blank Xorg on Etch
Greetings earthlings. There doesn't seem to be an X-related list, or i couldn't find it. I had issues booting the Etch netinst for AMD64. I tried Knoppix 5.0.1 - worked like a charm, X and all, except for sound. Tried live Ubuntu 5.04 for Inter x86, complained about X. Tried Ubuntu 5.04 for AMD64, complained about acpi; then about X. LFS 6.2.3 booted fine (has no X). So after booting the Debian installer with noacpi i finally installed Etch through netinst. Until then it would freeze after io scheduler cfq registered and the only suggestion i got from the lists was to burn another disc... Anynway, now i'm complaining about X. The sound i dealt with, added options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base Which is better, ALSA or OSS? The system boots fine, actually it flies. As usual a Debian basic install always adds unnecessary things - why the hell is there a Bittorrent tracker?! Once X starts the screen blanks, beeps once, and the monitor LED keeps blinking. It responds to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (does the same again) and i can switch to console. This is ps -A from the first graphics-related PID: 3018 ?00:00:00 gdm 3024 ?00:00:00 gdm 3029 tty7 00:00:00 Xorg 3030 ?00:00:00 rpc.statd 3031 ?00:00:00 dhclient 3062 ?00:00:00 atd 3069 ?00:00:00 cron 3104 tty1 00:00:00 login 3105 tty8 00:00:00 getty 3114 ?00:00:00 gdmgreeter How come there are two gdm? Eventually i'll switch to xdm and xfce4. The motherboard is an ASUS M2NPV-VM. Details can be found here: http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3l2=101l3=296l4=0model=1138modelmenu=2 Basically: - AMD Athlon 64 3500+ - graphics card is a nVidia GeForce 6150, i think - 2GB of RAM (DDR2 667 DualChannel, 128bit) - phoenix Award BIOS v6.00PG X is running the nv driver. I tried installing the nvidia driver from their site (file NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.19-pkg2.run) but it complains about libc - mine's 6 and i assume it's current. Gcc is ver 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21). Once i've comented out loading of dri and glx modules, i find no errors in X's log. Oddly enough issuing gcc -v file or similar for xorg won't redirect but that's irrelevant for now. I don't really care about 3D - if i can get it then all the better. If i can get X to work without closed drivers, even sweeter. Here are the usual suspects: http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/dmesg.txt http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/nvidia-installer.log http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/Xorg.0.log http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/xorg.conf uname -a gives: Linux deb64 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Thu May 31 23:51:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but found nothing noteworthy. It detected the same resolutions as XP Pro x64 currently does: 800x600, 960x600, 1024x768 at 32bit. The monitor is a Samtron 55E. My other box is and old Pentium 2 i'm LAMPing up with Debian Etch for i386 and X works (almost) fine. I had to comment out dri and glx as well, the window manager won't start up properly but it's working. Here's its xconf: http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/i386-xorg.conf I use the same monitor for both machines, although now i managed to remote an X session to the old box. After running dpkg-reconfigure i got these errors in Xorg.0.log (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device (EE) NV(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or errors above for possible reasons (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Full log: http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/r-Xorg.0.log Resulting xconf: http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/r-xorg.conf ...so i reverted to the old config files and got back where i started. When i had Sarge the only issue i had with X under Debian was changing the /dev for the mouse and everything worked fine (on that old box, still XFree86), but now... Hopefully this is enough information. And, according to Murphy, it's probably a very easy and silly thing to solve. Thanks in advance. -- Fica bem, porta-te mal. Be well, misbehave. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blank Xorg on Etch
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 07:44:09PM +, Nuno Magalh??es wrote: Greetings earthlings. There doesn't seem to be an X-related list, or i couldn't find it. I had issues booting the Etch netinst for AMD64. I tried Knoppix 5.0.1 - worked like a charm, X and all, except for sound. Tried live Ubuntu 5.04 for Inter x86, complained about X. Tried Ubuntu 5.04 for AMD64, complained about acpi; then about X. LFS 6.2.3 booted fine (has no X). So after booting the Debian installer with noacpi i finally installed Etch through netinst. Until then it would freeze after io scheduler cfq registered and the only suggestion i got from the lists was to burn another disc... Anynway, now i'm complaining about X. The sound i dealt with, added options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base Which is better, ALSA or OSS? ALSA The system boots fine, actually it flies. As usual a Debian basic install always adds unnecessary things - why the hell is there a Bittorrent tracker?! Once X starts the screen