modern OS's are in a bind > > > with this situation. > > > > > > -s > > > > Hi Stephen! > > > > Have you tried to use /etc/apt/preferences' do disallow apt-get/aptitude > > of uninstalling Blackdown's jre ? > > No. I did not think that worked for conflicting packages. I thought it > would make xulrunner uninstall or disable dist-upgrading. > > Is that not true? > -s You caught me on this one. :) I'm not sure about what would happen, but you can try the following in '/etc/apt/preferences' : Package: blackdown-jvm Pin: version 1.4.* Pin-Priority: 1100 IFINR aptitude will, at the very least, ask you what to do. Good luck! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the best java for debian-amd64 ?
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 16:19 -0300, Fabricio Cannini - Yahoo wrote: > On Thursday 18 September 2008 15:05:17 Stephen Olander-Waters wrote: > > Allow me to unrecommend Blackdown JRE 1.4.2. Unfortunately, the > > maintainers of xul-runner have seen fit to conflict with every version > > of jre 1.4.2. > > > > Your choices are to force reinstallation of Blackdown 1.4.2 after every > > dist-upgrade or install it outside of package management. > > > > Those of us stuck with legacy applications on modern OS's are in a bind > > with this situation. > > > > -s > > Hi Stephen! > > Have you tried to use /etc/apt/preferences' do disallow apt-get/aptitude of > uninstalling Blackdown's jre ? No. I did not think that worked for conflicting packages. I thought it would make xulrunner uninstall or disable dist-upgrading. Is that not true? -s -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the best java for debian-amd64 ?
On Thursday 18 September 2008 15:05:17 Stephen Olander-Waters wrote: > Allow me to unrecommend Blackdown JRE 1.4.2. Unfortunately, the > maintainers of xul-runner have seen fit to conflict with every version > of jre 1.4.2. > > Your choices are to force reinstallation of Blackdown 1.4.2 after every > dist-upgrade or install it outside of package management. > > Those of us stuck with legacy applications on modern OS's are in a bind > with this situation. > > -s Hi Stephen! Have you tried to use /etc/apt/preferences' do disallow apt-get/aptitude of uninstalling Blackdown's jre ? > On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 19:27 +0200, Simon Vos wrote: > > The java-6-openjdk is the one I use. It is the completely open version > > of the JDK released by sun under the GPL. In fact it is IcedTea, which > > is a project created to have a complete open JDK. The source release by > > Sun was not complete, since some parts of their source were not their > > intelectual property. For these parts of the source Sun added binaries, > > the IcedTea project re-implemented the non-open parts. > > > > For as far as I have used the java-6-openjdk it seems to me that it is > > complete. I think I read online that IcedTea had passed the TCK (the > > java compatibility test) and it is completely open-source. Also, it is > > the default default java alternative in debian I think.. > > > > With kind regards, > > > > Simon > > > > Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > as there are many java versions installable, what is the best one to > > > use in amd64-systems ? What are the differences ? I saw gcj, gij, gdk, > > > java. Can someone tell me, which should be used ? Ia ma very confused. > > > Update-alternatives is giving me these choices: > > > > > > There are 8 alternatives which provide `java'. > > > > > > SelectionAlternative > > > --- > > > 1/usr/bin/gij-4.1 > > > 2/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-6-sun/jre/bin/java > > > 3/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java > > > 4/usr/bin/gij-4.3 > > > * 5/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java > > > 6/usr/bin/gij-4.2 > > > 7/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java > > > +8/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java > > > > > > Press enter to keep the default[*], or type selection number: > > > > > > I choose 5. What is this "+"-sign meaning ? > > > > > > Questions, questions, questions > > > > > > Thanks for any help ! > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > Hans-J. Ullrich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the best java for debian-amd64 ?