blanks, beeps once, and the monitor LED keeps blinking. It responds to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (does the same again) and i can switch to console. This is ps -A from the first graphics-related PID: 3018 ?00:00:00 gdm 3024 ?00:00:00 gdm 3029 tty7 00:00:00 Xorg 3030 ?00:00:00 rpc.statd 3031 ?00:00:00 dhclient 3062 ?00:00:00 atd 3069 ?00:00:00 cron 3104 tty1 00:00:00 login 3105 tty8 00:00:00 getty 3114 ?00:00:00 gdmgreeter How come there are two gdm? Eventually i'll switch to xdm and xfce4. The motherboard is an ASUS M2NPV-VM. Details can be found here: http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3l2=101l3=296l4=0model=1138modelmenu=2 Basically: - AMD Athlon 64 3500+ - graphics card is a nVidia GeForce 6150, i think - 2GB of RAM (DDR2 667 DualChannel, 128bit) - phoenix Award BIOS v6.00PG X is running the nv driver. I tried installing the nvidia driver from their site (file NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.19-pkg2.run) but it complains about libc - mine's 6 and i assume it's current. Gcc is ver 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21). Once i've comented out loading of dri and glx modules, i find no errors in X's log. Oddly enough issuing gcc -v file or similar for xorg won't redirect but that's irrelevant for now. I don't really care about 3D - if i can get it then all the better. If i can get X to work without closed drivers, even sweeter. Running 3rd party installers is always a very bad idea. The nvidia installer overwrites files that belong to dpkg, which will overwrite them on a future upgrade with no notice and things will nicely break on you. I have a howto on how to install nvidia drivers the debian way (as well as any other type of kernel module package) at http://www.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/ Here are the usual suspects: http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/dmesg.txt http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/nvidia-installer.log http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/Xorg.0.log http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/xorg.conf uname -a gives: Linux deb64 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Thu May 31 23:51:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but found nothing noteworthy. It detected the same resolutions as XP Pro x64 currently does: 800x600, 960x600, 1024x768 at 32bit. The monitor is a Samtron 55E. My other box is and old Pentium 2 i'm LAMPing up with Debian Etch for i386 and X works (almost) fine. I had to comment out dri and glx as well, the window manager won't start up properly but it's working. Here's its xconf: http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/i386-xorg.conf I use the same monitor for both machines, although now i managed to remote an X session to the old box. After running dpkg-reconfigure i got these errors in Xorg.0.log (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device (EE) NV(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or errors above for possible reasons (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Full log: http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/r-Xorg.0.log Resulting xconf: http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/r-xorg.conf ...so i reverted to the old config files and got back where i started. When i had Sarge the only issue i had with X under Debian was changing the /dev for the mouse and everything worked fine (on that old box, still XFree86), but now... Hopefully this is enough information. And, according to Murphy, it's probably a very easy and silly thing to solve. Thanks in advance. Well I would have expected the nv driver to work fine with the 6150 although I have never actualyl used on of those low end onboard chips. The nvidia driver on the other hand tends to work very well for me on all the nvidia cards I have used, when installed the debian way and not using the nvidia method. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email
Re: blank Xorg on Etch
you always could use vesa driver, this just work and let you work... In etch (non-free) there is an OLD nvidia closed driver that should work for you in etch... good luck On 11/28/07, Nuno Magalhães [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings earthlings. There doesn't seem to be an X-related list, or i couldn't find it. I had issues booting the Etch netinst for AMD64. I tried Knoppix 5.0.1 - worked like a charm, X and all, except for sound. Tried live Ubuntu 5.04 for Inter x86, complained about X. Tried Ubuntu 5.04 for AMD64, complained about acpi; then about X. LFS 6.2.3 booted fine (has no X). So after booting the Debian installer with noacpi i finally installed Etch through netinst. Until then it would freeze after io scheduler cfq registered and the only suggestion i got from the lists was to burn another disc... Anynway, now i'm complaining about X. The sound i dealt with, added options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base Which is better, ALSA or OSS? The system boots fine, actually it flies. As usual a Debian basic install always adds unnecessary things - why the hell is there a Bittorrent tracker?! Once X starts the screen blanks, beeps once, and the monitor LED keeps blinking. It responds to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (does the same again) and i can switch to console. This is ps -A from the first graphics-related PID: 3018 ?00:00:00 gdm 3024 ?00:00:00 gdm 3029 tty7 00:00:00 Xorg 3030 ?00:00:00 rpc.statd 3031 ?00:00:00 dhclient 3062 ?00:00:00 atd 3069 ?00:00:00 cron 3104 tty1 00:00:00 login 3105 tty8 00:00:00 getty 3114 ?00:00:00 gdmgreeter How come there are two gdm? Eventually i'll switch to xdm and xfce4. The motherboard is an ASUS M2NPV-VM. Details can be found here: http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3l2=101l3=296l4=0model=1138modelmenu=2 Basically: - AMD Athlon 64 3500+ - graphics card is a nVidia GeForce 6150, i think - 2GB of RAM (DDR2 667 DualChannel, 128bit) - phoenix Award BIOS v6.00PG X is running the nv driver. I tried installing the nvidia driver from their site (file NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.19-pkg2.run) but it complains about libc - mine's 6 and i assume it's current. Gcc is ver 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21). Once i've comented out loading of dri and glx modules, i find no errors in X's log. Oddly enough issuing gcc -v file or similar for xorg won't redirect but that's irrelevant for now. I don't really care about 3D - if i can get it then all the better. If i can get X to work without closed drivers, even sweeter. Here are the usual suspects: http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/dmesg.txt http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/nvidia-installer.log http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/Xorg.0.log http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/xorg.conf uname -a gives: Linux deb64 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Thu May 31 23:51:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but found nothing noteworthy. It detected the same resolutions as XP Pro x64 currently does: 800x600, 960x600, 1024x768 at 32bit. The monitor is a Samtron 55E. My other box is and old Pentium 2 i'm LAMPing up with Debian Etch for i386 and X works (almost) fine. I had to comment out dri and glx as well, the window manager won't start up properly but it's working. Here's its xconf: http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/i386-xorg.conf I use the same monitor for both machines, although now i managed to remote an X session to the old box. After running dpkg-reconfigure i got these errors in Xorg.0.log (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device (EE) NV(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or errors above for possible reasons (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Full log: http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/r-Xorg.0.log Resulting xconf: http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~i000283/deb64/r-xorg.conf ...so i reverted to the old config files and got back where i started. When i had Sarge the only issue i had with X under Debian was changing the /dev for the mouse and everything worked fine (on that old box, still XFree86), but now... Hopefully this is enough information. And, according to Murphy, it's probably a very easy and silly thing to solve. Thanks in advance. -- Fica bem, porta-te mal. Be well, misbehave. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different selves that are actively involved in a given relationship. Carl Sagan (Contact) Jaime Ochoa Malagón Integrated Technology Tel: (55) 52 54 26 10
Re: blank Xorg on Etch
On 11/28/07, Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 03:24:38PM -0600, Jaime Ochoa Malag?n wrote: you always could use vesa driver, this just work and let you work... Surprisingly many modern video cards don't have VESA support, so often you can't. Good to know, just in case ;-) This card could have a good vesa support because no seems to be a new model... In etch (non-free) there is an OLD nvidia closed driver that should work for you in etch... -- Len Sorensen -- Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different selves that are actively involved in a given relationship. Carl Sagan (Contact) Jaime Ochoa Malagón Integrated Technology Tel: (55) 52 54 26 10
blank Xorg on Etch
I have a howto on how to install nvidia drivers the debian way (as well as any other type of kernel module package) at http://www.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/ The nvidia driver wasn't istalled, as i stated, so there was nothing for --uninstall to remove. Your howto helped, i'm replying from gnome. Well I would have expected the nv driver to work fine with the 6150 although I have never actualyl used on of those low end onboard chips. Gimme high-end money and i'll get a high-end offboard chip. ;-) Actually, it wasn't nv causing the problem. I got the framebuffer error again after switching to the nvidia driver: (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device (EE) NV(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or errors above for possible reasons (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. I ran dpkg-reconfigure again, this time choosing No in the framebuffer question (Use kernel framebuffer device interface?) and choosing the nvidia driver instead of nv, and it worked. I didn't need to comment dri and glx either. So, the issue was the framebuffer. Thanks again. -- Fica bem, porta-te mal. Be well, misbehave. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]