Allow me to unrecommend Blackdown JRE 1.4.2. Unfortunately, the maintainers of xul-runner have seen fit to conflict with every version of jre 1.4.2. Your choices are to force reinstallation of Blackdown 1.4.2 after every dist-upgrade or install it outside of package management. Those of us stuck with legacy applications on modern OS's are in a bind with this situation. -s On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 19:27 +0200, Simon Vos wrote: > The java-6-openjdk is the one I use. It is the completely open version > of the JDK released by sun under the GPL. In fact it is IcedTea, which > is a project created to have a complete open JDK. The source release by > Sun was not complete, since some parts of their source were not their > intelectual property. For these parts of the source Sun added binaries, > the IcedTea project re-implemented the non-open parts. > > For as far as I have used the java-6-openjdk it seems to me that it is > complete. I think I read online that IcedTea had passed the TCK (the > java compatibility test) and it is completely open-source. Also, it is > the default default java alternative in debian I think.. > > With kind regards, > > Simon > > Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > as there are many java versions installable, what is the best one to use in > > amd64-systems ? What are the differences ? I saw gcj, gij, gdk, java. Can > > someone tell me, which should be used ? Ia ma very confused. > > Update-alternatives is giving me these choices: > > > > There are 8 alternatives which provide `java'. > > > > SelectionAlternative > > --- > > 1/usr/bin/gij-4.1 > > 2/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-6-sun/jre/bin/java > > 3/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java > > 4/usr/bin/gij-4.3 > > * 5/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java > > 6/usr/bin/gij-4.2 > > 7/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java > > +8/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java > > > > Press enter to keep the default[*], or type selection number: > > > > I choose 5. What is this "+"-sign meaning ? > > > > Questions, questions, questions > > > > Thanks for any help ! > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > Hans-J. Ullrich > > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the best java for debian-amd64 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The java-6-openjdk is the one I use. It is the completely open version of the JDK released by sun under the GPL. In fact it is IcedTea, which is a project created to have a complete open JDK. The source release by Sun was not complete, since some parts of their source were not their intelectual property. For these parts of the source Sun added binaries, the IcedTea project re-implemented the non-open parts. For as far as I have used the java-6-openjdk it seems to me that it is complete. I think I read online that IcedTea had passed the TCK (the java compatibility test) and it is completely open-source. Also, it is the default default java alternative in debian I think.. With kind regards, Simon Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Hi all, > > as there are many java versions installable, what is the best one to use in > amd64-systems ? What are the differences ? I saw gcj, gij, gdk, java. Can > someone tell me, which should be used ? Ia ma very confused. > Update-alternatives is giving me these choices: > > There are 8 alternatives which provide `java'. > > SelectionAlternative > --- > 1/usr/bin/gij-4.1 > 2/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-6-sun/jre/bin/java > 3/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java > 4/usr/bin/gij-4.3 > * 5/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java > 6/usr/bin/gij-4.2 > 7/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java > +8/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java > > Press enter to keep the default[*], or type selection number: > > I choose 5. What is this "+"-sign meaning ? > > Questions, questions, questions > > Thanks for any help ! > > > Kind regards > > Hans-J. Ullrich > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjSj4cACgkQbAyTrjLX2Rm+GQCcDPHPzE+xN/mEW8DwbA82k8sY 7bIAnA+8LUZ3jT9zfWZBXTypSdDXFNEu =b5AZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the best java for debian-amd64 ?
Tuesday 16 September 2008, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote : > Hi all, > > as there are many java versions installable, what is the best one to > use in amd64-systems ? What are the differences ? I saw gcj, gij, > gdk, java. Can someone tell me, which should be used ? Ia ma very > confused. Update-alternatives is giving me these choices: > > There are 8 alternatives which provide `java'. > > SelectionAlternative > --- > 1/usr/bin/gij-4.1 > 2/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-6-sun/jre/bin/java > 3/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java > 4/usr/bin/gij-4.3 > * 5/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java > 6/usr/bin/gij-4.2 > 7/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java > +8/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java > > Press enter to keep the default[*], or type selection number: > > I choose 5. What is this "+"-sign meaning ? It was your current alternative when you ran update-alternatives > > Questions, questions, questions > > Thanks for any help ! I think the two most important ones are the sun alternative because it is widely used and the openjdk which is the free sun JVM (v6 I think) + the free java libraries. It should replace the comming java 7 (where jvm + libraries is supposed to be free) in all distros I think. Not that I'm not completely sure of what I say. > > > Kind regards > > Hans-J. Ullrich Regards, Thomas Preud'homme -- Why Debian : http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: What is the best java for debian-amd64 ?
Hi Hans On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 11:38 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > as there are many java versions installable, what is the best one to use in > amd64-systems ? What are the differences ? I saw gcj, gij, gdk, java. Can > someone tell me, which should be used ? Ia ma very confused. > Update-alternatives is giving me these choices: I haven't done a comparison between the different versions, and there are a lot of different perspectives as to which is the best. The free verses closed argument for example. For me I was looking to develop and test on a single CPU AMD-64 (lenny), deploy on twin Intel Xeon (etch/4.0) and a demo laptop running Windows XP. The J2EE software stack installed on all three base OSs is: Sun's Java 1.5, JBoss 4.2.2, MySQL 5 and Apache 2. On the debian systems the APT versions where used, on the window pre-built packages from the appropriate website except for JBoss. JBoss was installed on my development system only and then copied to the deployment platforms. I've had no issues of differences between the platforms. I consider that a large part of this was because I was using a JDK from the same source (SUN). Hope this is useful. Steve -- Steve Dobson I'd rather have two girls at 21 each than one girl at 42. -- W. C. Fields signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
What is the best java for debian-amd64 ?
Hi all, as there are many java versions installable, what is the best one to use in amd64-systems ? What are the differences ? I saw gcj, gij, gdk, java. Can someone tell me, which should be used ? Ia ma very confused. Update-alternatives is giving me these choices: There are 8 alternatives which provide `java'. SelectionAlternative --- 1/usr/bin/gij-4.1 2/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-6-sun/jre/bin/java 3/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java 4/usr/bin/gij-4.3 * 5/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java 6/usr/bin/gij-4.2 7/usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java +8/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java Press enter to keep the default[*], or type selection number: I choose 5. What is this "+"-sign meaning ? Questions, questions, questions Thanks for any help ! Kind regards Hans-J. Ullrich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
